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2013-04-16 07:01:10 AM  
RatMaster999:
I plan on keeping an eye out for anyone who looks to be of Middle Eastern, Indian, or other, similar descent. I can at least try to be there to help them if some angry, ignorant folk decide to get uppity.

Wow... that is so the right way to end that statement.

Novart:
Picketing funerals purely for the sake of harassment seems to be....harassment

I suspect harassment laws apply to repeated acts against the same person(s).  WBC'shiat and run act would neatly avoid that, as I'm sure they well know.
 
2013-04-16 07:01:56 AM  
Fox now saying the Saudi student is in custody according to police, and the apartment that was raided was his. Supposedly the police removed a bunch of bags from it.

/Right wing nuts like McVeigh tend to attack government
 
2013-04-16 07:02:22 AM  

Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: I apologize if it has already been covered, but did the authorities check for radiation or biological agents? I doubt there are any, but you never know.


I bet that's standard operating procedure for bomb squads.
 
2013-04-16 07:02:30 AM  

schief2: Bontesla: On a purely speculative note: it's doubtful that whatever explosives were planted were planted prior to the race. Security had previously passed over the area with bomb sniffing dogs (if the accounts were correct).

Perhaps the opportunity didn't present itself until the 4th wave of runners approached. We're talking about two explosive devices that went off. A third (and possibly a 4th,an 5th?) never exploded.

I've been thinking about that too. Perhaps the bomber(s) knew or got lucky that security was starting to let their guard down. After all, by that point they'd probably been at it for 6/7/8 hours and were probably thinking in their minds 'who the fark sets off a bomb 3/4ths of the way through a marathon anyway?'


There was also speculation that around that time was the peak finish time for runners last year, which would be understandable given last year's heat. The times in last year's race were a lot slower because of that. The conditions yesterday in Boston were pretty much perfect for the Marathon - sunny and in the 40s/50s. Last year it was in the 70s and 80s during the race, and you didn't hear very many stories of runners breaking their PRs. So if the bomber(s) were going off of last year results, that would be why they went off after 3/4 of the runners had finished.
 
2013-04-16 07:04:31 AM  

robohobo: Guy looks amazingly calm...NSFW


When I was 14 I was in a car accident. I had to climb over the front seat to exit the family station wagon.  Only after I was standing outside the car did I notice that my left knee was gashed open.

I was calm throughout the whole incident.
 
2013-04-16 07:04:37 AM  

muck4doo: Fox now saying the Saudi student is in custody according to police, and the apartment that was raided was his. Supposedly the police removed a bunch of bags from it.

/Right wing nuts like McVeigh tend to attack government


I'd suspect that the apartment did belong to the student and items were removed from it by police as part of their investigation.

I've heard that the student was cleared. I guess we'll see.
 
2013-04-16 07:05:22 AM  

Without Fail: Why did we invade Iraq again?
Was the reason for that unretarded?


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Touche, salesman.  Touche.
 
2013-04-16 07:05:22 AM  

Alonjar: Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: I apologize if it has already been covered, but did the authorities check for radiation or biological agents? I doubt there are any, but you never know.

Probably.  After 9/11 all major cities adopted strict protocols for dealing with terror attacks and mass casualty situations.  I actually thought the response to this was amazing, they did everything they were supposed to do right away and probably saved the lives of most of those people with severe injuries.  The fact the death count is so low is due more to a great response than a lack of severe wounds.


If there is a single bright spot in all of this, it's the response. I was amazed the death toll was so low. But there were so many lives changed yesterday. I hope we can muster our collective humanity to help the survivors as well as the families of the deceased.
 
2013-04-16 07:05:30 AM  

Pick: Obama vows to track down terrorists, just like he did in Benghazi. Rest well, America.


Obama vows to track down terrorists, just like he did Bin Laden.

I'm pretty sure we won't attack the wrong country over this.
 
2013-04-16 07:05:54 AM  
So...do we know who to invade and liberate yet?
 
2013-04-16 07:06:34 AM  

Old enough to know better: digistil: The Westboro Baptist Church has identified the perp: Jesus.

http://www.ibtimes.com/westboro-baptist-church-hails-boston-marathon -e xplosion-plans-picket-funerals-1194185

Why these bastards haven't had their "church" firebombed by now continues to puzzle me.


They are not worth the effort.
 
2013-04-16 07:08:33 AM  

theotherles: Old enough to know better: digistil: The Westboro Baptist Church has identified the perp: Jesus.

http://www.ibtimes.com/westboro-baptist-church-hails-boston-marathon -e xplosion-plans-picket-funerals-1194185

Why these bastards haven't had their "church" firebombed by now continues to puzzle me.

They are not worth the effort.


I agree. The rainbow house across the street is a far better method of protest of this disgusting "church" than resorting to the violence they would like to invite.
 
2013-04-16 07:11:14 AM  

OrangeSnapper: Perhaps it wasn't as heavy at Boston because of the qualifying rules, but there were still plenty of runners out there.


From experience it is a very heavy time. The elite runners start earlier, and then the rest go in waves. There are a lot of people who run for charities for whom qualifying times are waived. And then there are the bandits who just start running at the tail end after all the official runners have started (but they are usually unofficially counted in with that 27k). Additionally, there were more runners than usual this year because last year it was in the high 80s F at the start and they allowed racers to opt out and defer to this year's race.

The area the bomb went off is typically where I would meet my parents when finishing. My phone (as well as theirs) was ringing off the hook yesterday with people asking if we were running this year.
 
2013-04-16 07:12:07 AM  

Old enough to know better: digistil: The Westboro Baptist Church has identified the perp: Jesus.

http://www.ibtimes.com/westboro-baptist-church-hails-boston-marathon -e xplosion-plans-picket-funerals-1194185

Why these bastards haven't had their "church" firebombed by now continues to puzzle me.


For the same reason trolls are tolerated on internet forums. They do the most damage by not crossing a line that would get them banned/slaughtered.

It would be nice if the internets embrace civility like it has embraced grammar. Because until we see that trolling, in and of itself, is an undesirable behavior we are always going to have a WBC in RL to contend with.
 
2013-04-16 07:14:00 AM  
Does anyone else find this eerily similar to 'cowboy terrorist' family guy episode?
 
2013-04-16 07:15:50 AM  

muck4doo: Fox now saying the Saudi student is in custody according to police, and the apartment that was raided was his. Supposedly the police removed a bunch of bags from it.

/Right wing nuts like McVeigh tend to attack government


You mean the Saudi student who was tackled by a random idiot (because he was running away from an explosion, like everyone else who could, and totally not because he looked Muslim-y), cooperated fully with investigators and was cleared as a suspect?

And right wing nuts have attacked large sporting events before. Eric Rudolph ring a bell?
 
2013-04-16 07:15:52 AM  

wickedragon: April 16th is the day of the Virgina Tech massacre, could be linked to that in some twisted way.
Could be the first chinese terrorist attack, somehow linked to the Tienamen Square protests in '89.
Honestly, I'm guessing whichever nutbag did this had a nutbag reason for doing so. I'm trying to see how someone could be so pissed off at paying their taxes that they start blowing up innocent people and I'm drawing a complete blank.
Just mindless, ruthless bloodshed. My heart cries.


April 15 was also the start of the Arab revolt in Palestine. Might be related, might not be.
 
2013-04-16 07:16:48 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: So...do we know who to invade and liberate yet?



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I keed. Hopefully the f*cker(s) will be caught and dealt with in short time. We definitely don't need to respond to this with the godawful fear-mongering that occurred after 9/11.
 
2013-04-16 07:18:54 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: So...do we know who to invade and liberate yet?


South Korea. Get all the hot chicks out, just in case Kim Bing Bang launches his 1834 nuke.
 
2013-04-16 07:20:21 AM  
It's human nature to speculate on who might be responsible. Just about the only reason to do it anonymously on the Internet is to troll one side of the political spectrum or the other, though.
 
2013-04-16 07:21:28 AM  

No Such Agency: WBC'shiat and run act


Heh. Indeed...
 
2013-04-16 07:22:00 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: So...do we know who to invade and liberate yet?


Wrong president, buddy.
 
2013-04-16 07:23:33 AM  

robohobo: Is there once image any of you guys won't ever get out of your head? I'm thinking back to September 11. There was a guy, covered in ash, glasses(i think), stumbling down the street. He blew a huge black snot rocket. For some reason, it stood out for me, and I'll remember him forever.


Same for me.
 
2013-04-16 07:23:40 AM  

ComicBookGuy: So....the guy with the legs blown off...is he alive?


He seems very lucid on all the pictures. I'm going with yes.
 
2013-04-16 07:24:52 AM  
So is this the fark narrative:

 If it's a "tea party member /lone wolf white guy ' then everyone associated with lower taxes or white skin is guilty by association.

If it's a "muslim extremist " we must remember that it was act of a lone individual and not reflective of a system of beliefs or stated positions of  certain Islamic organizations.

Okay I got it.
 
2013-04-16 07:25:26 AM  

cc_rider: We definitely don't need to respond to this with the godawful fear-mongering that occurred after 9/11.


Yeah, good luck with that. On GMA just now: "Up next, how the country will change in the wake of the TERROR AT THE BOSTON MARATHON!" Not even 24 hours, dude.

I guess we should be thankful they're not going with the obvious "Boston Masacre Pt 2."
 
2013-04-16 07:26:00 AM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: So is this the fark narrative:

 If it's a "tea party member /lone wolf white guy ' then everyone associated with lower taxes or white skin is guilty by association.

If it's a "muslim extremist " we must remember that it was act of a lone individual and not reflective of a system of beliefs or stated positions of  certain Islamic organizations.

Okay I got it.


That's completely inaccurate.
 
2013-04-16 07:26:06 AM  
Just imagine: Nobody had to get through airport security to do this.
 
2013-04-16 07:26:12 AM  
Debeo Summa Credo:

It was also the day of the big marathon in Boston, when alot of potential victims would be gathered in a public place.


You beat me to it.
 
2013-04-16 07:26:36 AM  

crumblecat: Trying to be objective here, which is not easy as this is horrifying.

The first thing that grabs my attention is the bangs were more of a soft "whump" then the sharp crack of military explosives. That suggests something small and home mixed. And despite the carnage close to the explosions, it could have been a lot worse. A significant military charge would have blown the crowd barriers clean across the street and taken out most of the people on the road.

Anybody notice it's 20 years after Waco, almost to the day? My money is on home-grown.

But who knows. No one nation or religion has a monopoly on nut jobs.

My thoughts are with all who suffered.


Everyone I know noticed the same thing. Appeared to be a low explosive... perhaps gunpowder pipe-bomb type thing. Smaller in nature.
 
2013-04-16 07:29:46 AM  

digistil: Novart: digistil: Teabaggers on Twitter are outraged people suspect them without any evidence, while at the same time say Muslins are undoubtedly behind the bombing.

And people say conservatives don't have a sense of humor.

Name a terrorist attack committed by a member of the "tea party" (I can't say that name without putting it in quotations, they don't deserve it)

I wasn't accusing the Tea Party of being behind this, just commenting on the irony of them being upset someone would accuse an entire group of people and then do just that. All without solid evidence.


Since there isn't much in the way of official TEA Party membership, I'm sure "no true TEA Party member" would do such a thing.
 
2013-04-16 07:30:35 AM  

Alonjar: so... what new laws are we going to pass now? What rights and freedoms can we trade away to protect the 1 in 20,000,000 Americans who are killed in terror attacks?

Or is it just the media who is going to cost us tens of millions in lost productivity?


NYC annexes Boston as the sixth borough.
 
2013-04-16 07:30:45 AM  

robohobo: Guy looks amazingly calm...NSFW


It's called shock; he looks very pale and is probably close to shutting down from pain and blood loss.

I'm thinking this was the work of domestic terrorists; the kind of bombs used (small, crude, designed to inflict maximum casualties, aimed at personnel instead of buildings), the fact over half of them didn't go off, and the use of non-military explosives (something that could be made at home if necessary), all points to a home grown bomber(s). Eric Rudolph, Kazinski and McVeigh all made their own bombs, after all. Foreign terrorists tend to use larger bombs as well (the WTC bombing comes to mind).
 
2013-04-16 07:30:48 AM  

Bontesla: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: So is this the fark narrative:

 If it's a "tea party member /lone wolf white guy ' then everyone associated with lower taxes or white skin is guilty by association.

If it's a "muslim extremist " we must remember that it was act of a lone individual and not reflective of a system of beliefs or stated positions of  certain Islamic organizations.

Okay I got it.

That's completely inaccurate.


Not at all.  Being close minded as a Conservative is close minded.  Being close minded as a liberal is enlightened.
 
2013-04-16 07:31:06 AM  
April appears to be a month of disasters and tragedies.
 
2013-04-16 07:32:11 AM  
What if it's the Syrian rebels, the Jihad faction?  Be interesting to see the US asking the Syrians permission to bomb the hell out of the rebels.  I'm going to assume Assad would be more than happy for the US to join the war.
 
2013-04-16 07:32:47 AM  
/tin foil hat mode enabled

I hate to say this, but it could have been a test run... to see our response times, how we react, etc before unleashing the real attack.

/tin foil hat mode disabled
 
2013-04-16 07:34:23 AM  

LL316: Bontesla: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: So is this the fark narrative:

 If it's a "tea party member /lone wolf white guy ' then everyone associated with lower taxes or white skin is guilty by association.

If it's a "muslim extremist " we must remember that it was act of a lone individual and not reflective of a system of beliefs or stated positions of  certain Islamic organizations.

Okay I got it.

That's completely inaccurate.

Not at all.  Being close minded as a Conservative is close minded.  Being close minded as a liberal is enlightened.


Do you find it particularly exhausting to be you?

The terrorist didn't do this because he was right or left. He did it because he was an asshole.
 
2013-04-16 07:34:38 AM  
So, I scanned through this thread looking for a certain phrase, and thankfully I didn't see it.  I swear to God, I've heard the words "false flag" more in the past 24 hours than I have in my entire lifetime.  Speculative bullshiat is bullshiat.  Let's do this one right and find the person or people responsible, try them based on evidence, and then beat the living shiat out of them.
 
2013-04-16 07:35:40 AM  

phrawgh: Odds are it was one of the 'Big Three' Mediterranean Death Cults. But which one... which one...


I can't really see the cults of Isis or Mithrias doing this but I wouldn't rule the followers of Demeter out.

/what wrong millennium?
 
2013-04-16 07:36:02 AM  
This to all the folks blasting the "jackass" who tackled the "person of interest" --

You do see the inherit irony (or hypocrisy) in criticizing a guy for doing what he thought was right, when you are completely ignorant of the facts surrounding his actions, while simultaneously criticizing those who jump to judgment before all the facts are in, right?  Whatever this guy saw that made him suspicious might have been enough to make a reasonable man act in the same way.  You guys racing to assume there was nothing to motivate him other than racism is, really, the exact same pinheadedness that you're accusing him of.

/Just sayin'.
 
2013-04-16 07:36:49 AM  
Spring fever strikes again.
 
2013-04-16 07:39:02 AM  

Farce-Side: So, I scanned through this thread looking for a certain phrase, and thankfully I didn't see it.  I swear to God, I've heard the words "false flag" more in the past 24 hours than I have in my entire lifetime.  Speculative bullshiat is bullshiat.  Let's do this one right and find the person or people responsible, try them based on evidence, and then beat the living shiat out of them.


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/Sorry about that but I had this urge.
//Better than partisan bastards waving their limp,tiny dicks at each other.
 
2013-04-16 07:39:40 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: /tin foil hat mode enabled

I hate to say this, but it could have been a test run... to see our response times, how we react, etc before unleashing the real attack.

/tin foil hat mode disabled


If that's the case then we're probably talking about a group and not all lone wolf. Remotely detonated devices (to avoid injury). Interesting theory.
 
2013-04-16 07:39:45 AM  

Bontesla: LL316: Bontesla: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: So is this the fark narrative:

 If it's a "tea party member /lone wolf white guy ' then everyone associated with lower taxes or white skin is guilty by association.

If it's a "muslim extremist " we must remember that it was act of a lone individual and not reflective of a system of beliefs or stated positions of  certain Islamic organizations.

Okay I got it.

That's completely inaccurate.

Not at all.  Being close minded as a Conservative is close minded.  Being close minded as a liberal is enlightened.

Do you find it particularly exhausting to be you?

The terrorist didn't do this because he was right or left. He did it because he was an asshole.


Don't know that you should waste your breathe/keystrokes.  Can't reason with unreasonable people.  Some people see the world through partisan-colored glasses, others have the color injected right into their corneas.
 
2013-04-16 07:40:53 AM  
*yawn* good morning.

Any new information or the same jibber jabber i foolishly spent 7 hours listening to last night?

Also, how long will my commute take this morning?
 
2013-04-16 07:41:17 AM  

namegoeshere: I guess we should be thankful they're not going with the obvious "Boston Masacre Pt 2."


Too late, CNN is already calling this the Boston Massacre.  I guess people forget that even though it's been ~250 years, the Boston Massacre was actually a thing.
 
2013-04-16 07:41:55 AM  

Bontesla: HindiDiscoMonster: /tin foil hat mode enabled

I hate to say this, but it could have been a test run... to see our response times, how we react, etc before unleashing the real attack.

/tin foil hat mode disabled

If that's the case then we're probably talking about a group and not all lone wolf. Remotely detonated devices (to avoid injury). Interesting theory.


If it is someone/group sophisticated enough to put that much forethought and planning into it, would they have been so amateurish as to make 3 out of 5 devices duds?  Doesn't fit, IMHO.
 
2013-04-16 07:42:14 AM  

Mose: Bontesla: LL316: Bontesla: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: So is this the fark narrative:

 If it's a "tea party member /lone wolf white guy ' then everyone associated with lower taxes or white skin is guilty by association.

If it's a "muslim extremist " we must remember that it was act of a lone individual and not reflective of a system of beliefs or stated positions of  certain Islamic organizations.

Okay I got it.

That's completely inaccurate.

Not at all.  Being close minded as a Conservative is close minded.  Being close minded as a liberal is enlightened.

Do you find it particularly exhausting to be you?

The terrorist didn't do this because he was right or left. He did it because he was an asshole.

Don't know that you should waste your breathe/keystrokes.  Can't reason with unreasonable people.  Some people see the world through partisan-colored glasses, others have the color injected right into their corneas.


You're absolutely right.

Thank you.
 
2013-04-16 07:42:26 AM  

Farce-Side: So, I scanned through this thread looking for a certain phrase, and thankfully I didn't see it.  I swear to God, I've heard the words "false flag" more in the past 24 hours than I have in my entire lifetime.  Speculative bullshiat is bullshiat.  Let's do this one right and find the person or people responsible, try them based on evidence, and then beat the living shiat out of them.


Seriously. I have a buddy who was calling 'false flag' before he even knew anything other than the fact that there was an explosion. I try to point out that in a false flag operation you would have someone set up to take the blame, but in this case officials aren't yet pointing any fingers. He seems impervious to logic. He just knows this has something to do with the government trying to take his freedom.
 
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