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2013-04-16 08:27:30 AM

WinoRhino: nekom: Speaking of that, is there any confirmation that ball bearings or other shrapnel was indeed included in the bombs? It was reported early on, but so were other things that didn't pan out.

In the video you see an older runner collapse in the middle of the street as the bomb went off to his left. When interviewed he said he fell because shrapnel his his legs. That's the only sure thing I have heard about it.


That's one thing, the man was 78 and in better shape than me.
 
2013-04-16 08:28:09 AM
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crab66: WillofJ2: The fact only three people have died is amazing, News just described multiple lost limbs and open abdominal and chest wounds

Trauma medicine is pretty amazing. It's all the quality of life stuff that comes after where we still have a long long way to go.


The response was pretty awesome. Huge props to all the EMTs, the hospital staff and the off-duty doctors and nurses who were at the race and rushed over to help.
 
2013-04-16 08:28:46 AM

WinoRhino: nekom: Speaking of that, is there any confirmation that ball bearings or other shrapnel was indeed included in the bombs? It was reported early on, but so were other things that didn't pan out.

In the video you see an older runner collapse in the middle of the street as the bomb went off to his left. When interviewed he said he fell because shrapnel his his legs. That's the only sure thing I have heard about it.


I have a friend of a friend association who was in surgery last night for shrapnel removal.
 
2013-04-16 08:29:11 AM

WinoRhino: nekom: Speaking of that, is there any confirmation that ball bearings or other shrapnel was indeed included in the bombs? It was reported early on, but so were other things that didn't pan out.

In the video you see an older runner collapse in the middle of the street as the bomb went off to his left. When interviewed he said he fell because shrapnel his his legs. That's the only sure thing I have heard about it.



I just read an article about him that says he was ok, just old and got wobbled..
 
2013-04-16 08:32:00 AM

nekom: MmmmBacon: WillofJ2: The fact only three people have died is amazing, News just described multiple lost limbs and open abdominal and chest wounds

I expect a few more will pass in the next several days from their injuries, but hopefully not many. It's just simple odds, based on the large number of people wounded that some of them will die from their injuries.

But I do agree, with two bombs in a crowded area, the number of dead is startling low, something we can all be glad about on this terrible day.

There were a lot of emergency personnel standing by, that surely contributed to the relatively low fatalities. There are going to be some SERIOUSLY maimed survivors, I've seen the graphic photos, the man whose legs were literally blown off is seared into my memory now.

Speaking of that, is there any confirmation that ball bearings or other shrapnel was indeed included in the bombs? It was reported early on, but so were other things that didn't pan out.


I've seen reports that back up the ball bearings claim, and others that refute it, so I think it is way too early to know for sure. The FBI and police won't say, because they don't want to give out too much information. I suspect eventually we'll know all the details, but right now it's a little early for that.
 
2013-04-16 08:32:05 AM

WinoRhino: nekom: Speaking of that, is there any confirmation that ball bearings or other shrapnel was indeed included in the bombs? It was reported early on, but so were other things that didn't pan out.

In the video you see an older runner collapse in the middle of the street as the bomb went off to his left. When interviewed he said he fell because shrapnel his his legs. That's the only sure thing I have heard about it.


The sheer number of lower limb injuries guarantees that there was shrapnel in the bombs.  That runner who fell either got hit by a piece that really traveled, or by a secondary piece of shrapnel generated by the explosion.
 
2013-04-16 08:32:07 AM

WinoRhino: nekom: Speaking of that, is there any confirmation that ball bearings or other shrapnel was indeed included in the bombs? It was reported early on, but so were other things that didn't pan out.

In the video you see an older runner collapse in the middle of the street as the bomb went off to his left. When interviewed he said he fell because shrapnel his his legs. That's the only sure thing I have heard about it.


And that could have been bits of just about anything even other victims... CBC was saying there was no evidence of ball barrings or nails or what-have-you in the bombs.
 
2013-04-16 08:32:19 AM

AlanSmithee: On one hand, I find all the wild speculation about  the perpetrators' motives kind of annoying.  On the other hand, maybe it's just that some people, sympathizing with the victims, are going out on a limb.


I see what you did there, but some of the victims either didn't make it out or didn't have limbs on which to go out.

/dark humor appreciated
//assholes with bombs not appreciated
///third slashies always appreciated
 
2013-04-16 08:32:29 AM

Mose: Alonjar: Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: I apologize if it has already been covered, but did the authorities check for radiation or biological agents? I doubt there are any, but you never know.

Probably.  After 9/11 all major cities adopted strict protocols for dealing with terror attacks and mass casualty situations.  I actually thought the response to this was amazing, they did everything they were supposed to do right away and probably saved the lives of most of those people with severe injuries.  The fact the death count is so low is due more to a great response than a lack of severe wounds.

And not just major cities, pretty much every municipality with a functioning emergency response system.

I'm on a podunk volunteer department in rural CT that has trained for MCIs and the only mass gathering near us is a yearly country fair.  It's just the reality of post 9/11.


Is this just a post 9/11 thing?  Mass casualties have been going on long before that: traffic accidents, fires, tornadoes, etc.  First responders have to be prepared for anything, and it looks like they were in Boston.  Needless to say those on standby at the finish line were not posted to deal with a bombing but to deal with runners who push it too hard.  But when the shiat went down, they rose to the occasion, quite admirably.
 
2013-04-16 08:32:39 AM

Farce-Side: So, I scanned through this thread looking for a certain phrase, and thankfully I didn't see it.  I swear to God, I've heard the words "false flag" more in the past 24 hours than I have in my entire lifetime.  Speculative bullshiat is bullshiat.  Let's do this one right and find the person or people responsible, try them based on evidence, and then beat the living shiat out of them.


They're scared it really will turn out to be a domestic terrorist/teaparty patriot, so they want to poison the well as early and as much as possible.

If it was a domestic ultraconservative group, the groundwork for denial has been laid. If it's any other more palpable group (eg "brown people") then they sweep the false flag allegations into the memory hole like it never happened. It's win-win for the derpers provided you have the attention span of a goldfish with ADHD.
=Smidge=
 
2013-04-16 08:32:50 AM

Hardy-r-r: vygramul: April 15 is the anniversary of Amritsar.

That would be a British thing, and London is hosting a major marathon next week.


I know. I just threw that out there for the hell of it. It's also the first time a helicopter flew for more than an hour.
 
2013-04-16 08:33:32 AM

MmmmBacon: WillofJ2: The fact only three people have died is amazing, News just described multiple lost limbs and open abdominal and chest wounds

I expect a few more will pass in the next several days from their injuries, but hopefully not many. It's just simple odds, based on the large number of people wounded that some of them will die from their injuries.

But I do agree, with two bombs in a crowded area, the number of dead is startling low, something we can all be glad about on this terrible day.


If they have anything going for them, it's that there are something like five or six world class, level I trauma centers right there.
 
2013-04-16 08:34:26 AM

Abox: WinoRhino: nekom: Speaking of that, is there any confirmation that ball bearings or other shrapnel was indeed included in the bombs? It was reported early on, but so were other things that didn't pan out.

In the video you see an older runner collapse in the middle of the street as the bomb went off to his left. When interviewed he said he fell because shrapnel his his legs. That's the only sure thing I have heard about it.


I just read an article about him that says he was ok, just old and got wobbled..


I thought that he must have been hit by some fragment to go down like that, since there were several people around him closer to the blast and they were still standing.

And yeah, I am 25 years younger than him and I ain't doing any marathons anytime soon. I'd be wobbly too after running 26.19999 miles.
 
2013-04-16 08:34:50 AM

nekom: Speaking of that, is there any confirmation that ball bearings or other shrapnel was indeed included in the bombs? It was reported early on, but so were other things that didn't pan out.


Its confirmed that ball bearings were removed from people, but the hospital said that they make no statement as to whether they were intentional shrapnel or part of the debris from the environment.
 
2013-04-16 08:35:30 AM
As a father and a person who loves my family, I can't conceive of the grief those who have lost loved ones or have family members who are severely injured must be feeling now.  My thoughts are entirely with them.

Take care of yourselves.
 
2013-04-16 08:36:36 AM

Abox: WinoRhino: nekom: Speaking of that, is there any confirmation that ball bearings or other shrapnel was indeed included in the bombs? It was reported early on, but so were other things that didn't pan out.

In the video you see an older runner collapse in the middle of the street as the bomb went off to his left. When interviewed he said he fell because shrapnel his his legs. That's the only sure thing I have heard about it.


I just read an article about him that says he was ok, just old and got wobbled..


That's what I understood.  The concussion jellied his legs for a few seconds, and he went down.  I'm sure at the end of a marathon, my legs would go to jelly if I went past a box fan.
 
2013-04-16 08:36:50 AM

luxup: Since we don't know who is responsible at this point I say we stop blaming particular cultures and instead blame cultural influences.  That is way I say we should be blaming this on either Rap or Heavy Metal music.

I know is not fair to those who may listen to either (or both) but I just think the arguments will be more entertaining.


Really it's the rapmetal the kids are listening to these days that's the real bad influence.
 
2013-04-16 08:37:48 AM

MmmmBacon:
I've seen reports that back up the ball bearings claim, and others that refute it, so I think it is way too early to know for sure. The FBI and police won't say, because they don't want to give out too much information. I suspect eventually we'll know all the details, but right now it's a little early for that.


I'm not sure why they wouldn't disclose the nature of the bombs, not sure how that could possibly impede their investigation, but well that's for them to decide, not me of course. The injuries look quite consistent with high shrapnel, especially the infamous photo #8 guy who appears to have had his legs just cut out from under him. And even the overall photos, blood is absolutely EVERYWHERE.

I'm also going to go ahead and assume that this will be entirely a federal investigation with federal terrorism charges, so this will likely be a capital trial if the perp is alive.
 
2013-04-16 08:38:07 AM

WinoRhino: nekom: Speaking of that, is there any confirmation that ball bearings or other shrapnel was indeed included in the bombs? It was reported early on, but so were other things that didn't pan out.

In the video you see an older runner collapse in the middle of the street as the bomb went off to his left. When interviewed he said he fell because shrapnel his his legs. That's the only sure thing I have heard about it.


A guy interviewed on cnn yesterday said he found black pellets that looked like shot gun shot in his clothing and multiple doctors have described shrapnel injuries
 
2013-04-16 08:38:28 AM

Mose: MmmmBacon: WillofJ2: The fact only three people have died is amazing, News just described multiple lost limbs and open abdominal and chest wounds

I expect a few more will pass in the next several days from their injuries, but hopefully not many. It's just simple odds, based on the large number of people wounded that some of them will die from their injuries.

But I do agree, with two bombs in a crowded area, the number of dead is startling low, something we can all be glad about on this terrible day.

If they have anything going for them, it's that there are something like five or six world class, level I trauma centers right there.


Indeed. The initial emergency response was fantastic, and the ongoing care at local hospitals appears to be top-notch. While one never wants to see a disaster like this happen, the response in Boston seems to have been a textbook example to be followed for all future MCI events.

Disaster in your town? Do what Boston did.
 
2013-04-16 08:38:38 AM

OrangeSnapper: Is this just a post 9/11 thing?  Mass casualties have been going on long before that: traffic accidents, fires, tornadoes, etc.  First responders have to be prepared for anything, and it looks like they were in Boston.  Needless to say those on standby at the finish line were not posted to deal with a bombing but to deal with runners who push it too hard.  But when the shiat went down, they rose to the occasion, quite admirably.


After 9/11 federal funds became available for the programs.  I'm sure most cities had a plan of some kind, but this introduced organized standards and.. like i said... free money.
 
2013-04-16 08:38:42 AM
Sudden stress/chaos/fear.  Uncharitable to second guess anyone in the middle of it, but...


i309.photobucket.com

...what was the cop with the pistol think he was going to do; shoot the next explosion?

The other police, in this picture and others, didn't seem to have their weapons drawn, so, is he the only one doing it right?
Did he see someone that he thought was a threat? Or does he need retraining?
 
2013-04-16 08:39:54 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Sudden stress/chaos/fear.  Uncharitable to second guess anyone in the middle of it, but...

...what was the cop with the pistol think he was going to do; shoot the next explosion?


I'm sure he was following orders.
 
2013-04-16 08:40:40 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Sudden stress/chaos/fear.  Uncharitable to second guess anyone in the middle of it, but...


[i309.photobucket.com image 233x310]

...what was the cop with the pistol think he was going to do; shoot the next explosion?

The other police, in this picture and others, didn't seem to have their weapons drawn, so, is he the only one doing it right?
Did he see someone that he thought was a threat? Or does he need retraining?


Probably scared shiatless like everyone else and relying on instinct.
 
2013-04-16 08:40:58 AM

OrangeSnapper: Mose: Alonjar: Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: I apologize if it has already been covered, but did the authorities check for radiation or biological agents? I doubt there are any, but you never know.

Probably.  After 9/11 all major cities adopted strict protocols for dealing with terror attacks and mass casualty situations.  I actually thought the response to this was amazing, they did everything they were supposed to do right away and probably saved the lives of most of those people with severe injuries.  The fact the death count is so low is due more to a great response than a lack of severe wounds.

And not just major cities, pretty much every municipality with a functioning emergency response system.

I'm on a podunk volunteer department in rural CT that has trained for MCIs and the only mass gathering near us is a yearly country fair.  It's just the reality of post 9/11.

Is this just a post 9/11 thing?  Mass casualties have been going on long before that: traffic accidents, fires, tornadoes, etc.  First responders have to be prepared for anything, and it looks like they were in Boston.  Needless to say those on standby at the finish line were not posted to deal with a bombing but to deal with runners who push it too hard.  But when the shiat went down, they rose to the occasion, quite admirably.


It was a much more location specific thing before hand.  We did MCI training pre 9/11, in our corner of the world where the worst natural disaster is a bad snow storm, but it was more based on scenarios of large car accidents, a ride failure at the fair, or something of that nature.  Something where we'd expect to call surrounding towns for mutual aid, but it pretty much stopped there.

Post 9/11 we started training for events on a much larger scale, many more victims, state wide response systems, and we did it more often.  We also incorporated more hazmat stuff.  A lot of our MCI scenarios were actually hazmat oriented.
 
2013-04-16 08:41:07 AM
How long until Alex Jones blames Fartbongo/gubmint?
 
2013-04-16 08:41:26 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: ...what was the cop with the pistol think he was going to do; shoot the next explosion?

The other police, in this picture and others, didn't seem to have their weapons drawn, so, is he the only one doing it right?
Did he see someone that he thought was a threat? Or does he need retraining?


Really?

.......really?

/I need to leave this thread... right now.
 
2013-04-16 08:41:35 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke:
...what was the cop with the pistol think he was going to do; shoot the next explosion?

The other police, in this picture and others, didn't seem to have their weapons drawn, so, is he the only one doing it right?
Did he see someone that he thought was a threat? Or does he need retraining?


You are carrying a gun and suddenly LOUD BOOM. What do you do?
 
2013-04-16 08:42:22 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Sudden stress/chaos/fear.  Uncharitable to second guess anyone in the middle of it, but...


[i309.photobucket.com image 233x310]

...what was the cop with the pistol think he was going to do; shoot the next explosion?

The other police, in this picture and others, didn't seem to have their weapons drawn, so, is he the only one doing it right?
Did he see someone that he thought was a threat? Or does he need retraining?


Is the guy on the other side of the group reaching for his?
 
2013-04-16 08:42:25 AM

digistil: How long until Alex Jones blames Fartbongo/gubmint?


Pretty sure he already did.  Just off of pure instict.
 
2013-04-16 08:42:58 AM
I really think people waste way too much time speculating about the significance of the date when things like this happen.  There are just way too many potential coincidences there that can lead you down a false trail.  I also find it funny we don't seem to take the most recent tragedies into account when considering this.  I realize extrapolating based on recent events (Sandy Hook, Aurora) is logically flawed, but still it doesn't hurt to take that recent trend into account, or at least use it as a starting point.

I'm going with college aged (and very likely a college student) white male loner type with borderline or undiagnosed mental illness.  Educated enough to piece together home made explosives, but not a career terrorist, likely his first foray into violence.  Hopefully there's some FB or twitter account.  I think Anon could play a key role in bringing this guy in, if he doesn't kill himself first.

-Ruling out AQ, as they likely would have gone for bigger results, and I expect would be competent enough with improvised explosives to make this event much worse than it was.  I suppose it could still be a guy like the Fort Hood shooter, but while he was motivated by religion he acted more as a lone wolf.

- Ruling out fundamentalist right wingers / tea party:  not that they aren't dumb enough or violent enough to do something like this, I don't think this has the kind of government profile that your typical nut would go for - they aren't so much interested in body count as they are in the significance of their target (i.e. federally run buildings and organizations)
 
2013-04-16 08:43:01 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: ..what was the cop with the pistol think he was going to do; shoot the next explosion?


It's a trained response.  I'd rather see a cop react that way than not have any idea what to do.

Everyone I've seen interviewed so far has said that no one had any idea what was going on until the second bomb went off.  One explosion and a good part of you hopes its a gas main or a building collapse.  Two and you know you're under attack.
 
2013-04-16 08:43:17 AM

serial_crusher: Is the guy on the other side of the group reaching for his?


Thats what it looks like to me
 
2013-04-16 08:43:36 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Sudden stress/chaos/fear.  Uncharitable to second guess anyone in the middle of it, but...


You should have stopped right there.


On a side note, there were a lot more heroes than there were villains yesterday.  Let's not forget that.
 
2013-04-16 08:43:54 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: ...what was the cop with the pistol think he was going to do; shoot the next explosion?


   Using explosives to disorient/incapacitate a target before using gun fire is pretty standard Ambush 101.    How was he supposed to know that gunmen weren't soon to follow?    Everyone is an expert in hindsight on  the safety of their couches with Cheetos stained fingers.
 
2013-04-16 08:44:03 AM

NicoFinn: mr0x: I think the bomb detonated around 4 hours into the marathon.

Isn't the qualifying time for Boston less than 3 hours? Most runners would have crossed an hour ago and only high age groups would be crossing later.

Any news on why so "late" in the marathon the bomb was detonated?

I just read in one article that was linked in this thread that the 4-hour mark is the high point for crossing the finish line and that the most people would be gathered there at that time, including family members, spectators, etc. I don't know anything about marathons, but it's a possible motive for the timing.


Not all runners started at the same time.  They start in waves or corrals.  For example, runners assigned to corral 1 might start first, then a five minute delay, then corral 2, then a five minute wait, then corral 3, etc, etc.  You can't have all 30,000 runners all start at the same time - there isn't enough room on the road.  So a runner may cross the start line 30 full minutes into the clock time, cross the finish with a clock time of 4:09:45 and have a chip time of 3:39:45.
 
2013-04-16 08:44:11 AM

SBinRR: That's what I understood.  The concussion jellied his legs for a few seconds, and he went down.  I'm sure at the end of a marathon, my legs would go to jelly if I went past a box fan.


My wife and I were talking about this very thing. She and I have both run Boston several times and when you get to that point, the only thing keeping you moving is the site of the finish line. You can barely keep forward momentum going. If there was an explosion and I had to run for it I'm pretty sure I'd just fall over and expect to be engulfed.
 
2013-04-16 08:44:25 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Sudden stress/chaos/fear.  Uncharitable to second guess anyone in the middle of it, but...




...what was the cop with the pistol think he was going to do; shoot the next explosion?

The other police, in this picture and others, didn't seem to have their weapons drawn, so, is he the only one doing it right?
Did he see someone that he thought was a threat? Or does he need retraining?


It looks like the one on the right is starting to draw as well forming a triangle and offering cover around the one helping the victim.
 
2013-04-16 08:45:19 AM

Mitch Mitchell: My pops and his friend are a o k.


good stuff Maynard
 
2013-04-16 08:45:40 AM
AM radio this morning: "Why didn't the President use they word 'terrorism'?"

Terrorism: The use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

Until there is motive, it's just an act of violence. Please shoot down any reference to terrorism as of yet. I texted into this radio station and asked why it was so important for some people to hear the word "terrorism". To me it implies people were terrified, which implies cowardice. They did not respond.

It should be called an act of cowardice, not terrorism.
 
2013-04-16 08:45:42 AM
From Boston.com:

"The person questioned in the hospital was a Saudi national, who was reportedly tackled and held by a bystander after he was seen running from near the scene of the explosion, said a law enforcement source who spoke with someone involved in the FBI's investigation. The Saudi man, believed to be a university student in Boston, is cooperating with the FBI and told agents that he was not involved in the explosions, and that he ran only because he was frightened. Investigators did not characterize the man as a suspect. No one had been arrested or charged as of late Monday night."

Some guy saw a brown guy running in fright from the bombing and immediately thought "terrorist."
 
2013-04-16 08:45:44 AM
 
2013-04-16 08:46:05 AM
Maybe it's just hopeful optimism, but I can't help but feel that with all the surveillance cameras and cell phone shots of the area the authorities probably have a bead on the offender already.  They're just going to be quiet about it until he's in custody.  I mean hell, you can't even buy a Snickers bar without being recorded by a surveillance camera these days.
 
2013-04-16 08:47:12 AM
 

pedobearapproved: you know there are only 365 days in the year and something happened on each of them in history that could be linked to some group. The birthday of a leader, the birthday of an important person, the birthday of the group, an anniversery of an event that was good for them, the anniversery of an event that was bad for them, an historical event that the group identifies with, an historical event that group is opposed to. Or, if it is a group (and I'm not saying it is), just a random day that isn't linked to them, but where a bunch of people gather for some reason, with a lot of press around.


I seems more likely (to me, at least) that the marathon happened to fall on 4/15, rather than 4/15 being significant.
 
2013-04-16 08:47:17 AM

Abox: WinoRhino: nekom: Speaking of that, is there any confirmation that ball bearings or other shrapnel was indeed included in the bombs? It was reported early on, but so were other things that didn't pan out.

In the video you see an older runner collapse in the middle of the street as the bomb went off to his left. When interviewed he said he fell because shrapnel his his legs. That's the only sure thing I have heard about it.


I just read an article about him that says he was ok, just old and got wobbled..


Plus, he was finishing a marathon. I would have been wobbly after walking 26 miles, let alone running it.
 
2013-04-16 08:47:30 AM
Back, white and red all over: Front pages in and out of Boston go gruesome, NY Daily News leads the bloody way:  http://hypervocal.com/news/2013/boston-newspaper-covers/
 
2013-04-16 08:47:56 AM

Rockstone: One should note that April is a terrible month for violence:

April 15, 2013: Boston Marathon Bombing
April 16, 2007: Virginia Tech Massacre
April 19, 1993: Waco Siege Violently Ends
April 19, 1995: Oaklahoma City Bombing
April 20, 1999: Columbine High School Massacre


It won't be happening here in MN. We all too damned depressed by the fact that we are still getting freaking snowstorms! We just don't have the energy or motivation to attack strangers at this point.
 
2013-04-16 08:48:23 AM

SlothB77: NicoFinn: mr0x: I think the bomb detonated around 4 hours into the marathon.

Isn't the qualifying time for Boston less than 3 hours? Most runners would have crossed an hour ago and only high age groups would be crossing later.

Any news on why so "late" in the marathon the bomb was detonated?

I just read in one article that was linked in this thread that the 4-hour mark is the high point for crossing the finish line and that the most people would be gathered there at that time, including family members, spectators, etc. I don't know anything about marathons, but it's a possible motive for the timing.

Not all runners started at the same time.  They start in waves or corrals.  For example, runners assigned to corral 1 might start first, then a five minute delay, then corral 2, then a five minute wait, then corral 3, etc, etc.  You can't have all 30,000 runners all start at the same time - there isn't enough room on the road.  So a runner may cross the start line 30 full minutes into the clock time, cross the finish with a clock time of 4:09:45 and have a chip time of 3:39:45.


I keep wondering why the guy targeted the finish instead of the start.  All those antsy runners crammed into corrals would make a pretty enticing target if I was a nutjob.
 
2013-04-16 08:49:17 AM

muck4doo: /Right wing nuts like McVeigh tend to attack government


Not always, remember the Olympic Park Bomber Eric Rudolph, who bombed the Olympic Park to protest global socialism and abortions?

Here is his statement:

"In the summer of 1996, the world converged upon Atlanta for the Olympic Games. Under the protection and auspices of the regime in Washington millions of people came to celebrate the ideals of global socialism. Multinational corporations spent billions of dollars, and Washington organized an army of security to protect these best of all games. Even though the conception and the purpose of the so-called Olympic movement is the promote the values of global socialism as perfectly expressed in the song "Imagine" by John Lennon, which was the theme of the 1996 Games - even though the purpose of the Olympics is to promote these despicable ideals, the purpose of the attack on July 27th was to confound, anger and embarrass the Washington government in the eyes of the world for its abominable sanctioning of abortion on demand. The plan was to force the cancellation of the Games, or at least create a state of insecurity to empty the streets around the venues and thereby eat into the vast amounts of money invested."
 
2013-04-16 08:49:26 AM
I don't know if this has anyone else's interest piqued but nobody has talked about the 'undisclosed location' of the 2nd undetonated bomb they found.
 
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