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2013-04-16 07:43:41 AM  

A Terrible Human: Farce-Side: So, I scanned through this thread looking for a certain phrase, and thankfully I didn't see it.  I swear to God, I've heard the words "false flag" more in the past 24 hours than I have in my entire lifetime.  Speculative bullshiat is bullshiat.  Let's do this one right and find the person or people responsible, try them based on evidence, and then beat the living shiat out of them.

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/Sorry about that but I had this urge.
//Better than partisan bastards waving their limp,tiny dicks at each other.


True.  Oh, and, by the way, FALSE FLAG.
 
2013-04-16 07:43:46 AM  

crumblecat: No one nation or religion has a monopoly on nut jobs


According to certain mouth breathing morons upthread this is not true.
 
2013-04-16 07:44:02 AM  

Faber: This to all the folks blasting the "jackass" who tackled the "person of interest" --

You do see the inherit irony (or hypocrisy) in criticizing a guy for doing what he thought was right, when you are completely ignorant of the facts surrounding his actions, while simultaneously criticizing those who jump to judgment before all the facts are in, right?  Whatever this guy saw that made him suspicious might have been enough to make a reasonable man act in the same way.  You guys racing to assume there was nothing to motivate him other than racism is, really, the exact same pinheadedness that you're accusing him of.

/Just sayin'.


Oh puleeze.
 
2013-04-16 07:44:13 AM  

balki1867: namegoeshere: I guess we should be thankful they're not going with the obvious "Boston Masacre Pt 2."

Too late, CNN is already calling this the Boston Massacre.  I guess people forget that even though it's been ~250 years, the Boston Massacre was actually a thing.


Does J. Jonah Jameson work for CNN now?

"Crowley, run down to the patent office, copyright 'the Boston Massacre. '  I want a quarter everytime someone says it."
 
2013-04-16 07:45:40 AM  

Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: Alonjar: Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: I apologize if it has already been covered, but did the authorities check for radiation or biological agents? I doubt there are any, but you never know.

Probably.  After 9/11 all major cities adopted strict protocols for dealing with terror attacks and mass casualty situations.  I actually thought the response to this was amazing, they did everything they were supposed to do right away and probably saved the lives of most of those people with severe injuries.  The fact the death count is so low is due more to a great response than a lack of severe wounds.

If there is a single bright spot in all of this, it's the response. I was amazed the death toll was so low. But there were so many lives changed yesterday. I hope we can muster our collective humanity to help the survivors as well as the families of the deceased.


Not to mention the amazing advances in prosthetics. Not that these people will be A-OK,  but  their chances of living a happy and fulfilling life are so much better than even ten years ago.
 
2013-04-16 07:46:21 AM  

what_now: *yawn* good morning.

Any new information or the same jibber jabber i foolishly spent 7 hours listening to last night?

Also, how long will my commute take this morning?


If you live in Boston, probably about 3 hours....Which is to say, a normal tuesday.
 
2013-04-16 07:46:26 AM  

Alonjar: Novart: digistil: Teabaggers on Twitter are outraged people suspect them without any evidence, while at the same time say Muslins are undoubtedly behind the bombing.

And people say conservatives don't have a sense of humor.

Name a terrorist attack committed by a member of the "tea party" (I can't say that name without putting it in quotations, they don't deserve it)


Like this one?


For every ONE you can find of a deranged "tea party" terrorist, I can name many "sane" leftists and liberal whackjobs. Its ALWAYS the left with their violence and murders and bombings... yes, Weather Underground... but thats somehow OK to you farktards.
 
2013-04-16 07:46:47 AM  

ZackDanger: crumblecat: Trying to be objective here, which is not easy as this is horrifying.

The first thing that grabs my attention is the bangs were more of a soft "whump" then the sharp crack of military explosives. That suggests something small and home mixed. And despite the carnage close to the explosions, it could have been a lot worse. A significant military charge would have blown the crowd barriers clean across the street and taken out most of the people on the road.

Anybody notice it's 20 years after Waco, almost to the day? My money is on home-grown.

But who knows. No one nation or religion has a monopoly on nut jobs.

My thoughts are with all who suffered.

Everyone I know noticed the same thing. Appeared to be a low explosive... perhaps gunpowder pipe-bomb type thing. Smaller in nature.


Authorities have said that it was likely a crude,  small home made bomb, and that no C4 showed up in the ballistics testing.     It also detonated during one of the slowest times of the race.    There were much larger crowds just a few hours earlier.   Thankfully,  whoever did this was pretty amateurish in ballistics and planning.
 
2013-04-16 07:47:09 AM  

Mose: Bontesla: HindiDiscoMonster: /tin foil hat mode enabled

I hate to say this, but it could have been a test run... to see our response times, how we react, etc before unleashing the real attack.

/tin foil hat mode disabled

If that's the case then we're probably talking about a group and not all lone wolf. Remotely detonated devices (to avoid injury). Interesting theory.

If it is someone/group sophisticated enough to put that much forethought and planning into it, would they have been so amateurish as to make 3 out of 5 devices duds?  Doesn't fit, IMHO.


I don't think it fits either. We're talking about a group the would have to find this target acceptable. That type of target makes sense in the Middle East because there is a strong divide that spans generations.
 
2013-04-16 07:48:50 AM  

balki1867: namegoeshere: I guess we should be thankful they're not going with the obvious "Boston Masacre Pt 2."

Too late, CNN is already calling this the Boston Massacre.  I guess people forget that even though it's been ~250 years, the Boston Massacre was actually a thing.


Patriot Facepalm.
 
2013-04-16 07:48:52 AM  

Alonjar: Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: I apologize if it has already been covered, but did the authorities check for radiation or biological agents? I doubt there are any, but you never know.

Probably.  After 9/11 all major cities adopted strict protocols for dealing with terror attacks and mass casualty situations.  I actually thought the response to this was amazing, they did everything they were supposed to do right away and probably saved the lives of most of those people with severe injuries.  The fact the death count is so low is due more to a great response than a lack of severe wounds.


And not just major cities, pretty much every municipality with a functioning emergency response system.

I'm on a podunk volunteer department in rural CT that has trained for MCIs and the only mass gathering near us is a yearly country fair.  It's just the reality of post 9/11.
 
2013-04-16 07:49:16 AM  

NeverDrunk23: April appears to be a month of disasters and tragedies.


Exactly. 9/11, for example.
 
MFK
2013-04-16 07:49:25 AM  

FloridaFarkTag: If it is Islamic Terrorism....lets not resort to dhimmitude and refuse to call Islamic Terrorism "Islamic Terrorism".

And its not just a left/right thing.  There are plenty on the right who refuse to call Islamic Terrorism as such...like Grover Norquist and many of the Fox News talking heads

The cheering of Palestinians in Palestine...the ball bearings used as shrapnel....these are signs that it was some sort of Islamic Terrorism


1) Assholes in the middle east will cheer any time we get farked with. This is mostly due to us plunging their region into a decade of war.
2) There were no ball bearings used in the bombs. That was an earlier, unconfirmed report that turned out to be bullshiat.
 
2013-04-16 07:49:26 AM  

FullMetalPanda: What if it's the Syrian rebels, the Jihad faction?  Be interesting to see the US asking the Syrians permission to bomb the hell out of the rebels.  I'm going to assume Assad would be more than happy for the US to join the war.


That would not match the Narrative very well, so I highly doubt it will happen. Even if it were a group linked to the rebels in Syria, it "officially" won't be. "Officially", the most likely group this gets pinned on, in order of likelihood, from most likely to least likely (in my humble opinion):

Lone, angry white guy
Neo-Nazi Militia
Far Right-wing Extremist group
North Korean agents
Iranian agents
Jihadists

The reason I think they will blame this on a lone bomber is simple: There are a lot of people angry with the Government right now regarding potential gun control laws, and it would play well in the media to pin it some pro-gun "nutjob", especially if the FBI can't find the culprits. Not to go all Alex Jones on this, but I could see this being used much the same way 9/11 was exploited by the Bush Administration to try to justify the war on Iraq, especially if no group takes responsibility.
 
2013-04-16 07:50:00 AM  
False Flag is the new Dead Cat Bounce.
 
2013-04-16 07:50:34 AM  

Farce-Side: So, I scanned through this thread looking for a certain phrase, and thankfully I didn't see it.  I swear to God, I've heard the words "false flag" more in the past 24 hours than I have in my entire lifetime.  Speculative bullshiat is bullshiat.  Let's do this one right and find the person or people responsible, try them based on evidence, and then beat the living shiat out of them.


I'm getting so tired of hearing people complain about people saying "false flag" over the last 24 hours.  No, we dont ever want to encourage critical thought, or question the motives and actions of our government.  Nobody would ever use a false flag attack as a precursor to war... except for all those pesky times governments have.

I'm betting on domestic nutjob with a grudge against taxes personally, but to simply wave off any possibility of people in our government doing evil things seems... illogical to me.
 
2013-04-16 07:51:31 AM  

Sensual Tyrannosaurus: Farce-Side: So, I scanned through this thread looking for a certain phrase, and thankfully I didn't see it.  I swear to God, I've heard the words "false flag" more in the past 24 hours than I have in my entire lifetime.  Speculative bullshiat is bullshiat.  Let's do this one right and find the person or people responsible, try them based on evidence, and then beat the living shiat out of them.

Seriously. I have a buddy who was calling 'false flag' before he even knew anything other than the fact that there was an explosion. I try to point out that in a false flag operation you would have someone set up to take the blame, but in this case officials aren't yet pointing any fingers. He seems impervious to logic. He just knows this has something to do with the government trying to take his freedom.


I'm sure someone in the government will propose something that limits our freedoms as a result of this, but that's not important right now, and we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.  It's asinine to think that they were responsible for this for that purpose.  Your friend is stupid and he should feel stupid.  I'm as distrustful of our leaders as the next guy, but come on, man.  Like you said, if this was a set up (and I feel bad for even giving that scenario any creedence), where's the fall guy?  I think we would have already heard about a suspect or a responsible group in that case.
 
2013-04-16 07:52:24 AM  

Alonjar: Farce-Side: So, I scanned through this thread looking for a certain phrase, and thankfully I didn't see it.  I swear to God, I've heard the words "false flag" more in the past 24 hours than I have in my entire lifetime.  Speculative bullshiat is bullshiat.  Let's do this one right and find the person or people responsible, try them based on evidence, and then beat the living shiat out of them.

I'm getting so tired of hearing people complain about people saying "false flag" over the last 24 hours.  No, we dont ever want to encourage critical thought, or question the motives and actions of our government.  Nobody would ever use a false flag attack as a precursor to war... except for all those pesky times governments have.

I'm betting on domestic nutjob with a grudge against taxes personally, but to simply wave off any possibility of people in our government doing evil things seems... illogical to me.


I'm from the Government. I'm here to help.
 
2013-04-16 07:52:29 AM  

InmanRoshi: False Flag is the new Dead Cat Bounce.


I'm waiting for "Beware the ides of April" to catch on.

/the ides
//of April
///beware
 
2013-04-16 07:52:47 AM  
I think it would be awesome to sit back and watch the society-ripping shiatstorm that would happen if it turned out to be black separatists or Jewish fundamentalists.

On the other hand, the media would just cook up a new name for the group behind it, like they did when they said "Branch Davidians" instead of "Seventh Day Adventists".
 
2013-04-16 07:52:54 AM  

namegoeshere: cc_rider: We definitely don't need to respond to this with the godawful fear-mongering that occurred after 9/11.

Yeah, good luck with that. On GMA just now: "Up next, how the country will change in the wake of the TERROR AT THE BOSTON MARATHON!" Not even 24 hours, dude.

I guess we should be thankful they're not going with the obvious "Boston Masacre Pt 2."


Boston Massacre Pt 2: Explosive Boogaloo?

/CNN is seriously for twits.
 
2013-04-16 07:53:05 AM  

Sensual Tyrannosaurus: Farce-Side: So, I scanned through this thread looking for a certain phrase, and thankfully I didn't see it.  I swear to God, I've heard the words "false flag" more in the past 24 hours than I have in my entire lifetime.  Speculative bullshiat is bullshiat.  Let's do this one right and find the person or people responsible, try them based on evidence, and then beat the living shiat out of them.

Seriously. I have a buddy who was calling 'false flag' before he even knew anything other than the fact that there was an explosion. I try to point out that in a false flag operation you would have someone set up to take the blame, but in this case officials aren't yet pointing any fingers. He seems impervious to logic. He just knows this has something to do with the government trying to take his freedom.


You need new friends.
 
2013-04-16 07:53:22 AM  
Viss
For every ONE you can find of a deranged "tea party" terrorist, I can name many "sane" leftists and liberal whackjobs. Its ALWAYS the left with their violence and murders and bombings... yes, Weather Underground... but thats somehow OK to you farktards.

I dont even know how to respond to this idiocy. This has to be a troll. Thats too much derp in one sentence.
 
2013-04-16 07:53:25 AM  

NeverDrunk23: April appears to be a month of disasters and tragedies.


April is the cruellest month, breeding
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
Memory and desire, stirring
Dull roots with spring rain.
 
2013-04-16 07:54:11 AM  

Alonjar: Muslims rush to take credit for things like this... white people try not to get caught. That's my stereotypical take on it.


I don't remember anyone taking credit for the WTC bombings.
 
2013-04-16 07:54:12 AM  
 

MmmmBacon: That would not match the Narrative very well, so I highly doubt it will happen. Even if it were a group linked to the rebels in Syria, it "officially" won't be. "Officially", the most likely group this gets pinned on, in order of likelihood, from most likely to least likely (in my humble opinion):

Lone, angry white guy
Neo-Nazi Militia
Far Right-wing Extremist group
North Korean agents
Iranian agents
Jihadists

The reason I think they will blame this on a lone bomber is simple: There are a lot of people angry with the Government right now regarding potential gun control laws, and it would play well in the media to pin it some pro-gun "nutjob", especially if the FBI can't find the culprits. Not to go all Alex Jones on this, but I could see this being used much the same way 9/11 was exploited by the Bush Administration to try to justify the war on Iraq, especially if no group takes responsibility.


Quick, you better  stock up on ammo and water.    The black helicopters are coming after you !!!

//Or is that what they WANT you to think?
///Oh shiat,  I've said too much.
//Or have I?
 
2013-04-16 07:54:20 AM  

InmanRoshi: ZackDanger: crumblecat: Trying to be objective here, which is not easy as this is horrifying.

The first thing that grabs my attention is the bangs were more of a soft "whump" then the sharp crack of military explosives. That suggests something small and home mixed. And despite the carnage close to the explosions, it could have been a lot worse. A significant military charge would have blown the crowd barriers clean across the street and taken out most of the people on the road.

Anybody notice it's 20 years after Waco, almost to the day? My money is on home-grown.

But who knows. No one nation or religion has a monopoly on nut jobs.

My thoughts are with all who suffered.

Everyone I know noticed the same thing. Appeared to be a low explosive... perhaps gunpowder pipe-bomb type thing. Smaller in nature.

Authorities have said that it was likely a crude,  small home made bomb, and that no C4 showed up in the ballistics testing.     It also detonated during one of the slowest times of the race.    There were much larger crowds just a few hours earlier.   Thankfully,  whoever did this was pretty amateurish in ballistics and planning.


Regarding the timing, someone in another thread pointed out that finishing times were atypically slower last year because of the unusual heat, and that it's possible someone planned this based on that.

Agree on the device construction though, something with more power could have left a much higher body count.

My wife worked at Marathon Sports near the finish line for a while, knew a lot of runners, and has volunteered in the past in the medical tent.  She was a wreck yesterday.

Oddly, though, her resolve to qualify seemed, if anything, to increase yesterday.  She's more motivated now and even told me she hopes they don't change the finish.
 
2013-04-16 07:55:07 AM  
it was mentioned on WBUR a few times this morning that police had raided a house in Revere and were seen leaving with "bags".
 
2013-04-16 07:55:40 AM  

Mose: If it is someone/group sophisticated enough to put that much forethought and planning into it, would they have been so amateurish as to make 3 out of 5 devices duds?  Doesn't fit, IMHO.


They werent duds... the authorities followed the "Terror attack in MY city?" handbook, and shut off cell phone service right away.  The bombs were most likely triggered by cell phone.
 
2013-04-16 07:56:24 AM  
Looks like the domestic variety.
 
2013-04-16 07:56:53 AM  
I mentioned in the last thread that my cousin and her fiance were spectators but weren't near the explosions. I haven't heard from her directly, just from my uncle that they checked in okay. She's a pharmacist in the ICU at Beth Israel if I'm not mistaken. No doubt she was called in right away. Too close for comfort for my family. I could barely look at the pictures, I can't imagine dealing with it first hand in the ICU. Thoughts go out to the victims and their families.
 
MFK
2013-04-16 07:57:10 AM  
MmmmBacon:

The reason I think they will blame this on a lone bomber is simple: There are a lot of people angry with the Government right now regarding potential gun control laws, and it would play well in the media to pin it some pro-gun "nutjob", especially if the FBI can't find the culprits. Not to go all Alex Jones on this, but I could see this being used much the same way 9/11 was exploited by the Bush Administration to try to justify the war on Iraq, especially if no group takes responsibility.

Your post is bad and you should feel bad for posting it.
 
2013-04-16 07:57:32 AM  

what_now: *yawn* good morning.

Any new information or the same jibber jabber i foolishly spent 7 hours listening to last night?

Also, how long will my commute take this morning?


You should be fine unless you have to go right near there or have to ride the T. They'll be checking bags.
 
2013-04-16 07:58:11 AM  

Ed Grubermann: phrawgh: Odds are it was one of the 'Big Three' Mediterranean Death Cults. But which one... which one...

I'm going with the Thuggee.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-16 07:58:49 AM  

InmanRoshi: Authorities have said that it was likely a crude, small home made bomb, and that no C4 showed up in the ballistics testing. It also detonated during one of the slowest times of the race. There were much larger crowds just a few hours earlier. Thankfully, whoever did this was pretty amateurish in ballistics and planning.


It was the high point of the race in 2012
 
2013-04-16 07:59:08 AM  

Into the blue again: You need new friends.


Nah some people just have certain subjects where they are completely irrational. You just have to learn how to dodge that kind of bullshiat or else you'll never be friends with anyone.
/It's the very reason I avoid politics with people I know irl but I'll argue with a person all night in the politics tab.
 
2013-04-16 07:59:15 AM  
Alonjar

They werent duds... the authorities followed the "Terror attack in MY city?" handbook, and shut off cell phone service right away. The bombs were most likely triggered by cell phone.

Incorrect. Interviews with Verizon and Sprint show that at no time was any service shut down. After the attact the network was overloaded with traffic, so that very well could have prevented a 3rd or 4th explosion if they were cell phone detonated.

They havent released details about the bombs yet, so that is unknown.

Police/Feds also denied they asked for any service to be shut down.
 
2013-04-16 08:00:21 AM  
Mose:

My wife worked at Marathon Sports near the finish line for a while, knew a lot of runners, and has volunteered in the past in the medical tent.  She was a wreck yesterday.

Oddly, though, her resolve to qualify seemed, if anything, to increase yesterday.  She's more motivated now and even told me she hopes they don't change the finish.


One of my friends is a doctor in the medical tent. I don't even know how to finish this post.... He helped a lot of people. Can't wait to see him now...
 
2013-04-16 08:00:31 AM  

doublesecretprobation: it was mentioned on WBUR a few times this morning that police had raided a house in Revere and were seen leaving with "bags".


Leaving with bags does not really mean all that much.  Any time you do a search, you are going to get, at the very least, documents that would support who lives there, etc...  All evidence goes in "bags".  So, bags don't really mean all that much.  Let me know when they evacuate the neighborhood.
 
2013-04-16 08:00:36 AM  

Alonjar: Mose: If it is someone/group sophisticated enough to put that much forethought and planning into it, would they have been so amateurish as to make 3 out of 5 devices duds?  Doesn't fit, IMHO.

They werent duds... the authorities followed the "Terror attack in MY city?" handbook, and shut off cell phone service right away.  The bombs were most likely triggered by cell phone.


Alright, they may have been duds then.  But I don't think we know for sure, do we?  Also, if this were a smarter group planning something bigger, isn't that (shut down of cell service) something they would've seen coming?  Why wouldn't they have triggered the other devices at the same time?  If they're using cell phones as triggers, it's not as if they wouldn't have a reliable clock handy.
 
2013-04-16 08:00:39 AM  

doublesecretprobation: it was mentioned on WBUR a few times this morning that police had raided a house in Revere and were seen leaving with "bags".


False bag operation

/hardy har har
 
2013-04-16 08:01:39 AM  

A Terrible Human: Into the blue again: You need new friends.

Nah some people just have certain subjects where they are completely irrational. You just have to learn how to dodge that kind of bullshiat or else you'll never be friends with anyone.
/It's the very reason I avoid politics with people I know irl but I'll argue with a person all night in the politics tab.


lol, sounds like me. My mother is a frequent visitor of world nut daily and the like. I change the subject every time she tries to mention polotics.
 
2013-04-16 08:01:50 AM  
Since we don't know who is responsible at this point I say we stop blaming particular cultures and instead blame cultural influences.  That is way I say we should be blaming this on either Rap or Heavy Metal music.

I know is not fair to those who may listen to either (or both) but I just think the arguments will be more entertaining.
 
2013-04-16 08:01:59 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Looks like a scene out of Iraq or Israel. I won't speculate on who is responsible, though one has to admit, if you are honest, that Islamic extremists comes to mind. Due to their love of killing innocent people for retarded reasons. But whatever, i just want the people found and hung. My heart and thoughts go out to all the victims.


You know who else comes to mind (if you are a speculating idiot) The Brits.  On Patriot day, in Boston, home of the original Tea Party.  Just farking stop!  Until you know, you don't know, ya know.
 
2013-04-16 08:02:11 AM  

Here's what Patton Oswald said.

Boston. farking horrible.
I remember, when 9/11 went down, my reaction was, "Well, I've had it with humanity."

But I was wrong. I don't know what's going to be revealed to be behind all of this mayhem. One human insect or a poisonous mass of broken sociopaths.
But here's what I DO know. If it's one person or a HUNDRED people, that number is not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population on this planet. You watch the videos of the carnage and there are people running TOWARDS the destruction to help out. (Thanks FAKE Gallery founder and owner Paul Kozlowski for pointing this out to me). This is a giant planet and we're lucky to live on it but there are prices and penalties incurred for the daily miracle of existence. One of them is, every once in awhile, the wiring of a tiny sliver of the species gets snarled and they're pointed towards darkness.
But the vast majority stands against that darkness and, like white blood cells attacking a virus, they dilute and weaken and eventually wash away the evil doers and, more importantly, the damage they wreak. This is beyond religion or creed or nation. We would not be here if humanity were inherently evil. We'd have eaten ourselves alive long ago.
So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, "The good outnumber you, and we always will."
 
2013-04-16 08:02:21 AM  

ginandbacon: Looks like the domestic variety.


c.o0bg.com
Yep. Sam Adams.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-16 08:02:59 AM  

luxup: Since we don't know who is responsible at this point I say we stop blaming particular cultures and instead blame cultural influences.  That is way I say we should be blaming this on either Rap or Heavy Metal music.

I know is not fair to those who may listen to either (or both) but I just think the arguments will be more entertaining.


Has anyone blamed Rockstar Games yet?  I say we blame Rockstar Games.

Aren't there bombs in "State of Emergency?"  Close enough.
 
2013-04-16 08:03:07 AM  

Alonjar: Farce-Side: So, I scanned through this thread looking for a certain phrase, and thankfully I didn't see it.  I swear to God, I've heard the words "false flag" more in the past 24 hours than I have in my entire lifetime.  Speculative bullshiat is bullshiat.  Let's do this one right and find the person or people responsible, try them based on evidence, and then beat the living shiat out of them.

I'm getting so tired of hearing people complain about people saying "false flag" over the last 24 hours.  No, we dont ever want to encourage critical thought, or question the motives and actions of our government.  Nobody would ever use a false flag attack as a precursor to war... except for all those pesky times governments have.

I'm betting on domestic nutjob with a grudge against taxes personally, but to simply wave off any possibility of people in our government doing evil things seems... illogical to me.


Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the government isn't a bunch of lying scumbags, because they are, but this doesn't seem plausible as that kind of scenario.  More likely scenario is the one you describe, the one with some disgruntled nut job or group of nut jobs carrying this out on  their own.  We do want to encourage critical thought, which is why we should discourage complete and utter idiocy.

/Thanks alot, OBAMA!!!!
 
2013-04-16 08:03:36 AM  

digistil: The Westboro Baptist Church has identified the perp: Jesus.

http://www.ibtimes.com/westboro-baptist-church-hails-boston-marathon -e xplosion-plans-picket-funerals-1194185


...And the sharks begin to circle to take advantage of tragedy to push their own sh*t...

They aren't the first, but damned if they aren't the slimiest and most repugnant...
 
2013-04-16 08:05:18 AM  

Alonjar: Mose: If it is someone/group sophisticated enough to put that much forethought and planning into it, would they have been so amateurish as to make 3 out of 5 devices duds?  Doesn't fit, IMHO.

They werent duds... the authorities followed the "Terror attack in MY city?" handbook, and shut off cell phone service right away.  The bombs were most likely triggered by cell phone.


Pretty sure if they were cellphone activated they would have had plenty of time to detonate  them before the authorities had time to go through  the process of shutting down all cellphone service to the area.
 
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