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2013-04-16 09:48:21 AM
I can't seem to find information about this anywhere.  There was a second explosion eight seconds after the first one.  Was anyone injured in that second explosion?
 
2013-04-16 09:49:00 AM

Hack Patooey: TheSelphie: Mumbles sounds drunk.  Not that I would blame him if he is.

He always sounds like that.  "City of Boston" = "shiatty Abortion" in his dialect, whatever the hell dialect that is.


I know he has the dialect and all, I'm from Boston myself.  But I dunno, he just seemed off to me.
 
2013-04-16 09:49:11 AM

SurelyShirley: BigBooper: I saw picture 8! What is seen can't be unseen!

I saw picture 8 and pretty much all the other images and videos that were posted yesterday. While I'm not grossed out by graphic images like that, what got to me this morning was, that this guy wakes up today (hopefully, he was well sedated overnight), and that's his new reality. It's not a picture, it's his life that changed forever within a split second because of some demented person's agenda.


And it is reported that between 20-25 people have lost at least one leg. And an 8 year old child who was eagerly waiting for his father to cross the finish line is dead, as well as I believe 2 others so far. In a sense, THAT is what we DON'T get to much from other countries. We hear about 50 people killed in a car bomb in Iraq and it's just a number in the media. When it happens here, every victim has their own life story and the human suffering this sort of thing causes REALLY sinks in.
 
2013-04-16 09:49:26 AM

Red_Fox: Novart: WillofJ2: The fact only three people have died is amazing, News just described multiple lost limbs and open abdominal and chest wounds

I believe the number is four now, but still fairly low.

Can't say for sure if true but they are reporting here (Toronto) on the radio that one of the MD's involved with the serious injuries was a former trauma surgeon for the military in Afghanistan and supposedly his experience treating IED injuries really helped the victims in this case.  I can see that you would not be prepared for that kind of injury if you were an ER Doctor or surgeon.



They were interviewing one of the doctors last night and he was saying on of his colleagues treated allot of these injuries while he was deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, probably the same guy. I saw enough of this carnage over there and it isn't a pretty site. But I wasn't treating anyone other than slap a tourniquet on them and get on them truck or helo. The video reminded me of Afghanistan I can understand what people are going through right now.
 
2013-04-16 09:50:38 AM

WinoRhino: chocolate covered poop: I really think people waste way too much time speculating [Followed by speculation... SNIP]


SmellsLikePoo: chocolate covered poop: I really think people waste way too much time speculating [followed by speculation]


Points well taken.  I wasn't trying to suggest that all speculation is bad, but if you ARE going to speculate, then focusing on the significance/numerology of the particular date seems like a waste of time to me.  And also I just wanted to point out that in my scanning of these threads there has been so much focus on either Tea Partiers and AQ, and not much on the single white male loner college student type.  Just find it interesting, nothing more than that.
 
2013-04-16 09:50:39 AM

BigGrnEggGriller: They talk funny there.  Like they have a communal speech impediment or something.  Anyone else notice that?


What, are you wicked retarded? It's a farkin' accent, brah.
 
2013-04-16 09:51:58 AM

Dwight_Yeast: bdub77: One sec, I've just gotta do this line of coke here.......ahhhh.

Oliver Stone! What are you doing posting here?


Look, I'm just saying. It's really obvious here. Look at what we know.

There was a fire at the JFK Library the day of the bombings.
JFK was killed by a man in the book depository.
There is a JFK airport in NYC.
9/11 was in NYC.
JFK was from Massachusetts.
It was Patriot's Day.
JFK was a patriot.

Study it out!

That's right. JFK was responsible.
 
2013-04-16 09:52:14 AM

FLMountainMan: My point isn't to blame liberals for this attack.  I don't even care what group did this.  If it was a "liberal" group, it in no way some sort of victory for conservative principles.  If it was a "conservative" group, I don't think that validates big government.

My point is that implying it could not have been a "liberal" group is as stupid as implying it must've been Muslims/Christians/Tea Partiers/Puerto Rican Separatists, etc...

Every group has crazies.  Those who think their party/team/ideology is infallible are idiots.


...yet you're the one attempting to claim that Rev Jim Jones was a Liberal terrorist.

/tell me again how both sides are bad
 
2013-04-16 09:52:48 AM

TheSelphie: I know he has the dialect and all, I'm from Boston myself. But I dunno, he just seemed off to me.


he has his nickname for a reason.
 
2013-04-16 09:52:52 AM

RexTalionis: Not always, remember the Olympic Park Bomber Eric Rudolph, who bombed the Olympic Park to protest global socialism and abortions?


He's the only one I can remember that didn't have a specific target.

In the initial thread, I put my bet down on an Islamic group because of the target selection but backed off when it looked like the library had been hit too.

Our domestics - both left and right - almost always attack with a purpose.  Government, abortion providers, animal organizations, etc.  They almost never target random civilians for simple shock value like their Islamic brethren.

Of course, many a fark leftie jumped all over be because logic and history interferes with their fantasy vision of an American right wing nutjob.
 
2013-04-16 09:52:53 AM

Alonjar: Muslims rush to take credit for things like this... white people try not to get caught. That's my stereotypical take on it.


most stereotypes have a grain of truth, fortunately or unfortunately, it is what it is. that said, if this was some kind of "statement" attack (we have seen that there are literally hundreds of "reasons" why someone might chose this day and location to make their sick and twisted "point") someone or some group would likely be falling all over themselves to take credit and draw attention to their "cause" or whatever.

i still think we have an individual or small group of nutcases, 70/30 likelihood of homegrown, and, though willing to commit these atrocious acts, are cowardly, deathly afraid of getting caught.

this is going to come out sounding wrong, or insensitive, but the point is clear even if the comparison is a bad one; it is easier to get my head around someone who commits an act for a cause and accepts the consequences of their actions. as sick as that is, it at least has some logic to it.

not to say i agree with this point of view, because KILLING INNOCENTS! but i can at least trace the line of thinking to a logical conclusion. this is why this thing is so hard to process right now. we have no "why" and we kind of need one to begin to sort this out in our own minds. the "why" is not relevant and no matter what it turns out to be it can never justify the attack, but to help absorb the shock and horror, we need to know it. it helps to know that there is a reason, however irrelevant and stupid it might be, because with a reason, we can then act to find and bring the perps to some sort of justice. random acts are much harder to deal with.

/not discounting the suffering of victims, families, residents, visitors, service providers, etc. i have covered them in a previous post, but like everyone else, while still horrified, saddened, and concerned about the victims, the immediate shock of this for me has kind of faded into a strong desire to see resolution in the form of catching the bastard or bastards who did this.
 
2013-04-16 09:52:57 AM

pslong009: TheSelphie: Mumbles sounds drunk.  Not that I would blame him if he is.

He broke his leg last week, so he's probably on some pretty major pain relievers.


Yeah I know that too.  That's the first thing I thought of.  Probably barely staying awake.
 
2013-04-16 09:53:25 AM
Hmmm. Something strange here. Did anyone look through the LiveLeak pictures. Look at picture 3 and 4 of the young man missing what appears to be his leg from his pattela, his fibia, and his foot. Now, why I'm saying that's weird is the way the blast would work. If you're standing right next to it, wouldn't the blast radiate out and up. His damage appears to affect only from his knee down. Otherword it's like a shaped charge or like he stepped on whatever it was and the blast blew upwards and destroyed the foot, and tibia. I saw something like that years and years ago back in Desert Storm one. I was with the Canadian Army back then and saw a lot of American soldiers coming through triage. That looks like blast damage from a mine. Am I wrong, I know it was a long time ago, but that doesn't appear like damage from an IED. I could be wrong, again that's a long time ago. Any farkers serve in Iraq of Afghanistan have a look and tell me what you see.
 
2013-04-16 09:53:42 AM
Has anyone questing MTV?  Seriously.

September 10, 2001 - MTV Music Awards
September 11, 2001 - Nuff Said

April 14, 2013 - MTV Movie Awards
April 15, 2013 - Boston Marathon Bombing

/Once is a chance, twice is a coincidence, third time is a pattern
 
2013-04-16 09:53:47 AM

bdub77: Dwight_Yeast: bdub77: One sec, I've just gotta do this line of coke here.......ahhhh.

Oliver Stone! What are you doing posting here?

Look, I'm just saying. It's really obvious here. Look at what we know.

There was a fire at the JFK Library the day of the bombings.
JFK was killed by a man in the book depository.
There is a JFK airport in NYC.
9/11 was in NYC.
JFK was from Massachusetts.
It was Patriot's Day.
JFK was a patriot.

Study it out!

That's right. JFK was responsible.


Thank you.  That was beautiful and made me laugh, which is something I needed today.
 
2013-04-16 09:56:02 AM

robohobo: Guy looks amazingly calm...NSFW


Going into shock will do that to you.
 
2013-04-16 09:56:41 AM

indarwinsshadow: Hmmm. Something strange here. Did anyone look through the LiveLeak pictures. Look at picture 3 and 4 of the young man missing what appears to be his leg from his pattela, his fibia, and his foot. Now, why I'm saying that's weird is the way the blast would work. If you're standing right next to it, wouldn't the blast radiate out and up. His damage appears to affect only from his knee down. Otherword it's like a shaped charge or like he stepped on whatever it was and the blast blew upwards and destroyed the foot, and tibia. I saw something like that years and years ago back in Desert Storm one. I was with the Canadian Army back then and saw a lot of American soldiers coming through triage. That looks like blast damage from a mine. Am I wrong, I know it was a long time ago, but that doesn't appear like damage from an IED. I could be wrong, again that's a long time ago. Any farkers serve in Iraq of Afghanistan have a look and tell me what you see.


I'm sure the metal lined trash can had something to do with the shrapnel flying into people's lower extremities.
 
2013-04-16 09:56:47 AM
FBI and ATF briefing says only two devices and both were detonated.
 
2013-04-16 09:57:05 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Sudden stress/chaos/fear.  Uncharitable to second guess anyone in the middle of it, but...
[i309.photobucket.com image 233x310]

...what was the cop with the pistol think he was going to do; shoot the next explosion?
The other police, in this picture and others, didn't seem to have their weapons drawn, so, is he the only one doing it right?
Did he see someone that he thought was a threat? Or does he need retraining?


Firstly, the cop on the left is a she, not a he. Her finger is not on the trigger--she clearly has excellent training and discipline, and is reacting on that training and instinct in an uncertain situation. I applaud her, as I do everyone who responded yesterday.
 
2013-04-16 09:58:10 AM

TheSelphie: Mumbles sounds drunk.  Not that I would blame him if he is.


Mumbles always sounds drunk.
 
2013-04-16 09:58:13 AM
I looked at the LiveLeak photos. Ho. Lee. Farkin'. Shiat. (NSF anyone, anywhere. Ever.)


Old enough to know better: digistil: The Westboro Baptist Church has identified the perp: Jesus.
 
http://www.ibtimes.com/westboro-baptist-church-hails-boston-marathon -e xplosion-plans-picket-funerals-1194185

Why these bastards haven't had their "church" firebombed by now continues to puzzle me.



THIS.

Yeah, they're attention whores and trolls, and ignoring them might be the best thing... is what I'd normally say. However, having looked at the horror of the mangled bodies and blood everywhere, and knowing that an 8-year-old died, my first reaction was that someone needs to take those SOBs out. Give them what they're wishing on everyone else.  (Not me. Just sayin'.)


 
2013-04-16 09:58:29 AM
What is this shiat about Obama not saying the word "terrorism"?

That long after 9/11, Bush was in hiding.
 
2013-04-16 09:58:35 AM

sid244: Has anyone questing MTV?  Seriously.

September 10, 2001 - MTV Music Awards
September 11, 2001 - Nuff Said

April 14, 2013 - MTV Movie Awards
April 15, 2013 - Boston Marathon Bombing

/Once is a chance, twice is a coincidence, third time is a pattern


How could you possibly have left out this?
 
2013-04-16 09:58:38 AM
img715.imageshack.us

not trolling. just trying to lighten the mood.
 
2013-04-16 09:59:36 AM

Half Right: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Sudden stress/chaos/fear.  Uncharitable to second guess anyone in the middle of it, but...
[i309.photobucket.com image 233x310]

...what was the cop with the pistol think he was going to do; shoot the next explosion?
The other police, in this picture and others, didn't seem to have their weapons drawn, so, is he the only one doing it right?
Did he see someone that he thought was a threat? Or does he need retraining?

Firstly, the cop on the left is a she, not a he. Her finger is not on the trigger--she clearly has excellent training and discipline, and is reacting on that training and instinct in an uncertain situation. I applaud her, as I do everyone who responded yesterday.


Yes.  She did exactly what she was trained to do.
 
2013-04-16 09:59:55 AM

BigGrnEggGriller: They talk funny there.  Like they have a communal speech impediment or something.  Anyone else notice that?


People from different regions of the country have varying regional dialects. Astute observation, Corn-fed Sherlock...
 
2013-04-16 10:00:23 AM

JusticeandIndependence: indarwinsshadow: Hmmm. Something strange here. Did anyone look through the LiveLeak pictures. Look at picture 3 and 4 of the young man missing what appears to be his leg from his pattela, his fibia, and his foot. Now, why I'm saying that's weird is the way the blast would work. If you're standing right next to it, wouldn't the blast radiate out and up. His damage appears to affect only from his knee down. Otherword it's like a shaped charge or like he stepped on whatever it was and the blast blew upwards and destroyed the foot, and tibia. I saw something like that years and years ago back in Desert Storm one. I was with the Canadian Army back then and saw a lot of American soldiers coming through triage. That looks like blast damage from a mine. Am I wrong, I know it was a long time ago, but that doesn't appear like damage from an IED. I could be wrong, again that's a long time ago. Any farkers serve in Iraq of Afghanistan have a look and tell me what you see.

I'm sure the metal lined trash can had something to do with the shrapnel flying into people's lower extremities.


Wouldn't have peeled his leg like that. Flying metal amputates. I've looked at the pictures again, and you know. I'm pretty sure that was a mine of some sorts. Even the explosion looks like a mine. Straight upwards. Something strange about that blast. I'm not paranoid but I'm kind of wondering what the hell is going on.
 
2013-04-16 10:00:58 AM

DesktopHippie: MinkeyMan: This is tragic and horrific... and yet if the exact same happened in London 20 years ago, South Boston would be one big street party.

Between the IRA and Al Queida, London has been bombed a whole bunch of times in the last 40 years. Considering there were no street parties here in Ireland, I doubt there were any in Boston either.


I wouldn't be so sure. I came across far more anti-British sentiment in Boston then I ever did in the republic.
 
2013-04-16 10:03:11 AM
 Day two and nobody has taken responsibility for it? I'm going to have to  go with domestic terrorist since Al Qaeda would have already relased a statement bragging about it. Our terrorist seem to be a bit more guttless.

Hypnozombie
 
2013-04-16 10:03:15 AM
Not trying to disturb anyone, so please delete if the picture bothers anybody, but look at the explosion. That's up...not out.

d1pax3e3t5tpyh.cloudfront.net
 
2013-04-16 10:05:16 AM

indarwinsshadow: JusticeandIndependence: indarwinsshadow: Hmmm. Something strange here. Did anyone look through the LiveLeak pictures. Look at picture 3 and 4 of the young man missing what appears to be his leg from his pattela, his fibia, and his foot. Now, why I'm saying that's weird is the way the blast would work. If you're standing right next to it, wouldn't the blast radiate out and up. His damage appears to affect only from his knee down. Otherword it's like a shaped charge or like he stepped on whatever it was and the blast blew upwards and destroyed the foot, and tibia. I saw something like that years and years ago back in Desert Storm one. I was with the Canadian Army back then and saw a lot of American soldiers coming through triage. That looks like blast damage from a mine. Am I wrong, I know it was a long time ago, but that doesn't appear like damage from an IED. I could be wrong, again that's a long time ago. Any farkers serve in Iraq of Afghanistan have a look and tell me what you see.

I'm sure the metal lined trash can had something to do with the shrapnel flying into people's lower extremities.

Wouldn't have peeled his leg like that. Flying metal amputates. I've looked at the pictures again, and you know. I'm pretty sure that was a mine of some sorts. Even the explosion looks like a mine. Straight upwards. Something strange about that blast. I'm not paranoid but I'm kind of wondering what the hell is going on.


There was talk of somebody with backpacks, so would it be possible that a backpack/whatever was placed on the ground near a trashcan, not necessarily inside of it?
 
2013-04-16 10:05:39 AM

FLMountainMan: Says the guy who thinks liberals are incapable of organized violence.


Actually, if you go through the chain of replies, you'll find that Dwight_Yeast said nothing of the sort. The most you can draw from Dwight_Yeast's statement was that Viss apparently claims that there are exactly as many left-wing terrorist groups in the US as there are right wing terrorist groups, but could only name one group.
 
2013-04-16 10:06:10 AM

indarwinsshadow: Not trying to disturb anyone, so please delete if the picture bothers anybody, but look at the explosion. That's up...not out.

[d1pax3e3t5tpyh.cloudfront.net image 850x562]


Maybe I'm retarded, but to me that looks like the blast is originating from the right, and moving to the left...
 
2013-04-16 10:06:21 AM

abu ponster: There was an IRA apologist in the previous Boston thread and I'm sure there'll be more.


If you call apologetics trying to talk sense to a handful of morons who clearly knew very precious little of the Troubles, or "the IRA", beyond that which a cursory Wikipedia search told them, sure.
 
2013-04-16 10:06:49 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: InmanRoshi: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: ...what was the cop with the pistol think he was going to do; shoot the next explosion?

   Using explosives to disorient/incapacitate a target before using gun fire is pretty standard Ambush 101.    How was he supposed to know that gunmen weren't soon to follow?    Everyone is an expert in hindsight on  the safety of their couches with Cheetos stained fingers.

Why is he the only one reacting this way?   it's a question about him compared to the other officers. not to my delicious Cheetos flavored fingers.


2 things here:
That's a SHE
SHE has perfect trigger discipline.
 
2013-04-16 10:07:11 AM

Nana's Vibrator: Barnstormer: Portions of the governor's memo to state employees this morning:


...As always, I thank you for your service to the Commonwealth and ask that you show a little extra support, patience and kindness to your neighbors.

Sincerely,

Duval Patrick

He must be tired .  He spelled his own name wrong.


The mistake was totally mine. The sig was signed, not printed. But you are right, I'll bet he got very little sleep.
 
2013-04-16 10:08:05 AM

JustGetItRight: fantasy vision of an American right wing nutjob.


There isn't much fantasy involved when you look at how the right foams at the mouth over everything.
The logic is: You say it enough, type it enough, get angry enough and if it's in the name of Dog, anything is possible.
 
2013-04-16 10:08:43 AM

indarwinsshadow: Not trying to disturb anyone, so please delete if the picture bothers anybody, but look at the explosion. That's up...not out.

[d1pax3e3t5tpyh.cloudfront.net image 850x562]


Look back, and to the left.... to me.
 
2013-04-16 10:08:51 AM

sseye: What is this shiat about Obama not saying the word "terrorism"?

That long after 9/11, Bush was in hiding.


Probably he doesn't want to give anyone any kind of ammunition to those just looking for an excuse for revenge.  Like...

"We better go out an find us sum terrorists to lynch caus-in the presOdent says it's terrorism."

//Thank you Obama
 
2013-04-16 10:09:02 AM
Holy sh*t! There are some God-awful pictures out there!!
 
2013-04-16 10:09:14 AM

indarwinsshadow: Not trying to disturb anyone, so please delete if the picture bothers anybody, but look at the explosion. That's up...not out.

[d1pax3e3t5tpyh.cloudfront.net image 850x562]


Disagree.
 
2013-04-16 10:09:19 AM
is anyone else sick of the thoughts and prayers bullshiat?  why do we as a nation value/mourn these few dead and injured over the many more who died and or injured by cause [blank] daily?  there's no jingle your car keys in support of those who died march 28th (random ass day) in auto accidents, but then people suggest wear a running shirt to support those in boston.  why do we pretend to care more about a few deaths that happen to lead the nightly news?

/yeah, yeah, yeah.  i'm old and bitter.
 
2013-04-16 10:09:23 AM

tommyl66: indarwinsshadow: JusticeandIndependence: indarwinsshadow: Hmmm. Something strange here. Did anyone look through the LiveLeak pictures. Look at picture 3 and 4 of the young man missing what appears to be his leg from his pattela, his fibia, and his foot. Now, why I'm saying that's weird is the way the blast would work. If you're standing right next to it, wouldn't the blast radiate out and up. His damage appears to affect only from his knee down. Otherword it's like a shaped charge or like he stepped on whatever it was and the blast blew upwards and destroyed the foot, and tibia. I saw something like that years and years ago back in Desert Storm one. I was with the Canadian Army back then and saw a lot of American soldiers coming through triage. That looks like blast damage from a mine. Am I wrong, I know it was a long time ago, but that doesn't appear like damage from an IED. I could be wrong, again that's a long time ago. Any farkers serve in Iraq of Afghanistan have a look and tell me what you see.

I'm sure the metal lined trash can had something to do with the shrapnel flying into people's lower extremities.

Wouldn't have peeled his leg like that. Flying metal amputates. I've looked at the pictures again, and you know. I'm pretty sure that was a mine of some sorts. Even the explosion looks like a mine. Straight upwards. Something strange about that blast. I'm not paranoid but I'm kind of wondering what the hell is going on.

There was talk of somebody with backpacks, so would it be possible that a backpack/whatever was placed on the ground near a trashcan, not necessarily inside of it?


I don't know. A contained blast or a shaped charge fans upwards or outwards. A ground level blast from an IED would fan outwards in a radiated blast. You'd try and get the most damage from the surroundings. A grenade is a good example. Lots of small bits of sharpnel take out a large enemy target. Look at the size of the blast, and how few dead. Again, that's weird (in my view). If it were at ground level, and packed with explosives and shrapnel, wouldn't the blast have skipped along the ground following the pressure wave, and scythed through the crowd killing a lot more than 3 people. Again, I'm just guessing. There's probably farkers of military background who know a hell of a lot more about this than I do.
 
2013-04-16 10:10:02 AM

indarwinsshadow: Not trying to disturb anyone, so please delete if the picture bothers anybody, but look at the explosion. That's up...not out.

[d1pax3e3t5tpyh.cloudfront.net image 850x562]


Couple of points:

1. Explosions at ground level are like that, and
2. there is too much flame and too much smoke for that to be a military style mine.

Despite what you have seen in Hollywood movies, military explosives don't produce flame like that, nor do they produce dense white smoke.  That looks more like a device made with black powder or a black powder substitute.  A deflagrating material that "explodes" by busting the container it's in, not by actually detonating in the technical sense.
 
2013-04-16 10:10:05 AM

indarwinsshadow: Wouldn't have peeled his leg like that. Flying metal amputates. I've looked at the pictures again, and you know. I'm pretty sure that was a mine of some sorts. Even the explosion looks like a mine. Straight upwards. Something strange about that blast. I'm not paranoid but I'm kind of wondering what the hell is going on.


Wouldn't any "small" explosion at ground level produce similar injuries to a mine detonation? I mean it certainly wasn't a mine triggered by anybody stepping on it, what with the timing of the two blasts, so that means it was a remotely detonated mine. Isn't that really just the same as any remotely detonated ground-level bomb?
 
2013-04-16 10:10:42 AM

HypnozombieX: Day two and nobody has taken responsibility for it? I'm going to have to  go with domestic terrorist since Al Qaeda would have already relased a statement bragging about it. Our terrorist seem to be a bit more guttless.

Hypnozombie


Or he could be simply satisfied with knowing this it was him.

(Yes, that sounds weird.)
 
2013-04-16 10:11:52 AM
RobSeace:
No Such Agency: WBC'shiat and run act

Heh. Indeed...


Yeah that worked out okay, didn't it?
 
2013-04-16 10:12:53 AM

A Fark Handle: is anyone else sick of the thoughts and prayers bullshiat?  why do we as a nation value/mourn these few dead and injured over the many more who died and or injured by cause [blank] daily?  there's no jingle your car keys in support of those who died march 28th (random ass day) in auto accidents, but then people suggest wear a running shirt to support those in boston.  why do we pretend to care more about a few deaths that happen to lead the nightly news?

/yeah, yeah, yeah.  i'm old and bitter.


You may be old and bitter.  But that's not your real problem.  You should consult your doctor about the raging case of assholeitis you seem to have.  People care because it was an attack on innocence.  An auto accident, while tragic, is not typically intentional or targeted.
 
2013-04-16 10:14:23 AM

theotherles: HypnozombieX: Day two and nobody has taken responsibility for it? I'm going to have to  go with domestic terrorist since Al Qaeda would have already relased a statement bragging about it. Our terrorist seem to be a bit more guttless.

Hypnozombie

Or he could be simply satisfied with knowing this it was him.

(Yes, that sounds weird.)


Or the guy responsible could be in custody.
How does stuff like that normally work?  Do the terrorists give their superiors a heads up about their plans, or do they just call in after they're done?  Seems like leading up to it you'd want as few people to know the details as possible.
 
2013-04-16 10:14:53 AM

Mose: InmanRoshi: ZackDanger: crumblecat: Trying to be objective here, which is not easy as this is horrifying.

The first thing that grabs my attention is the bangs were more of a soft "whump" then the sharp crack of military explosives. That suggests something small and home mixed. And despite the carnage close to the explosions, it could have been a lot worse. A significant military charge would have blown the crowd barriers clean across the street and taken out most of the people on the road.

Anybody notice it's 20 years after Waco, almost to the day? My money is on home-grown.

But who knows. No one nation or religion has a monopoly on nut jobs.

My thoughts are with all who suffered.

Everyone I know noticed the same thing. Appeared to be a low explosive... perhaps gunpowder pipe-bomb type thing. Smaller in nature.

Authorities have said that it was likely a crude,  small home made bomb, and that no C4 showed up in the ballistics testing.     It also detonated during one of the slowest times of the race.    There were much larger crowds just a few hours earlier.   Thankfully,  whoever did this was pretty amateurish in ballistics and planning.

Regarding the timing, someone in another thread pointed out that finishing times were atypically slower last year because of the unusual heat, and that it's possible someone planned this based on that.

Agree on the device construction though, something with more power could have left a much higher body count.

My wife worked at Marathon Sports near the finish line for a while, knew a lot of runners, and has volunteered in the past in the medical tent.  She was a wreck yesterday.

Oddly, though, her resolve to qualify seemed, if anything, to increase yesterday.  She's more motivated now and even told me she hopes they don't change the finish.


Good for her!
 
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