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2013-04-15 10:13:38 PM  
17 votes:
Today's events have both saddened and angered me, sentiments I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling. Then coming into these threads and seeing countless Farkers stumble over one another to place the blame on whichever group suits their particular agenda and personal viewpoint angered me further. I was honestly disgusted with humanity. Then, I stopped and realized that this is probably the symptom of living in an age where we have instantaneous access to horrible events yet, stuck behind our keyboards, there's simply nothing we can do about them. We can't help those afflicted, we can't lend a helping hand, we can't search for those responsible. In that void maybe we search for something, anything, to do. And maybe assigning blame seems the path of least resistance.

Looking at the scenes of carnage from the race my first thoughts were "what sort of monster would do this?" and if I let myself go down that path it's easy to start to believe that the world is going to hell and that we've completely lost our humanity. But when you look past the images of maimed people you see countless others who rushed to the scene, disregarding their own safety, to help in any way possible. For every one monster out there, there are least 1000 people willing to stop and help, to lend a hand or a shoulder. For every political douchebag interested in scoring points in some twisted blame game, there are a thousand people who want nothing more than peace for those injured and justice brought to those responsible.

So, I'm going to make a donation to the red cross (I'm too light to donate blood), I'm going to help my elderly neighbour trim her hedges tomorrow evening and I'm going to hug my friends and offer them my time should they need it. I can't help the people of Boston, but I can make my tiny corner of the world a better place, and collectively that beats any monster with a bomb full of shrapnel every time. At least, in my opinion it does.

/sorry for rant
//yeah, lighten up francis
2013-04-15 04:24:14 PM  
15 votes:
Also folks - be aware that at this stage in the news cycle pretty much no one knows anything, and 90% of everything's gonna be issued a correction later by MSM.  That said it still helps to know what's going on now
2013-04-15 09:25:19 PM  
13 votes:

Krustofsky: WizardofToast: farkingismybusiness: Here is another angle of the Picture #8 guy. NSFW GORE The Cowboy is squeezing his artery.

"The man in the cowboy hat is Carlos Arredondo. He is an immigrant citizen of the U.S. who lost his son in Iraq and is now a peace activist and speaker. When the explosions happened, you can see that he did not hesitate to run towards the chaos and help, obviously trying to get this poor man out of there and to hold a tourniquet on one of his severed legs. Later, he was being interviewed, visibly shaking from shock and holding an American flag, soaked in the blood of other people. Carlos Arredondo's selflessness and bravery should be known and applauded."

Carlos Arredondo
Carlos Arredondo
Carlos Arredondo


Let's try and remember Carlos Arredondo's  name instead of whatever shiatbucket(s) did this.
2013-04-15 07:59:32 PM  
10 votes:

Bunny Deville: Well, I guess my faith in humanity is somewhat restored, seeing that a good half of you are tired of people laying the blame for this on the group of their choice.

I blame assholism, personally, no matter who did it.


I posted one of these in the other thread. Another wont hurt I suppose.


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2013-04-15 10:00:42 PM  
6 votes:

aedude01: theknuckler_33: Vacation Bible School: T.rex: That #8 pic... the dude in the cowboy hat is holding the guy's femoral artery, keeping him from bleeding out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWHHWB3Jr60

Quick street interview with cowboy hat guy.

farkin' A man, that dude is trembling.

/powerful stuff

FTFA (Comments section):
For anyone not aware, this man is Carlos Arredondo, you can look him up on wikipedia. One of his sons, Marine Lance Corporal Alexander Arrendondo, was killed serving in Iraq in 2004. His only surviving son, Brian Arredondo, took his life in 2011. The two pins you see on his sweater are pictures of his sons.
And not only did he have to bear witness to yet another tragedy, but he saved a man's life. He is an amazingly brave man.

Jesus Christ.


God damn it.

At the very least, that man should not ever have to buy a beer again for the rest of his life.  If one were to see that man on the street, the immediate knee-jerk reaction should be to buy him lunch or a pint.
2013-04-15 09:34:36 PM  
6 votes:
Personally, the information we've got so far leads me to the opinion that this was probably a domestic nutter.  The lack of organization (judging by the severe, but fairly small-scale results) and the rudimentary, kludged tech level of the bombs speak to one person acting alone.  That single actor, combined with the time and place chosen, say domestic rather than international, as the latter tend to have at least some manner of support structure.

That said, I do think this really was a lone individual.  I stress that in order to say that I believe this individual isn't representative of any group or political faction.  I'm as left-wing as they come, and I think this guy is most likely one of the True PatriotTM types, but that doesn't mean that his actions represent the people who share his ideology in any way, shape, or form.  We could probably have a discussion about cultures of fear, oppression, and anger in groups like that, and the effect mentalities like that have on people, but I do not, and I believe we should not, blame a group or faction for the actions of one lone nut.  To do so would be as fallacious as blaming all Christians, or even all evangelical Southern Baptists, for the actions of WBC.  Sharing an ideology is NOT the same as condoning actions, and we should all take care not to make that mistake, no matter how this plays out.

/climbs off soapbox
//drops mike
///gets ass beat by tech guy for dropping mike
2013-04-15 06:10:31 PM  
6 votes:

cfletch13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Apparently there's some terribly gruesome videos from bystanders popping up on Youtube....

Yikes.


Seriously? You thought a friggin' rickroll was a good idea here? Now? Are you stupid, or merely just an asshole?
2013-04-15 04:55:19 PM  
6 votes:
Ring leaders to be rounded up for this domestic terrorism by the TeaParty:
Limbaugh
Beck
Koch bros
Bachmann
And the rest.

/Its time to clean house and send them to Gitmo.
2013-04-15 11:32:59 PM  
5 votes:
You know what's really upsetting to me, other than the senseless violence today?

We live in what we have convinced ourselves is the greatest country in the world. I was raised to believe this. Even with our shortcomings, there's nowhere else I'd rather live. And sadly, what do we see, here at Fark, on FB, anywhere anyone can comment?

We see a bunch of he said/she said dick swinging, with people fighting and arguing and acting like spoiled children. It's selfish to make this about ourselves. We make it about ourselves when we throw out our completely uneducated, often ignorant opinions, making baseless accusations and fighting with each other.

This thread could be a catch-all for news and updates, which is really what I think the intention was. Instead, we have a bunch of internet tough guys looking foolish. Way to go, fellas. I'm ashamed of you.

/An 8 year old was one of the dead. I have kids. I don't know what I'd do if I lost one of my children.
//hugged my kids after work, gonna go hug them again as they're better behaved than some people in this thread
2013-04-15 10:17:56 PM  
5 votes:
24.media.tumblr.com
2013-04-15 09:59:14 PM  
5 votes:

pxsteel: So are we banning marathons or finish lines.


In my family, we are looking at your post and wondering WTF is wrong with a person like you. You know kids were killed and injured in Boston today don't you? Despite the fact this was an IED not a gun, you are going all 2nd amendment rights. In all seriousness, you are truly a sick human being and you should seek therapy.
2013-04-15 09:03:12 PM  
5 votes:
Here's my take on the likely bombing suspect(s):

FACTS:
Today is Tax Day.
Today is Patriot's Day.
2 bombs fashioned from low-grade (homemade??) explosives are set off in Boston.
Said bombs create a relatively low number of casualties due to the timing of their detonations, indicating a lack of planning or piss-poor planning.

My money is on a white RW male between the ages of 35 & 50, who drank the Tea Party Kool-Aid ("Taxed Enough Already!!!!!11!!!!ELEVENTY!!!") and decided that Boston would make a fine target due to:

1. Site of the Boston Tea Party (Symbolism)
2. Massachusetts (TAXACHUSETTS!!!!) is a blue state.
3. Boston is an exceedingly blue city. (LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS!!!!!!)
4. Marathons are typically won by Kenyans or (more recently) northern Africans from predominantly Muslim nations (Take THAT Fartbongo, you Muslim Kenyan Usurper!!)
5. It's Patriot's Day (and what could be more patriotic than rocket's red glare and bombs bursting alongside a marathon course?)
6. "The highest form of patriotic is descent" (And he decided to show his "descent" by blowing shiat up)
Crazy Bomb Guy would have preferred using a rifle, but going up on one of the rooftops with an AR-15 would likely have resulted in him getting his own ass shot and/or arrested, and there is NO WAY a "patriot" like Crazy Bomb Guy is gonna do time in a gubmint prison. (Typical RW lack of willingness to put his own skin in the game)
7. CBG (Crazy Bomb Guy) thought, "I got me all them survival manuals and how-to type books on making stuff go 'boom.' If'n I can't use me a gun, I might as well try making a bomb or two."

I could be wrong, but the crazy all lines up a little too neatly for this to have been done by anyone other than a poorly-educated white dude with a RW axe to grind who listened a little too closely to douchenozzles like Grover Norquist and Dick Armey, as well as nuts like Sharron "Second Amendment Solutions" Angle, not to mention the voices in his head that were screaming "Don't be a pussy - Be a HERO!!!".
2013-04-15 08:40:42 PM  
5 votes:

hardinparamedic: so you're insinuating a US soldier did this?

That's what you're saying here?


Wade Michael Page, Nidal Hasan, Jim David Adkisson, Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and Michael Fortier. Six names, right off the top of my head, and I know if I went to my bookshelf I could probably double or triple that list with less time and effort than it took me to write  thispost.  What do all six of those people have in common?
2013-04-15 07:55:33 PM  
5 votes:
So far, all my Boston peeps have checked in or been confirmed to be OK.

I'm going to go out on a limb here. I'm not going to pretend that I'm not angry about this. I'm not going to pretend to not want the folks responsible found, but I am going to suggest that maybe we dial back the rage, and not point fingers just yet, until the folks on the ground actually do their jobs. I know that speculation IS something we are all pretty good at, but at this point, things are spotty information-wise, and while there are professional fear mongers who are slathering at the chance to advance their ratings and their own agendas, it would be satisfying as f*ck if we DIDN'T give in to their game. Folks are looking to hop on this event, and ride it for all their worth, and advance as many crack pot theories and conspiracies, and spin human tragedy into their own brand of gold. Let's let folks do their jobs, find the scum responsible, and maybe NOT jump to conclusions until we get something confirmed. Domestic, Islamic, some other brand of terrorist, it is up in the air, and gesticulating wildly doesn't really do any good, nor pointing fingers and getting hett up at idiots who want to pump up "their" side, when the sad fact is, there aren't a lot of sides here. Just a lot of folks who got hurt, and they were our neighbors and friends, and maybe we should find out who did this, before screaming for them to get strung up, and volunteering folks for the gallows early.

Just a thought. Let's get the facts in first. Then maybe we can even bring them to trial, and see justice done. Of course, being Boston, the suspects may just have a serious trip and fall accident on the way to their cell block or even leaving the scene of their arrest, but let's at least give the police and the FBI a chance to identify folks before screaming that ONE side or ANOTHER was responsible.
Just a thought.
2013-04-15 05:47:47 PM  
5 votes:
fredklein:Of course. Let's just ignore all the unusual things that happened in Boston today... like the national guard being deployed along the route, the bomb sniffing dogs that were at the finish line, and so on, just because you don't like the person pointing them out. 'I don't like you, thus you are lying. Boot to the headface!'. I'm so glad we have open-minded people like you around....

Please. Tell me you're not stupid enough to jump to conclusions like that?

You sound stupid and paranoid at the moment, not "open minded" because you choose to champion a paranoid, offensive conspiracy theorist with a habit of making shiat up
2013-04-16 01:03:13 AM  
4 votes:
Void_Beavis:
Then why wasn't the trash can removed prior to the race? Again, this sort of thing isn't new.

So much of this leads me to believe proper security measures weren't carried out for this event. From several eyewitness accounts saying there was no dog presence to the lax security around removing trash cans...


 Because if they had removed the trash cans, there'd be farking trash everywhere.

 Look, dude, you're viewing this incident with the wisdom of hindsight. OF COURSE 'they' could have done this or that which might have prevented things. But the Boston Marathon isn't the only time or place where large groups congregate and could be the victims of shrapnel bombs. Youcan't lock down every aspect of human endeavor. If they took every security precaution you now wish they had taken, bombs would probably have gone off somewhere else instead.

 Your statement that they should have removed the trash cans for a marathon makes as much sense as the TSA confiscating nail clippers and water bottles. They are both vain attempts to identify security failures in hindsight and are frankly both overreactions.

 You feel that a bad thing happened, and you're out for blood, looking to blame someone. Blame whoever planted those farking bombs, because they're responsible. Not the poor saps who were tasked with trying to secure a 26 mile long perimeter playing host to thousands of people.

 There is no way to stop the sort of thing that happened today. Just this past year alone - the Aurora movie theater massacre; the Newton elementary school shootings. Are you going to call for the heads of the movie theater ushers and the one rent-a-cop on duty at the elementary school, too, for their gross security failures?

 The best you can do is strive to create a world in which people just don't want to do this sort of thing. It's not as easy and quick as 'removing trash cans' but I think you'll find that in the end, nothing else will farking work.
2013-04-15 11:18:16 PM  
4 votes:

Valacirca: mccallcl: My fellow Americans and I have a right to know everything about this immediately.

No we don't.  How are you so pissed about this?  There are very obvious reasons for not releasing information to the public early in an investigation, such as the possibility that what information you have is incorrect, or that releasing it could harm the investigation itself.  Hell, remember after Sandy Hook and the media started reporting that the guy's brother was the shooter and pasted his name and face all over the place?


Sure. Or the Atlanta Olympics bombing, where not only did they railroad a totally innocent man, but the public brouhaha helped ensure the guilty man (Eric Rudolph) got away for a few extra years because everyone was focused on the not-guilty security guard. Or Oklahoma City where everyone was so focused on the non-existent Middle Eastern terrorists they almost missed the very-existent Tim McVeigh cooling his heels in a nearby jail on a traffic warrant. Or the recent Martin/Zimmerman mess that may yet result in a mistrial before it ever gets off the ground.

You just don't need to know everything immediately; and knowing everything immediately could compromise things farther down the road. Unless that's what you want, and you'd rather know erroneous information now at the expense of justice later on.
2013-04-15 09:19:27 PM  
4 votes:

Vacation Bible School: T.rex: That #8 pic... the dude in the cowboy hat is holding the guy's femoral artery, keeping him from bleeding out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWHHWB3Jr60

Quick street interview with cowboy hat guy.


He's shaking.  Get that man a beer, a medal, and some psychotherapy.
2013-04-15 08:13:57 PM  
4 votes:
Not being American, I am not familiar with your holidays etc. but is it correct this occurred on Tax Day?

In a city once known for its 'patriots' who took a violent stand against taxation but is now a somewhat liberal bastion, to the point of holding a marathon commemorating an event that has been the biggest kick in the nuts to the pro-gun/FREEDOM population of America?

Given all that, but muslims?
2013-04-15 06:14:47 PM  
4 votes:

FormlessOne: cfletch13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Apparently there's some terribly gruesome videos from bystanders popping up on Youtube....

Yikes.

Seriously? You thought a friggin' rickroll was a good idea here? Now? Are you stupid, or merely just an asshole?


A rickroll is way classier than posting some disgusting video of a severely injured (or dead) human being.
2013-04-15 05:53:00 PM  
4 votes:

fredklein: Of course. Let's just ignore all the unusual things that happened in Boston today... like the national guard being deployed along the route, the bomb sniffing dogs that were at the finish line, and so on, just because you don't like the person pointing them out. 'I don't like you, thus you are lying. Boot to the headface!'. I'm so glad we have open-minded people like you around....


If the government was behind it, why would they deploy extra security? To stop themselves?

If the government wasn't behind it, but knew about it ahead of time, why wouldn't they tell everyone to be on alert? They've had no hesitation to do this with previous security scares. In fact, most conspiracy theorists would argue that the government goes out of its way to scare people over minor threats.

Or, maybe those are just common sights at big public events and you're a moron?
2013-04-15 05:09:28 PM  
4 votes:
If your Weeners to things like this is to consider how it can be used against your political enemies, you are a failure as a human being.
2013-04-15 05:05:36 PM  
4 votes:
Islamic or home-grown, it doesn't matter. SOMEONE is gonna get a visit from Mister P for this.

dronewarsuk.files.wordpress.com
2013-04-15 05:02:51 PM  
4 votes:
"WTC7 has collapsed", BBC reported with WTC7 standing in the background of the camera shot.

I believe nothing that is "reported" while there's still smoke in the air and bodies being removed.
2013-04-15 04:58:10 PM  
4 votes:
As someone who was near OKC during that bombing, take the reports of a Saudi national being in custody with a heaping dose of skepticism until confirmed.  Reports immediately after the OKC bombing talked about a car-ful of Middle Eastern types speeding away from the blast area.
2013-04-15 04:39:52 PM  
4 votes:
For those of you in Boston:

The Red Cross "safe and well" list. Please add yourselves, especially if phones look to be down for a while.

http://www.redcross.org/find-help/contact-family/register-safe-listi ng
2013-04-15 04:28:35 PM  
4 votes:
2013-04-16 12:21:02 AM  
3 votes:
Void_Beavis:

Agreed. I want to know exactly the motherfarker who did this, even if it takes years of tireless painstakingly hard detective work. And I want to know exactly the fat cocksucker who was asleep at the wheel where people were stacked 20 deep in a major metropolitan area during a major event at a highly visible area for that event not watching the area for unattended bags. That ducking area should have been crawling with plain clothes cops and bomb sniffing dogs. Who's the idiot in charge of securing this shiatstorm?

 Please do shut the fark up. It's people like you who call for the bullshiat security measures we've had to put up with since 9/11. People like you will guarantee another decade of wheelchair-bound grannies being groped at airports and 100-mile regions touching borders being constant 'no-freedom' zones.

 That area WAS crawling with cops and bomb-sniffing dogs. It didn't stop the tragedy, because frankly, you can't always stop the tragedies. You rarely hear about the ones they DO stop (and they do stop many).

 So please, kindly... just stuck your stupid farking mouth.
2013-04-16 12:05:30 AM  
3 votes:

TyrantII: It was about tariffs being rescinded on EITC imports without being able to protest through parliament or the crown. History matters, and the grade school understanding of the event is 100% incorrect. It wasn't about taxes, but about pro-protectionist colonists and Representative government.


It is probably also worth pointing out that Parliament had always claimed the right of representation of all colonial populations throughout the empire: the Colonists were asking for special provisions not granted to other Colonial British populations. And to this day colonial American populations likewise have no specific representation. Guam, Puerto Rico, American Samoa and the U.S. Virgin Islands have no specific voting representation. Hell, D.C. doesn't have it either. But they are bound by all laws that Congress passes.
2013-04-15 11:51:53 PM  
3 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Giltric: Guy was acting suspicious after the bombing and a group of people tackled him....supposedly this is the "saudi national" they were talking about earlier and he is cooperating with authorities

I've seen muslims shout allah ackbar when enemies have died and when compatriots have died. There are many reasons to say it, I wonder if this was the suspicious activity they are talking about, dude was sending an SOS to God and caught a beatdown.

He was running away from the explosion. Totally suspicious.


"Running while Saudi" - clearly, a reason for at least one clueless bigot to tackle him. Guy's cooperating with the cops, has denied any involvement, and cops haven't found a shred of evidence to link him to anything. The only "suspicious activity" was having some clueless bigot tackle him while claiming "suspicious activity" as justification.
2013-04-15 11:48:06 PM  
3 votes:

jack21221: Here's an article about Carlos Arredondo:

http://www.ibtimes.com/meet-carlos-arredondo-cowboy-hat-wearing-hero -b oston-marathon-bombing-1194089



Let this be the turning point in American culture.  Pretty please.

A turning point where instead of Kardashians being showered with money and fame, we bestow it upon people like this guy.  Pinching off a femoral artery to keep an amputated victim from losing any more blood?  How many people can look in the mirror and say they have the balls to do something like that?

I'm almost 100% certain I would have passed out from the sight of it alone.
2013-04-15 11:42:27 PM  
3 votes:
It's pretty stupid that people thought the bomber was one of the injured victims in the hospital. I'm sure the only person on the planet who knew those bombs were going to go off sure as fark wasn't standing next to one of them waiting for it to explode. McVeigh was blocks away from his truck bomb when it went off, and I'm sure this @sshole was too.
2013-04-15 11:11:03 PM  
3 votes:

Surool: So, after reading these threads... no one knows f*ck all about anything, and conservatives already have the "false flag operation" buzzword to claim they are being framed just in case the fact that Boston, home of the infamous Tea Party, was attacked on Tax Day (April 15) isn't some huge coincidence. How 'bout waiting to see who did it before you get defensive?


The Boston Teaparty was NEVER about taxes.

It was about tariffs being  rescinded on EITC imports without being able to protest through parliament or the crown.  History matters, and the grade school understanding of the event is 100% incorrect.  It wasn't about taxes, but about pro-protectionist colonists and Representative government.
2013-04-15 11:06:14 PM  
3 votes:
It was lost in the comments, so I'll post it again.

According to this source (link in spanish), former president of Mexico, Felipe Calderon (the one responsible for starting a direct military action against the drug cartels) was a spectator in the race. Maybe one of the Zetas (known for subtlety), wanted to kill him and cause enough mayhem to slip away.

If this were true, well, you guys wanted US troops in Mexico?.
2013-04-15 10:49:23 PM  
3 votes:
Godscrack: 24.media.tumblr.com

Yep.  Well put, Godscrack.   When everyone was running away from danger, Boston PD, FD, EMT and First Responders were running towards it...as were those civilians who tended to the injured until the professionals took over.   For every one sicko scumbag causing harm, there are several more proving all that's good in this world.  

Excellent picture.  I'm making it my wallpaper and screensaver.  Thanks Buddy
2013-04-15 10:40:32 PM  
3 votes:
24.media.tumblr.com
2013-04-15 10:07:43 PM  
3 votes:

Fiction Fan: kinda thought he "hit the deck" after the explosion, too You can see that the two girls on the sidelines, closer to the blast, with the yellow raincoats on are also started, but the aren't knocked off their feet. My husband, however, says look at the man's knees when he goes down, they look like they buckle. Like he was hit with shrapnel. But I think someone said earlier that the man was okay? Does anyone know?
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=====

78-year-old Bill Iffrig. He's okay.
He went down from a combination of the concussion of the blast and a small piece of shrapnel cut his leg.
He stated the officials you see in the picture helped him back up, assisted him in crossing the finish line, then found him a wheelchair to get help for his leg, which was mostly just scraped up.


He was just interviewed on ESPN (how is it that a sports network has the most reasonable coverage) and said that his legs just went 'all noodly' from the concussion and noise.  I have been reading but not posting until I came home from work and I am not going to keep posting now but I truly hope we can start letting go of hate.  We don't know who did this or why.  None of us, of any demographic - political, religious or any other, need more hate.  We need less.  Please let it go.
2013-04-15 09:52:14 PM  
3 votes:
"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering"

Come on Farkers, we need to chill out for a second and take a breath, everyone sounds like they are going to kill each other over every post
2013-04-15 09:23:23 PM  
3 votes:

WizardofToast: the lord god: DamnYankees: Wow, first question to Patrick is whether this is a false flag. What the hell.

WTF was that? Better question who is that douchebag?

It's believed to be a guy from InfoWars. You know...Alex Jones...government behind all things bad...IQ of a sandal...


He seems to be claiming some inside knowledge. I think that he needs to be questioned in detail, probably at Gitmo.
2013-04-15 09:14:19 PM  
3 votes:

Vacation Bible School: T.rex: That #8 pic... the dude in the cowboy hat is holding the guy's femoral artery, keeping him from bleeding out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWHHWB3Jr60

Quick street interview with cowboy hat guy.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Arredondo
2013-04-15 09:10:17 PM  
3 votes:
'False Flag!' is what people cry about when someone from their ideology commits a violent act or when said violent act somehow discredits their ideology. It's easier than thinking.

Dollars to donuts we're dealing with either 1) foreign Muslim nutball 2) domestic Muslim nutball 3) domestic Right-wing nutball or 4) domestic dress up like Garfield and claim obedience to the fish-people nutball.

Thoughts/prayers to those affected and their families.
2013-04-15 09:00:12 PM  
3 votes:

Mojongo: The use of ball bearings as shrapnel sounds similar to the Olympic Park Bomber, Eric Rudolph, who I believe used nails in his backpack bombing attempt to discredit the U.S. in the eyes of the world because of his opposition to abortion. Hopefully the perp/perps of this senseless act of violence will not take as long to catch.


...Unfortunately, this.  (If anything, what's come out about the bomb design and plans show it has a lot of the classic hallmarks of a bomb out of the Army of God terror manual--black powder pipe bomb in a backpack, shrapnel like nails or ball bearings, secondary bombs meant to take out emergency management personnel responding to the first bombing.)

Though I can't say for sure its the Army of God, because a lot of "fellow travellers" of the Army of God have adopted similar tactics, including at least one Christian Identity-linked bomber (whose bomb was fortunately found before they could detonate it...at an MLK Day parade).  The Army of God also does keep some connections with more explicitly tax-protester type "Christian Patriot" militias via the Constitution Party and has picked up at least some of its terminology from Christian Identity groups (the concept of "Phinehas Actions" being a euphemism for domestic terrorism against a targeted group, for one).

That said...I can't say what group this was, but (again, based on my own research on these groups--and this is something I do professionally) if this isn't from SOME far-right group with either a history of domestic terrorism or close connections with a group with a history of domestic terrorism, I'll eat my hat.  (Pretty much my guess is either Army of God (though usually they aren't so tax-protester-type, if it were Army of God it'd have to be a Boston-based cell basing this on Patriot Day...that said, the Army of God DOES have a history of precisely this sort of action aimed at international sports events in crowds, most notoriously the Olympic Park Bombing) or a previously undescribed "Christian Patriot" group either inspired by or actively taking tactics from the Army of God...could be "tax protester", but just as likely could be a particularly nasty bunch of Dominionists With Bombs thinking they'd lead a second American Revolution.)

I also think that--if my "spidey sense" is at all on with this...a lot of far-right extremists are about to have a No-Good, Very Bad Year.  And I think I'm with Grumpy Cat on this:

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2013-04-15 08:15:49 PM  
3 votes:

Amos Quito: Kibbler: If there had been an effective use of ball bearings as shrapnel, I'm pretty sure there would be more like 100+ dead by now.  It looks to me like these were crude, weak bombs made by morons.


FBI recruits?


Bomb experts are claiming that the observed explosions had the hallmarks of a high-power black powder device, and at least one explosion's plume looked like something a pipe bomb would produce.
2013-04-15 07:59:17 PM  
3 votes:

puffy999: netweavr: CNN is reporting ball bearings were used as shrapnel.

OH SH*T.

If that's the case, this was not an attempt at a "mere" bombing. They were trying to inflict maximum damage with a minimum footprint.


This. Ball bearings mean you were planning to murder people on a massive scale. It's not usually the work of some right winged paranoid idiot.

Put me in the "planned and  funded terror attack" camp, home grown or not.
2013-04-15 07:29:09 PM  
3 votes:
Bombs, on tax day, in the city known for our greatest anti tax protest...pretty clear message there.
2013-04-15 07:17:54 PM  
3 votes:

JungleBoogie: Clear video of the initial explosion, from Boston.com, via ZeroHedge


Watched the whole thing. For those of you afraid to watch this because it might show carnage... it just barely does NOT.

This got me all worked up emotionally. Not 15 seconds after the explosion you hear a cop yell THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE INJURED and everyone springs into action - police, national guard, and random persons working together to pull out the barriers so they can get to the 'ground zero' and help. Bunch of motherfarking heroes. It takes a special type of person to run toward the explosions.
2013-04-15 07:06:15 PM  
3 votes:
If you or anyone you know is trying to locate someone in Boston today, follow this link from Google:

http://google.org/personfinder/2013-boston-explosions

If you want to donate time, money, or blood, please go to http://redcross.org/

To find out how to help or ask for assistance, please follow #bostonhelp

 Trying to reach a loved one? Text, don't callThe Massachusetts Emergency Management agency tweeted the message earlier that if you're trying to reach friends and family and can't get through via phone, texting is your best option as it requires less bandwidth. The Boston mayor's hotline is also a land line option: 617-635-4500.

If you are 'Safe and Well,' please register to say so The Red Cross "Safe and Well" page exists to let concerned friends and family know you're OK. Sign in there if you are in the Boston area and someone might be worried about you. The Red Cross also urges you to update your social media pages, too.

http://www.disasterdistress.samhsa.gov/Disaster Distress Helpline Stress, anxiety, and other depression-like symptoms are common reactions after any natural or human-caused disaster.Call 1-800-985-5990. Free and confidential.

If you saw or know anything about the bombings, please call 1-800-494-TIPS.

The New York Post report about a Saudi national in custody has been refuted by the Boston Police as inaccurate.

No suspect is in currently in custody.http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/boston-police-no- arrests-h ave-been-made-in

/keep calm and carry on
//my thoughts are with you all
2013-04-15 06:44:00 PM  
3 votes:
Just to add to the list of people who should get some kudos for helping out, it sounds like people in the neighborhood were opening up their homes for extra injured people, or others needing shelter. Pretty ballsy when something this chaotic is going on. I think the people who immediately set out to donate blood should get some props, too.
2013-04-15 06:37:49 PM  
3 votes:
RFK: The Mindless Menace of Violence

This is a time of shame and sorrow. It is not a day for politics. I have saved this one opportunity, my only event of today, to speak briefly to you about the mindless menace of violence in America which again stains our land and every one of our lives.

It is not the concern of any one race. The victims of the violence are black and white, rich and poor, young and old, famous and unknown. They are, most important of all, human beings whom other human beings loved and needed. No one - no matter where he lives or what he does - can be certain who will suffer from some senseless act of bloodshed. And yet it goes on and on and on in this country of ours.

Why? What has violence ever accomplished? What has it ever created? No martyr's cause has ever been stilled by an assassin's bullet.

No wrongs have ever been righted by riots and civil disorders. A sniper is only a coward, not a hero; and an uncontrolled, uncontrollable mob is only the voice of madness, not the voice of reason.

Whenever any American's life is taken by another American unnecessarily - whether it is done in the name of the law or in the defiance of the law, by one man or a gang, in cold blood or in passion, in an attack of violence or in response to violence - whenever we tear at the fabric of the life which another man has painfully and clumsily woven for himself and his children, the whole nation is degraded.

"Among free men," said Abraham Lincoln, "there can be no successful appeal from the ballot to the bullet; and those who take such appeal are sure to lose their cause and pay the costs."

Yet we seemingly tolerate a rising level of violence that ignores our common humanity and our claims to civilization alike. We calmly accept newspaper reports of civilian slaughter in far-off lands. We glorify killing on movie and television screens and call it entertainment. We make it easy for men of all shades of sanity to acquire whatever weapons and ammunition they desire.

Too often we honor swagger and bluster and wielders of force; too often we excuse those who are willing to build their own lives on the shattered dreams of others. Some Americans who preach non-violence abroad fail to practice it here at home. Some who accuse others of inciting riots have by their own conduct invited them.

Some look for scapegoats, others look for conspiracies, but this much is clear: violence breeds violence, repression brings retaliation, and only a cleansing of our whole society can remove this sickness from our soul.

For there is another kind of violence, slower but just as deadly destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions; indifference and inaction and slow decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. This is the slow destruction of a child by hunger, and schools without books and homes without heat in the winter.

This is the breaking of a man's spirit by denying him the chance to stand as a father and as a man among other men. And this too afflicts us all.

I have not come here to propose a set of specific remedies nor is there a single set. For a broad and adequate outline we know what must be done. When you teach a man to hate and fear his brother, when you teach that he is a lesser man because of his color or his beliefs or the policies he pursues, when you teach that those who differ from you threaten your freedom or your job or your family, then you also learn to confront others not as fellow citizens but as enemies, to be met not with cooperation but with conquest; to be subjugated and mastered.

We learn, at the last, to look at our brothers as aliens, men with whom we share a city, but not a community; men bound to us in common dwelling, but not in common effort. We learn to share only a common fear, only a common desire to retreat from each other, only a common impulse to meet disagreement with force. For all this, there are no final answers.

Yet we know what we must do. It is to achieve true justice among our fellow citizens. The question is not what programs we should seek to enact. The question is whether we can find in our own midst and in our own hearts that leadership of humane purpose that will recognize the terrible truths of our existence.

We must admit the vanity of our false distinctions among men and learn to find our own advancement in the search for the advancement of others. We must admit in ourselves that our own children's future cannot be built on the misfortunes of others. We must recognize that this short life can neither be ennobled or enriched by hatred or revenge.

Our lives on this planet are too short and the work to be done too great to let this spirit flourish any longer in our land. Of course we cannot vanquish it with a program, nor with a resolution.

But we can perhaps remember, if only for a time, that those who live with us are our brothers, that they share with us the same short moment of life; that they seek, as do we, nothing but the chance to live out their lives in purpose and in happiness, winning what satisfaction and fulfillment they can.

Surely, this bond of common faith, this bond of common goal, can begin to teach us something. Surely, we can learn, at least, to look at those around us as fellow men, and surely we can begin to work a little harder to bind up the wounds among us and to become in our own hearts brothers and countrymen once again.


http://www.vsotd.com/Article.php?art_num=4651
2013-04-15 06:34:19 PM  
3 votes:

Begoggle: bugontherug: jakomo002: MrHappyRotter: STOP JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS BEFORE WE HAVE ALL THE FACTS

But the media needs to stoke fear and confusion first by breathlessly reporting BREAKING NEWS when it's really nothing of the sort. They're desperate to be first to report something, so they'll report anything and everything and then issue corrections later.

Hate to say it, but the US media, in instances like this, does 50% of the terrorists' jobs for them, by promoting fear, disgust and total conjecture at whomever did this, ratcheting up the attention, which is EXACTLY what those farks want.

Not to mention wall-to-wall video every 2 minutes.

CNN: "We have new video in that shows the explosion again from a different angle, but beware, this might be disturbing and very frightening."
Terrorists: "Hooray!"

The media only reflect what people want to watch. Don't like breathless speculative saturation coverage of tragedy? Change the channel when it comes on. Do not visit internet sites discussing it. I'm sure the Travel Channel is running a nice "someone living an extravagant lifestyle traveling abroad on our dime" show about now.

The thing is, MOST people do not watch FOX News, CNN, or MSNBC.
But those who do watch it religiously.
CNN is mostly at airports and business waiting rooms and government offices though.




Research has shown that those who watch fox tend to watch it to the exclusion of all other sources, while those who watch other news channels tend to view multiple sources for their news. Combined with fox rarely correcting their mistakes and errors, this makes Fox News viewers some of the most misinformed viewers in the nation.
2013-04-15 06:20:56 PM  
3 votes:

Lollipop165: I do want to say how proud I am of those brave men and women who rushed TOWARD the attack to help those in need. Heroes indeed.


farking goddamn this... choked me right up to watch the video right after the blast where you can see EMTs, cops and what appear to be military personnel running toward the smoke and craziness. It's stupid how proud that made me, safe and sound here in Michigan. Boston emergency responders are clearly the sh-t.... I'll never make fun of that retarded accent again.
2013-04-15 06:01:49 PM  
3 votes:

fredklein: kmmontandon: Uh, those are pretty standard these days

Perhaps. I've never heard of bomb sniffing dogs at the finish line of a marathon before- what are they looking for? Runners who just ran 26 miles with a pipebomb in their shorts?? And why the National Guard? Doesn't Posse Comitatus apply? (ie: can't use military for police work?)

On the other hand, if they KNEW there were going to be bombs near the finish line- that would explain the sniffer dogs, and the NG. Of course, if they KNEW, why didn't they do/say anything??

This is how conspiracy theories get started.


Have you tried research?  Been to other Marathons with similar attendance?  Have you done any actual looking for information that would indicate that, indeed, the presence of bomb-sniffing dogs would be atypical at this event?

Or is it just that nobody went out of their way over the last several years to put a full security briefing for any/all major events in front of you to make sure you were up to speed?

Are you getting what I'm saying here?  That just because something is not intuitively logical to you after pondering it for 30 seconds does not actually mean that it isn't both logical and common.  Because failing to grasp the difference between your own ignorance and actual knowledge is how we get things like misinformation and rumor.

That said - if you are in fact an expert on large event security arrangements, I would be happy to be proven wrong.  Otherwise, if you've never been to a marathon, and that's the basis for your 'never having heard of there being bomb-sniffing dogs' at one, well...
2013-04-15 05:45:43 PM  
3 votes:
Wow, looking at the pictures, the ones of the 4 or 5 cops in action while the guy is on the ground in front of them is probably going to be THE picture from this. It's actually a great picture, and I am proud to see the cop who drew her gun acting 100% correctly in a high stress situation like this, gun pointed at the ground, finger outside the trigger guard. We hear so much bad shiat about cops(Because there are so many who ruin the reputation for all), that it's nice to see them doing what they're meant to do.

Boston PD gets a thumbs up from me. Glad they found the extra 2 bombs and nobody else got hurt.
2013-04-15 05:35:45 PM  
3 votes:

Thats No Moose: Maybe the presence of a possible second bomb in the future will prevent idiots' first reaction to an explosion being "ZOMG! Let me video/Instagram/Tweet it!"


As someone who was directly across the street from WTC1 and who was standing under it when the second plane hit WTC2, I realize those five minutes I spent looking up and calling my wife were the dumbest of my life.

When something happens -- ANYTHING -- regardless of what you think it might be.  GET TO SAFETY.  Sounds logical but it is amazing how you don't think right when something unusual occurs.

When the second plane hit I woke up and got out of there fast.  Last ferry out of WFC and last train out of Hoboken.  Just over an hour later the spot I was standing was covered by 50 feet of rubble.

I feel for the people of Boston, when it is your home it is very painful.
2013-04-15 05:30:20 PM  
3 votes:
...and of course here come all the "thoughts and prayers" flooding Facebook from people who desperately want to feel like they've contributed something and were 'a part" of the event.
2013-04-15 05:11:02 PM  
3 votes:

wambu: Brick-House: Has the WH blamed Bush yet?

They haven't yet awakened Obama to tell him, so look for the Bush-blame later in the day.


Eat shiat, both of you.
2013-04-15 05:01:05 PM  
3 votes:
@nadie

Paranoid people blame others when there is a group who constantly thrives on making people paranoid in order to profit and remove freedoms.

Christians attack others based on others being brown. Muslims attack other based on christians attacked them. The circle jerk of aggression

When the rightwing media profits by screaming the brown BOOGY MAN IS GONNA GET CHA, its time to realize who is the true terrorist.
2013-04-15 04:56:27 PM  
3 votes:
Don't bother with the freepers, I just browsed over there and it's as disgusting as ever.
2013-04-15 04:27:51 PM  
3 votes:
Aljazeera is focusing on it (live)

http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/
2013-04-15 04:21:08 PM  
3 votes:
https://news.google.com/news/rtc?ncl=d-cm5wQtfN618eMz82vh5H_4OUR0M&ne d =us&topic=h&siidp=92ef16c17f904214a448f14e027a6800d0b6

Here is the Google News Link for this story. Google updates in real time as stories are published and indexed on various news sites, so this is probably as good as it gets for a real time news feed.
2013-04-16 01:48:39 AM  
2 votes:

Pizilla: Boojum2k: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Annnnnnnd now a US Blackhawk helicopter just crashed near the North Korean border.  Not exactly a slow news day.

Aw fark. Really?

No.

But there was a wave of attacks in Iraq.

Can't tell me it isn't connected...


It isn't connected.

/see
//I just did.
2013-04-16 01:07:55 AM  
2 votes:

Cobataiwan: Dr.Zom: Jesus. Just last month.

Domestic terrorism: Study shows sharp rise in extremist 'patriot' groups
Researchers compare this rise in activity to that just before the Oklahoma City bombing

March 06, 2013

http://www.firerescue1.com/homeland-security/articles/1414784-Domest ic -terrorism-Study-shows-sharp-rise-in-extremist-patriot-groups/

Srsly, the chances are that this is Islamic terrorism. Check bombings world wide. 90% of them are from Islamic terrorists. You guys keep hoping and hoping. Its quite sick. Who knows maybe your little fantasy will come true this time.


I'm not ruling out any possibility.   I don't have a dog in this fight.    It's amazing to me that you would immediately rule out a lone right wing nutter when the last time a home made bomb was detonated at a crowded international sporting event on American soil it was done by a lone right wing nutter.    It's almost  like you have a vested cause in assuring crazed far right wing politics aren't associated with this act, or something.
2013-04-16 01:01:01 AM  
2 votes:

Begoggle: 100% of "pundits" can go fark themselves.


I've always regarded the word "pundit" to mean "opinionated, overpaid asshole".
2013-04-16 12:41:53 AM  
2 votes:

InmanRoshi: The entire purpose of an act of political terrorism is to make a statement.   Not making the statement to tie it to your politics kinda defeats the purpose.


I see your logic and raise you the Atlanta Olympic bombing.  Eric Lee Rudolph didn't issue any statement claiming credit, and it was only tied to him one or two years later.  His choice of target didn't seem to send a clear political message about anything, and it was anyone's guess why some dude bombed the Olympics.

If you have a subculture like the 90s militia subculture or white nationalists, a terrorist act may simply be an attack on the USA, and only intended to have symbolic meaning to other members of the subculture, not for the general public.  The OK city bombing was intended to be a signal for other militia types to rise up and revolt against the USA, for example.
2013-04-16 12:23:16 AM  
2 votes:

Samwise Gamgee: Not saying it was a claymore, but even if it was, that doesn't mean it was military in origin. Claymores have been around for over 100 years and they're not hard to make. <b> Could be someone's homebrewed equivalent.

</b>

I'm not getting into the culprit's motivation, but I cant help but think that if someone had some  real  ballistics and explosives training, though the US military or AQ or otherwise,  they could have created something that could do more damage than 3 fatalities after being detonated in a gigantic crowd.   This looks like some sort of Eric Murdock cooked-it-up-in-my-own-backyard-using-teh-intrawebbings bullshiat.
2013-04-16 12:23:07 AM  
2 votes:
Stratohead:

This is Al Qaeda or an affiliate.

No way. Al Quaeda would have immediately claimed responsibility. That's what they do.
2013-04-16 12:04:09 AM  
2 votes:
i1182.photobucket.com
2013-04-15 11:44:40 PM  
2 votes:

T.rex: That #8 pic... the dude in the cowboy hat is holding the guy's femoral artery, keeping him from bleeding out.


The guy in the yellow vest's also got his index finger jammed in something important like a cork.

A former coworker (whom I believe) said he did the same thing on a rescue toboggan as a Ski Patroller, nearly freezing his finger off.

I hope we find out who those guys are, rather less of course than I hope Tibia Man pulls through and becomes the next blade runner.
2013-04-15 11:44:09 PM  
2 votes:

J. Frank Parnell: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: It's entirely possible we'll never know who did this.

It remaining unsolved would be a good talking point for increased public surveillance.


You guys mean like the whole Anthrax attack?
2013-04-15 11:39:49 PM  
2 votes:

SurelyShirley: Look at the recent case of ex-LAPD officer Dorner, who killed the daughter of the man he thought responsible for his firing, and her fiance.
Also, DC sniper, who supposedly wanted to kill his ex-wife in order to get custody of their kids, and shot all other victims as a diversion


There was also Ronald Clark O'Bryan, who gave out poisoned Pixie Stix at Halloween as a cover for poisoning his own kid for insurance money.  It's not unheard of for someone to plot to kill extra people randomly as a cover for a single murder.

On the other hand, here we're talking about a bombing---this probably requires more skill and sophistication than you'd expect from the kind of guy who says, "I know!  I'll kill a bunch of extra people so I won't get caught!"
2013-04-15 11:29:06 PM  
2 votes:

Bonanza Jellybean: Are you claymore people for real? Is it so hard to imagine a homemade devide using readily-available ball bearings as shrapnel?

/not to mention, claymores are uni-directional


Bot only that, but the explosive inside a Claymore is C-4.  Much faster reaction, and WAY, WAY, WAY more powerful than the explosion that I saw on the video.  A Claymore would've flattened everything all the way  to across the street, assuming it was aimed in that direction.
2013-04-15 11:24:06 PM  
2 votes:

teeny: I'm being a complete coward about this. I heard about the bombing, but I homeschool my kids so I didn't have time to sit and read any details. A few hours ago I skimmed my FB page and saw a disgusting, derpy post about how it's all a liberal plot to disarm all of us. I quite literally gagged and shut my computer down, turned off my phone and spent the rest of the afternoon playing with my kids outside.

I know I need to get my head out of the sand sometime, but I can't stomach derp. Is there a kind farker willing to give me a cliffnotes update of what we know? Or at least an article?


Three dead, 140+ injured, 17 critically so the death toll may go up.  The police have been talking to a Saudi national but are reiterating that he is not in custody.  Therefore, the number one suspect is whoever you disagree with most politically at the moment, and if a handful of farkers who play call of duty were there, they totally would have stopped this due to their inherent badassery.  Also the police are obligated to tell us everything they think in realtime because America.
2013-04-15 11:20:05 PM  
2 votes:

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: It's entirely possible we'll never know who did this.


AQ would have released half a dozen videos to Al Jazeera by now if they had done this.

The longer the silence, the more likely it is we're looking at a lone wolf type.
2013-04-15 11:17:52 PM  
2 votes:

miss diminutive: Today's events have both saddened and angered me, sentiments I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling. Then coming into these threads and seeing countless Farkers stumble over one another to place the blame on whichever group suits their particular agenda and personal viewpoint angered me further. I was honestly disgusted with humanity. Then, I stopped and realized that this is probably the symptom of living in an age where we have instantaneous access to horrible events yet, stuck behind our keyboards, there's simply nothing we can do about them. We can't help those afflicted, we can't lend a helping hand, we can't search for those responsible. In that void maybe we search for something, anything, to do. And maybe assigning blame seems the path of least resistance.

Looking at the scenes of carnage from the race my first thoughts were "what sort of monster would do this?" and if I let myself go down that path it's easy to start to believe that the world is going to hell and that we've completely lost our humanity. But when you look past the images of maimed people you see countless others who rushed to the scene, disregarding their own safety, to help in any way possible. For every one monster out there, there are least 1000 people willing to stop and help, to lend a hand or a shoulder. For every political douchebag interested in scoring points in some twisted blame game, there are a thousand people who want nothing more than peace for those injured and justice brought to those responsible.

So, I'm going to make a donation to the red cross (I'm too light to donate blood), I'm going to help my elderly neighbour trim her hedges tomorrow evening and I'm going to hug my friends and offer them my time should they need it. I can't help the people of Boston, but I can make my tiny corner of the world a better place, and collectively that beats any monster with a bomb full of shrapnel every time. At least, in my opinion it does.

/sorry for rant
//yeah, lighten up francis


If I could pay you a TF month, I'd do it :).
2013-04-15 10:58:09 PM  
2 votes:

Sticky Hands: Keizer_Ghidorah: Apparently you've forgotten what today is.

The day makes a little bit of sense.
The target makes much less sense.

Our home grown nutjobs nearly always target specific buildings/people. (OKC, IRS, Anthrax to legislators , etc.)


Eric Rudolph says hi.

Crazy comes in all forms.
2013-04-15 10:53:23 PM  
2 votes:

LessO2: Christ, if this picture is real, it's heartbreaking.

It certainly looks like an eight year-old.

Pic is SFW, just heartbreaking.


It is an adult female.  The Huffingtonpost slideshow shows the same victim receiving medical attention.    Judging by the way she is holding her hands up, and the EMT monitoring her pulse, she at least appears to be conscious.   (link not graphic)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/15/boston-marathon-bombing-pho to s_n_3087332.html#slide=2340352

The rest of that slideshow has graphic photos, including another angle of the poor guy in the wheelchair with massive leg trauma.  It clearly shows he lost both legs.
2013-04-15 10:49:01 PM  
2 votes:
If this turns out to be al Qaeda based can we then admit tha Iraq was lost and bring everyone home ASAP? Because "fighting them over there instead of here" obviously didn't work.
2013-04-15 10:48:12 PM  
2 votes:
imageshack.us
2013-04-15 10:42:19 PM  
2 votes:
I rarely use the word 'Hate".  It is a powerful and negative word.  For me, hatred is reserved for one type of person:  The Coward.

Planting bombs to go off in the midst of innocent people going about their everyday lives is the job of a coward.  Convincing some illiterate kid he is doing "god's will" while you walk away is the ultimate coward.

I dont know who is responsible for the bombings today, but I know they are Cowards.
2013-04-15 10:34:57 PM  
2 votes:
Thank You!

Aigoo:
 "What happened in Boston today is not about politics--yours, mine, or anyone else's. It's a horrific tragedy in which people are dead and dying, people are losing limbs, and there is still blood running in the streets of Boston on what should be a day celebrating the triumph of one of the oldest sporting events and traditions in our country. Leave the bullshiat out of it, wish the best for the Farkers in Boston, and if you're so inclined, send prayers, best wishes, happy thoughts, wishes upon a star, or general positivity towards Boston and Massachusetts in general. But for fark's sake, keep that political bullshiat to yourself. Just for one goddamned day. "
2013-04-15 10:17:32 PM  
2 votes:

that bosnian sniper: hardinparamedic: so you're insinuating a US soldier did this?

That's what you're saying here?

Wade Michael Page, Nidal Hasan, Jim David Adkisson, Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and Michael Fortier. Six names, right off the top of my head, and I know if I went to my bookshelf I could probably double or triple that list with less time and effort than it took me to write  thispost.  What do all six of those people have in common?


The same thing as 2,280,875 other people--they happen to have worn or currently wear a uniform of one of this nation's five armed forces.

So you can triple that number to 18 if you go to your bookshelf? Good for you. It still doesn't even come to one tenth of one percent of the men and women who serve honorably so that you have the First Amendment freedom to be a farkwit. It doesn't equal one millionth of one percent of the men and women who have served honorably over the past 238 years to guarantee that right to your ancestors and mine.

And yes, I did find that number with less time and effort than it took anyone here to write any post in this thread.

For what it's worth, the actions of men like McVeigh (I live in Oklahoma City) and all those listed and unlisted that have tarnished the honor of the uniform--my uniform--repulse me... but so does your (currently because there is no information to support it, nor is there currently any information to support the accusation that the perpetrator is a person from a Middle Eastern country) unfounded accusation. Still, I swore an oath to defend the Constitution, even when I disagree vehemently with the bullshiat and verbal diarrhea being spewed from the mouths of others.

What happened in Boston today is not about politics--yours, mine, or anyone else's. It's a horrific tragedy in which people are dead and dying, people are losing limbs, and there is still blood running in the streets of Boston on what should be a day celebrating the triumph of one of the oldest sporting events and traditions in our country. Leave the bullshiat out of it, wish the best for the Farkers in Boston, and if you're so inclined, send prayers, best wishes, happy thoughts, wishes upon a star, or general positivity towards Boston and Massachusetts in general. But for fark's sake, keep that political bullshiat to yourself. Just for one goddamned day.

Even here on Fark, there really is such a thing as "too soon." And within twelve hours falls in that category.
2013-04-15 10:13:58 PM  
2 votes:
Find them

Track them

Kill them
2013-04-15 10:12:36 PM  
2 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians.


www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov

Professor... Bomber... Adviser to Presidents
2013-04-15 10:06:09 PM  
2 votes:
I am beyond horrified.  Thoughts are with those injured and lost.  That is all I have to say.
2013-04-15 10:05:24 PM  
2 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians.


It's pretty clear that you're not a fan of higher education.
2013-04-15 10:01:29 PM  
2 votes:

Infernalist: What if these bombs weren't home-made at all, but military equipment?


There would be a lot more dead and injured.
2013-04-15 10:00:46 PM  
2 votes:

aedude01: Jesus Christ.


No. Arredondo, Carlos Arredondo.
2013-04-15 10:00:36 PM  
2 votes:

tripleseven: Your Average Witty Fark User: Somacandra: Your Average Witty Fark User: I can't believe the number of people commenting on places like CNN blaming this on Obama.

I don't see even the hypothetical connection. Are people actually suggesting it was some kind of drone strike from the White House on the Boston Marathon?

I've seen "It's Obama's fault because he didn't stop it", "It's Obama's fault because he golfed on Saturday", "It's Obama's fault because he planned this to happen", "Radical Islam did it, so Obama", "Democrats are behind this to increase the TSA so Obama", "Socialism, so Obama", "Obama lied about Beghazi, he's lying about this", "If Obama had just banned bombs like he wants to ban guns...", etc, etc, etc...

It makes me farking sick. CNN comments look like Fox News. It sickens me to think half of this country has an IQ of 3. Combined.

Fox News shut off their comments on their site.  Apparently, they got tired of their own derp.  So, the derp moved to CNN and Yahoo news.


Wow.

Just wow
2013-04-15 09:58:40 PM  
2 votes:

Amos Quito: ScaryBottles: Who did you have your heart set on blaming?

Koreans?

Iranians?

Mooselimbs?

Palestinians?

You go ahead and blame whoever makes you feel better. Mmmkay?

I'm not blaming anyone I have no idea who did you're the one jumping to conclusions.


LOL!

I laid out the three most likely scenarios as to who may have done this:

1. TERRORISTS - domestic or foreign who are either acting out of perceived "revenge" or are trying to make a "statement".

2. False-Flag - an act committed by one party with the specific intent of having a third party (or group) blamed - the goal being political gain.

3. Crazies who have no motive other than destruction.

What other possibility could there be?



4. "Criminal False-Flag", in which an "ordinary" murder attempt is masked as a terrorist bombing. This wouldn't be the first time that sort of thing happened in the USA. There was a series of pipe bombs set off some years ago that had people coming up with all kind of political scenarios. Turned out that it was a murder for money with extra bombings to throw people off the trail.
2013-04-15 09:58:38 PM  
2 votes:
Why in the flying fark does anyone care if Westboro Baptist commented on the attack?
2013-04-15 09:57:18 PM  
2 votes:
outside of the shining path are there any left-wing terrorist groups still active? FARC seems to have turned more to drug running than actual liberation of the peasantry so....I dunno?
2013-04-15 09:55:42 PM  
2 votes:
Tonight at MIT:
pbs.twimg.com
2013-04-15 09:55:31 PM  
2 votes:

Somacandra: Your Average Witty Fark User: I can't believe the number of people commenting on places like CNN blaming this on Obama.

I don't see even the hypothetical connection. Are people actually suggesting it was some kind of drone strike from the White House on the Boston Marathon?


I've seen "It's Obama's fault because he didn't stop it", "It's Obama's fault because he golfed on Saturday", "It's Obama's fault because he planned this to happen", "Radical Islam did it, so Obama", "Democrats are behind this to increase the TSA so Obama", "Socialism, so Obama", "Obama lied about Beghazi, he's lying about this", "If Obama had just banned bombs like he wants to ban guns...", etc, etc, etc...

It makes me farking sick. CNN comments look like Fox News. It sickens me to think half of this country has an IQ of 3. Combined.
2013-04-15 09:52:03 PM  
2 votes:
Corn_Fed: It's not a true tragedy until Pat Robertson blames it all on the gays.

MrHappyRotter: I'm fairly sure Westboro has already said this is punishment for Mass. allowing gay marriage, so close enough.


It occurs to me that after Fred Phelps dies, his grave (and probably those of other WBC principals) will likely become giant urinals.
2013-04-15 09:34:37 PM  
2 votes:

Giltric: super_grass: LOL, people decided to loot the merchandise after the bomb blasts.

What a bunch of cockroaches.

Some of the NYPD/NYFD/EMS/PAPD and other personnel were looting Rolexes and whatnot from some of the boutiques below WTC in between shifts of digging out the remians of victims.


I hope they did seeing as they got completely screwed over on the healthcare front.
2013-04-15 09:34:02 PM  
2 votes:
Did somebody say anti-government Domestic terrorist?

jewsforsarah.com
"I don't regret setting bombs" and "I feel we didn't do enough." Bill Ayers, New York Times, Sept. 11, 2001
2013-04-15 09:31:33 PM  
2 votes:

Corn_Fed: It's not a true tragedy until Pat Robertson blames it all on the gays.


I'm fairly sure Westboro has already said this is punishment for Mass. allowing gay marriage, so close enough.  It's really amazing how much damage I was able to do considering I didn't even know about this until several hours after it happened and even though I haven't had sex in months.

I do apologize to all the straight folks that were killed and maimed because I chose to be attracted to men instead of women.
2013-04-15 09:29:04 PM  
2 votes:

vermicious k'nid: Krustofsky: WizardofToast: farkingismybusiness: Here is another angle of the Picture #8 guy. NSFW GORE The Cowboy is squeezing his artery.

"The man in the cowboy hat is Carlos Arredondo. He is an immigrant citizen of the U.S. who lost his son in Iraq and is now a peace activist and speaker. When the explosions happened, you can see that he did not hesitate to run towards the chaos and help, obviously trying to get this poor man out of there and to hold a tourniquet on one of his severed legs. Later, he was being interviewed, visibly shaking from shock and holding an American flag, soaked in the blood of other people. Carlos Arredondo's selflessness and bravery should be known and applauded."

Carlos Arredondo
Carlos Arredondo
Carlos Arredondo

Let's try and remember Carlos Arredondo's  name instead of whatever shiatbucket(s) did this.


100% this. Fark the murderer(s) and the "HURR DURR FALSE FLAG" reporter. I'm focusing more on what people are doing to help right now (blood donations, people handing out water bottles to emergency specialists, going into danger to save people).
2013-04-15 09:27:10 PM  
2 votes:

poot_rootbeer: sheep snorter: Ring leaders to be rounded up for this domestic terrorism by the TeaParty:
Limbaugh
Beck
Koch bros
Bachmann
And the rest.

Come back and troll tomorrow, kid.  Now's not the time.


There is good in a tragedy.

I've found three new people to ignore. However, the sheep snorter was already ignored. Don't ignore those who are different. Don't ignore those who have a point of view you can't agree with. Don't ignore people who have different favorite teams or a different political party than you have.

No...

Save the ignore for the stupid. Save it for the people whom conversing with isn't going to help. Save it for those people who aren't worth the air they consume. Save the ignore feature for the pathetic.

Surprisingly, there are still many people who fit on the ignore list even if you use it only to ignore those who are painfully stupid, stupid beyond compare, and those who somehow manage to have a negative value on the planet.

Just think, they're here often so they're probably surviving off of "disability" due to mental trouble. We're paying them our tax dollars. Responding to them only encourages them, if we discourage them by not giving them attention they may go do something more beneficial. It is unlikely but it could happen.
2013-04-15 09:26:19 PM  
2 votes:
I can't believe the number of people commenting on places like CNN blaming this on Obama.

I want to personally slap the shiat out of these people. Each and every one of them.

/positive thoughts for the survivors and their families, condolences for the deceased and their families
2013-04-15 09:20:47 PM  
2 votes:

farkingismybusiness: "The man in the cowboy hat is Carlos Arredondo. He is an immigrant citizen of the U.S. who lost his son in Iraq and is now a peace activist and speaker. When the explosions happened, you can see that he did not hesitate to run towards the chaos and help, obviously trying to get this poor man out of there and to hold a tourniquet on one of his severed legs. Later, he was being interviewed, visibly shaking from shock and holding an American flag, soaked in the blood of other people. Carlos Arredondo's selflessness and bravery should be known and applauded."


qft
2013-04-15 09:17:20 PM  
2 votes:

MustangFive: My money is on a white RW male between the ages of 35 & 50, who drank the Tea Party Kool-Aid ("Taxed Enough Already!!!!!11!!!!ELEVENTY!!!") and decided that Boston would make a fine target due to:


Every time there's an "incident", some idiot like you says, "I bet it was a tea party guy" or some variation thereof.  And every time it's completely wrong.  So how about you shut your ignorant mouth and wait for some actual farking facts for a change?  I don't even like that tea party all that much, but this knee-jerk finger pointing is getting damn tiresome.
2013-04-15 09:14:07 PM  
2 votes:
My 2 cents: If it was some type fo anti-government/tax types I would think they wouldtarget government buildings or symbols of government not a marathon.
2013-04-15 09:12:39 PM  
2 votes:

FatherDale: Well, Charles Krauthammer of Fox News told us that this was an act of foreign terrorism


I guess this means that this was an act of domestic terrorism.
2013-04-15 09:09:15 PM  
2 votes:
Am I the only one who's noticed that the guy next to the wheelchair in pic #8 is actually squeezing the guy's artery between his fingers to stop the blood?
2013-04-15 09:06:40 PM  
2 votes:

DamnYankees: Wow, first question to Patrick is whether this is a false flag. What the hell.


Uh, How could it be "false flag" when nobody has been blamed for it yet? Dosen't the wrong party have to take the blame for that to occur?  Or  maybe I just don't get Deep Tea Thinking.
2013-04-15 09:05:55 PM  
2 votes:
There's some asshole at the press conference who just asked the Governor if this was a false flag operation designed to allow homeland security to stick its hands down his pants.

I hope the local police who just picked up the limbs of a child help him out of the press conference.
2013-04-15 08:34:05 PM  
2 votes:
I finished the marathon about an hour before this happened and I'll be back next year to run it again.  Thoughts and prayers with the injured and departed as well as their family.
2013-04-15 08:33:52 PM  
2 votes:

WhyteRaven74: Severed arteries contract and constrict, so you don't bleed out right away like you would with a cut artery. If he's alive it's because the arteries were severed so he didn't bleed out on the spot.


this

and you can clearly see the artery
2013-04-15 08:31:32 PM  
2 votes:

chopit: If that guy is still alive it's a marvel of modern medicine.


Severed arteries contract and constrict, so you don't bleed out right away like you would with a cut artery. If he's alive it's because the arteries were severed so he didn't bleed out on the spot.
2013-04-15 08:27:03 PM  
2 votes:

hardinparamedic: This. Ball bearings mean you were planning to murder people on a massive scale. It's not usually the work of some right winged paranoid idiot.


except when they do

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fbi-pipe-bomb-found-spokane-washington -m lk-parade/story?id=12642275

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Olympic_Park_bombing
2013-04-15 08:20:57 PM  
2 votes:

hardinparamedic: homelessdude: Not to be outdone by Jennifer Rubin in the stupid comment department,
Cray Cray Cynthia McKinney and her crack band of investigators have figured the whole thing out.
[i.imgur.com image 312x450]

America can sleep now.

holy shiat. That's Alex jones level batshiat right there.

Who is that woman?


She was a politician that was a Democratic representative for awhile. She believed a lot of crazy shiat like the Department of Defense killing 5000 people in the Katrina aftermath. Her father even blamed the Jews for her losing one election.

As a Democrat, I'm extremely sorry she somehow got in.
2013-04-15 08:17:04 PM  
2 votes:
hardinparamedic: This. Ball bearings mean you were planning to murder people on a massive scale. It's not usually the work of some right winged paranoid idiot.

I think planting farking bombs at the Boston marathon should have been your first clue that this person/persons wanted to murder on a massive scale.
2013-04-15 08:15:56 PM  
2 votes:
In all this I understand there can be a desire to document and event, but it disturbs me terribly to see videos and pictures of people in need of help, someone in  moment of distress and pain, instead of a reaction to help they video or stand over them and picture their tragedy.

And much as the comments people make in forums and on this site and on the news site to make light and jokes of other peoples pain and misery I just don't get it, I guess enough people haven't seen violent death and injury of people and children up close to understand the what it does to people to gain some sort of empathy and I hope people never have to but jokes especially when children are injured and killed  just show a lack of humanity and character
2013-04-15 08:15:13 PM  
2 votes:

aedude01: //Working on a terrorism themed script at the moment


Free plot point: The RFID chips attached to runners' shoes were used to trigger the bomb(s).
2013-04-15 08:13:12 PM  
2 votes:
I keep thinking that the longer we go without anyone claiming responsibility the more likely it is that it's a home grown variety of nut.  That's based on nothing more than a conversation I remember having about terrorism with an Israeli woman.  It was about an airplane explosion that I remember happened a few weeks before the Atlanta Olympic Park bombing.

She made the point that terrorist groups usually trip over themselves claiming responsibility for these kinds of things because after all, it makes them look good to their followers.
2013-04-15 08:11:03 PM  
2 votes:

PC LOAD LETTER: hardinparamedic: Ball bearings mean you were planning to murder people on a massive scale. It's not usually the work of some right winged paranoid idiot.

A farking TRUCK filled with fertilizer blew up in OK City and you really think ball bearings makes the slightest bit of a difference?


I didn't say who did it. I said the use of ball bearings is a step up from the typical idiot who downloads the anarchist cookbook.

It indicates a fundamental knowledge of IED design.

And McVeigh was a smart, determined person who had support too. His attack was not a lone wolf.
2013-04-15 08:09:43 PM  
2 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: SnakeLee: So there was a Muslim in custody as per NY Post, but it was just some random guy that a bystander tackled for being Muslim


He is apparently guilty of being a Saudi in a no-Saudi zone.


There is also no suspect in custody. http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/boston-police-commissione r -there-is-no-suspect-in

Unless that's changed in the last bit.
2013-04-15 08:08:12 PM  
2 votes:

4seasons85!: Endive Wombat: Communist_Manifesto: I'm honestly surprised things like this don't happen in the US more often. We are a very large nation with a ton of enemies both internal and external. Add in the fact that if you want to detonate a bomb somewhere there isn't a whole lot stopping you from acquiring the materials and doing it. Hopefully this is the typical american loner/psycho/mass-murderer and not a prequel to some sort of large sustained terror campaign funded/coordinated by some sort of radical group in our biggest cities.

You and me both.

Yep. Agreed.


Pretty much THIS. 

In the end this going to turn out to be either a)A small domestic group of pissed off white guys or b)A fringe Al Qaeda group that slept through their training.  If there was some serious mastermind behind the attack, those other (2 or 3) bombs would have gone off and it wouldn't have happened ONLY in Boston; you'd be seeing simultaneous attacks in several American cities.  That's not what happened here.  Also, the targets imply a home-grown terrorist element to this.


/Screenwriter

//Working on a terrorism themed script at the moment

///No need to break down my door, big brother.
2013-04-15 08:07:02 PM  
2 votes:

nvmac: Bunny Deville: Well, I guess my faith in humanity is somewhat restored, seeing that a good half of you are tired of people laying the blame for this on the group of their choice.

I blame assholism, personally, no matter who did it.

So, we're at 50%?  Well, that's probably the national average as well.  Humanity needs to be at least at 95%.  Maybe one day we'll get there, not that we've ever been close in the history of man.

/hey bunny
//*sadface*


I've been on a one woman crusade to get people to STOP ACTING LIKE ASSHOLES ON THE INTERNET for a couple of months now. Calling your fellow citizens "teabagger counts" or "mooslim fanatics" or "liberal baby killers" or WHATEVER is a form of dehumanization. Dehumanizing your fellow man makes it easier to commit acts like this, which then kill innocent people who probably weren't whatever racial/cultural/political slur the killer intended to harm in the first place.

Wheaton's Law. Don't be a dick.

/off my soapbox. Hey, nvmac. September is so far away.
2013-04-15 08:00:53 PM  
2 votes:

mikaloyd: Bunny Deville: Well, I guess my faith in humanity is somewhat restored, seeing that a good half of you are tired of people laying the blame for this on the group of their choice.

I blame assholism, personally, no matter who did it.

I posted one of these in the other thread. Another wont hurt I suppose.


I actually just finished giving that speech to my kids, my son was getting a little freaked out over this. I had to turn off the TV until they go to bed.
2013-04-15 07:56:15 PM  
2 votes:

netweavr: CNN is reporting ball bearings were used as shrapnel.


OH SH*T.

If that's the case, this was not an attempt at a "mere" bombing. They were trying to inflict maximum damage with a minimum footprint.
2013-04-15 07:43:26 PM  
2 votes:
Christ, if this picture is real, it's heartbreaking.

It certainly looks like an eight year-old.

Pic is SFW, just heartbreaking.
2013-04-15 07:39:58 PM  
2 votes:

locustfajita: religion of peace?


There aren't any.
2013-04-15 07:22:18 PM  
2 votes:
If you visit Wiki for 15th April, there are a whole bunch of events listed, and if one was that way inclined it's possible to make a good creative "reason why" out a good number of them:)  But, it just so happens, this date is the 44th anniversary of NK shooting down a U.S. Navy plane over the Sea of Japan....

Personally, I believe it's more likely to be a home-grown crazy with an axe to grind.
2013-04-15 07:20:48 PM  
2 votes:

flexflint: Jesus: photo of a guy with his clothes shredded off his body: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kenshinokubo/8653411636/sizes/l/in/photo s tream/


farm9.staticflickr.com

Apparently this guy is a motherfarking Terminator. Good on him...
2013-04-15 07:11:45 PM  
2 votes:
I'm going to throw my theory out there for shiats and giggles, just so I can come back to it and see how close I got.

-Single domestic terrorist
-Novice
-Built then stashed the bombs a store/hotel along the marathon path prior to marathon prep, allowing him to get through initial checkpoints without any hassle (assuming they have them)
-Waited for a dog sweep before getting the bombs and planting them 10 minutes prior to detonation before another dog sweep could detect them
2013-04-15 06:55:07 PM  
2 votes:
Try not to quote this, as the NY post will probably repeat it as truth, but here are some things to think about:  When has an international terror organization like AQ ever done a terror attack and gone small?  In the grand scheme of things, this is a pretty small terrorist attack.  Second, when has an international terror organization ever let this much time after an attack pass before claiming credit?  This is more than likely a domestic terrorist, pissed that he had to pay taxes, and wanted to take his petty frustrations out on a large number of innocent people and become infamous at the same time...
2013-04-15 06:49:09 PM  
2 votes:

jack21221: zippolight2002: jack21221: TV's Vinnie: Suspect in guarded custody is a Saudi national.

Apparently, it was a guy that a civilian just chased down and tackled for acting suspicious. Sounds like an overzealous "patriot" to me.

He was "acting suspiciously and running from the explosion"....  it would be more suspicious if he WASN'T running for farks sake.

Real Americans slowly walk away from the explosion while putting on a pair of sunglasses and not looking back.


If I were Middle Eastern any shade of brown and happened to be near an explosion, I'd probably give out a depressed sigh and run for my life.
2013-04-15 06:44:25 PM  
2 votes:
"We still do not know who did this or why ... but make no mistake: We will get to the bottom of (this). We will find out who did this. We will find out why they did this. ... Any responsible groups will feel the full weight of justice."

"The American people will say a prayer for Boston tonight, and Michelle and I send out deepest thoughts and prayers to the victims."

It's telling he used the word 'groups'.  Just observation.
2013-04-15 06:38:07 PM  
2 votes:
Suspect in guarded custody is a Saudi national.

You know what this means, don't you?

www.jtf.org
RE-INVADE IRAQ!!!!
2013-04-15 06:37:57 PM  
2 votes:

bingo the psych-o: You're right.  Everyone should go home and report the events in a month or two once everything is sorted out (rolls eyes).


Some would say the role of The Media should be to inform the public by distributing factual information, not rumors and theories.
2013-04-15 06:09:52 PM  
2 votes:
For all the Farkers who never leave their mother's basement:

Police dogs are common at events with thousands of spectators.The National Guard is often used to help with crowd control and traffic flow with events that occupy a large part of a major city (parades, marathons, protests, etc).

Just because you haven't seen a "bomb dog", or what you assume is a bomb dog, at a marathon before, doesn't mean the dog is part of a vast international governmental conspiracy.
2013-04-15 06:05:48 PM  
2 votes:

fredklein: kmmontandon: Uh, those are pretty standard these days

Perhaps. I've never heard of bomb sniffing dogs at the finish line of a marathon before- what are they looking for? Runners who just ran 26 miles with a pipebomb in their shorts?? And why the National Guard? Doesn't Posse Comitatus apply? (ie: can't use military for police work?)

On the other hand, if they KNEW there were going to be bombs near the finish line- that would explain the sniffer dogs, and the NG. Of course, if they KNEW, why didn't they do/say anything??

This is how conspiracy theories get started.


Fred, quit trying to stir people up. I've seen close to three dozen boston marathons, the national guard always helps with crowd control, and they always bring some bomb sniffing dogs.
2013-04-15 06:04:41 PM  
2 votes:

Sid_6.7: ACunningPlan: Not true: the Harrods bomb, Enniskillen, the Corporation St. bomb in Manchester to name but a few. And not to mention all the trash cans which had to be removed from the streets of London because people kept planting bombs in them. But what they won't do is bite the hand that fed them; I'd be really surprised if this had anything to do with Irish terrorism.

And those were the exception rather than the rule.


Not if you lived in Belfast or Derry or other places they weren't.  Most importantly, those types of targets were also some of their biggest successes in terms of achieving their goal.
2013-04-15 06:04:27 PM  
2 votes:

GoldSpider: Lord_Baull: Dunno, this was the first offense post I saw.

Keep reading.  People on both sides desperately want this to be a brickbat to be thrown at the other side.



Like this moran?

Launch Code: To deflect the reality of an actual coordinated terrorism attack against America. Obamorons should start blaming UTube videos. All hail dear leader.

2013-04-15 06:02:55 PM  
2 votes:

VivianVivisect: katerbug72: VivianVivisect: What ever you do, don't search "#boston" in Instagram ***vomit***

OMG the guy missing most of his lower leg aside from the bone. Holy fark.

I told you. The wheel chair guy?

Everyone says that. *Shivers*


That poor man. Horrifying.
2013-04-15 05:57:42 PM  
2 votes:

fredklein: Perhaps. I've never heard of bomb sniffing dogs at the finish line of a marathon before- what are they looking for? Runners who just ran 26 miles with a pipebomb in their shorts?? And why the National Guard? Doesn't Posse Comitatus apply? (ie: can't use military for police work?)

On the other hand, if they KNEW there were going to be bombs near the finish line- that would explain the sniffer dogs, and the NG. Of course, if they KNEW, why didn't they do/say anything??


The Boston Marathon is not just "AnyOld Marathon"... it's easily the biggest marathon in the world (as in most popular, I don't think it's necessarily the most runners attending). There's thousands upon thousands of spectators. Any even like that in a major city has police dogs. For example, the Washington Nationals home games have bomb sniffing dogs wandering around for EVERY GAME.

No idea why you're talking about Posse Comitatus. The Army can't be used for regular police work. But the National Guard is used ALL THE TIME for general crowd control, directing traffic, etc at large events.
2013-04-15 05:55:28 PM  
2 votes:
Apparently they're classified as "home-made" bombs.  Given the coincidence of the Marathon happening on April 15th, I suspect we'll discover that the bombers have Tea Party connections.
2013-04-15 05:54:30 PM  
2 votes:

zippolight2002: miss diminutive: netweavr: Looks like the area hit was reserved for survivors of Sandy Hook....

https://twitter.com/TimWilliamsCBS/status/323886061925314560

If that's true and they were deliberately targeted...

...I really don't want to finish that sentence.

Why plant 2 bombs then?  It's a VIP area, you know exactly where they're going to be.  Also, it hasn't been confirmed and probably bullshiat to begin with.



The second is to catch the first responders. Very common with anyone who wants to cause maximum destruction.
2013-04-15 05:50:55 PM  
2 votes:
for everyone trolling from the left, go ahead and use this as you see fit.

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2016132608_apusmlkparadeexplo si ves.html

apologies to those trolling from the right.  There just haven't really been a lot of lefty domestic terror plots lately.
2013-04-15 05:50:23 PM  
2 votes:

HotIgneous Intruder: Carth: Obama to address the nation at 6:10 pm edt.

Why?


[politely]

You needn't listen if you don't wish to.
2013-04-15 05:49:46 PM  
2 votes:

Brick-House: Has the WH blamed Bush yet?


I hope you get perma-banned for being a World Class douchebag.
2013-04-15 05:46:57 PM  
2 votes:

fredklein: hardinparamedic: fredklein: hardinparamedic: Alex Jones just released a statement that the US government did it as a false flag.

Can someone kick that parasite in the face

Actually, he said this:

"...the fact that no firearms were used in the attack may indicate this was NOT part of a false flag effort by the government to try to blame gun owners."

gotcha. He's an attention whoring dick then.

I stick with my original statement. Boot to face.

Of course. Let's just ignore all the unusual things that happened in Boston today... like the national guard being deployed along the route, the bomb sniffing dogs that were at the finish line, and so on, just because you don't like the person pointing them out. 'I don't like you, thus you are lying. Boot to the headface!'. I'm so glad we have open-minded people like you around....


Um, those are pretty standard practices now for any high-profile event.  Bomb sniffing dogs went through freaking Bracket Town in Atlanta during the Final 4.
2013-04-15 05:46:28 PM  
2 votes:

please: Drew: Also folks - be aware that at this stage in the news cycle pretty much no one knows anything, and 90% of everything's gonna be issued a correction later by MSM.  That said it still helps to know what's going on now

This.  And it's the early, entirely wrong statements that will be still be getting repeated months later.


And the asshole nutjobs will use those early contradictory reports as "proof" of their farked up conspiracy "theories."
2013-04-15 05:45:38 PM  
2 votes:

Gyrfalcon: hardinparamedic: Alex Jones just released a statement that the US government did it as a false flag.

Can someone kick that parasite in the face

Terrorists bomb the wrong people.


Within 20 minutes of the explosion someone posted that the AP reported that Newtown families were near one of the blast zones.  And a reply stated "maybe they'll go to congress to ban bombs"

Now is not the time for your political hay to be made.  Its the time to let the investigation play out and make sure those in need get treatment for their wounds and injuries.  And that goes for all sides libby and conny and indy.
2013-04-15 05:44:22 PM  
2 votes:

Uncle_Git: Uhhh really ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_the_London_Underground#1992_ IR A_attacks


The IRA does not, generally speaking, attempt to kill random civilians. It has happened in the past, but most attacks are at infrastructure, not people, and they call ahead to warn that people should be evacuated. When attacks are intentionally against people, they're normally against people who are perceived as occupying or otherwise working against the IRA and their goals. Random people in a marathon don't fit this profile.

This attack is the opposite of their MO, unless it was completely idiotic and poorly planned on their part.
2013-04-15 05:42:52 PM  
2 votes:

Nadie_AZ: JustFarkingGreat: Video from finish line of bomb going off -- caution, graphic

Unfarkingreal. Watching that video feels like reliving 9/11 for this native New Yorker... my heart goes out to the victims, families, and first responders...

Reliving 9/11 ... seriously? Am I going to be seeing footage of people hurling themselves from the burning finish line on the evening news? No, this is a tragic event, but we must keep it in perspective.


I can see that I'll be taking a lot of flack for this comment in this thread, but coming from someone who spent that day in lower Manhattan, my first feelings watching that video truly reminded me of that day... I'm by no means trying to belittle either event, just pouring it out on here. My heart feels farking broken right now.
2013-04-15 05:39:50 PM  
2 votes:

fredklein: hardinparamedic: Alex Jones just released a statement that the US government did it as a false flag.

Can someone kick that parasite in the face

Actually, he said this:

"...the fact that no firearms were used in the attack may indicate this was NOT part of a false flag effort by the government to try to blame gun owners."


gotcha. He's an attention whoring dick then.

I stick with my original statement. Boot to face.
2013-04-15 05:36:45 PM  
2 votes:

JustFarkingGreat: Video from finish line of bomb going off -- caution, graphic

Unfarkingreal. Watching that video feels like reliving 9/11 for this native New Yorker... my heart goes out to the victims, families, and first responders...


Reliving 9/11 ... seriously? Am I going to be seeing footage of people hurling themselves from the burning finish line on the evening news? No, this is a tragic event, but we must keep it in perspective.
2013-04-15 05:31:03 PM  
2 votes:
Video from finish line of bomb going off -- caution, graphic

Unfarkingreal. Watching that video feels like reliving 9/11 for this native New Yorker... my heart goes out to the victims, families, and first responders...
2013-04-15 05:26:27 PM  
2 votes:
2013-04-15 05:24:38 PM  
2 votes:
I can hear the helicopters from here and the police/fire/EMT sirens.
2013-04-15 05:22:43 PM  
2 votes:
I've blown up enough shiat to recognize an amateur explode-y builder. I'm putting my money on a nut (or a very small group of nuts), probably domestic. The fact that it's tax day seems to be a coincidence rather than a motivation, I'm looking more at large groups of people in a small area.

/Yes I realize I'll look like an ass if I'm wrong
//Joke is on all of you, I'm already an ass
2013-04-15 05:15:53 PM  
2 votes:

someonelse: wambu: Brick-House: Has the WH blamed Bush yet?

They haven't yet awakened Obama to tell him, so look for the Bush-blame later in the day.

What the hell is wrong with you?


Same thing wrong with the "It's got to be right-wing gun nuts" crowd.
2013-04-15 05:13:50 PM  
2 votes:

Communist_Manifesto: I'm honestly surprised things like this don't happen in the US more often. We are a very large nation with a ton of enemies both internal and external. Add in the fact that if you want to detonate a bomb somewhere there isn't a whole lot stopping you from acquiring the materials and doing it. Hopefully this is the typical american loner/psycho/mass-murderer and not a prequel to some sort of large sustained terror campaign funded/coordinated by some sort of radical group in our biggest cities.


I'm not really surprised it doesn't happen more often. For all of our American bluster, most of us would rather hash things out with angry words on a message board than actually really for real initiate violence against each other. Even the herpiest and derpiest among us recognize that real freedom is calling someone an asshole, them calling you a dickhead, and then going home and having dinner with the wife and kids.
2013-04-15 05:08:10 PM  
2 votes:
I'm honestly surprised things like this don't happen in the US more often. We are a very large nation with a ton of enemies both internal and external. Add in the fact that if you want to detonate a bomb somewhere there isn't a whole lot stopping you from acquiring the materials and doing it. Hopefully this is the typical american loner/psycho/mass-murderer and not a prequel to some sort of large sustained terror campaign funded/coordinated by some sort of radical group in our biggest cities.
2013-04-15 05:03:12 PM  
2 votes:

Nadie_AZ: sheep snorter: Ring leaders to be rounded up for this domestic terrorism by the TeaParty:
Limbaugh
Beck
Koch bros
Bachmann
And the rest.

/Its time to clean house and send them to Gitmo.

How can anyone say who did what. While I don't agree with these people or their policies, I'm not ready to sacrifice liberty for something something maybe sorta looks like security.


Because a bombing related to a live sporting event like the Olympics on Tax Day positively reeks of domestic right wing terrorism
2013-04-15 04:57:17 PM  
2 votes:

vpb: That was an oddly directional explosion, almost like a shaped charge.


Just looks like the package was up against a building, so it was all forced outward towards the crowd.
2013-04-15 04:56:48 PM  
2 votes:

Drew: Also folks - be aware that at this stage in the news cycle pretty much no one knows anything, and 90% of everything's gonna be issued a correction later by MSM.  That said it still helps to know what's going on now


You should write a book explaining how this works!

/oh, wait...
2013-04-15 04:56:45 PM  
2 votes:
Much appreciation to the mods and Drew for getting this up and running. Sincerest condolences and best wishes to family and friends of those present during the explosions.
2013-04-15 04:34:47 PM  
2 votes:
Any idea what country we will be invading next week?

/remember, they hate us for our freedoms.
2013-04-16 03:51:20 AM  
1 votes:

Gobobo: Why the hell would Al Qaeda bomb a marathon in Boston? What is the political motivation for bombing a recreation venue (when is running violent, for fark sake?) and not a bank or at least a symbol like a football or baseball game? You'd make a much bigger impact in a full stadium.

It has to be a wackjob, or nutjob, loony tunes mad head who's now back in his hut and mumbling incoherently to himself about some perceived slight that occurred in 1976.

As to why the police haven't released any tapes; I think they know who it is and want him safely in jail, or they can't clearly identify him because the crowds were too big and don't want lynch mobs out on the streets.


We don't know the motivation, but the venue was obviously chosen because people would be there, and because cameras would be there.
2013-04-16 03:33:20 AM  
1 votes:

Radioactive Ass: I mean that the law was passed too quickly and with little consideration to what it actually meant


Are we talking about the Patriot Act or the ACA here? If I recall, the ACA debate started in June 2009 and was finally signed into law in March of 2010. To put that into perspective, the Constitutional Convention first met on May 25, 1787, and approved the final document four months later on September 17.

I personally believe that the ACA's lengthy period of "debate" is what caused quite a bit of weakening of many provisions within it, as well as amendments which were basically BJ's to medical equipment and service suppliers.
2013-04-16 02:53:51 AM  
1 votes:

Radioactive Ass: Valacirca: ....Did this guy seriouslyjust attempt to label the Holocaust museum shooter as left-leaning?

He was a truther. That demographic has plenty of people from both sides of the spectrum and none of them are rational. For example the Fark famous picture of 2 concrete pavers and rabbit wire to replicate the towers was originally posted on Democratic Underground.



What people tend to confuse is terrorists/crazy people who belong to one political idealogy or another, but DON'T act based on political beliefs, with terrorists who DO have political motivations behind their attacks. McVeigh was absolutely a right wing terrorist. The guy that shot Giffords and the Newtwon school shooter were both just lunatics. The fact that they identified more with right or left politics was inconsequential to their crimes.

There has been an incredible amount of violent rhetoric on the right ever since Obama was elected, so it's natural to speculate that one of them is going to eventually act out on those violent threats. But it's also just as likely that some nutjob who thinks he's in a relationship with an actress on TV will act out and blow shiat up when he discovers she's "cheating" on him, or that it's Muslim terrorists again, or that it's some group that we've never heard of.
2013-04-16 02:40:47 AM  
1 votes:

Valacirca: ....Did this guy seriouslyjust attempt to label the Holocaust museum shooter as left-leaning?


He was a truther. That demographic has plenty of people from both sides of the spectrum and none of them are rational. For example the Fark famous picture of 2 concrete pavers and rabbit wire to replicate the towers was originally posted on Democratic Underground.
2013-04-16 02:22:43 AM  
1 votes:

RatMaster999: rynthetyn: RatMaster999: Uranus Is Huge!: My money is on some creepy, loner, white guy that hates the govenrment. I really hope it's not a Muslim. At least we'd have a good shot at attacking the correct country. Best case scenario? North Korea claim responsibility...and is telling the truth. I won't hold my breath.

I'm kinda  hoping that's the case.  Even if just to point out that not all Muslims are evil, terroristic sonsabiatches.

Plus, if it is just one guy, the chances of him getting caught seem somewhat higher than if he's got a support network behind him.

I hope it's a loner white guy, too many people of Middle Eastern and South Asian ancestry are going to have a terrible time otherwise.

I'm rather fearful that there's going to be a whole lot of angry stupid unleashed on people of non-white ethnicities using this as justification.  I really hope I'm wrong about it happening.


I really hope that we're wrong on that. I remember back after 9/11 my one aunt and uncle were really worried about my aunt's Jordanian cousins because they were studying at Embry Riddle (where some of the hijackers were enrollment). I think they pretended to be Mexican for quite a while.

My sister is dating an Indian guy, and given how people can't tell the difference between different brown people I hope he doesn't have trouble. For that matter, my sister-in-law is Spanish and Brazilian with some sort of North African ancestry mixed in there by way of her Spanish side, and looks to be of a sort of indeterminate ethnicity that doesn't look 100% white, and given witch hunts she could be looked on with suspicion. And that's not even going into the friends I have who are actually Muslim.
2013-04-16 02:21:20 AM  
1 votes:

Cobataiwan: I also notice that everyone seems to "forget" the left wing bombers our country has seen. Those OWS guys that wanted to take down a bridge. The guy who flew into an IRS building who you all assumed was a right winger but his writings all quoted the Communist Manifesto. The shooters at holocaust museum, the environmental nuts, discovery channel shooter etc.


....Did this guy  seriouslyjust attempt to label the Holocaust museum shooter as left-leaning?
2013-04-16 02:07:39 AM  
1 votes:

rynthetyn: RatMaster999: Uranus Is Huge!: My money is on some creepy, loner, white guy that hates the govenrment. I really hope it's not a Muslim. At least we'd have a good shot at attacking the correct country. Best case scenario? North Korea claim responsibility...and is telling the truth. I won't hold my breath.

I'm kinda  hoping that's the case.  Even if just to point out that not all Muslims are evil, terroristic sonsabiatches.

Plus, if it is just one guy, the chances of him getting caught seem somewhat higher than if he's got a support network behind him.

I hope it's a loner white guy, too many people of Middle Eastern and South Asian ancestry are going to have a terrible time otherwise.


I'm rather fearful that there's going to be a whole lot of angry stupid unleashed on people of non-white ethnicities using this as justification.  I really hope I'm wrong about it happening.
2013-04-16 02:04:43 AM  
1 votes:

The All-Powerful Atheismo: I'm not new to this rodeo.  I actually thought NBC was better on 9-11


NBC was quite good.  WNJN (the only broadcast station I could pick up at the time) lost its broadcast tower on 11 Sept, so they carried NBC's coverage for days afterward.
2013-04-16 02:00:06 AM  
1 votes:

ozarkmatt: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Even Fox is being more fair than that. (I feel dirty)

You remind me of my roommate on 9-11, hard core hippy, went to college in the late 60s / early 70's. He would fit in with the farker lefties here. By mid-day on that Tuesday, even he said we had to watch Fox, they were the only ones that actually gave information and also used commentators from all across the political spectrum. He also used the "felt dirty" line (although I think it was "I feel like an asshole") but CNN became a non-starter for him.


I'm not new to this rodeo.  I actually thought NBC was better on 9-11, but anyway... for normal everyday reporting, Fox is more biased than my cat is about that little jingly toy that is full of catnip.  This time however, as on some other occasions, CNN is full of shiat.
2013-04-16 01:58:23 AM  
1 votes:

xcv: The UN is writing up a strongly worded letter that calls for the US to exercise restraint in pursuing justice, and for both sides to avoid perpetuating the cycle of violence.


It's a shame stupidity isn't physically painful.
2013-04-16 01:45:11 AM  
1 votes:

Void_Beavis: shower_in_my_socks: mccallcl: Maybe you're too young to remember, but 9/11 was a shiatshow, exactly because everybody held hands and had a circlejerk instead of demanding answers.


AMEN. We should be mad as hell at the bomber and at whoever was asleep at the wheel security-wise. The minute the people start "coming together" and singing Cumbaya, the government walks all over us. 9/11 got us the Patriot Act and two farking wars, all because we were "united."

Agreed. I want to know exactly the motherfarker who did this, even if it takes years of tireless painstakingly hard detective work. And I want to know exactly the fat cocksucker who was asleep at the wheel where people were stacked 20 deep in a major metropolitan area during a major event at a highly visible area for that event not watching the area for unattended bags. That ducking area should have been crawling with plain clothes cops and bomb sniffing dogs. Who's the idiot in charge of securing this shiatstorm?


Believe it or not, a significant portion of security policy, especially at the federal level, is reactive and based on previous, actually-occurred incidents.  Other than general rules of thumb, most security policies aren't based on conjured up hypotheticals, but rather are attempts to prevent similar events that already occurred at some point.

As an example: car stops/barriers separating traffic from federal buildings/courthouses/consulates/etc, used to be large concrete blocks about the size of a car, sometimes with a tree in the middle.  Then a terrorist parked a car, filled with explosives, beside one of the car stop barriers outside a US consulate.  The explosion acted like a shape charge and projected the car barrier, like a giant bullet, into the consulate building.  Afterwards, all car stop barriers were removed and replaced with the waist-high poles you now see everywhere.
2013-04-16 01:44:01 AM  
1 votes:
I've been lurking these threads for awhile now, and I have to say that the level of partisan crap pushed by people on all sides is farking sickening.

You assholes make me hope for a new plague.

Jesus farking Christ, try to go a few hours without blaming all your troubles on the other side of the spectrum.

I know you're desperate to interpret tragedy in a way that makes sense in your worldview. That could be forgiven as being kind of sad but understandable. But your absolute inability to recognize your desperation and willingness to do so is farking pathetic.
2013-04-16 01:36:43 AM  
1 votes:

Void_Beavis: thiefofdreams: Void_Beavis: Samwise Gamgee: Void_Beavis:
words

Look we can either be a free people or a police state. It seems that no matter which we are people biatch. Funny how that works. This event will be used as a catalyst for both extremes. I don't like it much that it will, but it will. You are playing directly into that.

Maybe you can direct as much dislike as you have toward the security detail, that you can direct the next Boston Marathon? Maybe just maybe you can use your energy to start a charity to help those in need due to the bomb. You know, instead of sitting on here saying how it is not a conspiracy while it is a conspiracy.

Except you've not only missed my point, but...

You know what. Screw it. I've sufficiently explained my position. Secure the areas with the highest crowd density. I'm sorry you people think its like a city-wide lockdown when ive said nothing of the sort but hey, who needs reading comprehension anyway.


How do you purpose they sweep 26 miles of course with people on it for over 8 hours through the heart of a busy city?

I am sorry but you are not making and sense and attacking the procedure, no the actual terrorist in this case.

The brave EMTs, LEOs, and volunteers that ran toward those bombs to help people deserve more respect than you sitting on here pounding out stupidity with your cheeto stained fingers. You are mocking their security, well you go do better then.

Start by explaining what I asked. How do you secure most of Boston during the marathon for over 8 hours with 10s of thousands of people there? This was not an auditorium or a stadium it was open streets.

Stadiums have rules about what you can and cannot have on their grounds. They can kick you out for disobeying the rules. Comparing securing 26 miles of open road to a privately owned stadium is completely asinine and that is why you are being mocked.

So show me the plan to secure these marathons using dogs and police, please. Because it seems like you should be in charge of the investigation.
2013-04-16 01:33:22 AM  
1 votes:

Let's have a clear, thorough investigation to absolutely ensure that we have the correct people responsible for this. Because...

cairoscene.com


I don't care about skin color, religion, or whatever. We should not only punish those responsible but eradicate their ideologies completely.
2013-04-16 01:33:09 AM  
1 votes:
While this is not a time for partisan politics, it is instructive to consider the level of over-reaction that would be going on right now if Bush were still president.
2013-04-16 01:32:17 AM  
1 votes:

Bennie Crabtree: Thank you Farkers. I had a lot of friends asking where to get information about the bombings and I directed them to your threads on the mainpage. This website is fantastic.

Boston must be a very scary palce to be right now. If the library was in fact bombed as well, then who knows what else is rigged. That would make the perpetrator an unpredictable Gotham City style villain. Yikes!


The library was an incidental fire that hurt no one.  No explosive device was used there. ABC says that it was not a bomb, just a random thing.  A city the size of Boston is going to have fires and stuff everyday.
2013-04-16 01:26:53 AM  
1 votes:

Void_Beavis: During a marathon of this size, the crowd density will be thickest at the starting point, as well as the finish line. Lock down those areas at least. Then work from there. Removing trash cans and placing receptacles in areas which are far from crowds is part of that common sense standard protocol. Having dogs present working through those crowds in those areas searching for unattended packages is another common sense standard protocol. From all indications, neither of these things were performed at this event. If true, it's irresponsible.

Now I'm sure you're trolling, so this will be my last response to your idiocy. Please just shut the fark up, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.


 You're still missing the point that no security can ever be enough for this sort of thing. And now you're talking about sniffing dogs wandering through streets covered in litter because there are no trash cans. Dogs like to sniff random trash. There are thousands of people about. You can't honestly thing a couple of 'bomb sniffing dogs' are going to rule out this sort of tragedy. Ever known a dog that DIDN'T sniff a trash can?

 And if you think that I'm 'trolling' because I'm arguing with your idiocy, then, well... that's just another subject you don't know anything about.

 /Not the one calling for security to be 'held accountable' as if they were the murderers
2013-04-16 01:25:12 AM  
1 votes:

RatMaster999: Uranus Is Huge!: My money is on some creepy, loner, white guy that hates the govenrment. I really hope it's not a Muslim. At least we'd have a good shot at attacking the correct country. Best case scenario? North Korea claim responsibility...and is telling the truth. I won't hold my breath.

I'm kinda  hoping that's the case.  Even if just to point out that not all Muslims are evil, terroristic sonsabiatches.

Plus, if it is just one guy, the chances of him getting caught seem somewhat higher than if he's got a support network behind him.


I hope it's a loner white guy, too many people of Middle Eastern and South Asian ancestry are going to have a terrible time otherwise.
2013-04-16 01:24:49 AM  
1 votes:
Geez,  quoting a post from a colleague on Facebook: "Boston Marathon Harlem Shake".

Some people...
2013-04-16 01:21:13 AM  
1 votes:
Annnnnnnd now a US Blackhawk helicopter just crashed near the North Korean border.  Not exactly a slow news day.
2013-04-16 01:20:04 AM  
1 votes:

Uranus Is Huge!: My money is on some creepy, loner, white guy that hates the govenrment. I really hope it's not a Muslim. At least we'd have a good shot at attacking the correct country. Best case scenario? North Korea claim responsibility...and is telling the truth. I won't hold my breath.


I'm kinda  hoping that's the case.  Even if just to point out that not all Muslims are evil, terroristic sonsabiatches.

Plus, if it is just one guy, the chances of him getting caught seem somewhat higher than if he's got a support network behind him.
2013-04-16 01:17:11 AM  
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: That he's not only alive and well, but also got up and finished the race, is the only warm fuzzy feeling today has given me.


Cowboy Hat guy made my day.
2013-04-16 01:16:47 AM  
1 votes:

InmanRoshi: Xcott: InmanRoshi: The entire purpose of an act of political terrorism is to make a statement.   Not making the statement to tie it to your politics kinda defeats the purpose.

I see your logic and raise you the Atlanta Olympic bombing.  Eric Lee Rudolph didn't issue any statement claiming credit, and it was only tied to him one or two years later.  His choice of target didn't seem to send a clear political message about anything, and it was anyone's guess why some dude bombed the Olympics.

If you have a subculture like the 90s militia subculture or white nationalists, a terrorist act may simply be an attack on the USA, and only intended to have symbolic meaning to other members of the subculture, not for the general public.  The OK city bombing was intended to be a signal for other militia types to rise up and revolt against the USA, for example.

I think a lone nutter like Rudolph has to stay quiet because there is no one else to advance the cause if he's caught.     If it's a multi-national, muti-facetied organized  political organization like Al Qaeda, I imagine they're getting in front of cameras as soon as possible.   Didn't they do precisely that with 9/11?    The only plausible way I could see this being an international political network is if it's a group that wants to keep their association to themselves (see Pakistani ISI)


Rudolph wasn't a lone nutter, he was affiliated with Army of God. It's just that Army of God was more interested in casualties than with credit and thus he and the rest of them kept their mouths shut.
2013-04-16 01:16:15 AM  
1 votes:

Cobataiwan: Xcott: InmanRoshi: The entire purpose of an act of political terrorism is to make a statement.   Not making the statement to tie it to your politics kinda defeats the purpose.

I see your logic and raise you the Atlanta Olympic bombing.  Eric Lee Rudolph didn't issue any statement claiming credit, and it was only tied to him one or two years later.  His choice of target didn't seem to send a clear political message about anything, and it was anyone's guess why some dude bombed the Olympics.

If you have a subculture like the 90s militia subculture or white nationalists, a terrorist act may simply be an attack on the USA, and only intended to have symbolic meaning to other members of the subculture, not for the general public.  The OK city bombing was intended to be a signal for other militia types to rise up and revolt against the USA, for example.

There was the kid setting pipe bombs off in mail boxes. He wanted to create a smiley face pattern on the maps in the papers.

I also notice that everyone seems to "forget" the left wing bombers our country has seen. Those OWS guys that wanted to take down a bridge. The guy who flew into an IRS building who you all assumed was a right winger but his writings all quoted the Communist Manifesto. The shooters at holocaust museum, the environmental nuts, discovery channel shooter etc.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/of_massacres_med ia _myths_iwxYulFJ9jKcrBTk50kpOL


Yes, the NY Post. The only place where you can find more inaccuracies than FOX News.
2013-04-16 01:15:53 AM  
1 votes:

Void_Beavis: Samwise Gamgee: Void_Beavis:
words


Look we can either be a free people or a police state. It seems that no matter which we are people biatch. Funny how that works. This event will be used as a catalyst for both extremes. I don't like it much that it will, but it will. You are playing directly into that.

Maybe you can direct as much dislike as you have toward the security detail, that you can direct the next Boston Marathon? Maybe just maybe you can use your energy to start a charity to help those in need due to the bomb. You know, instead of sitting on here saying how it is not a conspiracy while it is a conspiracy.
2013-04-16 01:15:27 AM  
1 votes:

Cobataiwan: Dr.Zom: Jesus. Just last month.

Domestic terrorism: Study shows sharp rise in extremist 'patriot' groups
Researchers compare this rise in activity to that just before the Oklahoma City bombing

March 06, 2013

http://www.firerescue1.com/homeland-security/articles/1414784-Domest ic -terrorism-Study-shows-sharp-rise-in-extremist-patriot-groups/

Srsly, the chances are that this is Islamic terrorism. Check bombings world wide. 90% of them are from Islamic terrorists. You guys keep hoping and hoping. Its quite sick. Who knows maybe your little fantasy will come true this time.


It could easily be Islamic terrorism. They love their symbolic dates. I'm sure April 15, Tax Day, Patriot Day, and the day Lincoln died are all symbolic events in Islamic faith. And Boston, of course, everyone remembers when the heretics were thrown in the harbor by the Caliphate. And April 19th is the date of the actual Battles of Lexington and Concord, the real shot heard round the world, the first battle in the American Revolution, another known Muslim holiday. But really, who knows where Lexington and Concord are today.
2013-04-16 01:14:10 AM  
1 votes:

impaler: Christ, Void_Beavis, is an idiot.


How can he be an idiot when he clearly knows exactly who to blame in this situation? Anyone who knows how to prevent a spontaneous act of terror and destruction can not just be called an
idiot. Give the man his respect! He and he alone is positive he knows how to prevent these sort of incidents, and he's nice enough to share that knowledge with us Internetters instead of applying his talent as an FBI/DoD/DHS agent.

A true patriot!
2013-04-16 01:12:59 AM  
1 votes:

stainpouch: If the steel bearings/balls come from a claymore, they'll know.  I think they were claymores, too.


If you had ever actually detonated a claymore and you watched the video of the bombs report and smoke signature you would know it was not a claymore. Or claymores.
2013-04-16 01:12:45 AM  
1 votes:
Why would there be garbage cans near an area where  many people gathered and at a place and time where the participants may desire liquid refreshment?  Craziness! Craziness and incompetence!  And don't get me started on people even gathering for any length of time anywhere.  The police are lax in their duties should they not just huck tear gas anywhere that more than 5 people are congregating on the Eastern seaboard.  Maybe they should huck a bomb dog, followed by tear gas.
2013-04-16 01:05:20 AM  
1 votes:

Samwise Gamgee: Void_Beavis:
Then why wasn't the trash can removed prior to the race? Again, this sort of thing isn't new.

So much of this leads me to believe proper security measures weren't carried out for this event. From several eyewitness accounts saying there was no dog presence to the lax security around removing trash cans...

 Because if they had removed the trash cans, there'd be farking trash everywhere.

 Look, dude, you're viewing this incident with the wisdom of hindsight. OF COURSE 'they' could have done this or that which might have prevented things. But the Boston Marathon isn't the only time or place where large groups congregate and could be the victims of shrapnel bombs. Youcan't lock down every aspect of human endeavor. If they took every security precaution you now wish they had taken, bombs would probably have gone off somewhere else instead.

 Your statement that they should have removed the trash cans for a marathon makes as much sense as the TSA confiscating nail clippers and water bottles. They are both vain attempts to identify security failures in hindsight and are frankly both overreactions.

 You feel that a bad thing happened, and you're out for blood, looking to blame someone. Blame whoever planted those farking bombs, because they're responsible. Not the poor saps who were tasked with trying to secure a 26 mile long perimeter playing host to thousands of people.

 There is no way to stop the sort of thing that happened today. Just this past year alone - the Aurora movie theater massacre; the Newton elementary school shootings. Are you going to call for the heads of the movie theater ushers and the one rent-a-cop on duty at the elementary school, too, for their gross security failures?

 The best you can do is strive to create a world in which people just don't want to do this sort of thing. It's not as easy and quick as 'removing trash cans' but I think you'll find that in the end, nothing else will farking work.


THIS X 1000

Christ, Void_Beavis, is an idiot.
2013-04-16 12:57:40 AM  
1 votes:
This thread needs some help...

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And how about an arms race.
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2013-04-16 12:57:34 AM  
1 votes:

Bonanza Jellybean: [i.imgur.com image 500x467]

*sigh*


*MEH*

Don't give 12 year old internet connectivity.  They'll either broadcast their youthful ignorance or naughty parts.
2013-04-16 12:55:05 AM  
1 votes:

draa: Void_Beavis: TalenLee: Still three dead, still hundred-ish injured, right? I'm not missing some detail that makes this act somehow immensely more monstrous than it was when first it broke?

Seriously?

Agreed. That's monstrous enough for most. I wish the best for all those involved... except the asshole who did it that is. Hopefully he got plowed by a semi right after making his escape.


No. He/She needs to be found and held accountable. On the way to the cell there will be many stairs and low door ways. Death by semi is too easy.
2013-04-16 12:53:45 AM  
1 votes:

Bennie Crabtree: Thank you Farkers. I had a lot of friends asking where to get information about the bombings and I directed them to your threads on the mainpage. This website is fantastic.

Boston must be a very scary palce to be right now. If the library was in fact bombed as well, then who knows what else is rigged. That would make the perpetrator an unpredictable Gotham City style villain. Yikes!


Tonight you're all gonna be part of a social experiment. Through the magic of diesel fuel and ammonium nitrate, I'm ready right now to blow you all sky high. Anyone attempts to get off the hospital or [Insert name of] the police station, you all die. Each of you has a remote... to blow up the other building. At midnight, I blow you all up. If, however, one of you presses the button, I'll let that boat live. So, who's it going to be: Boston's finest, or the sweet and innocent civilians? You choose... oh, and you might want to decide quickly, because the people on the other boat might not be so noble.
2013-04-16 12:53:37 AM  
1 votes:
The sadness I feel is less the atrocity itself and more with the Society that consciously breeds the soul-less; those chained by injustice, inequality, depraved indifference and rabid nihilism, for whom the only gratification and connection to the world without is the pain and suffering of others.  Who are we to condemn violence when we blindly spawn and support those who espouse the tenets of "might and money make right"?  The people who will change the world are not those who make grand speeches, laws or decrees on how to live your life; more the individual that looks inside and loves themselves, expressing this same love to their family, and every single person they meet.  The ones who care less for themselves, more for their fellows, and hope that through their actions, others will do the same.  Where position in society is less important than commitment to the general well-being of everyone.  Where money and power mean nothing compared to bread and education; where the thoughtful consideration of every action yields a benefit for all.  Then, and only then, will we live in a society where events like Boston are not simply suppressed, but the mere idea of such a thing is never even conceived.
2013-04-16 12:52:47 AM  
1 votes:
Jesus. Just last month.

Domestic terrorism: Study shows sharp rise in extremist 'patriot' groups
Researchers compare this rise in activity to that just before the Oklahoma City bombing

March 06, 2013

http://www.firerescue1.com/homeland-security/articles/1414784-Domest ic -terrorism-Study-shows-sharp-rise-in-extremist-patriot-groups/
2013-04-16 12:52:11 AM  
1 votes:

Jaykzo: The internet has solved this case long before the MSM or the FBI ever will, those know-nothing dummies

[i.imgur.com image 608x612]


2 and 6 are both even numbers.  EVEN.  This is somebody getting even.  Another term for getting even is payback.  Who starred in payback?  Mel Gibson.  Half of 26 is 13.  What was Mel Gibson in 13 years ago?  The Patriot.  Patriot Day.

This is payback for Mel Gibson's wife not blowing him in the hot tub.  Study it out.
2013-04-16 12:49:58 AM  
1 votes:

PunGent: Red Shirt Blues: Bonanza Jellybean: [i.imgur.com image 500x467]

*sigh*

That.....can't be real. No way. Impossible.

You, like me, live in the U.S.

19 percent of our fellow citizens think the sun revolves around the earth.

However, only 4 percent think lizard people secretly run everything, so we got that going for us.

(really...look it up)


dammitsomuch
2013-04-16 12:48:35 AM  
1 votes:

Uranus Is Huge!: SuperNinjaToad: Uranus Is Huge!: My money is on some creepy, loner, white guy that hates the govenrment. I really hope it's not a Muslim. At least we'd have a good shot at attacking the correct country. Best case scenario? North Korea claim responsibility...and is telling the truth. I won't hold my breath.

so based on your 'wish' I am guessing you're a Muslim who hates Koreans? huh?
.......otherwise I don't quote get what exactly you're saying or trying to convey.

1) My guess, based on nothing but other bombings in US history, is that the perpetrator will be a white guy.

2) If it turns out to be a product of   muslims

(your race/religion of choice) terrorism, I will be extra sad, given this country's past reactions when muslims  (your race/religion of choice)  are involved.

3) I half-jokingly stated that if this event leads to war, it might as well be with a country begging for a smack down - North Korea.

Now go bunch up your panties around around another random post out of the two thousand in the thread.


FTFY..
2013-04-16 12:48:23 AM  
1 votes:

ongbok: Jaykzo: The internet has solved this case long before the MSM or the FBI ever will, those know-nothing dummies

[i.imgur.com image 608x612]

You shouldn't blacked out the chicks name. That type of crazy needs to be known to everybody and put out on world wide display.


And she looks cute.
2013-04-16 12:47:26 AM  
1 votes:

ongbok: Jaykzo: The internet has solved this case long before the MSM or the FBI ever will, those know-nothing dummies

[i.imgur.com image 608x612]

You shouldn't blacked out the chicks name. That type of crazy needs to be known to everybody and put out on world wide display.


What this brother said.
2013-04-16 12:46:29 AM  
1 votes:

Jaykzo: The internet has solved this case long before the MSM or the FBI ever will, those know-nothing dummies

[i.imgur.com image 608x612]


You shouldn't blacked out the chicks name. That type of crazy needs to be known to everybody and put out on world wide display.
2013-04-16 12:45:47 AM  
1 votes:

Cobataiwan: InmanRoshi: Samwise Gamgee: Not saying it was a claymore, but even if it was, that doesn't mean it was military in origin. Claymores have been around for over 100 years and they're not hard to make. <b> Could be someone's homebrewed equivalent.</b>

I'm not getting into the culprit's motivation, but I cant help but think that if someone had some real ballistics and explosives training, though the US military or AQ or otherwise, they could have created something that could do more damage than 3 fatalities after being detonated in a gigantic crowd. This looks like some sort of Eric Murdock cooked-it-up-in-my-own-backyard-using-teh-intrawebbings bullshiat.

Times Square car bomb did not detonate either. Their best guys are not here but in Syria. These are C Team volunteers.


The Times Square Bombing was attempted by someone who had received formal training in Pakistan, and it was planned and financed by people in Pakistan.  It was an absolutely massive, complicated van bomb that would have wiped out city blocks that would have been a 9/11 caliber event if executed.  That's more Al Qaueda style to me    This was likely a rooty poot pipe bomb that did an incredible amount of damage mostly because of the location and timing.  Everyone acts like the fact that ball bearings are involved shows this guy has some sort of formal training.  All it shows to me is he's at least watched Swordfish or Jackass.   I know that Claymores use ball bearings and I'm not the least bit curious about making detonating devices.   Wherever deep dark corners of the internet you can go to find out how to make a backyard pipe-bomb there's probably some pretty lively discussions going on about what spray material to pack it with.
2013-04-16 12:42:13 AM  
1 votes:
Giltric: Guy was acting suspicious after the bombing and a group of people tackled him....supposedly this is the "saudi national" they were talking about earlier and he is cooperating with authorities

cameroncrazy1984: I've seen muslims shout allah ackbar when enemies have died and when compatriots have died. There are many reasons to say it, I wonder if this was the suspicious activity they are talking about, dude was sending an SOS to God and caught a beatdown.

He was running away from the explosion. Totally suspicious.

FormlessOne: "Running while Saudi" - clearly, a reason for at least one clueless bigot to tackle him. Guy's cooperating with the cops, has denied any involvement, and cops haven't found a shred of evidence to link him to anything. The only "suspicious activity" was having some clueless bigot tackle him while claiming "suspicious activity" as justification.

JungleBoogie: Part of PBS's Operation Homecoming: a story of an IED blast, an Iraqi and American soldier screaming for him to stop running.

(By the way, "Taking Chance" is part of this series.)

cameroncrazy1984: Well see, and here's where you might be missing the obvious here but...this isn't Iraq and he wasn't an Iraqi?



The point I was trying to make was that running from danger is a natural reaction, even if one is brown. And the link was meant to underscore that point in a poignant, memorable fashion.

You have my sincerest apologies for befuddling you.
2013-04-16 12:35:25 AM  
1 votes:

mccallcl: dave2198: This may come as a shock to you, but authorities often hold evidence that they don't share with other people.

Thanks for the tip, but I don't give a shiat. My fellow Americans and I have a right to know everything about this immediately. It's a deadly terror attack, not a minor arrested for PI in the local news blotter. I don't want to find out the day after tomorrow, once the authorities have gotten a chance to circle up and get their stories straight. I want the information as it becomes available. My tax dollars paid for the equipment we're supposedly using to monitor these groups, and the staff that's supposed to keep me safe from terror. Somebody farked up somewhere (probably several somebodies). I want their names, so I can be sure they are fired.

I also want the names of any and all suspects before they have a chance to be escorted out of the country on private planes because their families are connected, or before they are anonymously executed because their identities would be an embarrassment to someone important. I also don't want the same truther bullshiat as last time, fed in part by the bizarre timing of information released in the wake of 9/11.

We have a right to know, and "part of an ongoing investigation" or not, I demand the raw truth. We don't hold back evidence when a bank is robbed, we put the perps on blast.


We have a right to know up until the point where telling us things hampers the investigation.  If telling us everything is going to give some suspects a head start on running away or otherwise make the perps harder to catch, then I would rather the government shut up and catch some people.  Crimeny, dude, let the cops do their thing.
2013-04-16 12:34:19 AM  
1 votes:
AlHarris31:   I bet there will be dogs walking through the lots at all major sporting games from now on.

I like dags.
2013-04-16 12:33:30 AM  
1 votes:

SuperNinjaToad: Uranus Is Huge!: My money is on some creepy, loner, white guy that hates the govenrment. I really hope it's not a Muslim. At least we'd have a good shot at attacking the correct country. Best case scenario? North Korea claim responsibility...and is telling the truth. I won't hold my breath.

so based on your 'wish' I am guessing you're a Muslim who hates Koreans? huh?
.......otherwise I don't quote get what exactly you're saying or trying to convey.


1) My guess, based on nothing but other bombings in US history, is that the perpetrator will be a white guy.

2) If it turns out to be a product of Islamic terrorism, I will be extra sad, given this country's past reactions when Muslims are involved.

3) I half-jokingly stated that if this event leads to war, it might as well be with a country begging for a smack down - North Korea.

Now go bunch up your panties around around another random post out of the two thousand in the thread.
2013-04-16 12:31:53 AM  
1 votes:

Void_Beavis: shower_in_my_socks: mccallcl: Maybe you're too young to remember, but 9/11 was a shiatshow, exactly because everybody held hands and had a circlejerk instead of demanding answers.


AMEN. We should be mad as hell at the bomber and at whoever was asleep at the wheel security-wise. The minute the people start "coming together" and singing Cumbaya, the government walks all over us. 9/11 got us the Patriot Act and two farking wars, all because we were "united."

Agreed. I want to know exactly the motherfarker who did this, even if it takes years of tireless painstakingly hard detective work. And I want to know exactly the fat cocksucker who was asleep at the wheel where people were stacked 20 deep in a major metropolitan area during a major event at a highly visible area for that event not watching the area for unattended bags. That ducking area should have been crawling with plain clothes cops and bomb sniffing dogs. Who's the idiot in charge of securing this shiatstorm?


I had heard that one of the explosions looked like it went off in a trash can.  If so, thats a lot harder to detect than a bag sitting there for a few hours.  Some dude can look like hes throwing away some trash and walk away.  Even so, this was a security failure.  Look for many more cops and dogs at all sporting events and gatherings.  I bet there will be dogs walking through the lots at all major sporting games from now on.
2013-04-16 12:30:13 AM  
1 votes:

PunGent: CygnusDarius: It was lost in the comments, so I'll post it again.

According to this source (link in spanish), former president of Mexico, Felipe Calderon (the one responsible for starting a direct military action against the drug cartels) was a spectator in the race. Maybe one of the Zetas (known for subtlety), wanted to kill him and cause enough mayhem to slip away.

If this were true, well, you guys wanted US troops in Mexico?.

I dunno...cartels usually bother with bombs?  Their MO seems more like "hire poor desperate kids, give them AK47s, and point them at the target.  Repeat as necessary."


They have used bombs in the past, and as you have pointed out, they could've hired out someone to be their scapegoat.
2013-04-16 12:25:10 AM  
1 votes:

CygnusDarius: It was lost in the comments, so I'll post it again.

According to this source (link in spanish), former president of Mexico, Felipe Calderon (the one responsible for starting a direct military action against the drug cartels) was a spectator in the race. Maybe one of the Zetas (known for subtlety), wanted to kill him and cause enough mayhem to slip away.

If this were true, well, you guys wanted US troops in Mexico?.


I dunno...cartels usually bother with bombs?  Their MO seems more like "hire poor desperate kids, give them AK47s, and point them at the target.  Repeat as necessary."
rka
2013-04-16 12:24:01 AM  
1 votes:

Void_Beavis: That ducking area should have been crawling with plain clothes cops and bomb sniffing dogs. Who's the idiot in charge of securing this shiatstorm?


You want them to have search checkpoints along an entire 26 mile marathon route? What side streets should they shut down to control access to downtown Boston? And for how long? It's not like this is POTUS coming through for 15 minutes. You can clamp down a small area for that. This is vastly different. You have people finishing this race over a stretched out 2-6hr time period with supporters coming and going as their friends/family approach the finish line.
2013-04-16 12:22:21 AM  
1 votes:

Samwise Gamgee: just stuck your stupid farking mouth.


And shut it while you're at it.
2013-04-16 12:21:26 AM  
1 votes:

impaler: Void_Beavis: Agreed. I want to know exactly the motherfarker who did this, even if it takes years of tireless painstakingly hard detective work. And I want to know exactly the fat cocksucker who was asleep at the wheel where people were stacked 20 deep in a major metropolitan area during a major event at a highly visible area for that event not watching the area for unattended bags.

Why doesn't everyone have 20/20!!!


Agreed. The bombs were in trash cans, I think.
2013-04-16 12:21:00 AM  
1 votes:

BuckTurgidson: Valacirca: mllacclc
I totally don't understand people who are complete, utter assholes about fairly random things.

The knowledge that no matter how many rightfully dismiss their obviously gratuitous provocation, there will always be a non-zero fraction of naive readers who will gratify them with a response.


WILL NOT!
2013-04-16 12:19:30 AM  
1 votes:

PerilousApricot: SamWaters: No death penalty in Massachusetts, life without the possibility of parole being the only punishment for first-degree murder.   The House twice defeated efforts to have it re-instated, one of the efforts to re-instated it was led by Governor Mitt Romney.

Am I the only person that thinks that life without the possibility of parole is much much worse than the death penalty?


no, killing is too easy and too quick.

life without parole is time. lots of time. and the only thing to look forward to is fresh fish fridays
2013-04-16 12:15:51 AM  
1 votes:

Samwise Gamgee: mccallcl:

There are a limited number of sites where bombs were placed. There are dozens (hundreds?) of people trained and available to review footage. There is no practical reason why a photo has not been released, or at least more information. When a child is abducted, we get more info than this and we get it sooner.

Newsflash: They're not concerned with providing you with info, dickwad. How much information you get from them has no bearing on how much info they're getting and reviewing. Think maybe they're too busy investi-farking-gating to keep you abreast of the latest haps?


He won't see this - he's either been banned, or is off sulking that others pulled him up on his rhetoric.  I'm thinking banned, judging by the number of his posts that got yanked.
2013-04-16 12:12:20 AM  
1 votes:
mccallcl:

There are a limited number of sites where bombs were placed. There are dozens (hundreds?) of people trained and available to review footage. There is no practical reason why a photo has not been released, or at least more information. When a child is abducted, we get more info than this and we get it sooner.

Newsflash: They're not concerned with providing you with info, dickwad. How much information you get from them has no bearing on how much info they're getting and reviewing. Think maybe they're too busy investi-farking-gating to keep you abreast of the latest haps?
2013-04-16 12:12:16 AM  
1 votes:

Void_Beavis: Agreed. I want to know exactly the motherfarker who did this, even if it takes years of tireless painstakingly hard detective work. And I want to know exactly the fat cocksucker who was asleep at the wheel where people were stacked 20 deep in a major metropolitan area during a major event at a highly visible area for that event not watching the area for unattended bags.


Why doesn't everyone have 20/20!!!
2013-04-16 12:11:28 AM  
1 votes:

SamWaters: No death penalty in Massachusetts, life without the possibility of parole being the only punishment for first-degree murder.   The House twice defeated efforts to have it re-instated, one of the efforts to re-instated it was led by Governor Mitt Romney.


Am I the only person that thinks that life without the possibility of parole is much much worse than the death penalty?
2013-04-16 12:09:57 AM  
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: mccallcl: Maybe you're too young to remember, but 9/11 was a shiatshow, exactly because everybody held hands and had a circlejerk instead of demanding answers.


AMEN. We should be mad as hell at the bomber and at whoever was asleep at the wheel security-wise. The minute the people start "coming together" and singing Cumbaya, the government walks all over us. 9/11 got us the Patriot Act and two farking wars, all because we were "united."


Agreed. I want to know exactly the motherfarker who did this, even if it takes years of tireless painstakingly hard detective work. And I want to know exactly the fat cocksucker who was asleep at the wheel where people were stacked 20 deep in a major metropolitan area during a major event at a highly visible area for that event not watching the area for unattended bags. That ducking area should have been crawling with plain clothes cops and bomb sniffing dogs. Who's the idiot in charge of securing this shiatstorm?
2013-04-16 12:09:17 AM  
1 votes:
What if it's something way out of left field? What if it's Saskatchewan declaring war on the United States? What if it's a terrorist attack by some obscure Australian organization that hates blue M&Ms? What if it's an angry ex-wife trying to kill her ex-husband and his new wife? What if it's a guy who watched too many movies and set off some bombs to divert attention from him while he burglarized an office? What if it's a protest against Lindsay Lohan getting off without jail time  again?

All I'm saying is that right now we don't know. It could be anyone, anything, any reason. It's too early to babble on and on about the villain(s) here. Let's worry about the victims for now. We'll catch the bad guys later, I'm sure.

And then we'll hang the bastards.
2013-04-16 12:05:10 AM  
1 votes:
mccallcl

I totally don't understand people who are complete, utter assholes about fairly random things.
2013-04-16 12:03:59 AM  
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: On the Saudi "suspect" - "Sources tell ABC he's a Saudi national on a student visa and his record has checked out clean"

Not sure what a record checking out as "clean" means.


He's not connected to any terror groups?.
2013-04-16 12:02:33 AM  
1 votes:
This could be an example of Al-Qaeda's evolving M.O.  There's lots of evidence that they're moving to a setup where individuals are encouraged to make their own bomb(s) and hit "soft targets," rather than the more centrally planned and executed style used during 9/11, for example.
2013-04-15 11:58:26 PM  
1 votes:
glad there's good leads and hopefully they'll find the shiatbag(s) responsible very soon.  love you boston.
2013-04-15 11:57:51 PM  
1 votes:
www.fbastard.com
2013-04-15 11:57:17 PM  
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: More info on the search going on at the Revere apartment building:



...and just like that, there's a report that the search of the apartment building is over and police are leaving. Sounds like another false alarm caused by a dummy who was acting suspiciously around cops.
2013-04-15 11:55:17 PM  
1 votes:
More info on the search going on at the Revere apartment building:

A law enforcement source tells Fox 25 that a large police presence at a home in Revere is related to the Boston Marathon bombings.

The source said that a suspicious driver was pulled over by Revere police after driving past the State Police barracks a number of times.

The driver reportedly had a "nervous demeanor."

The driver then led police, as well as the FBI, to a home in the area of Ocean Avenue and Beach Street.
2013-04-15 11:54:53 PM  
1 votes:

ongbok: Void_Beavis: ongbok: cameroncrazy1984: Giltric: Guy was acting suspicious after the bombing and a group of people tackled him....supposedly this is the "saudi national" they were talking about earlier and he is cooperating with authorities

I've seen muslims shout allah ackbar when enemies have died and when compatriots have died. There are many reasons to say it, I wonder if this was the suspicious activity they are talking about, dude was sending an SOS to God and caught a beatdown.

He was running away from the explosion. Totally suspicious.

If he was so innocent, why was he running away?

Hey man, if shiat is exploding all around you and people are getting their legs chopped off from underneath them what the fark would you do?

Walk away slowly and very cool looking. If I had a pair of sunglasses I would put them on as the carnage unfolded around me. Hopefully I would also be wearing a duster so the air current created by the blast would blow it open.


Since it involves explosions, this is obviously more of a Michael Bay kind of moment, so instead you look at the flag for three whole minutes, you get your war face, and start running.
2013-04-15 11:52:07 PM  
1 votes:

Void_Beavis: Hey man, if shiat is exploding all around you and people are getting their legs chopped off from underneath them what the fark would you do?


Turn around in a slow motion Michael Bay style motion, slowly take my sunglasses off and quip something like "now the real race starts".

Duh.
2013-04-15 11:51:20 PM  
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon: Two questions that must be forcibly taken from news anchors when they interview people about things like this:

"What was it like? What did you do?"

"It was scary. I shiat myself." I mean WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WAS LIKE?!?


Back in my Civil Air Patrol days, a TV reporter cornered me and asked "What is it like being a woman on a ground search team?" I answered "Just like being a man on a ground search team: I'm tired, I'm hungry, and I hurt." That kind of put an end to that line of questioning.

Then they put it on the air. In my mom's family's hometown. Where all my relatives got to see the sight of me looking like I'd had no sleep, covered with mud all down one side of my uniform, and clinging to a paper plate of lousy lasagna like it was the Holy Grail. (this was because I had in fact had no sleep, I'd slid on ice and fallen down a hill, and that godawful lasagna was the first food I'd had since a Snickers bar that pretended to be lunch)

All the facts they could be getting, and it comes down to "oh, how did you feeeel?" This might be relevant to the winner of a beauty contest or something, but a person out searching for a plane crash? Or people caught in a deadly explosion? Is that the best they can think of?
2013-04-15 11:50:56 PM  
1 votes:

gadian: I suppose some have started a count down until Obama calls this terrorism.


from the headline on news.google.com:

Chicago Tribune - 12 minutes agoTwo bombs ripped through the crowd at the finish line of the Boston Marathon on Monday, killing three people, maiming others and injuring more than 100 in what a White House official said would be treated as an "act of terror." It was the worst bombing on ...


you missed the countdown to zero by a few minutes.
2013-04-15 11:50:31 PM  
1 votes:

KarmicDisaster: cameroncrazy1984: s2s2s2: There was a local coach that was in communication with his runners. He said that they mentioned a lot more police and military presence than last year. He also said that within seconds of the blast, black SUVs swarmed the scene.

:/

But the important question is...were there black HELICOPTERS??

That's when you know.

They showed a lot of video over and over on TV of the blasts and the area and aftermath, I didn't see any Black SUVs "swarming" within "seconds". But maybe I missed it.


The guy speaking was constantly saying "What's interesting is..." Which kinda made me think he was a touch off.
2013-04-15 11:50:23 PM  
1 votes:
The Shot Heard Round the World. The Boston Tea Party. Tax Day. Somebody's making a statement.

My heart goes out to the people of Boston and those wounded or killed and their families. I spent a week in Boston once and had a blast. The people were fantastic and everyone treated me as a guest when they found out I was from out of town. I will return.

I hope the scum who did this are hunted to the edge of the earth summarily executed..
2013-04-15 11:49:31 PM  
1 votes:

Gotfire: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 361x233]

Get ready for this tomorrow.


Sadly, she already told us that Boston isn't "Real America" and that the whole state was just a cesspit of Godlessness and Socialism. I think that a fair amount of the state got her message, and while she might have a few fans, and certainly folks are going to come out of the woodwork to hop all over this tragedy to extract their pound of flesh for their own ends, I don't think that it's going to go over too well out here...
2013-04-15 11:48:49 PM  
1 votes:

ongbok: cameroncrazy1984: Giltric: Guy was acting suspicious after the bombing and a group of people tackled him....supposedly this is the "saudi national" they were talking about earlier and he is cooperating with authorities

I've seen muslims shout allah ackbar when enemies have died and when compatriots have died. There are many reasons to say it, I wonder if this was the suspicious activity they are talking about, dude was sending an SOS to God and caught a beatdown.

He was running away from the explosion. Totally suspicious.

If he was so innocent, why was he running away?


Hey man, if shiat is exploding all around you and people are getting their legs chopped off from underneath them what the fark would you do?
2013-04-15 11:47:24 PM  
1 votes:
so cowardly.

but then so's gitmo.
2013-04-15 11:47:15 PM  
1 votes:

Bonanza Jellybean: [i.imgur.com image 500x467]

*sigh*


Ahhh, all those cuts to education have finally paid off.
2013-04-15 11:45:39 PM  
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: It's pretty stupid that people thought the bomber was one of the injured victims in the hospital. I'm sure the only person on the planet who knew those bombs were going to go off sure as fark wasn't standing next to one of them waiting for it to explode. McVeigh was blocks away from his truck bomb when it went off, and I'm sure this @sshole was too.


I obviously don't think this is the case, but I had a thought earlier that it would be pretty weird if the perpetrator ended up being the guy we've all empathized with the most, image #8 guy.
2013-04-15 11:45:39 PM  
1 votes:

Bonanza Jellybean: *sigh*


I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
2013-04-15 11:45:37 PM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: s2s2s2: There was a local coach that was in communication with his runners. He said that they mentioned a lot more police and military presence than last year. He also said that within seconds of the blast, black SUVs swarmed the scene.

:/

But the important question is...were there black HELICOPTERS??

That's when you know.


I think that they'd be using black drones now.
2013-04-15 11:44:42 PM  
1 votes:
I suppose some have started a count down until Obama calls this terrorism.
2013-04-15 11:43:01 PM  
1 votes:

bdub77: Btw I like CNN's article, "It can happen anywhere."

Yeah dude. That's kind of the point of terrorism. Let's all be scared in our houses and afraid to get out and enjoy life and not sign up for the next marathon and worry 24/7. Typical media level scare tactics. "Is a new virus going to wipe out humanity? And a fire just killed 3 people. News at 11."

It can happen anywhere, SO you should live like today could be your last day. Hug your kids, love your job, try to be a better person every day. Don't be afraid to live.


That reminds me, I need to duct tape my windows.
2013-04-15 11:40:22 PM  
1 votes:

Cobataiwan: Perhaps we all need a refresher course in how these claims that its all right wingers usually turns out?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/of_massacres_med ia _myths_iwxYulFJ9jKcrBTk50kpOL \

I predict this attack was not done on this specific day EXCEPT there was a famous marathon being run at the time. But that's just a prediction.


"In fact, Stack's suicide note quoted the Communist Manifesto."

Yes - in a positive comparison to capitalism. It's like saying the guy was a fan of Hitler because he called someone Hitler.
2013-04-15 11:40:09 PM  
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Prepare to soon strip yourselves fully naked at the airport, spreading your asscheeks wide open and bending over goh-tzee style as you slowly march backwards towards the gloved TSA finger into it slides in deep.

/Gonna be a farking field day for every pedophile TSA goon out there.


I thought that was the whole purpose of the airport bar. And holding cell.
2013-04-15 11:38:41 PM  
1 votes:
Btw I like CNN's article, "It can happen anywhere."

Yeah dude. That's kind of the point of terrorism. Let's all be scared in our houses and afraid to get out and enjoy life and not sign up for the next marathon and worry 24/7. Typical media level scare tactics. "Is a new virus going to wipe out humanity? And a fire just killed 3 people. News at 11."

It can happen anywhere, SO you should live like today could be your last day. Hug your kids, love your job, try to be a better person every day. Don't be afraid to live.
2013-04-15 11:37:42 PM  
1 votes:
2013-04-15 11:36:28 PM  
1 votes:
A marathon is a symbol of the Greek's victory over the Persians at... Marathon. Therefore, I blame Xerxes.
2013-04-15 11:36:19 PM  
1 votes:

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Surool: TyrantII: The Boston Teaparty was NEVER about taxes.

It was about tariffs being rescinded on EITC imports without being able to protest through parliament or the crown.


tar·iff

Noun
A tax or duty to be paid on a particular class of imports or exports.

[si0.twimg.com image 256x256]


It was about the lack of representation in Parliment. It wasn't the taxes they had a problem with, but the fact they had no say in it anything and they didn't recieve any benefit.


ZOMG facts.
2013-04-15 11:36:14 PM  
1 votes:

Amos Quito: It's 30,000 pages, and will be on Obama's desk for signature by Thursday at noon.


And we will have to pass it to see what's in it.
2013-04-15 11:36:10 PM  
1 votes:
Worldwalker
two hours after the first runners came across the line? By then, everything that matters is over, the crowds have thinned out, people are starting to leave, etc.


Are you sure?
I didn't look up when the bombs exploded in relation to the running time, but two hours after the first runners arrived would be a great moment if you wanted to hit a lot of runners:
the winner usually runs something like two hours and a handful of minutes, but more than half of the hobby runners in those big event marathons will need over 4 hours.
A few spectators who only wanted to see the winners will have been gone, but there will be lots of people who are there waiting for their friends.

Having been a helper at the Berlin Marathon for years, I would expect thick(est) crowds of runners, helpers and possibly spectators about 1.5-2.5 hours after the top athletes (at kilometer 30/42, too lazy to convert to miles).
If you don't want to shock and terrorize the more or less unknown African dudes who will win the thing, but your average Joe, Suzy and their softball teams running for charity and being greeted by their families, the timing would make perfect sense.
2013-04-15 11:36:09 PM  
1 votes:

Uranus Is Huge!: My money is on some creepy, loner, white guy that hates the govenrment. I really hope it's not a Muslim. At least we'd have a good shot at attacking the correct country. Best case scenario? North Korea claim responsibility...and is telling the truth. I won't hold my breath.


I don't get how anyone has even considered North Korea is involved with this in any way.  Yes, they've been acting extra erratic lately, but claiming responsibility for this would make ZERO sense.  Their current saber-rattling with their missiles is the kind of thing that helps win political support within North Korea, setting off some amateur bombs at a marathon isn't going to win support from anyone.
2013-04-15 11:35:53 PM  
1 votes:

Giltric: Guy was acting suspicious after the bombing and a group of people tackled him....supposedly this is the "saudi national" they were talking about earlier and he is cooperating with authorities

I've seen muslims shout allah ackbar when enemies have died and when compatriots have died. There are many reasons to say it, I wonder if this was the suspicious activity they are talking about, dude was sending an SOS to God and caught a beatdown.


He was running away from the explosion. Totally suspicious.
2013-04-15 11:35:49 PM  
1 votes:

The All-Powerful Atheismo: As for the mods


There are gross images, and there are legs in a blender images. The pics from this are the latter. If you are so desperate to see images of humans ripped to shreds, take the thirty seconds you were going to use biatching about mods and google it yourself. It really isn't that hard to find.
2013-04-15 11:34:34 PM  
1 votes:

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: It's entirely possible we'll never know who did this.


It remaining unsolved would be a good talking point for increased public surveillance.
2013-04-15 11:34:18 PM  
1 votes:

Uranus Is Huge!: Best case scenario? North Korea claim responsibility...and is telling the truth. I won't hold my breath.


That's as likely as Best Korea finding Colorado on a map.
2013-04-15 11:33:27 PM  
1 votes:

The All-Powerful Atheismo: GWSuperfan: The All-Powerful Atheismo: comment was removed, anyone wanna post it again so I can see it?

It was removed- obviously for a reason. Why do you want to poke the Mods with a stick?

As for the mods... don't give a shiat.  I've had comments removed for little crap and then seen people in the very same thread post blatantly worse pictures and have them remain.



This post removed due to a complaint from Nobuko Ichikawa
2013-04-15 11:32:29 PM  
1 votes:

Giltric: Outshined_One: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: It's entirely possible we'll never know who did this.

AQ would have released half a dozen videos to Al Jazeera by now if they had done this.

The longer the silence, the more likely it is we're looking at a lone wolf type.

What are the odds on "groups no longer laying claim to acts of violence to keep green eyed men with black rifles from showing up"

My money is on that....


The entire purpose of an act of political terrorism is to make a statement.   Not making the statement to tie it to your politics kinda defeats the purpose.
2013-04-15 11:32:23 PM  
1 votes:

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Local reporter in Boston is reporting that a federal search warrant is being executed at an apartment building on Revere Street.

https://twitter.com/kathyreports/status/323994139568009217



Both the Boston Globe and a local Boston TV station are claiming that an apartment in Revere Beach is being searched by law enforcement.
2013-04-15 11:31:29 PM  
1 votes:
My money is on some creepy, loner, white guy that hates the govenrment. I really hope it's not a Muslim. At least we'd have a good shot at attacking the correct country. Best case scenario? North Korea claim responsibility...and is telling the truth. I won't hold my breath.
2013-04-15 11:30:26 PM  
1 votes:
Local reporter in Boston is reporting that a federal search warrant is being executed at an apartment building on Revere Street.

https://twitter.com/kathyreports/status/323994139568009217
2013-04-15 11:30:08 PM  
1 votes:

cretinbob: Eric Rudolph felt that the Olympics represented socialism and therefore needed to be stopped.


How does...nevermind, I'm getting a headache trying to comprehend that.
2013-04-15 11:29:59 PM  
1 votes:

Xcott: Pundits are already derping about how Obama hasn't called the bombing "terrorism" yet.

What's with this weird and meaningless obsession over the precise words that the president uses?


Fark that noise.  The important thing is how soon after 3;00 EST  he tweeted about it.
2013-04-15 11:29:20 PM  
1 votes:

nilThreek: Believe it or not, I actually had a thought along those lines and almost mentioned it, but it being my first fark post and all, didn't want to come off as too callus before I test the waters more, lest I get ejected from Fark for breaking some unspoken rule or something I didn't know about...

/really hope the best for everyone right now, vengance and justice can come later...


It's hard to get ejected from fark, as can be seen from this thread. Just maintain an even keel, or not, and have a thick skin and you will do fine.

That said the ignore-fu is the strongest I have ever seen here. I just wonder how many are following through. My guess is not many.

Welcome to the asylum.
2013-04-15 11:29:15 PM  
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Congratulations, you've managed to piss off a troll so much that he ignored you. That's quite impressive!


That is actually a skill that could be quite useful around the internets.
2013-04-15 11:29:00 PM  
1 votes:

Gotfire: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 361x233]

Get ready for this tomorrow.


(this was supposed to post)

24.media.tumblr.com
2013-04-15 11:27:23 PM  
1 votes:

Sticky Hands: Eric Rudolph's Olympic attack is the closest one I can think of that's non specific. But apparently he felt it was.
And the vast majority of his bombings were focused on abortion clinics, gays and other "non godly" types.


Eric Rudolph felt that the Olympics represented socialism and therefore needed to be stopped.

And he was a Christian nutjob.


//not that all of them are
2013-04-15 11:26:47 PM  
1 votes:

Xcott: Pundits are already derping about how Obama hasn't called the bombing "terrorism" yet.

What's with this weird and meaningless obsession over the precise words that the president uses?


Look at that motherfarker, eating crackers like he owns the place.
2013-04-15 11:26:33 PM  
1 votes:
Boston Globe confirms that "A significant number of police officers and other investigators are gathered at a residential building in Revere, according to WBZ-TV "

CNN has upped the number of wounded to 144.
2013-04-15 11:26:17 PM  
1 votes:

costermonger: bdub77: Vacation Bible School: T.rex: That #8 pic... the dude in the cowboy hat is holding the guy's femoral artery, keeping him from bleeding out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWHHWB3Jr60

Quick street interview with cowboy hat guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Arredondo

Damn.


That man has lived a pretty crazy life.  Running in to help like that without any worries

Also I miss India Samraat since I left the Back Bay
2013-04-15 11:26:02 PM  
1 votes:

SamWaters: No death penalty in Massachusetts, life without the possibility of parole being the only punishment for first-degree murder.   The House twice defeated efforts to have it re-instated, one of the efforts to re-instated it was led by Governor Mitt Romney.


Good.
2013-04-15 11:25:34 PM  
1 votes:
New bombing video from the perspective of a runner. Probably cell cam:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIHnpHZpFcw
2013-04-15 11:24:40 PM  
1 votes:
No death penalty in Massachusetts, life without the possibility of parole being the only punishment for first-degree murder.   The House twice defeated efforts to have it re-instated, one of the efforts to re-instated it was led by Governor Mitt Romney.
2013-04-15 11:24:11 PM  
1 votes:

Galileo's Daughter: At least 3 dead, 130 injured when two explosions occurred at the finish line of the Boston Marathon.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/explosions-boston-marathon-f ini sh-line-18960342#.UWzBmaKG3Ns


God. I don't want to live on this planet anymore. I ache for all those who are suffering right now. I'm so goddamn tired of this shiat.

Thanks for the update. Good article; no derp.
2013-04-15 11:23:23 PM  
1 votes:

Mrbogey: Surool: So, after reading these threads... no one knows f*ck all about anything, and conservatives already have the "false flag operation" buzzword to claim they are being framed just in case the fact that Boston, home of the infamous Tea Party, was attacked on Tax Day (April 15) isn't some huge coincidence. How 'bout waiting to see who did it before you get defensive?

Yet you seem to know something.


I seem to have read what they are preemptively being defensive about. On Fark no less... It's almost spooky when you make comments based on the things you've actually read when you're posting in a thread.
2013-04-15 11:20:57 PM  
1 votes:

TyrantII: It wasn't about taxes, but about pro-protectionist colonists and Representative government.


Yes.

No taxation without representation
2013-04-15 11:20:35 PM  
1 votes:

RexTalionis: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: 2) Home-grown right wing terrorists: Generally attack targets directly related to their beef (ex: abortion clinics) or government facilities. This target was neither, and the PR blowback would not be beneficial.

Eric Robert Rudolph (born September 19, 1966), also known as the Olympic Park Bomber, is responsible for a series of bombings across the southern United States between 1996 and 1998, which killed two people and injured at least 150 others in the name of an anti-abortion and anti-gay agenda. The Federal Bureau of Investigation considers him a terrorist.[1]

As a teenager Rudolph was taken by his mother to a Church of Israel compound in 1984; it is connected to the Christian Identity movement.[2] He has called himself a Roman Catholic in "the war to end this holocaust" (in reference to abortion).[3] He has confirmed religious motivation, but denied racial motivation for his crimes.[4]


Eric Rudolph's statement:

In the summer of 1996, the world converged upon Atlanta for the Olympic Games. Under the protection and auspices of the regime in Washington millions of people came to celebrate the ideals of global socialism. Multinational corporations spent billions of dollars, and Washington organized an army of security to protect these best of all games. Even though the conception and the purpose of the so-called Olympic movement is the promote the values of global socialism as perfectly expressed in the song "Imagine" by John Lennon, which was the theme of the 1996 Games - even though the purpose of the Olympics is to promote these despicable ideals, the purpose of the attack on July 27th was to confound, anger and embarrass the Washington government in the eyes of the world for its abominable sanctioning of abortion on demand. The plan was to force the cancellation of the Games, or at least create a state of insecurity to empty the streets around the venues and thereby eat into the vast amounts of money invested.[8]
2013-04-15 11:19:39 PM  
1 votes:
I really wish I hadn't clicked that. The two girls in the first picture are going to haunt me for the rest of my life.
2013-04-15 11:18:25 PM  
1 votes:

mccallcl: draa: Honestly, we just don't know that yet.

Don't know what yet? That no footage has been released? I'm pretty sure we'd know about it if there was footage of a suspect placing one or more bombs. The bomb sites are known to us, and they are all covered by cameras at every possible angle, every street in every major American city has been since about 1999. Are you trying to tell me that it hasn't been enough time to review the security footage, peel off some images of the perps and put out an APB? Bullshiat. The authorities are using this time to scrub their incompetence and/or corruption out of the story, just like a bunch of criminals in the same holding cell after a robbery. Posting any and all information immediately is the best remedy against retconning or accusations of retconning later on.

Dollars to donuts, amateur footage is what solves this one, and that footage will be very embarrassing to a lot of people in power, and at least a few foot soldiers caught sleeping on the job.


Dude, seriously, shut the fark up. There's enough retardation in this thread without you adding to it.
2013-04-15 11:18:16 PM  
1 votes:

mccallcl: draa: Honestly, we just don't know that yet.

Don't know what yet? That no footage has been released? I'm pretty sure we'd know about it if there was footage of a suspect placing one or more bombs. The bomb sites are known to us, and they are all covered by cameras at every possible angle, every street in every major American city has been since about 1999. Are you trying to tell me that it hasn't been enough time to review the security footage, peel off some images of the perps and put out an APB? Bullshiat. The authorities are using this time to scrub their incompetence and/or corruption out of the story, just like a bunch of criminals in the same holding cell after a robbery. Posting any and all information immediately is the best remedy against retconning or accusations of retconning later on.

Dollars to donuts, amateur footage is what solves this one, and that footage will be very embarrassing to a lot of people in power, and at least a few foot soldiers caught sleeping on the job.


Dude, I've listened to you rant on and on about how our money is being wasted, or how we have a right to know what cops know, it's not and we don't. If there's an ongoing investagation, and there is, you'll know when they tell you. It's that simple. And as far as incompetence goes, it's incompetent for you to sit there and blame cops for an act of terrorism like this when you just don't know what happened any more than the rest of us. Good god man, let them do their farking jobs and be happy they're there to do it.
2013-04-15 11:16:38 PM  
1 votes:

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: 2) Home-grown right wing terrorists: Generally attack targets directly related to their beef (ex: abortion clinics) or government facilities. This target was neither, and the PR blowback would not be beneficial.


Eric Robert Rudolph (born September 19, 1966), also known as the Olympic Park Bomber, is responsible for a series of bombings across the southern United States between 1996 and 1998, which killed two people and injured at least 150 others in the name of an anti-abortion and anti-gay agenda. The Federal Bureau of Investigation considers him a terrorist.[1]

As a teenager Rudolph was taken by his mother to a Church of Israel compound in 1984; it is connected to the Christian Identity movement.[2] He has called himself a Roman Catholic in "the war to end this holocaust" (in reference to abortion).[3] He has confirmed religious motivation, but denied racial motivation for his crimes.[4]
2013-04-15 11:14:47 PM  
1 votes:

Sticky Hands: ausfahrk: I'm sure someone's pointed it out already, but Spokane Bomb Guy begs to differ.

White supremacist attacking a multicultural crowd at a  MLK day parade.
Pretty specific target to send a specific message.

 Eric Rudolph's Olympic attack is the closest one I can think of that's non specific. But apparently he felt it was.
And the vast majority of his bombings were focused on abortion clinics, gays and other "non godly" types.


And maybe this one made sense to the whack-job/scum who did it too . . .
2013-04-15 11:14:28 PM  
1 votes:
CNN saying there are 140 injured. Gawker posted a couple of hours ago that 17 were in critical condition, and 25 were in serious condition.
2013-04-15 11:13:59 PM  
1 votes:
It's entirely possible we'll never know who did this.
2013-04-15 11:13:52 PM  
1 votes:

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'm honestly puzzled by this whole thing. Who did it? The Fark lefties are screaming teabaggers, etc. The Fark Righties are screaming Mooslims. And a few others are suggesting IRA, etc. None of these, to me, makes sense.

Here's why:

1) Islamic extremists:  With the exception - I think - of the Lockerbie plane bombing, I do not recall a single instance of Islamic bombings where the group responsible did not claim credit. No one has claimed credit.
Possible reasons, though, why not:
a) the authorities are muzzling the media that would have received the credit claim. This does not seem likely.
b) after our response to 911, perhaps they are afraid. This doesn't make sense either, sense the whole reason for terror attacks is to goad us into attacking something in the Middle East, thereby winning friends and influencing people (not).
c) might be a homegrown Islamic terror cell, in deep cover.

2) Home-grown right wing terrorists: Generally attack targets directly related to their beef (ex: abortion clinics) or government facilities. This target was neither, and the PR blowback would not be beneficial.

3) IRA: As far as I know, the IRA has generally warned authorities when a bombing is about to take place. Also, why would they do this bombing?

4) Other possibilities:

a) Deflection from attention and police presence from a crime elsewhere? Too Hollywood, and no crime has been reported. But maybe the other victims were killed and haven't been discovered yet?

b) Murder. Say I have a reason to murder one of the people either running in the race, or someone I know will be at the finish line. IF the bombs were remote-detonated (say by someone with a line-of-sight view of the area) then this would make sense;
i) detonate when victim is near one of the bombs.
ii) multiple victims, so police have a hard time figuring out who the actual target was.
iii) the bombs make it look like terrorism, not murder.

Thoughts?


The IRA? Why would they bomb their biggest fundraisers and weapons acquirers?
2013-04-15 11:12:33 PM  
1 votes:

walkerhound: Mister Pleco:I can up the tinfoil by pointing out that the footage of the second blast (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/video/20130415/boston-maratho n- second-blast.sportsillustrated/) is in this general area:  http://goo.gl/maps/xDSQB  There is another mailbox here, too.

/Don't believe in tinfoil. It just concentrates and directs the brainwaves into your skull.

I found that one, too, and another dark box near a Starbucks.  I'm sure it will come out in the news cycle sooner or later.  I wonder if one of the kids wasn't sitting on the damn thing.


CORRECTION!  The green mailboxes are relay mailboxes.  I'm not trying to start anything, but this article says there has been derp (and bees) attached to them:  http://gothamist.com/2012/02/09/what_are_those_green_mailboxes.php
2013-04-15 11:10:41 PM  
1 votes:

ausfahrk: I'm sure someone's pointed it out already, but Spokane Bomb Guy begs to differ.


White supremacist attacking a multicultural crowd at a  MLK day parade.
Pretty specific target to send a specific message.

 Eric Rudolph's Olympic attack is the closest one I can think of that's non specific. But apparently he felt it was.
And the vast majority of his bombings were focused on abortion clinics, gays and other "non godly" types.
2013-04-15 11:10:34 PM  
1 votes:
My primary care doctor was apparently competing but finished ahead-he went back to assist in the medical tent.
2013-04-15 11:10:06 PM  
1 votes:

TommyymmoT: Tonight at MIT:


Bravo MIT. well done.
2013-04-15 11:09:37 PM  
1 votes:

dr_blasto: Mrbogey: hasty ambush: Did somebody say anti-government Domestic terrorist?

[jewsforsarah.com image 325x257]
"I don't regret setting bombs" and "I feel we didn't do enough." Bill Ayers, New York Times, Sept. 11, 2001

It's interesting that his crew used a very similar bomb but it failed to go off. He advocated for killing upwards of 25 million Americans and he's treated as "just some guy". If only Nixon had drones...

Nixon Drones?
[www.wmoh.com image 220x273]


Didn't Nixion just use old fashioned full-sized bombers for his illegal bombings?
2013-04-15 11:08:37 PM  
1 votes:

jaytkay: Sticky Hands: Our home grown nutjobs nearly always target specific buildings/people. (OKC, IRS, Anthrax to legislators , etc.)
General mayhem isn't usually their MO.

Atlanta Olympic bombing


*Shakes fist*

At least mine had a link in it!
2013-04-15 11:07:47 PM  
1 votes:

TheBlackFlag: I rarely use the word 'Hate".  It is a powerful and negative word.  For me, hatred is reserved for one type of person:  The Coward.

Planting bombs to go off in the midst of innocent people going about their everyday lives is the job of a coward.  Convincing some illiterate kid he is doing "god's will" while you walk away is the ultimate coward.

I dont know who is responsible for the bombings today, but I know they are Cowards.


So much THIS.
2013-04-15 11:07:38 PM  
1 votes:
why does mossad hate marathons?
because they do.
and puppies.
they despise puppies.
2013-04-15 11:07:05 PM  
1 votes:

mccallcl: dave2198: This may come as a shock to you, but authorities often hold evidence that they don't share with other people.

Thanks for the tip, but I don't give a shiat. My fellow Americans and I have a right to know everything about this immediately. It's a deadly terror attack, not a minor arrested for PI in the local news blotter. I don't want to find out the day after tomorrow, once the authorities have gotten a chance to circle up and get their stories straight. I want the information as it becomes available. My tax dollars paid for the equipment we're supposedly using to monitor these groups, and the staff that's supposed to keep me safe from terror. Somebody farked up somewhere (probably several somebodies). I want their names, so I can be sure they are fired.

I also want the names of any and all suspects before they have a chance to be escorted out of the country on private planes because their families are connected, or before they are anonymously executed because their identities would be an embarrassment to someone important. I also don't want the same truther bullshiat as last time, fed in part by the bizarre timing of information released in the wake of 9/11.

We have a right to know, and "part of an ongoing investigation" or not, I demand the raw truth. We don't hold back evidence when a bank is robbed, we put the perps on blast.

dave2198: Because that's what it would have taken to completely lock down the BOSTON MARATHON instantaneously.

That's why there weren't cars driving all over the course: because we have martial law. Face it: preventing terrorism in this country is a joke. If this were London, the group responsible would already be in custody. They know how to fight terror in the UK because they have actual practice, unlike the donut-munching gold-bricking authorities we have over here in the States. I would love to know which AR-15-carrying flak-jacket filler was standing closest to the bomb site all day, scratching his or her ass.

This was a crime, not some random act of God. I want those responsible for the crime identified, and those who allowed the crime to happen held responsible for not doing their job properly. And it all starts with lots of raw information being released ASAP. Not by sifting through it and removing the incriminating bits first.


You're terrifying.
Thank goodness we have Due Process.
2013-04-15 11:06:35 PM  
1 votes:
I'm honestly puzzled by this whole thing. Who did it? The Fark lefties are screaming teabaggers, etc. The Fark Righties are screaming Mooslims. And a few others are suggesting IRA, etc. None of these, to me, makes sense.

Here's why:

1) Islamic extremists:  With the exception - I think - of the Lockerbie plane bombing, I do not recall a single instance of Islamic bombings where the group responsible did not claim credit. No one has claimed credit.
Possible reasons, though, why not:
a) the authorities are muzzling the media that would have received the credit claim. This does not seem likely.
b) after our response to 911, perhaps they are afraid. This doesn't make sense either, sense the whole reason for terror attacks is to goad us into attacking something in the Middle East, thereby winning friends and influencing people (not).
c) might be a homegrown Islamic terror cell, in deep cover.

2) Home-grown right wing terrorists: Generally attack targets directly related to their beef (ex: abortion clinics) or government facilities. This target was neither, and the PR blowback would not be beneficial.

3) IRA: As far as I know, the IRA has generally warned authorities when a bombing is about to take place. Also, why would they do this bombing?

4) Other possibilities:

a) Deflection from attention and police presence from a crime elsewhere? Too Hollywood, and no crime has been reported. But maybe the other victims were killed and haven't been discovered yet?

b) Murder. Say I have a reason to murder one of the people either running in the race, or someone I know will be at the finish line. IF the bombs were remote-detonated (say by someone with a line-of-sight view of the area) then this would make sense;
i) detonate when victim is near one of the bombs.
ii) multiple victims, so police have a hard time figuring out who the actual target was.
iii) the bombs make it look like terrorism, not murder.

Thoughts?
2013-04-15 11:06:32 PM  
1 votes:

dletter: cloakandbadger: Worldwalker: I haven't read this whole thread, just skimmed it, but there's one thing I'm not seeing:

There's all sorts of speculation among my fellow Farkers about whether it's foreign terrorism, domestic terrorism, Muslims, Tea Partiers, or some random sort of wacko ... and missing one possibility:

Why would someone who wanted to make a major "statement" and cause mass mayhem/death set off bombs two hours after the first runners came across the line? By then, everything that matters is over, the crowds have thinned out, people are starting to leave, etc.

On the other hand, if someone was specifically trying to kill one or more people in the crowd, and have it blamed on terrorism, that would be a good way to do it. People have crashed planes to kill someone on board them -- why not set off bombs? If I was the cops, I'd want to look really hard at the ex-spouses, spurned lovers, fired employees, etc., of everyone who was in that area at the time. It would not surprise me in the slightest to find the murderer among them.

Scenario: Fred is a former postal worker who wants to kill Charlie, the guy who fired him. He knows Charlie's son Joe is going to be running in the Boston Marathon. So he plants his bombs, and when Joe is close to the finish line, and Charlie is moving up to watch him finish, Fred sets off the bombs. Maybe he kills Charlie, maybe he has to try again later, but either way, nobody's looking at him. He was just a guy in the crowd, and not any sort of terrorist. Just, y'know, a guy with a major beef against someone else who he knew was going to be there.

Truth? Speculation? I dunno. But it doesn't seem to be anything anyone is looking at.

I'm not sure if this is realistic or not, but you should definitely be writing for CSI.

Early indications don't seem to support this, but, I wouldn't be surprised for someone to try this... other than, usually that person ONLY wants to target the person who "wronged them"... they wouldn't want to ...


Look at the recent case of ex-LAPD officer Dorner, who killed the daughter of the man he thought responsible for his firing, and her fiance.
Also, DC sniper, who supposedly wanted to kill his ex-wife in order to get custody of their kids, and shot all other victims as a diversion.
2013-04-15 11:04:52 PM  
1 votes:
For the record, if I'm critically injured like some of the folks in the gory pics were, and there's some low-life photographer inches away from me with a camera snapping pics instead of trying to help the injured (who are obviously bleeding out and don't have anyone helping them yet), I'm going to haunt the fark out of them if there's a ghost-like afterlife...

If pic#8 guy survives (hopefully he survived ..?), I would have a major schadenfreudegasm if he goes all Liam Neeson on the camera guy...
2013-04-15 11:04:50 PM  
1 votes:

Galileo's Daughter: tinfoil-hat maggie: farkingismybusiness: Here's some more EXTREMELY NSFW NSFL photos from immediately after the blasts.

I wish I hadn't looked at that, but I did. Such a tragic day.

I..what...good God, that is horrific.  I'm amazed that only 3 are confirmed dead.


Lots of medical professionals nearby for the race, and a lot of world class hospitals in the city I'm sure helped that.  Add in all the police from the videos being Weeners types and it really can help people survive who wouldn't have if their injuries happened in other circumstances.
2013-04-15 11:04:28 PM  
1 votes:
Two questions that must be forcibly taken from news anchors when they interview people about things like this:

"What was it like? What did you do?"

"It was scary. I shiat myself." I mean WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WAS LIKE?!?
2013-04-15 11:04:12 PM  
1 votes:

walkerhound: Mister Pleco:I can up the tinfoil by pointing out that the footage of the second blast (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/video/20130415/boston-maratho n- second-blast.sportsillustrated/) is in this general area:  http://goo.gl/maps/xDSQB  There is another mailbox here, too.

/Don't believe in tinfoil. It just concentrates and directs the brainwaves into your skull.

I found that one, too, and another dark box near a Starbucks.  I'm sure it will come out in the news cycle sooner or later.  I wonder if one of the kids wasn't sitting on the damn thing.


Yes, there is a utility box.   http://goo.gl/maps/gFe6h To the left of it, it may be a UPS mail drop?  Not USPS like I posted earlier.  At the finish line site, there is both a USPS and UPS box.
2013-04-15 11:03:27 PM  
1 votes:
According to the boston.com live blog, federal, state and local officials are searching an apartment in Revere, MA.

Blog:  http://live.boston.com/Event/Live_blog_Explosion_in_Copley_Square

Photo:  http://twitpic.com/cjo8r7
2013-04-15 11:02:45 PM  
1 votes:
mccallcl:

That's why there weren't cars driving all over the course: because we have martial law. Face it: preventing terrorism in this country is a joke. If this were London, the group responsible would already be in custody. They know how to fight terror in the UK because they have actual practice, unlike the donut-munching gold-bricking authorities we have over here in the States. I would love to know which AR-15-carrying flak-jacket filler was standing closest to the bomb site all day, scratching his or her ass.


Probably one of these 4:
http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/292101/slide_292101_2340520 _f ree.jpg?1366062186000

/Please note, the Brits did NOT solve the July 11 bombings in under 12 hours.
2013-04-15 11:01:45 PM  
1 votes:

super_grass: They've been on the forefront of science and culture when white christians were dying from their own sewage.

The fundamentalist movement was a more recent phenomenon, but don't let that get in the way of your bigoted stereotypes.


I'm speaking from documented history, troll. Once they were at the forefront of many things, but that ended when the place was overrun by several different religions who declared eternal war on each other.

Also loving how you keep ASSuming I'm some sort of Christian bigot. I don't care much about ANY religion.
2013-04-15 11:01:09 PM  
1 votes:

All_Farked_Up: Infernalist: Don't Claymore mines use ball-bearings?

And haven't they said that many of the injured were dealing with leg injuries?

Could the bombs have been military-grade claymore mines?

Claymores use C4 which does not product the large clouds of smoke we saw.


Really?  http://youtu.be/mBB3OS0Ir2U
2013-04-15 11:01:08 PM  
1 votes:

dr_blasto: Zeno-25: So this is a thing.

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]

/I lol'd

WTF is that shiat?



Not only is that silly, but I'm sure the bomber(s) is/are feeling that they attacked exactly the right city, since they killed people, made international headlines, and so far nobody has any farking clue who did it. The right wingers are pointing their racist fingers at Arabs, the left wingers are assuming it's a homegrown anti-government teabagger, and the whole country is angry or afraid or both. Terrorist mission accomplished.
2013-04-15 10:59:43 PM  
1 votes:

vermicious k'nid: Let's try and remember Carlos Arredondo's  name instead of whatever shiatbucket(s) did this.


Hell yes.  One son dies in the military, his other son killed himself, and now this?

Holy crap, this guy deserves a farking statue.
2013-04-15 10:58:02 PM  
1 votes:

Sticky Hands: Our home grown nutjobs nearly always target specific buildings/people. (OKC, IRS, Anthrax to legislators , etc.)
General mayhem isn't usually their MO.


Atlanta Olympic bombing
2013-04-15 10:57:58 PM  
1 votes:

dave2198: This may come as a shock to you, but authorities often hold evidence that they don't share with other people.


Thanks for the tip, but I don't give a shiat. My fellow Americans and I have a right to know everything about this immediately. It's a deadly terror attack, not a minor arrested for PI in the local news blotter. I don't want to find out the day after tomorrow, once the authorities have gotten a chance to circle up and get their stories straight. I want the information as it becomes available. My tax dollars paid for the equipment we're supposedly using to monitor these groups, and the staff that's supposed to keep me safe from terror. Somebody farked up somewhere (probably several somebodies). I want their names, so I can be sure they are fired.

I also want the names of any and all suspects before they have a chance to be escorted out of the country on private planes because their families are connected, or before they are anonymously executed because their identities would be an embarrassment to someone important. I also don't want the same truther bullshiat as last time, fed in part by the bizarre timing of information released in the wake of 9/11.

We have a right to know, and "part of an ongoing investigation" or not, I demand the raw truth. We don't hold back evidence when a bank is robbed, we put the perps on blast.

dave2198: Because that's what it would have taken to completely lock down the BOSTON MARATHON instantaneously.


That's why there weren't cars driving all over the course: because we have martial law. Face it: preventing terrorism in this country is a joke. If this were London, the group responsible would already be in custody. They know how to fight terror in the UK because they have actual practice, unlike the donut-munching gold-bricking authorities we have over here in the States. I would love to know which AR-15-carrying flak-jacket filler was standing closest to the bomb site all day, scratching his or her ass.

This was a crime, not some random act of God. I want those responsible for the crime identified, and those who allowed the crime to happen held responsible for not doing their job properly. And it all starts with lots of raw information being released ASAP. Not by sifting through it and removing the incriminating bits first.
2013-04-15 10:57:38 PM  
1 votes:

Worldwalker: I haven't read this whole thread, just skimmed it, but there's one thing I'm not seeing:

There's all sorts of speculation among my fellow Farkers about whether it's foreign terrorism, domestic terrorism, Muslims, Tea Partiers, or some random sort of wacko ... and missing one possibility:

Why would someone who wanted to make a major "statement" and cause mass mayhem/death set off bombs two hours after the first runners came across the line? By then, everything that matters is over, the crowds have thinned out, people are starting to leave, etc.

On the other hand, if someone was specifically trying to kill one or more people in the crowd, and have it blamed on terrorism, that would be a good way to do it. People have crashed planes to kill someone on board them -- why not set off bombs? If I was the cops, I'd want to look really hard at the ex-spouses, spurned lovers, fired employees, etc., of everyone who was in that area at the time. It would not surprise me in the slightest to find the murderer among them.

Scenario: Fred is a former postal worker who wants to kill Charlie, the guy who fired him. He knows Charlie's son Joe is going to be running in the Boston Marathon. So he plants his bombs, and when Joe is close to the finish line, and Charlie is moving up to watch him finish, Fred sets off the bombs. Maybe he kills Charlie, maybe he has to try again later, but either way, nobody's looking at him. He was just a guy in the crowd, and not any sort of terrorist. Just, y'know, a guy with a major beef against someone else who he knew was going to be there.

Truth? Speculation? I dunno. But it doesn't seem to be anything anyone is looking at.


Two explosions with shrapnel to kill a single person? The use of shrapnel would suggest a desire to injure anyone that isn't killed by the explosion. It just doesn't seem likely to me.

I also don't think the guy in right wing or left wing. He's didn't target a political event and this isn't a traditional military target.

I'm calling it: white male in his 20s. Single. He identifies himself as a sovereign citizen and is probably known by other sovereign citizens because he's notorious for expressing extreme or disturbing sentiments. He's the guy that takes it too far. He's not a Boston native. South or Midwest. He acted alone.
2013-04-15 10:57:07 PM  
1 votes:

super_grass: fritton: super_grass: John Buck 41: super_grass: Keizer_Ghidorah: super_grass: farkingismybusiness: Here's some more EXTREMELY NSFW NSFL photos from immediately after the blasts.

Looks like the aftermath of a drone strike, terrible.

Just like any kind of explosion caused by any kind of explosive. What was the point of this little shiat-bit?

List them.

America got a little slice of middle eastern hell today and people need to know that others are suffering from this fate outside of the country too.

But I guess empathy is a non renewable resource not to be wasted on brown people, right? Bigot.

Call me crazy, but when something like this happens in the country I live in, I tend to pay a bit more attention to it. Got a problem with that? I don't care.

A narrow minded nationalist who can't conjure up even a minuscule of empathy for people outside of your imaginary lines?

People like you tend to lead to political disasters where your countrymen are sent overseas in fancy uniforms and returned in fancy boxes.

Did you already post the straw man image yourself up thread?  How bad does that cognitive dissonance burn?

Nationalism and me-first thinking leads to conflict and suffering.

Perhaps you should read a (non-American) history text book.


Yah, done.  Your trolling isn't amusing in this kind of thread and your posts are too stupid to be anything BUT trollilng.  /ignored
2013-04-15 10:57:01 PM  
1 votes:

Outshined_One: Don't we usually get a group claiming responsibility for this sort of thing by now?  It seems kind of strange that there's been a lot of silence on that front, especially with no one in custody.


Usually you get dozens of groups claiming responsibility by now. It takes some time to sort the "in your dreams" candidates from the "you might, rabbit, you might" ones.
2013-04-15 10:56:32 PM  
1 votes:

super_grass: Keizer_Ghidorah: super_grass: Keizer_Ghidorah: coming from someone who accuses all Americans as being Middle East haters and 100% responsible for the 2,000 years of strife and conflict that's occurred there

Nobody said that. Did you just make this up on the spot to rationalise your own callousness?

You're entitled to your opinions, not your own reality.

Oh please, kid, you've been saying exactly that to everyone in this thread who deigned to respond to your  "hurr hurr it looks like a drone strike, take that America" trolling. I know you're doing this for shiats and giggles, maybe you can grow up and stop your nonsense.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?


What "truth"? Point out whenever I said I didn't care about anything. Go on, find it and quote it. You won't find anything. You're the one who put those words in my mouth and accused me of your strawman. All you're doing is shiatposting in the thread like a desperate child upset that his parents aren't paying attention to him.
2013-04-15 10:56:11 PM  
1 votes:

Zeno-25: So this is a thing.

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]

/I lol'd


This is too damn silly. Sports mascots are gonna find and stop the bomber. It's like a dumb 90s cartoon that only aired for 5 episodes.

And then there is this.

i.imgur.com

I know ribbons are cool and all but this farking image can't help me but think it's a person's leg twirling in the air.
2013-04-15 10:56:06 PM  
1 votes:
al's hat
There will be a whole lot of video to look at when you factor in ATM's, building security cameras, and video recorded by individuals watching and news crews reporting on the marathon.


I don't know if Boston has it, but besides the news cameras, the Berlin Marathon also had a stalkerish camera service for capturing runners on video so that you can then order a video clip of runner #xyz at the start, certain way points (like a landmark or every x miles) and obviously at the finish line and in the end zone.
Then again, those cameras are set up to capture the track and not the people on the side.
2013-04-15 10:55:50 PM  
1 votes:

Keizer_Ghidorah: super_grass: Infernalist: super_grass: Infernalist: super_grass: Infernalist: America is not responsible for the hell that is the Middle East.

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 243x207]

Nice rebuttal.

There is no debate in the harm caused by America's interventionist policies in the mideast.

To deny its impact would be to deny the impact of the triangle trade. And it takes a special kind of "American exceptionalism" idiocy to do so.

There is plenty to debate in just how much harm America has caused in general in any region of the world.

But to blame the 'hell' that the ME is on the US is retarded, based in bias and completely ignorant of all the other mitigating factors that have played a part in crafting the Ninth layer of Hell that is the Middle East.

Such as religion, British-mandated borderlines, an addiction to oil that rivals the worst drugs, ignorance and ethnic hatreds that make anything the US has ever known seem paltry and petty by comparison.

But no, you go ahead and blame it all on the US.  We're totally responsible for how the ME turned out.

Retard.

I would say that an almost decade long illegal war filled with abuse, torture, and unaccountable mercs did its part.

Even the fundie governments are either propped up and armed by U.S. oil/tax dollars or capitalized on populist outrage after the U.S. government toppled yet another democratically elected government.

An IED attack killed 50 people in Iraq last month thanks to power struggles fueled by sectarian violence.  Tell me that it would not have happened had the U.S. not invaded the country. I farking dare you.

Considering what they've been doing to each other for the last 2,000 years, that's barely a blip in the atrocity radar.


They've been on the forefront of science and culture when white christians were dying from their own sewage.

The fundamentalist movement was a more recent phenomenon, but don't let that get in the way of your bigoted stereotypes.
2013-04-15 10:55:05 PM  
1 votes:

deffuse: It's threads like these that make me wary of going to any Fark Party...


Over in 1527
2013-04-15 10:53:28 PM  
1 votes:

Infernalist: Don't Claymore mines use ball-bearings?

And haven't they said that many of the injured were dealing with leg injuries?

Could the bombs have been military-grade claymore mines?


No. Next question.
2013-04-15 10:52:12 PM  
1 votes:
So this is a thing.

i.imgur.com

/I lol'd
2013-04-15 10:50:54 PM  
1 votes:

tinyarena: [imageshack.us image 240x285]


You know, there was just a story about how he hasn't been seen for a couple of weeks. Hmmmmmmmmm
2013-04-15 10:50:08 PM  
1 votes:

super_grass: Infernalist: super_grass: Infernalist: super_grass: Infernalist: America is not responsible for the hell that is the Middle East.

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 243x207]

Nice rebuttal.

There is no debate in the harm caused by America's interventionist policies in the mideast.

To deny its impact would be to deny the impact of the triangle trade. And it takes a special kind of "American exceptionalism" idiocy to do so.

There is plenty to debate in just how much harm America has caused in general in any region of the world.

But to blame the 'hell' that the ME is on the US is retarded, based in bias and completely ignorant of all the other mitigating factors that have played a part in crafting the Ninth layer of Hell that is the Middle East.

Such as religion, British-mandated borderlines, an addiction to oil that rivals the worst drugs, ignorance and ethnic hatreds that make anything the US has ever known seem paltry and petty by comparison.

But no, you go ahead and blame it all on the US.  We're totally responsible for how the ME turned out.

Retard.

I would say that an almost decade long illegal war filled with abuse, torture, and unaccountable mercs did its part.

Even the fundie governments are either propped up and armed by U.S. oil/tax dollars or capitalized on populist outrage after the U.S. government toppled yet another democratically elected government.

An IED attack killed 50 people in Iraq last month thanks to power struggles fueled by sectarian violence.  Tell me that it would not have happened had the U.S. not invaded the country. I farking dare you.


Considering what they've been doing to each other for the last 2,000 years, that's barely a blip in the atrocity radar.
2013-04-15 10:47:43 PM  
1 votes:

super_grass: Infernalist: super_grass: Infernalist: super_grass: Infernalist: America is not responsible for the hell that is the Middle East.

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 243x207]

Nice rebuttal.

There is no debate in the harm caused by America's interventionist policies in the mideast.

To deny its impact would be to deny the impact of the triangle trade. And it takes a special kind of "American exceptionalism" idiocy to do so.

There is plenty to debate in just how much harm America has caused in general in any region of the world.

But to blame the 'hell' that the ME is on the US is retarded, based in bias and completely ignorant of all the other mitigating factors that have played a part in crafting the Ninth layer of Hell that is the Middle East.

Such as religion, British-mandated borderlines, an addiction to oil that rivals the worst drugs, ignorance and ethnic hatreds that make anything the US has ever known seem paltry and petty by comparison.

But no, you go ahead and blame it all on the US.  We're totally responsible for how the ME turned out.

Retard.

I would say that an almost decade long illegal war filled with abuse, torture, and unaccountable mercs did its part.

Even the fundie governments are either propped up and armed by U.S. oil/tax dollars or capitalized on populist outrage after the U.S. government toppled yet another democratically elected government.

An IED attack killed 50 people in Iraq last month thanks to power struggles fueled by sectarian violence.  Tell me that it would not have happened had the U.S. not invaded the country. I farking dare you.


I'm not even going to bother trying to debate with you.  I'm too riled up by the attacks today to be detached.

You're a loser, your argument sucks and you're on ignore.  Enjoy.
2013-04-15 10:46:37 PM  
1 votes:
Mister Pleco:I can up the tinfoil by pointing out that the footage of the second blast (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/video/20130415/boston-maratho n- second-blast.sportsillustrated/) is in this general area:  http://goo.gl/maps/xDSQB  There is another mailbox here, too.

/Don't believe in tinfoil. It just concentrates and directs the brainwaves into your skull.


I found that one, too, and another dark box near a Starbucks.  I'm sure it will come out in the news cycle sooner or later.  I wonder if one of the kids wasn't sitting on the damn thing.
2013-04-15 10:46:30 PM  
1 votes:

draa: mccallcl: So not only has the bombing been successful, and the perp(s) have left the scene, but unlike running a red light almost anywhere in the country, we have no footage of the perp(s).

Honestly, we just don't know that yet. I have a hard time believing that in this day and age nobody has footage of the packages, or a least the people responsible for planting the packages. That would be rare considering our love of cameras and videos now-a-days. However, even if they did have footage, I would think we probably wouldn't see it for some time since the police and Feds would keep a tight lid on any of it until they've veiwed it themselves. Surely there's footage of something out of the ordinary out there.


There will be a whole lot of video to look at when you factor in ATM's, building security cameras, and video recorded by individuals watching and news crews reporting on the marathon.
2013-04-15 10:42:38 PM  
1 votes:

Sticky Hands: Keizer_Ghidorah: Apparently you've forgotten what today is.

The day makes a little bit of sense.
The target makes much less sense.

Our home grown nutjobs nearly always target specific buildings/people. (OKC, IRS, Anthrax to legislators , etc.)
General mayhem isn't usually their MO.  Now if you tell me there is a federal building on the block or some important politician was suppose to be there, I'll change my mind, but the Times Square attempt from a while back shows that the Islamic guys are still trying, and frankly this kind of attack is very much their style. (of course they have a lot of styles....) but multiple small bombs targeting random civilians is very similar to the London, Spain and Bali attacks.  If that rental truck rumor from earlier is true, then it very much matches the "use small bombs to drive people to the big bomb" tactic.



I'm sure someone's pointed it out already, but Spokane Bomb Guy begs to differ.
2013-04-15 10:42:25 PM  
1 votes:
My gut says that the bomber(s) are American. I have no evidence to point to and don't in any way claim to be correct on that. It's just a gut feeling that when we find out who was behind this that it will be an American (possibly more than one) who committed this shameful act of cowardice.

I sincerely hope that we figure out who did this regardless of whether it was a foreign or domestic act of terrorism.
2013-04-15 10:42:24 PM  
1 votes:

super_grass: Keizer_Ghidorah: coming from someone who accuses all Americans as being Middle East haters and 100% responsible for the 2,000 years of strife and conflict that's occurred there

Nobody said that. Did you just make this up on the spot to rationalise your own callousness?

You're entitled to your opinions, not your own reality.


Oh please, kid, you've been saying exactly that to everyone in this thread who deigned to respond to your  "hurr hurr it looks like a drone strike, take that America" trolling. I know you're doing this for shiats and giggles, maybe you can grow up and stop your nonsense.
2013-04-15 10:41:52 PM  
1 votes:

Somacandra: skullkrusher: Fark is reporting that the suspect is a Christian Dominionist Muslim Anti-Tax Basque Separatist OWS Ecoterrorist but there is no suspect in custody.

[i.imgur.com image 400x349]


i.imgur.com

Nope.
2013-04-15 10:41:51 PM  
1 votes:

mccallcl: So not only has the bombing been successful, and the perp(s) have left the scene, but unlike running a red light almost anywhere in the country, we have no footage of the perp(s).


Honestly, we just don't know that yet. I have a hard time believing that in this day and age nobody has footage of the packages, or a least the people responsible for planting the packages. That would be rare considering our love of cameras and videos now-a-days. However, even if they did have footage, I would think we probably wouldn't see it for some time since the police and Feds would keep a tight lid on any of it until they've veiwed it themselves. Surely there's footage of something out of the ordinary out there.
2013-04-15 10:41:14 PM  
1 votes:

walkerhound: Mister Pleco: I don't know if the device was in plain sight.  Earlier, I posted that there are two mailboxes located in the general vicinity of the blast by the finish line:  http://goo.gl/maps/rRmj9

At first I thought you were just clouded by the tinfoil, but i honestly bet that would explain the lower leg extremities (I bet those boxes are weaker at the bottom), the limitations of the blast, and the shrapnel.


I can up the tinfoil by pointing out that the footage of the second blast (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/video/20130415/boston-maratho n- second-blast.sportsillustrated/) is in this general area:  http://goo.gl/maps/xDSQB  There is another mailbox here, too.

/Don't believe in tinfoil. It just concentrates and directs the brainwaves into your skull.
2013-04-15 10:38:37 PM  
1 votes:

Vlad_the_Inaner: tenpoundsofcheese: The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians.

[www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov image 255x313]

Professor... Bomber... Adviser to Presidents


www.globalresearch.ca

and even become Fox News analysts
2013-04-15 10:37:56 PM  
1 votes:

way south: Not many amateurs have the means or experience to pull off multiple remote detonations.


This data point struck me as well. Remote, nearly simultaneous bomb explosions is not easy. And resulting in 130-some casualties. Target selection was perfect. Bomb placement was perfect. The bombs were likely small yet quite powerful. All point to experience and sophistication.
2013-04-15 10:36:03 PM  
1 votes:

Keizer_Ghidorah: Apparently you've forgotten what today is.


The day makes a little bit of sense.
The target makes much less sense.

Our home grown nutjobs nearly always target specific buildings/people. (OKC, IRS, Anthrax to legislators , etc.)
General mayhem isn't usually their MO.  Now if you tell me there is a federal building on the block or some important politician was suppose to be there, I'll change my mind, but the Times Square attempt from a while back shows that the Islamic guys are still trying, and frankly this kind of attack is very much their style. (of course they have a lot of styles....) but multiple small bombs targeting random civilians is very similar to the London, Spain and Bali attacks.  If that rental truck rumor from earlier is true, then it very much matches the "use small bombs to drive people to the big bomb" tactic.
2013-04-15 10:35:58 PM  
1 votes:
img14.imageshack.us
2013-04-15 10:34:35 PM  
1 votes:

super_grass: Infernalist: super_grass: Infernalist: America is not responsible for the hell that is the Middle East.

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 243x207]

Nice rebuttal.

There is no debate in the harm caused by America's interventionist policies in the mideast.

To deny its impact would be to deny the impact of the triangle trade. And it takes a special kind of "American exceptionalism" idiocy to do so.


There is plenty to debate in just how much harm America has caused in general in any region of the world.

But to blame the 'hell' that the ME is on the US is retarded, based in bias and completely ignorant of all the other mitigating factors that have played a part in crafting the Ninth layer of Hell that is the Middle East.

Such as religion, British-mandated borderlines, an addiction to oil that rivals the worst drugs, ignorance and ethnic hatreds that make anything the US has ever known seem paltry and petty by comparison.

But no, you go ahead and blame it all on the US.  We're totally responsible for how the ME turned out.

Retard.
2013-04-15 10:32:28 PM  
1 votes:

John Buck 41: super_grass: Keizer_Ghidorah: super_grass: farkingismybusiness: Here's some more EXTREMELY NSFW NSFL photos from immediately after the blasts.

Looks like the aftermath of a drone strike, terrible.

Just like any kind of explosion caused by any kind of explosive. What was the point of this little shiat-bit?

List them.

America got a little slice of middle eastern hell today and people need to know that others are suffering from this fate outside of the country too.

But I guess empathy is a non renewable resource not to be wasted on brown people, right? Bigot.

Call me crazy, but when something like this happens in the country I live in, I tend to pay a bit more attention to it. Got a problem with that? I don't care.


A narrow minded nationalist who can't conjure up even a minuscule of empathy for people outside of your imaginary lines?

People like you tend to lead to political disasters where your countrymen are sent overseas in fancy uniforms and returned in fancy boxes.
2013-04-15 10:32:03 PM  
1 votes:
Work in the John Handcock...

The building shook and what sounded like an artillery shell going off came from the finish line a block away. Every cop in the city was screaming down that way right withing minutes.  My heart immediately dropped into my stomach, cause I knew something bad just happened to a someone over there.  The sound was unmistakable to me.  Manhole fires and transformer explosions don't make that sound.

Thoughts are with the victims and rescue personal.  Marathon Monday, The Red Sox game, the re-enactment of Lexington and Concord.  It's a really special day for us and all of the area as we bid our normally harsh New England winters farewell.

I hope this don't change much, if anything in what we do.  If it does, they won.
2013-04-15 10:30:25 PM  
1 votes:

The Incredible Sexual Egg: robolobo: Find them

Track them

Kill them

Hang 'em in the Common


Burnin's too good for him. Hangin's too good for him. He should be torn into little itsy bitsy pieces and BURIED ALIVE!!!
www.heavymetal.com
2013-04-15 10:24:47 PM  
1 votes:

Your Average Witty Fark User: tripleseven:  Fox News shut off their comments on their site.  Apparently, they got tired of their own derp.  So, the derp moved to CNN and Yahoo news.

As I don't go to that site, I didn't know that- but it makes perfect sense.

meat0918: tripleseven: Your Average Witty Fark User: Somacandra: Your Average Witty Fark User: I can't believe the number of people commenting on places like CNN blaming this on Obama.

I don't see even the hypothetical connection. Are people actually suggesting it was some kind of drone strike from the White House on the Boston Marathon?

I've seen "It's Obama's fault because he didn't stop it", "It's Obama's fault because he golfed on Saturday", "It's Obama's fault because he planned this to happen", "Radical Islam did it, so Obama", "Democrats are behind this to increase the TSA so Obama", "Socialism, so Obama", "Obama lied about Beghazi, he's lying about this", "If Obama had just banned bombs like he wants to ban guns...", etc, etc, etc...

It makes me farking sick. CNN comments look like Fox News. It sickens me to think half of this country has an IQ of 3. Combined.

Fox News shut off their comments on their site.  Apparently, they got tired of their own derp.  So, the derp moved to CNN and Yahoo news.

Wow.

Just wow

We think we have trolls here on Fark.

Don't read the comments on CNN. These people genuinely believe what they're saying. And it's sickening.


I don't read the comments on the major news sites.

What was displayed on Facebook a few years ago drove me away from even that.  I shudder to think about what is on there today.  Maybe I just have shiatty family and friends.  I didn't like seeing the glimpses of what they really believed.

I'll make a tiny "+" to offset a larger "-"column now, because I have nothing original to offer at the moment.

i457.photobucket.com
2013-04-15 10:24:42 PM  
1 votes:

Worldwalker: On the other hand, if someone was specifically trying to kill one or more people in the crowd, and have it blamed on terrorism, that would be a good way to do it. People have crashed planes to kill someone on board them -- why not set off bombs? If I was the cops, I'd want to look really hard at the ex-spouses, spurned lovers, fired employees, etc., of everyone who was in that area at the time. It would not surprise me in the slightest to find the murderer among them.

Scenario: Fred is a former postal worker who wants to kill Charlie, the guy who fired him. He knows Charlie's son Joe is going to be running in the Boston Marathon. So he plants his bombs, and when Joe is close to the finish line, and Charlie is moving up to watch him finish, Fred sets off the bombs. Maybe he kills Charlie, maybe he has to try again later, but either way, nobody's looking at him. He was just a guy in the crowd, and not any sort of terrorist. Just, y'know, a guy with a major beef against someone else who he knew was going to be there.

Truth? Speculation? I dunno. But it doesn't seem to be anything anyone is looking at.


No one's mentioned that idea because it's completely retarded.

If you wanted to kill someone 'randomly' and deflect attention from your crime, you wouldn't murder a boatload of people with multiple explosive devices at a big marathon. Because the whole world is going to come down on your ass for what you just did. Forensic investigation is very good, and you're going to have hundreds of people searching for you, checking video, etc.

No, this is a terrorist attack, plain and simple. Doubtful it's domestic and organizational because within the US the FBI can and will literally dismantle any domestic terror organization responsible. Could be a couple of lone domestic terrorists, like McVeigh.  I personally think this was perpetrated by a foreign national.
2013-04-15 10:24:06 PM  
1 votes:
Don't we usually get a group claiming responsibility for this sort of thing by now?  It seems kind of strange that there's been a lot of silence on that front, especially with no one in custody.
2013-04-15 10:21:55 PM  
1 votes:

Amos Quito: Keizer_Ghidorah: Amos Quito: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: tenpoundsofcheese: Somacandra: hasty ambush: Did somebody say anti-government Domestic terrorist?

So you think Bill Ayers did this? You should probably let the FBI know if you have some information to that effect. That's what I would do.

The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians is an anti-government American.

Yeah, because if there is ONE THING that represents the abusive power of American Government, it's the Boston Marathon.

/Baked bean DERP

Lots of people available to kill and hurt. Lots of people and cameras watching. High-profile event.

At least try to think once in a while instead of immediately posting retarded idiocy.


Yeah, high-profile event with mucho media coverage. So?

Bombing the Boston Marathon as an "anti-Government" statement would make as much sense as PETA bombing an Arbor Day tree-planting.

/Double-Down-Derp


Apparently you've forgotten what today is.
2013-04-15 10:18:18 PM  
1 votes:

Vlad_the_Inaner: tenpoundsofcheese: The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians.

[www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov image 255x313]

Professor... Bomber... Adviser to Presidents


upload.wikimedia.org

"Amateur"
2013-04-15 10:10:34 PM  
1 votes:
serial_crusher: ok, this isn't rotten.com, guys.You're right. It's reality. Real life. Where crap happens and Disney isn't sitting outside your front door.Bad stuff happens in life. We don't like to accept it. The sooner you do, the easier you can get around in life. I would call myself slightly jaded for viewing sites like bestgore or the former site known as rotten, but at the same time I am a better person for it because I can easier accept tragedies when they happen, and displace my emotions to help others when needed or to look at things from a different perspective and perhaps learn from them as a result.Life is not all peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. It's closer to pimento cheese and bologna.
2013-04-15 10:10:31 PM  
1 votes:

super_grass: Keizer_Ghidorah: super_grass: farkingismybusiness: Here's some more EXTREMELY NSFW NSFL photos from immediately after the blasts.

Looks like the aftermath of a drone strike, terrible.

Just like any kind of explosion caused by any kind of explosive. What was the point of this little shiat-bit?

List them.

America got a little slice of middle eastern hell today and people need to know that others are suffering from this fate outside of the country too.

But I guess empathy is a non renewable resource not to be wasted on brown people, right? Bigot.


America is not responsible for the hell that is the Middle East.

But if they're responsible, we'll bring them a new kind of Hell.
2013-04-15 10:09:05 PM  
1 votes:

MrHappyRotter: Corn_Fed: It's not a true tragedy until Pat Robertson blames it all on the gays.

I'm fairly sure Westboro has already said this is punishment for Mass. allowing gay marriage, so close enough.  It's really amazing how much damage I was able to do considering I didn't even know about this until several hours after it happened and even though I haven't had sex in months.

I do apologize to all the straight folks that were killed and maimed because I chose to be attracted to men instead of women.


It's ok I still like you.

Hugs and kisses

Muir
2013-04-15 10:06:44 PM  
1 votes:

Infernalist: What if these bombs weren't home-made at all, but military equipment?


Then there would be a lot more people dead.
2013-04-15 10:04:58 PM  
1 votes:
ok, this isn't rotten.com, guys.
2013-04-15 10:04:25 PM  
1 votes:

stainpouch: If the steel bearings/balls come from a claymore, they'll know.  I think they were claymores, too.


Claymores would not make the amount of smoke seen. And the damage would have been much worse.
2013-04-15 10:04:24 PM  
1 votes:

Infernalist: Don't Claymore mines use ball-bearings?

And haven't they said that many of the injured were dealing with leg injuries?

Could the bombs have been military-grade claymore mines?


No not claymores. Those have a directional charge ( front towards enemy) this was probably a pretty simple pipe bomb or other canister type device. Claymores do use a type of soft metal ball bearing. It's the same thing they did in the Civil War with canister shot from cannons. This was not directional or a huge swath of the crowd would have gone down in one direction.
2013-04-15 10:03:29 PM  
1 votes:

CygnusDarius: Why the fark is the NY Post the only news outlet that has so many dead?


They may have confused it with the bombings that went on in Iraq today, which left about 50 dead.
2013-04-15 10:01:25 PM  
1 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: I'm surprised this doesn't happen more. Even with the restrictions in place, it's still relatively easy to find or make explosives. There's a never ending supply of nut jobs and an infinite supply of targets with absolutely no security measures in place, or even possible.


You left out the fact that there are very many folks the US has pissed of recently.  Some of them may even live here.  I am however very satisfied and happy with everything the goverment has ever done and in no way am I upset with anyone.  And I cannot use google to make so much as a loaf of bread let alone a b, b, bread loaf.
2013-04-15 10:01:04 PM  
1 votes:
From CNN:
[Update, 8:36 p.m. ET] Investigators have warned law enforcement officers to be on the lookout for a "darker-skinned or black male" with a possible foreign accent in connection with Monday's bombings at the Boston Marathon, according to a law enforcement advisory obtained by CNN.
The man was seen with a black backpack and sweatshirt and was trying to get into a restricted area about five minutes before the first explosion, the lookout notice states.

/Lost guy with dark skin now target of manhunt.
2013-04-15 10:00:36 PM  
1 votes:

Infernalist: Mistymtnhop: Infernalist: Don't Claymore mines use ball-bearings?

And haven't they said that many of the injured were dealing with leg injuries?

Could the bombs have been military-grade claymore mines?

my husband said the exact same thing. But where does someone get Claymore mines?

I would guess from a military weapons depot.  I don't know the particulars, but I would assume that the National Guard would have access?  Regular military?

We had so many injured and so few dead.  So many leg injuries.  I can easily see these things slicing into people at near knee-level


The weapon is speculated to be a pipebomb left in a backpack on the ground. It'd make more sense for the lower injuries. Claymore I'm not so sure.
2013-04-15 10:00:13 PM  
1 votes:

Amos Quito: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: tenpoundsofcheese: Somacandra: hasty ambush: Did somebody say anti-government Domestic terrorist?

So you think Bill Ayers did this? You should probably let the FBI know if you have some information to that effect. That's what I would do.

The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians is an anti-government American.

Yeah, because if there is ONE THING that represents the abusive power of American Government, it's the Boston Marathon.

/Baked bean DERP


Lots of people available to kill and hurt. Lots of people and cameras watching. High-profile event.

At least try to think once in a while instead of immediately posting retarded idiocy.
2013-04-15 10:00:03 PM  
1 votes:

Infernalist: What if these bombs weren't home-made at all, but military equipment?


What kind of military equipment creates the a big smoke cloud with minimal casualties?
2013-04-15 09:59:07 PM  
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: Somacandra: hasty ambush: Did somebody say anti-government Domestic terrorist?

So you think Bill Ayers did this? You should probably let the FBI know if you have some information to that effect. That's what I would do.

The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians.


Well, I guess we have a winner in the moron contest
2013-04-15 09:58:53 PM  
1 votes:

Mistymtnhop: Infernalist: Don't Claymore mines use ball-bearings?

And haven't they said that many of the injured were dealing with leg injuries?

Could the bombs have been military-grade claymore mines?

my husband said the exact same thing. But where does someone get Claymore mines?


I would guess from a military weapons depot.  I don't know the particulars, but I would assume that the National Guard would have access?  Regular military?

We had so many injured and so few dead.  So many leg injuries.  I can easily see these things slicing into people at near knee-level
2013-04-15 09:58:16 PM  
1 votes:

Your Average Witty Fark User: Somacandra: Your Average Witty Fark User: I can't believe the number of people commenting on places like CNN blaming this on Obama.

I don't see even the hypothetical connection. Are people actually suggesting it was some kind of drone strike from the White House on the Boston Marathon?

I've seen "It's Obama's fault because he didn't stop it", "It's Obama's fault because he golfed on Saturday", "It's Obama's fault because he planned this to happen", "Radical Islam did it, so Obama", "Democrats are behind this to increase the TSA so Obama", "Socialism, so Obama", "Obama lied about Beghazi, he's lying about this", "If Obama had just banned bombs like he wants to ban guns...", etc, etc, etc...

It makes me farking sick. CNN comments look like Fox News. It sickens me to think half of this country has an IQ of 3. Combined.


Fox News shut off their comments on their site.  Apparently, they got tired of their own derp.  So, the derp moved to CNN and Yahoo news.
2013-04-15 09:57:38 PM  
1 votes:

theknuckler_33: Vacation Bible School: T.rex: That #8 pic... the dude in the cowboy hat is holding the guy's femoral artery, keeping him from bleeding out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWHHWB3Jr60

Quick street interview with cowboy hat guy.

farkin' A man, that dude is trembling.

/powerful stuff


FTFA (Comments section):
For anyone not aware, this man is Carlos Arredondo, you can look him up on wikipedia. One of his sons, Marine Lance Corporal Alexander Arrendondo, was killed serving in Iraq in 2004. His only surviving son, Brian Arredondo, took his life in 2011. The two pins you see on his sweater are pictures of his sons.
And not only did he have to bear witness to yet another tragedy, but he saved a man's life. He is an amazingly brave man.


Jesus Christ.
2013-04-15 09:57:16 PM  
1 votes:

Infernalist: Don't Claymore mines use ball-bearings?

And haven't they said that many of the injured were dealing with leg injuries?

Could the bombs have been military-grade claymore mines?


Claymores use C4 which does not product the large clouds of smoke we saw.
2013-04-15 09:57:08 PM  
1 votes:
My personal theory is it'll be some fat good 'ol boy with White Supremacist ties.

Because it's always attractive and successful Nigerians and liberals under 200lbs that win these things, and that's not fair to 'Real Americans'.
2013-04-15 09:55:52 PM  
1 votes:

cretinbob: Tak the Hideous New Girl: I saw his Youtube interview. I hope Mr. Arrendondo gets some help and I really hope that the guy in picture #8 lives.

The more pictures I see of #8, and the fact that the hospitals I guess are extremely close, the more optimistic I am.
Yes, he's a bit pale which is to be expected from a hemorrhage of that magnitude, but he is conscious. That goes a long way.

Fiction Fan: Have the assholes at Westboro Church released a statement yet?

Of course they have


More proof that there is no god. If I was the big man and someone who claimed to follow my words was doing this, I would descend from the heavens and make a very public example of him with all of my divine powers on display.
2013-04-15 09:52:38 PM  
1 votes:
kinda thought he "hit the deck" after the explosion, too You can see that the two girls on the sidelines, closer to the blast, with the yellow raincoats on are also started, but the aren't knocked off their feet. My husband, however, says look at the man's knees when he goes down, they look like they buckle. Like he was hit with shrapnel. But I think someone said earlier that the man was okay? Does anyone know?
g

=====

78-year-old Bill Iffrig. He's okay.
He went down from a combination of the concussion of the blast and a small piece of shrapnel cut his leg.
He stated the officials you see in the picture helped him back up, assisted him in crossing the finish line, then found him a wheelchair to get help for his leg, which was mostly just scraped up.
2013-04-15 09:52:37 PM  
1 votes:
Bonanza Jellybean: "Free plot point: The RFID chips attached to runners' shoes were used to trigger the bomb(s)."

While powered by the magnetic field of the reader, an RFID tag can be read from *maybe* a couple of meters.
The bomb would have to be essentially laying *on* the mats to have a *chance* of being triggered directly by a tag. And even then, the device could be foiled by something as simple as the particular tag being used for the trigger, crossing the mat slightly-too-far-away.

That said, you just need to carry the thought through: the RFID chips are read and processed by the race commission to produce times and send alerts to fans/friends/family.  So keep the bog standard cell-phone detonator, but just make it a phone that was subscribed to receive SMS race updates.  This is still advantageous to the bomber, as they don't have to place the call that triggers the devices themselves, robbing investigators of yet-another clue.
2013-04-15 09:52:13 PM  
1 votes:
If it was a "terrorist" attack, don't terrorists usually have a list of demands or at least a statement to go along with the attack? Maybe it was just some nutjob with a homemade bomb. They're probably not hard to make, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often.
2013-04-15 09:52:07 PM  
1 votes:
Don't Claymore mines use ball-bearings?

And haven't they said that many of the injured were dealing with leg injuries?

Could the bombs have been military-grade claymore mines?
2013-04-15 09:47:28 PM  
1 votes:

Tak the Hideous New Girl: I saw his Youtube interview. I hope Mr. Arrendondo gets some help and I really hope that the guy in picture #8 lives.


The more pictures I see of #8, and the fact that the hospitals I guess are extremely close, the more optimistic I am.
Yes, he's a bit pale which is to be expected from a hemorrhage of that magnitude, but he is conscious. That goes a long way.

Fiction Fan: Have the assholes at Westboro Church released a statement yet?


Of course they have
2013-04-15 09:46:32 PM  
1 votes:

PumpkinCake: jaytkay: PumpkinCake: IlGreven: Also, if you're gonna give to the Red Cross, give a little bit more to Joe Andruzzi's foundation.  After how he handled the aftermath, his charity deserves a little attention, too.

This is a really dumb question, but I'm out in CA.  Would donating blood help all the way over here?

/O- and I know where the donation clinic is in town already, just a question of curiosity.

Do it. Donating blood always helps someone.

It helped me. I needed 8 or so when I was younger. I then married a man who is also O-, and we have a bunch of O- babies in our house. We're donating our whole lives to help people.

I was just curious if it would help the people in Boston. I remember after 9-11 we got turned away by some snotty people at the Red Cross when we tried to donate, and maybe I should just let that go.


Don't go to the Red Cross. Go to your local hospital. Nothing exactly horribly wrong with it, because there is a useful economy in blood, but the Red Cross resells blood to the hospitals for a markup.
2013-04-15 09:45:07 PM  
1 votes:

ScaryBottles: Who did you have your heart set on blaming?

Koreans?

Iranians?

Mooselimbs?

Palestinians?

You go ahead and blame whoever makes you feel better. Mmmkay?

I'm not blaming anyone I have no idea who did you're the one jumping to conclusions.



LOL!

I laid out the three most likely scenarios as to who may have done this:

1. TERRORISTS - domestic or foreign who are either acting out of perceived "revenge" or are trying to make a "statement".

2. False-Flag - an act committed by one party with the specific intent of having a third party (or group) blamed - the goal being political gain.

3. Crazies who have no motive other than destruction.

What other possibility could there be?

Maybe it was an accident?
2013-04-15 09:43:12 PM  
1 votes:

Somacandra: hasty ambush: Did somebody say anti-government Domestic terrorist?

So you think Bill Ayers did this? You should probably let the FBI know if you have some information to that effect. That's what I would do.


The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians.
2013-04-15 09:43:05 PM  
1 votes:
 In the first video of the explosion, you see a runner going down and rolling on his back. He was hit by something.


I watched that a couple times and thought there was just as good a chance he rolled his ankle or twisted his knee in distraction. Or maybe just fell from freight.


Actually he was hit by shrapnel in his leg.
He was just interviewed on CNN.
He's a 74-year-old professional runner, with 45 marathons in his past and this being his third Boston.
Race officials helped him up, carried him to the finish line to let him finish, then immediately insisted he get in a wheelchair and be taken for treatment at one of the triage tents.
2013-04-15 09:41:56 PM  
1 votes:

Fiction Fan: Have the assholes at Westboro Church released a statement yet?


Oh yeah.  In times like this, it's almost a relief to know that there are still a few constants in the world.  "Fred Phelps is going to act like a complete prick" is one of those constants.
2013-04-15 09:40:50 PM  
1 votes:

Fiction Fan: Have the assholes at Westboro Church released a statement yet?


Yes.  The blame for this falls upon the shoulders and loins of the gays.
2013-04-15 09:40:07 PM  
1 votes:
Reporters saying, "DO NOT COME OUT".

I'm ga---ooops.
2013-04-15 09:39:48 PM  
1 votes:

cretinbob: farkingismybusiness: "The man in the cowboy hat is Carlos Arredondo. He is an immigrant citizen of the U.S. who lost his son in Iraq and is now a peace activist and speaker. When the explosions happened, you can see that he did not hesitate to run towards the chaos and help, obviously trying to get this poor man out of there and to hold a tourniquet on one of his severed legs. Later, he was being interviewed, visibly shaking from shock and holding an American flag, soaked in the blood of other people. Carlos Arredondo's selflessness and bravery should be known and applauded."

qft


I saw his Youtube interview. I hope Mr. Arrendondo gets some help and I really hope that the guy in picture #8 lives.
2013-04-15 09:39:20 PM  
1 votes:

hasty ambush: Did somebody say anti-government Domestic terrorist?


So you think Bill Ayers did this? You should probably let the FBI know if you have some information to that effect. That's what I would do.
2013-04-15 09:39:14 PM  
1 votes:

bionicjoe: I don't care about conspiracy theories, but what exactly is meant by 'false flag'? 
Is this a holdover from the NFL replacement refs?

Really. No idea. 
I used to listen to George Noory a bunch when I was on third shift and had hours & hours alone. LOL-factory usually. Alex Jones is a twit.


To use an attack to frame your enemy.  If nobody takes credit or a dead martyr isn't found, it is probably a false flag.
2013-04-15 09:38:32 PM  
1 votes:
You can check my backpack when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.
2013-04-15 09:35:37 PM  
1 votes:

PumpkinCake: IlGreven: Also, if you're gonna give to the Red Cross, give a little bit more to Joe Andruzzi's foundation.  After how he handled the aftermath, his charity deserves a little attention, too.

This is a really dumb question, but I'm out in CA.  Would donating blood help all the way over here?

/O- and I know where the donation clinic is in town already, just a question of curiosity.


Do it. Donating blood always helps someone.
2013-04-15 09:34:39 PM  
1 votes:
I saw picture 8, and the associated video.  I've seen worse.

I have a cousin that lives a couple blocks over, and two that both work at Mass General.  They've checked in, so I know they're physically ok, but I'm still worried about the two at the hospital.  I wish I could trade places with them so they didn't have to see this.
2013-04-15 09:31:55 PM  
1 votes:
I just figured something out for the tinfoil-hat crowd. According to this source (link in spanish), former Mexican president Felipe Calderon was amongst the crowd. He was the one that started using the army against the cartels (the reason why the violence in Mexico has started to grow).

If this was caused by a drug cartel that wanted him dead, well... You guys wanted US troops in Mexico?.
2013-04-15 09:30:13 PM  
1 votes:

Vacation Bible School: T.rex: That #8 pic... the dude in the cowboy hat is holding the guy's femoral artery, keeping him from bleeding out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWHHWB3Jr60

Quick street interview with cowboy hat guy.


Wow, when that guy's adrenaline wears off he's gonna be a mess.
2013-04-15 09:26:47 PM  
1 votes:
Whoever mentioned ESPN's coverage of this. Thank you very much.

CNN and the rest of its cable friends are worthless since now at this point they are just speculating stuff out of thin air.
2013-04-15 09:26:06 PM  
1 votes:

Lars The Canadian Viking: Didn't see this mentioned so far, but it looks like whoever did this kinda sucked at making bombs: People are saying they could smell gun powder, there was a lot of smoke, people not too far away seemed fine, and not much shockwaveish damage, so it looks like it was gunpowder based, probably a pipe bomb type thing which is going to be mostly shrapnel injuries. Different story if he had used proper high explosives.


I just said the same thing to my wife - no shockwave in the video, tons of smoke, buildings still all look like they kept their glass on the front. All I know about explosives is what I watch on Youtube and what I've read in the Improvised Munitions Handbook, but gunpowder and not something requiring a detonator was my guess, too.
2013-04-15 09:25:51 PM  
1 votes:

sporkme: Some loon at the latest press conference got the first question.

"Blah derpity blah ....is this another false flag operation to take away our freedom and have homeland security sticking their hands down our pants in the street!?"

Stern look.. "No."

/next


Maybe a stupid question to ask but that is exactly what is going to happen.
2013-04-15 09:25:35 PM  
1 votes:
Gov. Patrick shuts down the false flag question. Link
2013-04-15 09:25:08 PM  
1 votes:

mudpants: What picture #8 ?


It's a dude in a wheel chair with his legs blown off. His left shin bone is totally exposed with the flesh blown away and skin hanging off what's left of his leg. Carlos Arredondo is holding his artery shut so he doesn't die.
2013-04-15 09:24:41 PM  
1 votes:
Also, if you're gonna give to the Red Cross, give a little bit more to Joe Andruzzi's foundation.  After how he handled the aftermath, his charity deserves a little attention, too.
2013-04-15 09:21:18 PM  
1 votes:

the lord god: DamnYankees: Wow, first question to Patrick is whether this is a false flag. What the hell.

WTF was that? Better question who is that douchebag?


It's believed to be a guy from InfoWars. You know...Alex Jones...government behind all things bad...IQ of a sandal...
2013-04-15 09:21:15 PM  
1 votes:

Vacation Bible School: T.rex: That #8 pic... the dude in the cowboy hat is holding the guy's femoral artery, keeping him from bleeding out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWHHWB3Jr60

Quick street interview with cowboy hat guy.


That guy needs treatment for shock himself.
2013-04-15 09:21:05 PM  
1 votes:

Mock26: So, has anyone in this thread yet blamed the government for this?


i.imgur.com

That is not a hair question.
2013-04-15 09:20:41 PM  
1 votes:

Mock26: So, has anyone in this thread yet blamed the government for this?


I'm just waiting for Pat Robertson to come on at 10pm and blame the gays and the abortionists.
2013-04-15 09:19:23 PM  
1 votes:
CBS mentioned Inspire magazine--the official magazine of Al Qaeda--stated in last month's issue that readers weren't supposed to sign up for membership and training. They should instead read the directions of how to bomb and just do things on their own.

This might be the outcome of that issue of Inspire.
2013-04-15 09:16:47 PM  
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: Here is another angle of the Picture #8 guy. NSFW GORE The Cowboy is squeezing his artery.

"The man in the cowboy hat is Carlos Arredondo. He is an immigrant citizen of the U.S. who lost his son in Iraq and is now a peace activist and speaker. When the explosions happened, you can see that he did not hesitate to run towards the chaos and help, obviously trying to get this poor man out of there and to hold a tourniquet on one of his severed legs. Later, he was being interviewed, visibly shaking from shock and holding an American flag, soaked in the blood of other people. Carlos Arredondo's selflessness and bravery should be known and applauded."


Dude has brass balls for doing that. I couldn't bring myself to touch that. Ugh. Awesome hero, though.
2013-04-15 09:15:06 PM  
1 votes:
I just got an email from a cousin who has a studio 1/2 block away from the explosion. I was getting worried, turns out that she was sick and slept all day just waking up to this horror.
2013-04-15 09:14:04 PM  
1 votes:
Some Canadian guy just told his local newspaper that some crazy raving woman warned people on Saturday that they'd die if they ran in the Marathon.

Link
2013-04-15 09:13:01 PM  
1 votes:
The Man In Orange -- as he's known (since I'm calling him that) is Bill Iffrig, a 78-year-old runner who has been in more than 45 marathons, this being his 3rd Boston Marathon. He's being interviewed on Piers Morgan on CNN as I type this tonight.

Basically, he's the guy who was in the orange in the race and fell from the force of explosion.
Bill said he had a cut on his leg, and was helped up by a race official to the few hundred feet to the finish line to ensure that he (Bill) finished. Once there, they insisted on getting a wheelchair for him to help treat his injuries.
2013-04-15 09:11:38 PM  
1 votes:

sheep snorter: Ring leaders to be rounded up for this domestic terrorism by the TeaParty:
Limbaugh
Beck
Koch bros
Bachmann
And the rest.

/Its time to clean house and send them to Gitmo.


YES - Purge the people whos politics I disagree with!

/how american
2013-04-15 09:09:51 PM  
1 votes:

way south: Amos Quito: ScaryBottles: Amos Quito: Deducing who the culprits might be in such a situation:

1. TERRORISTS: Look at those who are "most likely" to have reason to commit such an act out of hatred.

2. FALSE FLAG: Look at the ENEMIES of category 1, as they might benefit from creating enemies of their enemies.


In other words, you ask the simple question: WHO BENEFITS?

3. CRAZIES: Consider that it MAY have been committed by one or more lunatics with NO apparent motive other than death and destruction.

Do you really believe that?


What part do you question?

False flags are kinda rare tho. Issue being that these attacks cost alot of money and take alot of effort to carry out.
You don't build a pyramid just to throw the blame on the Romans. You want to be given your due (and show your creditors and supporters your handiwork).

I'm still going with foreign terrorism, and I'll raise that bet to say the people responsible either tried or will try to take credit.
Its probably lost in the chaos but I'd find it odd if they didn't.

/if it was a false flag with no one blamed and no fake video or letter to blame them, that wouldn't make any sense at all.


Ah, but rumor has it that they found a THIRD, unexploded device that could be chock-full of "clues", real or planted.

Given the small size, limited destruction and (apparent) crude nature of the devices, I would think it unlikely that it was either a foreign-sponsored act OR a false-flag, as in either case one would expect more sophistication and effectiveness.

I'm thinking either a lone crazy or possibly a small group of crazies with a "bone to pick", or just wanting to raise hell for the sadistic thrill - like an arsonist might do.

Curiously, most similar events here in the US over the past 10 years have turned out to be clowns that the FBI literally created from scratch - even going so far as to buy their "bombs", pay their rent, buy them phones, etc.

Is it possible that one of the stupid-crazy "terrorists they were trying to set up "got loose?
2013-04-15 09:07:38 PM  
1 votes:
Samwise Gamgee: Begoggle: locustfajita: religion of peace?

There aren't any.


At least the buddhists typically only immolate themselves.

i.imgur.com

That's a big negatory on that. Common myth.
2013-04-15 09:06:40 PM  
1 votes:

USA Prime Credit Peggy: I didn't even look at pic 8, and the blood has left my lower legs/feet for about an hour now. Ugh.


I cracked and looked. It wasn't as bad as seeing brain matter on a pizza box after a double-homicide.

/consider the scale, and click appropriately
//I have no idea why it wasn't as bad, but it wasn't
2013-04-15 09:06:11 PM  
1 votes:
This has been a dark day for Boston.  Except when the explosions went off.  It was pretty bright for a fraction of a second at that time.
2013-04-15 09:06:01 PM  
1 votes:

IlGreven: bdub77: CygnusDarius: The Incredible Sexual Egg: CNN is reporting the BPD put out a report telling people to be on the look out of a black guy with a backpack and an accent....or every cab driver in Boston

I guess it's a bad time to be a back-packing Jamaican.

Or the winner of the marathon. Because not only did your big win get overshadowed by some terrorist attack, you're probably wanted for questioning as a black foreign national.

Actually, it would sort of make sense with someone from Sudan, Uganda, Somalia, or...and brace for the Birfers...Kenya...who had some beef with the US over their handling of East Africa's problems.  Plus, it falls right in line with them being distance runners, thus intimately familiar with marathon routes and procedures.


I don't entirely disagree with you. It wasn't one of the winners though. Could have been one of the runners or their handlers, though I still think that's unlikely. You don't run a marathon and then blow people up. Trust me. There's a good risk you'd get injured or have to go to a medical tent during the race, which happens to the very best of them.

Probably some black foreign national who didn't look out of place carrying a bunch of backbacks at an endurance event with elite runners.
2013-04-15 09:05:48 PM  
1 votes:
That #8 pic... the dude in the cowboy hat is holding the guy's femoral artery, keeping him from bleeding out.
2013-04-15 09:05:20 PM  
1 votes:

sporkme: "Blah derpity blah ....is this another false flag operation to take away our freedom and have homeland security sticking their hands down our pants in the street!?"

Stern look.. "No."


The governor's a better man, I would've Buzz Aldrin'd the farker.
2013-04-15 09:03:48 PM  
1 votes:
Wow, first question to Patrick is whether this is a false flag. What the hell.
2013-04-15 09:02:25 PM  
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Prepare to soon strip yourselves fully naked at the airport, spreading your asscheeks wide open and bending over goh-tzee style as you slowly march backwards towards the gloved TSA finger into it slides in deep.

/Gonna be a farking field day for every pedophile TSA goon out there.


As an IT consultant, this makes me have a sadface.jpg
2013-04-15 09:01:45 PM  
1 votes:

bdub77: AlwaysRightBoy: I've had national guard, bomb sniffing dogs, full assualt weapons and radiation sniffers at Penn Station in NYC since 9/11.

It's called my daily commute.

I remember watching the 60 minutes on NYC security. That city is basically on total lockdown when it comes to terror. Among other measures, they have boats that do nothing but roam around the island of Manhattan looking for unusual radiation signatures.


Couldn't be that old EPA freighter I see twice a day?


Three times as many cops on the street at rush hour.
2013-04-15 09:00:34 PM  
1 votes:

fo_sho!: Sid_6.7: PunGent: Again, NO. You're cruising for an ignoring...today is NOT the day for this kind of apologist crap, frankly.

621 people disagree with you.

Permanently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army_campa ig n_1969%E2%80%931997#Casualties

There's a difference between being an apologist and pointing out that the IRA was not indiscriminately into terror bombing civilians during the Troubles.

You're also ignoring all the deaths inflicted by the other sides in that conflict.

Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles#Casualties

And you know what? The worst bombing that occurred, the one in Omagh, had several telephone calls placed warning well in advance that the bomb was going to go off. There was confusion about where the bomb was on the part of the authorities, and that was what contributed to the casualties.

It was a terrible, reprehensible act, that should not have been done, but still, nevertheless, calls were placed warning about it ahead of time.

Fark off. As someone who lives in the UK at the time, the IRA called in false bomb threats continually so the signal to noise ratio made it a crapshoot.
I lived less than 10 miles from the site of the Warrington bombings, set in trash cans outside stores in a busy shoppi g centre on the Saturday before Mothers Day.
They called in an alert that a bomb had been planted outside Boots - that's like calling in an alert saying there is a bomb by a Walgreens somewhere in the US.
A three year old and an eleven year old were killed, shopping for Mother's Day.
Didn't target civilians - bullshiat.
Then there is the Xmas pub bombing campaign...


There was the time they grabbed a Brit military man who was with his wife and children shopping for shoes. They took him out in the street and shot him to death in front of his family.

Or the two Brits who went for a drive and got lost. And dragged out of their car and beat to death.
2013-04-15 09:00:22 PM  
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: According to the WSJ:  Breaking: Officials found what they believe are five additional, undetonated explosive devices in Boston area.

The bomber(s) only had a 29% success rate with. Even the shoe bomber's like "C'mon, man."


obviously it was domestic terrorism because foreign engineers know how to build things.
2013-04-15 09:00:15 PM  
1 votes:

Longtime Lurker: Jesus Christ, some guy at the Press Conference just asked if this was all a plot to take our handguns away and to curtail civil liberties.


The curt response was priceless and now they're ignoring him.
2013-04-15 08:59:06 PM  
1 votes:

RockChalkH1N1: PostApocalypticTribe: wth is this picture 8 you guys keep talking about?

BUMP


Its all over that chan site, but dont go there ever.  Its a scary place.

Posting the pic here will get you banninated, so there we are.
2013-04-15 08:57:52 PM  
1 votes:
Prepare to soon strip yourselves fully naked at the airport, spreading your asscheeks wide open and bending over goh-tzee style as you slowly march backwards towards the gloved TSA finger into it slides in deep.

/Gonna be a farking field day for every pedophile TSA goon out there.
2013-04-15 08:56:54 PM  
1 votes:

Fiction Fan: Probably one of the more graphic ones to come out of this other than photos of the dead little boy


Horribly wounded adult males I can handle.  You can't pay me enough to see a pic of a dead kid.  I can barely sleep as it is, don't need a neuron devoted to that image.
2013-04-15 08:56:34 PM  
1 votes:

Dougie AXP: Boston Pic #8?


It's a guy sitting in a wheelchair looking confused because his legs end in bones, gristle and blood vessels somewhere below his knees.
2013-04-15 08:56:32 PM  
1 votes:

PostApocalypticTribe: wth is this picture 8 you guys keep talking about?


Think Kevin Ware's leg bones, with everything below that melted, Mars Attacks! style.
2013-04-15 08:55:33 PM  
1 votes:

Badgers: GoldSpider: ...and of course here come all the "thoughts and prayers" flooding Facebook from people who desperately want to feel like they've contributed something and were 'a part" of the event.

Replace "prayers" with "faps". It's about as useful and similarly self-centered...


If opinions are like assholes then you two are like an opinion.
2013-04-15 08:54:50 PM  
1 votes:
wth is this picture 8 you guys keep talking about?

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2013/04/photos-of-the-boston-mara th on-bombing/100495/

The Atlanta has 16 pictures of the bombing.
Picture number eight has a man in a wheelchair whose lower leg is....well, stew meat.
It's barely recognizable as a limb, and he appears to have bleeding under control only because he also appears to be missing all of his veins and arteries.

It's...pretty graphic.
Probably one of the more graphic ones to come out of this other than photos of the dead little boy which I'm sure will hit the 'net sooner or later, probably through bestgore.com or something similar.
2013-04-15 08:54:48 PM  
1 votes:
2013-04-15 08:54:45 PM  
1 votes:

MyRandomName: MFAWG: Nadie_AZ: sheep snorter: Ring leaders to be rounded up for this domestic terrorism by the TeaParty:
Limbaugh
Beck
Koch bros
Bachmann
And the rest.

/Its time to clean house and send them to Gitmo.

How can anyone say who did what. While I don't agree with these people or their policies, I'm not ready to sacrifice liberty for something something maybe sorta looks like security.

Because a bombing related to a live sporting event like the Olympics on Tax Day positively reeks of domestic right wing terrorism

Good to see liberals not letting a crisis go to waste and blaming political opponents on the first opportunity.

What a sick fark.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/15/1201991/-WND-columnist-call s- for-Muslims-to-be-killed-in-wake-of-today-s-horror-in-Boston
2013-04-15 08:53:42 PM  
1 votes:

theotherles: I forgot to mention this:

The running of the marathon commemorates the defeat of an attempt by the Persian Empire to conquer Greece. The battle took place on the Plain of Marathon in 490 BC. It was a victory of Western Civilization over Asiatic Despotism. As such it may have the most important battle fought in history.


It fails to point out that after defeating "asiatic despotism" we opted for Western Despotism for a millenium and a half.
2013-04-15 08:52:15 PM  
1 votes:

tinyarena: Gee, they put ball bearings in the bombs?

I hope they're still in Boston.  If they get caught in Boston - they will never leave.
Boston is a lovely town, but even the old-lady-Boston-socialites, would tear the bomber(s) limb from limb.


There was a series of rapes in the North End a few years ago. The North End is the Italian section.

At one point, the rapes stopped and the police stopped investigating.

There's a lot of speculation that the rapist was found by the Legitmate Businessman's Society and politely asked to stop, and the BPD was informed that they wouldn't find him.
2013-04-15 08:50:07 PM  
1 votes:
My news from Southie after a crazy day:
Bruins game cancelled.
Local officials telling people "not to congregate", which is just weird, everyone I know is just staying away from landmarks tonight.
Boston Athletic Club hosted BPD and statie running groups today, they were talking about using our facilities for a staging center for people displaced/locked out of crime scene areas, but decided that they didn't need to, and despite many of the police leaving gear at the club, everyone seems to be getting to business without any undue fuss.
Local pd said the latest they heard was that the fires at JFK weren't related.
A lot of ginned up pissed off locals who had to end at mile 22-24, promising death and mayhem for cowardly turrists.
Carbing-up continues, supplies of Harpoon IPA and Prince spaghetti running low.
All news is bullshiat today, expect a different story tomorrow.

Peace, hope you and yours are well.
2013-04-15 08:49:45 PM  
1 votes:
According to the WSJ:  Breaking: Officials found what they believe are five additional, undetonated explosive devices in Boston area.

The bomber(s) only had a 29% success rate with. Even the shoe bomber's like "C'mon, man."
2013-04-15 08:49:30 PM  
1 votes:
Gee, they put ball bearings in the bombs?

I hope they're still in Boston.  If they get caught in Boston - they will never leave.
Boston is a lovely town, but even the old-lady-Boston-socialites, would tear the bomber(s) limb from limb.
2013-04-15 08:49:13 PM  
1 votes:

Cluckity: Ladies and gentleman, I give you Erik Rush.

[pbs.twimg.com image 457x352]


Well take him back. His brain isn't done developing yet.
2013-04-15 08:48:59 PM  
1 votes:

tinfoil-hat maggie: Yea, Hubie is one of my favorite Farkers when I want and need a rational perspective on things.


What about mild leering, double entendre, Firefly Motivators, and sessy rockabilly chicks?

I AM more than just a mind, dammit. ;)
2013-04-15 08:48:55 PM  
1 votes:

FriarReb98: I need to think about something off topic so here goes:

If the Sox weren't going out of town for three days, do you think they'd still have tomorrow's game? Also, what in the hell is Fenway gonna be like on Friday when they come back?  For that matter, how about the Celtics tomorrow or the Bruins on Wednesday night?? Those are gonna be clusterfarks of security, I'd imagine....


The celtics game tomorrow is cancelled, not to be rescheduled.

At North Station today, everyone getting on a train was searched.
2013-04-15 08:48:31 PM  
1 votes:

Sid_6.7: PunGent: Again, NO. You're cruising for an ignoring...today is NOT the day for this kind of apologist crap, frankly.

621 people disagree with you.

Permanently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army_campa ig n_1969%E2%80%931997#Casualties

There's a difference between being an apologist and pointing out that the IRA was not indiscriminately into terror bombing civilians during the Troubles.

You're also ignoring all the deaths inflicted by the other sides in that conflict.

Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles#Casualties

And you know what? The worst bombing that occurred, the one in Omagh, had several telephone calls placed warning well in advance that the bomb was going to go off. There was confusion about where the bomb was on the part of the authorities, and that was what contributed to the casualties.

It was a terrible, reprehensible act, that should not have been done, but still, nevertheless, calls were placed warning about it ahead of time.


Fark off. As someone who lives in the UK at the time, the IRA called in false bomb threats continually so the signal to noise ratio made it a crapshoot.
I lived less than 10 miles from the site of the Warrington bombings, set in trash cans outside stores in a busy shoppi g centre on the Saturday before Mothers Day.
They called in an alert that a bomb had been planted outside Boots - that's like calling in an alert saying there is a bomb by a Walgreens somewhere in the US.
A three year old and an eleven year old were killed, shopping for Mother's Day.
Didn't target civilians - bullshiat.
Then there is the Xmas pub bombing campaign...
2013-04-15 08:46:08 PM  
1 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mike Chewbacca: I think we need an "I SAW BOSTON'S PIC #8" badge.

Brief NSFW video of same guy.


Yeeeeaaaaaaaah, there's no way in hell I'm watching that. At least in the still his leg is so destroyed it's not even recognizable as a leg anymore. That actually helped me a bit because I can't identify with that injury.
2013-04-15 08:44:58 PM  
1 votes:

namegoeshere: Massholes get an extra grace day to file state taxes


PA gets two, this year
2013-04-15 08:43:44 PM  
1 votes:

miss diminutive: hubiestubert: So far, all my Boston peeps have checked in or been confirmed to be OK.

I'm going to go out on a limb here. I'm not going to pretend that I'm not angry about this. I'm not going to pretend to not want the folks responsible found, but I am going to suggest that maybe we dial back the rage, and not point fingers just yet, until the folks on the ground actually do their jobs. I know that speculation IS something we are all pretty good at, but at this point, things are spotty information-wise, and while there are professional fear mongers who are slathering at the chance to advance their ratings and their own agendas, it would be satisfying as f*ck if we DIDN'T give in to their game. Folks are looking to hop on this event, and ride it for all their worth, and advance as many crack pot theories and conspiracies, and spin human tragedy into their own brand of gold. Let's let folks do their jobs, find the scum responsible, and maybe NOT jump to conclusions until we get something confirmed. Domestic, Islamic, some other brand of terrorist, it is up in the air, and gesticulating wildly doesn't really do any good, nor pointing fingers and getting hett up at idiots who want to pump up "their" side, when the sad fact is, there aren't a lot of sides here. Just a lot of folks who got hurt, and they were our neighbors and friends, and maybe we should find out who did this, before screaming for them to get strung up, and volunteering folks for the gallows early.

Just a thought. Let's get the facts in first. Then maybe we can even bring them to trial, and see justice done. Of course, being Boston, the suspects may just have a serious trip and fall accident on the way to their cell block or even leaving the scene of their arrest, but let's at least give the police and the FBI a chance to identify folks before screaming that ONE side or ANOTHER was responsible.
Just a thought.

Couldn't have said it better myself. There's a reason why you always appear in green.


Yea, Hubie is one of my favorite Farkers when I want and need a rational perspective on things.
2013-04-15 08:43:37 PM  
1 votes:

LessO2: Haven't had the brass ones to see the Ware injury, but Picture #8 is a still shot, and there's something different about that.


The still shot of Ware's leg was worse than the video feed, IMO.

And someone claimed Al Jazeera showed video of the guy... holy shiatballs that would be awful.
2013-04-15 08:43:32 PM  
1 votes: