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2013-04-16 01:31:38 AM

Void_Beavis: fark you asshole


Behold, the words of the man who claims to know how to properly secure a large scale event in a metropolitan area. The words of a man who, within mere hours of a tragedy occuring, has the wisdom and knowledge to correctly assign blame on those whose negligence were responsible for said tragedy. And throughout all of this work he's done, he still has time to type out a "fark you asshole" on the internet.

Fight on, brave soldier.
 
2013-04-16 01:32:17 AM

Bennie Crabtree: Thank you Farkers. I had a lot of friends asking where to get information about the bombings and I directed them to your threads on the mainpage. This website is fantastic.

Boston must be a very scary palce to be right now. If the library was in fact bombed as well, then who knows what else is rigged. That would make the perpetrator an unpredictable Gotham City style villain. Yikes!


The library was an incidental fire that hurt no one.  No explosive device was used there. ABC says that it was not a bomb, just a random thing.  A city the size of Boston is going to have fires and stuff everyday.
 
2013-04-16 01:33:09 AM
While this is not a time for partisan politics, it is instructive to consider the level of over-reaction that would be going on right now if Bush were still president.
 
2013-04-16 01:33:19 AM

Boojum2k: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Annnnnnnd now a US Blackhawk helicopter just crashed near the North Korean border.  Not exactly a slow news day.

Aw fark. Really?




Reported by multiple news agencies on twitter, FWIW. Good news is, apparently no casualties:

https://twitter.com/newsbreaker/status/324029642904317952
 
2013-04-16 01:33:22 AM

Let's have a clear, thorough investigation to absolutely ensure that we have the correct people responsible for this. Because...

cairoscene.com


I don't care about skin color, religion, or whatever. We should not only punish those responsible but eradicate their ideologies completely.
 
2013-04-16 01:33:36 AM

Samwise Gamgee: Void_Beavis: During a marathon of this size, the crowd density will be thickest at the starting point, as well as the finish line. Lock down those areas at least. Then work from there. Removing trash cans and placing receptacles in areas which are far from crowds is part of that common sense standard protocol. Having dogs present working through those crowds in those areas searching for unattended packages is another common sense standard protocol. From all indications, neither of these things were performed at this event. If true, it's irresponsible.

Now I'm sure you're trolling, so this will be my last response to your idiocy. Please just shut the fark up, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

 You're still missing the point that no security can ever be enough for this sort of thing. And now you're talking about sniffing dogs wandering through streets covered in litter because there are no trash cans. Dogs like to sniff random trash. There are thousands of people about. You can't honestly thing a couple of 'bomb sniffing dogs' are going to rule out this sort of tragedy. Ever known a dog that DIDN'T sniff a trash can?

 And if you think that I'm 'trolling' because I'm arguing with your idiocy, then, well... that's just another subject you don't know anything about.

 /Not the one calling for security to be 'held accountable' as if they were the murderers


You know, if you're not even going to actually read what I wrote, I'm not going to repeat it again.
 
2013-04-16 01:33:50 AM

shower_in_my_socks: Boojum2k: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Annnnnnnd now a US Blackhawk helicopter just crashed near the North Korean border.  Not exactly a slow news day.

Aw fark. Really?

Link. According to TFA, everyone on board survived.


Black Hawk Down 2: Kimchi Boogaloo?.
 
2013-04-16 01:34:07 AM

Boojum2k: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Annnnnnnd now a US Blackhawk helicopter just crashed near the North Korean border.  Not exactly a slow news day.

Aw fark. Really?


No.

But there was a wave of attacks in Iraq.

Can't tell me it isn't connected...
 
2013-04-16 01:34:08 AM

Amos Quito: Boojum2k: InmanRoshi: Didn't they do precisely that with 9/11?

Nope. Al Qaeda always remaisn very cagey about their attacks, they praise them but do not take specific credit for them.


If you were an imaginary "terr-rist organization", wouldn't you do the same?


 If I was a smart "terr-ist" organization that's how I'd do it, particularly in that part of the world. I'm actually surprised they aren't more successful, particularly against the House of Saud. Given how awful the Saudi's are, and even with the cognitive dissonance many in that neck of the woods live with daily, it wouldn't be difficult to paint yourself as the better option, and yet that's the one thing AQ has consistently failed to do.
 They've painted it as a choice between having Stalin or Torquemada, essentially, which unsurprisingly doesn't move a lot of people from their current positions. It's their blind spot, they can't do anything about it, so they blame us for it, as the U.S. has obviously exerted our evil influence over those people to prevent them from leaping gladly into the arms of the Wahhabists.
 
2013-04-16 01:34:25 AM

thiefofdreams: BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: we can either be a free people or a police state

or something else.

You'll understand once your upgrade downloads - it's a little big, so stay loose and keep tight.

I was commenting more on those pushing that either security was too tight or too lax


Got it.
 
2013-04-16 01:35:30 AM

Jaykzo: Void_Beavis: fark you asshole

Behold, the words of the man who claims to know how to properly secure a large scale event in a metropolitan area. The words of a man who, within mere hours of a tragedy occuring, has the wisdom and knowledge to correctly assign blame on those whose negligence were responsible for said tragedy. And throughout all of this work he's done, he still has time to type out a "fark you asshole" on the internet.

Fight on, brave soldier.


Just said the same thing you said, using fewer words.

How that for smug, ass?
 
2013-04-16 01:36:43 AM

Void_Beavis: thiefofdreams: Void_Beavis: Samwise Gamgee: Void_Beavis:
words

Look we can either be a free people or a police state. It seems that no matter which we are people biatch. Funny how that works. This event will be used as a catalyst for both extremes. I don't like it much that it will, but it will. You are playing directly into that.

Maybe you can direct as much dislike as you have toward the security detail, that you can direct the next Boston Marathon? Maybe just maybe you can use your energy to start a charity to help those in need due to the bomb. You know, instead of sitting on here saying how it is not a conspiracy while it is a conspiracy.

Except you've not only missed my point, but...

You know what. Screw it. I've sufficiently explained my position. Secure the areas with the highest crowd density. I'm sorry you people think its like a city-wide lockdown when ive said nothing of the sort but hey, who needs reading comprehension anyway.


How do you purpose they sweep 26 miles of course with people on it for over 8 hours through the heart of a busy city?

I am sorry but you are not making and sense and attacking the procedure, no the actual terrorist in this case.

The brave EMTs, LEOs, and volunteers that ran toward those bombs to help people deserve more respect than you sitting on here pounding out stupidity with your cheeto stained fingers. You are mocking their security, well you go do better then.

Start by explaining what I asked. How do you secure most of Boston during the marathon for over 8 hours with 10s of thousands of people there? This was not an auditorium or a stadium it was open streets.

Stadiums have rules about what you can and cannot have on their grounds. They can kick you out for disobeying the rules. Comparing securing 26 miles of open road to a privately owned stadium is completely asinine and that is why you are being mocked.

So show me the plan to secure these marathons using dogs and police, please. Because it seems like you should be in charge of the investigation.
 
2013-04-16 01:39:06 AM
But what did Nostradamus have to say about this?
 
2013-04-16 01:39:12 AM
I blame Richard Jewell.
 
2013-04-16 01:40:19 AM

Pizilla: Boojum2k: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Annnnnnnd now a US Blackhawk helicopter just crashed near the North Korean border.  Not exactly a slow news day.

Aw fark. Really?

No.

But there was a wave of attacks in Iraq.

Can't tell me it isn't connected...



Are you calling me a liar? Search "Blackhawk North Korea" on Google News right now- there's four different sources for you. Does it have anything at all to do with the Marathon bombing? Of course not.
 
2013-04-16 01:40:40 AM

Void_Beavis: shower_in_my_socks: thiefofdreams: Look we can either be a free people or a police state.


No. It's not an either/or scenario. You can have proper security and checkpoints at major events like marathons, NFL games, etc. without turning the entire country into a 24/7 police state.

God damn at least someone here gets my point.

Thank you.


Security can only be a temporary presence, and it is not a solution. Security is still only reacting to violence. it does nothing to address the causes or nurturing of violence. If anything, the artifacts of increased security, like TASERs, only proliferate violence by adding a brand new option to hurt someone. There is a whole subgenre of Youtube videos of police wrongly TASERing people at traffic stops and public events, for example. My point is that increasing the presence of security personnel is not going to reuce the chances of violence, and in practice has been foiund to create more avenues for violence to occur. The security personnel are as much subjects of the social forces that cause violence as everyone else.

Now I am not saying that we should despair and freak out and there is no hope to help curb trash can claymores or whathaveyou. What I am saying is that you should not say that sports events and parades and stuff need more security. You should say: public events need more security until we know who did this and why they did it. then we can reduce the security again while we solve those issues.
 
2013-04-16 01:41:09 AM

Boojum2k: InmanRoshi: Didn't they do precisely that with 9/11?

Nope. Al Qaeda always remaisn very cagey about their attacks, they praise them but do not take specific credit for them. This allows them to get double mileage in the ME by simultaneously seeming like big "heroes" and then spreading conspiracy theories about Israel or the U.S. or other targets actually carrying out the attacks.


This is true.  There are possibly more people in the ME that think 9/11 was done by the US in an inside job than people in the US think so.  This was my impression from talking to those folks, and I know multiple anecdotes do not equal data, so yeah.

But fark whoever did this.  fark them with a sandpaper condom on a broomstick handle.
 
2013-04-16 01:42:33 AM
My guess is the culprit was either an expert or was working for experts.
I am tentatively ruling out the domestic goober-heads. I don't think a local faction - I won't even give it a name - would have the sort of dark zeal needed to pull off something this heinous.

I'm going with garden-variety Al-Quaeda.
 
2013-04-16 01:44:01 AM
I've been lurking these threads for awhile now, and I have to say that the level of partisan crap pushed by people on all sides is farking sickening.

You assholes make me hope for a new plague.

Jesus farking Christ, try to go a few hours without blaming all your troubles on the other side of the spectrum.

I know you're desperate to interpret tragedy in a way that makes sense in your worldview. That could be forgiven as being kind of sad but understandable. But your absolute inability to recognize your desperation and willingness to do so is farking pathetic.
 
2013-04-16 01:44:56 AM
Void_Beavis:
You know, if you're not even going to actually read what I wrote, I'm not going to repeat it again.

 Yeah, please don't. Did read it though, even quoted it above in purty italics and everything. Looks like the hate mail directed toward you is starting to heat up, though, so I doubt you'll be able to reply to every post anyway. Have fun!
 
2013-04-16 01:44:57 AM

AlHarris31: Bennie Crabtree: Thank you Farkers. I had a lot of friends asking where to get information about the bombings and I directed them to your threads on the mainpage. This website is fantastic.

Boston must be a very scary palce to be right now. If the library was in fact bombed as well, then who knows what else is rigged. That would make the perpetrator an unpredictable Gotham City style villain. Yikes!

The library was an incidental fire that hurt no one.  No explosive device was used there. ABC says that it was not a bomb, just a random thing.  A city the size of Boston is going to have fires and stuff everyday.


That is an unfortunate coincidence!
 
2013-04-16 01:45:11 AM

Void_Beavis: shower_in_my_socks: mccallcl: Maybe you're too young to remember, but 9/11 was a shiatshow, exactly because everybody held hands and had a circlejerk instead of demanding answers.


AMEN. We should be mad as hell at the bomber and at whoever was asleep at the wheel security-wise. The minute the people start "coming together" and singing Cumbaya, the government walks all over us. 9/11 got us the Patriot Act and two farking wars, all because we were "united."

Agreed. I want to know exactly the motherfarker who did this, even if it takes years of tireless painstakingly hard detective work. And I want to know exactly the fat cocksucker who was asleep at the wheel where people were stacked 20 deep in a major metropolitan area during a major event at a highly visible area for that event not watching the area for unattended bags. That ducking area should have been crawling with plain clothes cops and bomb sniffing dogs. Who's the idiot in charge of securing this shiatstorm?


Believe it or not, a significant portion of security policy, especially at the federal level, is reactive and based on previous, actually-occurred incidents.  Other than general rules of thumb, most security policies aren't based on conjured up hypotheticals, but rather are attempts to prevent similar events that already occurred at some point.

As an example: car stops/barriers separating traffic from federal buildings/courthouses/consulates/etc, used to be large concrete blocks about the size of a car, sometimes with a tree in the middle.  Then a terrorist parked a car, filled with explosives, beside one of the car stop barriers outside a US consulate.  The explosion acted like a shape charge and projected the car barrier, like a giant bullet, into the consulate building.  Afterwards, all car stop barriers were removed and replaced with the waist-high poles you now see everywhere.
 
2013-04-16 01:45:51 AM

Pizilla: Boojum2k: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Annnnnnnd now a US Blackhawk helicopter just crashed near the North Korean border.  Not exactly a slow news day.

Aw fark. Really?

No.

But there was a wave of attacks in Iraq.

Can't tell me it isn't connected...


Bad stuff happens every day.  When bad stuff happens closer to home we tend to watch more news and see that bad stuff everywhere.

I know that I would only be watching baseball today if this shiat didn't happen.
 
2013-04-16 01:46:20 AM

Cobataiwan: Anyways, the simple way to clear the Saudi student is to run his credit card and see if he hit an strip joints yesterday. If yes, then he's a terrorist.


What kind of idiot uses a credit card at a strip club?
 
2013-04-16 01:48:39 AM

Pizilla: Boojum2k: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Annnnnnnd now a US Blackhawk helicopter just crashed near the North Korean border.  Not exactly a slow news day.

Aw fark. Really?

No.

But there was a wave of attacks in Iraq.

Can't tell me it isn't connected...


It isn't connected.

/see
//I just did.
 
xcv
2013-04-16 01:51:02 AM
The UN is writing up a strongly worded letter that calls for the US to exercise restraint in pursuing justice, and for both sides to avoid perpetuating the cycle of violence.
 
rka
2013-04-16 01:51:20 AM
Sounds like a lot of people really identify with Donald Sutherland's character "X" in JFK.

Why? Why was Kennedy killed? Who benefited? Who has the power to cover it up?
 
2013-04-16 01:53:40 AM

SumoJeb: So next year will be the first annual three-legged Boston memorial marathon?


magnificent
 
2013-04-16 01:58:15 AM
Void_Beavis
However doesn't it seem a bit odd that where a lot of people would be gathered up, say, the finish line of a major marathon in a major metropolitan city, that nobody would have seen ANY dog presence actively searching for such devices? Furthermore, as some have indicated, the device seemingly detonated inside a trash can. If so, why would such an obvious place to hide such a device in such an area not be removed prior to the race, had proper security measures been carried out?


Those are some random before-during-after pictures from a normal supply point along the route of the Berlin Marathon.
I don't want to know what the start/finish area with all the additional crap (media circus, participation medals, blankets, belongings of 40,000 runners,..) looks like.
Good luck securing that.

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2013-04-16 01:58:23 AM

xcv: The UN is writing up a strongly worded letter that calls for the US to exercise restraint in pursuing justice, and for both sides to avoid perpetuating the cycle of violence.


It's a shame stupidity isn't physically painful.
 
2013-04-16 02:00:06 AM

ozarkmatt: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Even Fox is being more fair than that. (I feel dirty)

You remind me of my roommate on 9-11, hard core hippy, went to college in the late 60s / early 70's. He would fit in with the farker lefties here. By mid-day on that Tuesday, even he said we had to watch Fox, they were the only ones that actually gave information and also used commentators from all across the political spectrum. He also used the "felt dirty" line (although I think it was "I feel like an asshole") but CNN became a non-starter for him.


I'm not new to this rodeo.  I actually thought NBC was better on 9-11, but anyway... for normal everyday reporting, Fox is more biased than my cat is about that little jingly toy that is full of catnip.  This time however, as on some other occasions, CNN is full of shiat.
 
2013-04-16 02:03:00 AM
Scanner reporting a suspicious package with wires hanging out of it in the lobby of what sounded like Moe's. Getting a lot off breaking up and garble right now.
 
2013-04-16 02:04:43 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: I'm not new to this rodeo.  I actually thought NBC was better on 9-11


NBC was quite good.  WNJN (the only broadcast station I could pick up at the time) lost its broadcast tower on 11 Sept, so they carried NBC's coverage for days afterward.
 
2013-04-16 02:07:39 AM

rynthetyn: RatMaster999: Uranus Is Huge!: My money is on some creepy, loner, white guy that hates the govenrment. I really hope it's not a Muslim. At least we'd have a good shot at attacking the correct country. Best case scenario? North Korea claim responsibility...and is telling the truth. I won't hold my breath.

I'm kinda  hoping that's the case.  Even if just to point out that not all Muslims are evil, terroristic sonsabiatches.

Plus, if it is just one guy, the chances of him getting caught seem somewhat higher than if he's got a support network behind him.

I hope it's a loner white guy, too many people of Middle Eastern and South Asian ancestry are going to have a terrible time otherwise.


I'm rather fearful that there's going to be a whole lot of angry stupid unleashed on people of non-white ethnicities using this as justification.  I really hope I'm wrong about it happening.
 
2013-04-16 02:11:18 AM

nilThreek: For the record, if I'm critically injured like some of the folks in the gory pics were, and there's some low-life photographer inches away from me with a camera snapping pics instead of trying to help the injured (who are obviously bleeding out and don't have anyone helping them yet), I'm going to haunt the fark out of them if there's a ghost-like afterlife...

If pic#8 guy survives (hopefully he survived ..?), I would have a major schadenfreudegasm if he goes all Liam Neeson on the camera guy...


It's a sporting event. I'd bet my right arm every last photographer on scene was using a telephoto lens. They more than likely weren't terribly physically close to the victims, and they damn sure were not "inches" away.

/worked in professional televised sports for a couple years--have never seen a still photographer at a major event without a telephoto
 
2013-04-16 02:11:46 AM

Titanius Anglesmith: try fect taa daa: Did they have to do this right in front of the Polish flag?

I noticed that as well. I was like "oh nice, Poland", then "oh, look, it's on the ground"

Normally I get really mad at stuff like that, but today, it's suspended.


I'm of the same bent. Respect gets beaten by necessity every time and there was a clear need to disregard politeness at the point in time.
 
2013-04-16 02:14:33 AM
Think they just cleared it as nothing. Damn that accent and fast talking. Can't hear to good as it is anyway :P
 
2013-04-16 02:17:58 AM

super_grass: jaytkay: super_grass: The

Gawd you are a boor. If it weren't for the bombing in Boston, your threadjack would be the worst thing that happened on Earth today.

Keep talking like that and you'll lose the privilege of having your posts being shown to me.

You're on probationary ignore. Keep it up and see how it goes.


Welcome to ignore. And congratulations on being the only one there. Because, yes, you ARE a boor. Not to mention a complete and utter jackass.
 
2013-04-16 02:21:20 AM

Cobataiwan: I also notice that everyone seems to "forget" the left wing bombers our country has seen. Those OWS guys that wanted to take down a bridge. The guy who flew into an IRS building who you all assumed was a right winger but his writings all quoted the Communist Manifesto. The shooters at holocaust museum, the environmental nuts, discovery channel shooter etc.


....Did this guy  seriouslyjust attempt to label the Holocaust museum shooter as left-leaning?
 
2013-04-16 02:21:40 AM

Corn_Fed: While this is not a time for partisan politics, it is instructive to consider the level of over-reaction that would be going on right now if Bush were still president.


Except you're being completely partisan, disingenuous, and dead wrong.  If I recall correctly, when 9/11 happened, Bush stood there with a lost look on his face - over-reaction does not come to mind when I think of him there with "My Pet Goat" (or whatever it was).  When he did address the nation that evening, one of the few things that both sides of the fence can appreciate as something he did right, he immediately told folks to not be hateful towards people of Middle Eastern descent.

I'm in no way defending what eventually occurred under Bush, but you're just talking out of your arse with a partisan agenda, and that gives Dems a bad name.  Don't give Dems a bad name.

No, there would not have been an "over-reaction... going on right now" regardless of which party was in power.  The U.S. government, right or wrong, has never behaved like that.

Now, maybe instead of indulging in petty politics, you can donate $1 or $2 to help the victims.  May not seem like much, but if everyone gets together and pitches in, it's amazing how much it can help.

Please be helpful, and not divisive.  Thanks.
 
2013-04-16 02:22:43 AM

RatMaster999: rynthetyn: RatMaster999: Uranus Is Huge!: My money is on some creepy, loner, white guy that hates the govenrment. I really hope it's not a Muslim. At least we'd have a good shot at attacking the correct country. Best case scenario? North Korea claim responsibility...and is telling the truth. I won't hold my breath.

I'm kinda  hoping that's the case.  Even if just to point out that not all Muslims are evil, terroristic sonsabiatches.

Plus, if it is just one guy, the chances of him getting caught seem somewhat higher than if he's got a support network behind him.

I hope it's a loner white guy, too many people of Middle Eastern and South Asian ancestry are going to have a terrible time otherwise.

I'm rather fearful that there's going to be a whole lot of angry stupid unleashed on people of non-white ethnicities using this as justification.  I really hope I'm wrong about it happening.


I really hope that we're wrong on that. I remember back after 9/11 my one aunt and uncle were really worried about my aunt's Jordanian cousins because they were studying at Embry Riddle (where some of the hijackers were enrollment). I think they pretended to be Mexican for quite a while.

My sister is dating an Indian guy, and given how people can't tell the difference between different brown people I hope he doesn't have trouble. For that matter, my sister-in-law is Spanish and Brazilian with some sort of North African ancestry mixed in there by way of her Spanish side, and looks to be of a sort of indeterminate ethnicity that doesn't look 100% white, and given witch hunts she could be looked on with suspicion. And that's not even going into the friends I have who are actually Muslim.
 
2013-04-16 02:27:46 AM
In other news, in Iraq 50 people were killed and 300 injured in bombings, three days after 8 people were killed and 30 injured in bombings, which was six days after 20 people were killed and 54 injured in bombings, which was one day after 7 people were killed and 34 injured in bombings, which was....

I'm not saying anyone deserves to be killed, in Iraq or Boston.  It is hard not to wonder, though, if there is an element of karma at play here, regardless of who is responsible.

Regardless, it is sad that we live in a world where this is considered an expected, if not even legitimate, expression of political opinion.
 
2013-04-16 02:35:09 AM

ratman999: In other news, in Iraq 50 people were killed and 300 injured in bombings, three days after 8 people were killed and 30 injured in bombings, which was six days after 20 people were killed and 54 injured in bombings, which was one day after 7 people were killed and 34 injured in bombings, which was....

I'm not saying anyone deserves to be killed, in Iraq or Boston.  It is hard not to wonder, though, if there is an element of karma at play here, regardless of who is responsible.

Regardless, it is sad that we live in a world where this is considered an expected, if not even legitimate, expression of political opinion.


Your 'wondering' implies that this is karmic retaliation for the Iraq War.

Seeing how the bombs didn't go off in GWB's home, nor anywhere near Darth Cheney's meditation chamber, I'm going to have to veto your suggestion of 'karma' and suggest you go blame the former Bush Administration for Iraq and not the citizens of Boston.
 
2013-04-16 02:36:16 AM

Somacandra: And to this day colonial American populations likewise have no specific representation. Guam, Puerto Rico, American Samoa and the U.S. Virgin Islands have no specific voting representation. Hell, D.C. doesn't have it either. But they are bound by all laws that Congress passes.


DC was never meant to be a place to live but a place to do business (hence its size and location). The various territories have the right to petition to become a state and there's no reason to think that they wouldn't be welcomed into the fold with open arms.

They do have representation, they just can't vote for the President nor on items before the Congress, but they can have their elected delegates speak on the floor and sway a vote and they do get to vote on items in committees that they are a member of.

Plus they don't pay federal taxes so there is no"Taxation without representation" going on.
 
2013-04-16 02:36:38 AM
bad enuf the false accusations that will be made
but wait till the folks who can profit from it, get involved (if not already)


("its a shame that stupidity isnt painful" - i  am so stealing that)
 
2013-04-16 02:37:05 AM

vygramul: Silly Jesus: netweavr: CNN is reporting ball bearings were used as shrapnel.

Limit ball bearing purchases to 7.

Who the hell needs 30 ball bearings?


Wanted for questioning:

i1164.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-16 02:40:47 AM

Valacirca: ....Did this guy seriouslyjust attempt to label the Holocaust museum shooter as left-leaning?


He was a truther. That demographic has plenty of people from both sides of the spectrum and none of them are rational. For example the Fark famous picture of 2 concrete pavers and rabbit wire to replicate the towers was originally posted on Democratic Underground.
 
2013-04-16 02:43:04 AM

contrapunctus: Let this be the turning point in American culture. Pretty please.

A turning point where instead of Kardashians being showered with money and fame, we bestow it upon people like this guy.


When the bombs went off, Arredondo was near the Boylston Street finish line of the marathon, which he was watching in order to support a runner who dedicated his race to Arredondo's son, a U.S. Marine who was killed in the Iraq War,
Arredondo immediately sprinted into action after the bombs detonated, and he can be seen in videos of the aftermath rushing to one of the two bombing sites, then pulling debris and fencing away from the bloody victims, clearing the way for emergency personnel to tend to their wounds.
 
2013-04-16 02:47:15 AM

bindlestiff2600: bad enuf the false accusations that will be made
but wait till the folks who can profit from it, get involved (if not already)


("its a shame that stupidity isnt painful" - i  am so stealing that)


Wait? You don't listen to AM radio much, do you
 
2013-04-16 02:47:37 AM

Choo-Choo Bear: Corn_Fed: While this is not a time for partisan politics, it is instructive to consider the level of over-reaction that would be going on right now if Bush were still president.

Except you're being completely partisan, disingenuous, and dead wrong.  If I recall correctly, when 9/11 happened, Bush stood there with a lost look on his face - over-reaction does not come to mind when I think of him there with "My Pet Goat" (or whatever it was).  When he did address the nation that evening, one of the few things that both sides of the fence can appreciate as something he did right, he immediately told folks to not be hateful towards people of Middle Eastern descent.

I'm in no way defending what eventually occurred under Bush, but you're just talking out of your arse with a partisan agenda, and that gives Dems a bad name.  Don't give Dems a bad name.

No, there would not have been an "over-reaction... going on right now" regardless of which party was in power.  The U.S. government, right or wrong, has never behaved like that.

Now, maybe instead of indulging in petty politics, you can donate $1 or $2 to help the victims.  May not seem like much, but if everyone gets together and pitches in, it's amazing how much it can help.

Please be helpful, and not divisive.  Thanks.


This.

The US government is slow to move because it's huge. Once it starts to move it's hard to stop... because it's huge, it has its own type of inertia. It's when it moves fast that you really have to worry, because it will have a huge amount of inertia behind it. See the Patriot Act for an example of this. I see the ACA as a similar type of situation.
 
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