Kentucky Fried Panda: People care because it was an attack on innocence. An auto accident, while tragic, is not typically intentional or targeted.
bdub77: Can we not keep people in our thoughts and prayers? Oh I'm sorry Mr. Douchebag, you're tired of it so we should all be tired of having sympathy for the dead and wounded and their families and everyone else who was affected by this tragedy?This kind of event is a hard but important reminder that you can impact the lives of people. Doesn't mean you have to go directly to Boston and donate blood, just be involved in your community, help someone get an education, be a farking model of personal responsibility, whatever. Just don't spend your entire life finding something to piss and moan about from the comfort of your farking computer terminal because you think it's cool to rag on it, after all people can't have a sense of morality or responsibility, this is the 21st century right?
Snarfangel: It's obvious that the person/group/political party I despise the most caused this terrible tragedy. It's absolutely *not* baseless supposition if I really hate them.I shall now cherry-pick my evidence to support this conclusion, and ignore the naysayers and their "facts."
Witchydiva: SoupJohnB: Witchydiva: Did anyone else find it interesting that this last press conference made mention that the ICE is an "integral" part of the ongoing investigation, or that the FBI will be using their global resources to pursue this "worldwide" investigation? I was surprised that the reporters didn't better jump on that.Heard that, and thought Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) is a logical link with the other federal agencies following this incident. One response to 9/11 was to have agencies not "silo" any intel that might be applicable to common interests.I get the breakdowns on the siloing, I was just curious at what seemed to be an odd singling out of that particular agency, and the emphasis on the "worldwide" and "global" part of the investigation.Ah, so much speculation, so little time.
Dwight_Yeast: Phinn: No, it is more likely that the perp made his own, or cut open a few hundred shotgun shells, then packed it into a rigid container, like a pipe bomb, or similar.Can't you just buy black powder in quantity?
Phinn: No, it is more likely that the perp made his own, or cut open a few hundred shotgun shells,
JayCab: Not that it makes people an expert or anything, but does nobody talking about the explosives used watch Mythbusters? They may or may not embellish some things through editing, but their explosions are pretty much done as-is and they are almost always clear on which sort of explosive they're using. I'm about to head in to work so I don't have time to go through the 120 pages of boom on the Discovery.com/Mythbusters page but surely someone does.
Dwight_Yeast: Can't you just buy black powder in quantity?
Giltric: Snarfangel: It's obvious that the person/group/political party I despise the most caused this terrible tragedy. It's absolutely *not* baseless supposition if I really hate them.I shall now cherry-pick my evidence to support this conclusion, and ignore the naysayers and their "facts."I wonder how many people attempting to blame the "right wing" were trying to debunk the connection between a certain attack in Libya that happened on the same day that some people flew planes into office buildings years earlier....
bdub77: I would think it'd be more traceable. Besides, the shotgun shells contain shot, so it would explain the so-called 'ball bearings'. I would think it makes sense actually, if you wanted to created an explosion that was hard to trace you'd make a pipe bomb using shotgun shells. The shells would probably be entirely untraceable.
dittybopper: Al_Ed: dittybopper: Dynascape: How much flame does black powder actually emit?Or perhaps was an oxidizer used?BP emits a lot of flame. So do the more easily available black powder substitutes, Pyrodex and Triple7.This is true. Military-grade explosive aren't that 'flamey'.Nor are they smokey like BP.Not that I'm a great expert, but I can't think of another "explosive" that would look like that: relatively long lasting orange fireball, dense white smoke. If we have reports of a sulfury, rotten egg or fart smell, that would cinch it.
Infernalist: So, the general consensus is, this is a home-made device, crafted from existing materials.I'm to assume that the black powder came from civilian ammunition?
mmagdalene: jack21221: Here is a story about Carlos Arredondo, the man in the cowboy hat.Warning: This link has a cropped picture of the infamous picture #8. The horrific wounds have been cropped out of the picture, but you still see Carlos holding shut the femoral artery.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2309762/Boston-Marathon-bomb in gs-Carlos-Arredondo-heroic-anti-war-protester-soldier-son-died-Iraq-pi ctured-helping-people.htmlHow cynical is it that my first thought was "Maybe he did it"?
luxup: theknuckler_33: Giltric: luxup: One of the eyewitness reports I heard yesterday said that cops (multiple) were drawing their guns.You can see it in some of the pictures and videos.I'm not sure I'm understanding this... is there supposed to be something wrong about the fact that a police officer drew their service revolver just moments after a bomb exploded just a few feet away?Not at all.Some people were trying to say that the officer in the pic over reacted. Then people came to her defense saying that it was actually great training and I just wanted to point out that she wasn't the only officer that did that like a lot of people seem to think.
Phinn: indarwinsshadow: You're right. To much flame isn't it? Would a terrorist organisation use a explosive like black powder?No, it is more likely that the perp made his own, or cut open a few hundred shotgun shells, then packed it into a rigid container, like a pipe bomb, or similar.
Giltric: Infernalist: So, the general consensus is, this is a home-made device, crafted from existing materials.I'm to assume that the black powder came from civilian ammunition?What would be the difference between civillian ammo and military ammo?
vygramul: A picture of a guy at Tenerife, his clothes mostly torn off.
Infernalist: So, the general consensus is, this is a home-made device, crafted from existing materials.
balki1867: namegoeshere: I guess we should be thankful they're not going with the obvious "Boston Masacre Pt 2."Too late, CNN is already calling this the Boston Massacre. I guess people forget that even though it's been ~250 years, the Boston Massacre was actually a thing.
nekom: indarwinsshadow: Would a terrorist organisation use a explosive like black powder?I would think whoever did this used whatever they could get their hands on. Commercial explosives like ammonium nitrate are strictly controlled these days, but I'm pretty sure you can get a few cans of black powder or something similar without much hassle. Whether it's foreign or domestic, the materials were almost certainly procured locally I would imagine. So yes, they would use it, if they could get it.Any idiot can make a bomb, it's not that difficult.
Phinn: Dwight_Yeast: Can't you just buy black powder in quantity?As I understand, you can, with varying state and local restrictions. I would expect Massachusetts to be highly restrictive, though.
Infernalist: Giltric: Infernalist: So, the general consensus is, this is a home-made device, crafted from existing materials.I'm to assume that the black powder came from civilian ammunition?What would be the difference between civillian ammo and military ammo?I'm sorry, I'm no gun expert. I was working under the impression that military grade ammunition was a different breed of horse than civilian ammunition.
fireclown: My left brain (always the **hole)
A Fark Handle: tragedy and life happens everyday, so why don't we post our thoughts and prayers about those events?
bmongar: Bilderberg funded shape shifting reptilian Papal guard air who were working under the direction of Rupert Murdoch and George Soros to simultaneously drive news consumption and destabilize world currencies.
Vlad_the_Inaner: vygramul: A picture of a guy at Tenerife, his clothes mostly torn off.I read that in this guy's voice[i.imgur.com image 565x541]
muck4doo: Fox now saying the Saudi student is in custody according to police, and the apartment that was raided was his. Supposedly the police removed a bunch of bags from it./Right wing nuts like McVeigh tend to attack government
Infernalist: I'm to assume that the black powder came from civilian ammunition?
bdub77: A Fark Handle: tragedy and life happens everyday, so why don't we post our thoughts and prayers about those events?Umm. We do post our thoughts and prayers about people every day. WTF. Even though you think there's no emotional connection to other people in the world, we all share it. And during events like these which are almost inexplicable for their horrific nature, we come together as a nation to mourn them and to also remind people that there are awesome people in this world who ran INTO the f*cking blast site to help other people live.Do you need a f*cking example? OK. Well, a good friend of mine had a wife who died of brain cancer at the age of 25. Her birthday was today. He made a facebook page about her and today, he celebrated her birthday and we chimed in with happy birthday for her. We all mourn her passing. She was a wonderful person and he loved her deeply.Frankly I feel sorry that you don't feel any emotional connection to others and to the world. That's your choice though, not mine, and not the vast majority of people would agree with me and not you. I would find it hard to look in the mirror every day if I didn't.
dittybopper: If we have reports of a sulfury, rotten egg or fart smell, that would cinch it.
orclover: that much smoke would indicate black powder (fark explosive expert brigade!), but it would take ALOT to produce that much carnage. If you buy a canister or two of black powder, nobody cares, you are probably going hunting with your musket that weekend. If you buy 3 or 4 canisters, the gun store employees will raise their eyebrows, specially if you pay in cash, questions will be asked, notes taken. Hit 2 or 3 stores like this and you will find out that gun stores talk to each other. This is a hellova lot more than 3 or 4 cylinders. If it was black powder, it was a shiatload. Enough to fill a backpack or hell a trashcan, that flash is fricking huge. Which would give credit to the theory that it wasnt black powder. Ammonium Nitrate however is not that hard to get ahold of in farm areas and not as secured as you would hope. A tractor supply store near a buddy of mines ranch even leaves the shed they keep it in unlocked with a cat nearby, keys in ready to load./Fark Demolitionist Brigade member #457713//our patch got lost in the mail
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