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2013-04-16 12:36:00 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: Bonanza Jellybean: [i.imgur.com image 500x467]

*sigh*


[cbsjackontheweb.files.wordpress.com image 320x240]

maps


You folks are aware that there is a city in England called Boston.
 
2013-04-16 12:36:55 AM  

InmanRoshi: Samwise Gamgee: Not saying it was a claymore, but even if it was, that doesn't mean it was military in origin. Claymores have been around for over 100 years and they're not hard to make. <b> Could be someone's homebrewed equivalent.</b>

I'm not getting into the culprit's motivation, but I cant help but think that if someone had some real ballistics and explosives training, though the US military or AQ or otherwise, they could have created something that could do more damage than 3 fatalities after being detonated in a gigantic crowd. This looks like some sort of Eric Murdock cooked-it-up-in-my-own-backyard-using-teh-intrawebbings bullshiat.


Times Square car bomb did not detonate either. Their best guys are not here but in Syria. These are C Team volunteers.
 
2013-04-16 12:38:37 AM  

AlHarris31: Void_Beavis: shower_in_my_socks: mccallcl: Maybe you're too young to remember, but 9/11 was a shiatshow, exactly because everybody held hands and had a circlejerk instead of demanding answers.


AMEN. We should be mad as hell at the bomber and at whoever was asleep at the wheel security-wise. The minute the people start "coming together" and singing Cumbaya, the government walks all over us. 9/11 got us the Patriot Act and two farking wars, all because we were "united."

Agreed. I want to know exactly the motherfarker who did this, even if it takes years of tireless painstakingly hard detective work. And I want to know exactly the fat cocksucker who was asleep at the wheel where people were stacked 20 deep in a major metropolitan area during a major event at a highly visible area for that event not watching the area for unattended bags. That ducking area should have been crawling with plain clothes cops and bomb sniffing dogs. Who's the idiot in charge of securing this shiatstorm?

I had heard that one of the explosions looked like it went off in a trash can.  If so, thats a lot harder to detect than a bag sitting there for a few hours.  Some dude can look like hes throwing away some trash and walk away.  Even so, this was a security failure.  Look for many more cops and dogs at all sporting events and gatherings.  I bet there will be dogs walking through the lots at all major sporting games from now on.


Then why wasn't the trash can removed prior to the race? Again, this sort of thing isn't new.

So much of this leads me to believe proper security measures weren't carried out for this event. From several eyewitness accounts saying there was no dog presence to the lax security around removing trash cans... If course I'll wait until all the facts come out, however, based on what we're hearing so far the evidence kinda points to some pretty shiatty security measures being taken for such a major soft target event.
 
2013-04-16 12:38:57 AM  

ausfahrk: Marine1: Depends. This guy could have kept those explosives on himself when he detonated them, but was obviously too interested in self-preservation. For him, death is something to be feared.

Maybe they were strapped to his calves?


He would be in pieces either way.
 
2013-04-16 12:39:51 AM  

jmsvrsn: What_Would_Jimi_Do: Bonanza Jellybean: [i.imgur.com image 500x467]

*sigh*


[cbsjackontheweb.files.wordpress.com image 320x240]

maps

You folks are aware that there is a city in England called Boston.


does it have a marathon that is known worldwide?
 
2013-04-16 12:40:11 AM  

Red Shirt Blues: Bonanza Jellybean: [i.imgur.com image 500x467]

*sigh*

That.....can't be real. No way. Impossible.


You, like me, live in the U.S.

19 percent of our fellow citizens think the sun revolves around the earth.

However, only 4 percent think lizard people secretly run everything, so we got that going for us.

(really...look it up)
 
rka
2013-04-16 12:40:20 AM  

Cobataiwan: These are C Team volunteers.


They just wounded about 150 people. I'd say they were pretty effective. Damn glad their "A-Team" isn't here.
 
2013-04-16 12:41:13 AM  
Still three dead, still hundred-ish injured, right? I'm not missing some detail that makes this act somehow immensely more monstrous than it was when first it broke?
 
2013-04-16 12:41:19 AM  

Cobataiwan: InmanRoshi: Samwise Gamgee: Not saying it was a claymore, but even if it was, that doesn't mean it was military in origin. Claymores have been around for over 100 years and they're not hard to make. <b> Could be someone's homebrewed equivalent.</b>

I'm not getting into the culprit's motivation, but I cant help but think that if someone had some real ballistics and explosives training, though the US military or AQ or otherwise, they could have created something that could do more damage than 3 fatalities after being detonated in a gigantic crowd. This looks like some sort of Eric Murdock cooked-it-up-in-my-own-backyard-using-teh-intrawebbings bullshiat.

Times Square car bomb did not detonate either. Their best guys are not here but in Syria. These are C Team volunteers.


So we're just the farm league Satan? That's a little disappointing.
 
2013-04-16 12:41:53 AM  

InmanRoshi: The entire purpose of an act of political terrorism is to make a statement.   Not making the statement to tie it to your politics kinda defeats the purpose.


I see your logic and raise you the Atlanta Olympic bombing.  Eric Lee Rudolph didn't issue any statement claiming credit, and it was only tied to him one or two years later.  His choice of target didn't seem to send a clear political message about anything, and it was anyone's guess why some dude bombed the Olympics.

If you have a subculture like the 90s militia subculture or white nationalists, a terrorist act may simply be an attack on the USA, and only intended to have symbolic meaning to other members of the subculture, not for the general public.  The OK city bombing was intended to be a signal for other militia types to rise up and revolt against the USA, for example.
 
2013-04-16 12:42:13 AM  
Giltric: Guy was acting suspicious after the bombing and a group of people tackled him....supposedly this is the "saudi national" they were talking about earlier and he is cooperating with authorities

cameroncrazy1984: I've seen muslims shout allah ackbar when enemies have died and when compatriots have died. There are many reasons to say it, I wonder if this was the suspicious activity they are talking about, dude was sending an SOS to God and caught a beatdown.

He was running away from the explosion. Totally suspicious.

FormlessOne: "Running while Saudi" - clearly, a reason for at least one clueless bigot to tackle him. Guy's cooperating with the cops, has denied any involvement, and cops haven't found a shred of evidence to link him to anything. The only "suspicious activity" was having some clueless bigot tackle him while claiming "suspicious activity" as justification.

JungleBoogie: Part of PBS's Operation Homecoming: a story of an IED blast, an Iraqi and American soldier screaming for him to stop running.

(By the way, "Taking Chance" is part of this series.)

cameroncrazy1984: Well see, and here's where you might be missing the obvious here but...this isn't Iraq and he wasn't an Iraqi?



The point I was trying to make was that running from danger is a natural reaction, even if one is brown. And the link was meant to underscore that point in a poignant, memorable fashion.

You have my sincerest apologies for befuddling you.
 
2013-04-16 12:43:01 AM  
The internet has solved this case long before the MSM or the FBI ever will, those know-nothing dummies

i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-16 12:43:17 AM  

Cobataiwan: InmanRoshi: Samwise Gamgee: Not saying it was a claymore, but even if it was, that doesn't mean it was military in origin. Claymores have been around for over 100 years and they're not hard to make. <b> Could be someone's homebrewed equivalent.</b>

I'm not getting into the culprit's motivation, but I cant help but think that if someone had some real ballistics and explosives training, though the US military or AQ or otherwise, they could have created something that could do more damage than 3 fatalities after being detonated in a gigantic crowd. This looks like some sort of Eric Murdock cooked-it-up-in-my-own-backyard-using-teh-intrawebbings bullshiat.

Times Square car bomb did not detonate either. Their best guys are not here but in Syria. These are C Team volunteers.


All it takes is a lucky strike by one of these farkwits to really screw up your day. Or to screw up the day for 150 people. C team or not.
 
2013-04-16 12:43:25 AM  

jmsvrsn: You folks are aware that there is a city in England called Boston.


i had to look it up. it isn't a city. it's a borough
 
2013-04-16 12:44:24 AM  
Funny nobody ever says maybe it was a crazy left winger. See, the left wing never ever bombs people. LOL.
 
2013-04-16 12:44:30 AM  

Void_Beavis: No. There were no dog patrols present at the sites where the bombs went off during the race, nor working up and down the race route during the race checking the crowds out. This was corroborated by several of the eyewitness accounts that I saw tonight interviewed by the reporters. In New York during any major event like this since 9/11 and during major traffic holidays at places like Grand Cental and Penn, there are almost certainly to be seen dog bomb patrols actively seeking out any packages left unattended for just such a thing. Yet to a person (at least from what I saw) at this marathon reported none such patrolling. If this is true, whoever responsible for securing this event needs to be questioned about this and be held accountable. It's rediculous (if true). I mean, yes it's not possible to have a dog patrol in the right place at the right time always but just like any security expert will tell you, securing soft targets like this is all about reducing risks. Having such patrols does that and to not do it is irresponsible.


Come on man. We've all been to sporting events and concerts and festivals and there's just no way that you can protect everybody all the time. If there were 1 cop/1 dog every 100 feet today, it would have taken 1000+ of each to cover 26.2 miles. And that's just one side of the street. There's no way you could do it even if you tried. Especially when you have mulitple events going on all around the country at any given time. I understand your point but it really doesn't make sense in these type situations.

Everybody is looking for someone to blame but blaming the cops/feds in this type of thing is senseless. There were no advance warnings for people to ignore. There was no clues that people overlooked. It was just one of those "shiat happens" type of things imo. This was something that can happen anywhere at anytime and there's just no way to effectively stop them all. In fact, I think the cops/feds have done a damn good job keeping us as safe as they have considering there's a shiatload of people that want to do Americans harm out there. Especially since 9/11.
 
2013-04-16 12:45:47 AM  

Cobataiwan: InmanRoshi: Samwise Gamgee: Not saying it was a claymore, but even if it was, that doesn't mean it was military in origin. Claymores have been around for over 100 years and they're not hard to make. <b> Could be someone's homebrewed equivalent.</b>

I'm not getting into the culprit's motivation, but I cant help but think that if someone had some real ballistics and explosives training, though the US military or AQ or otherwise, they could have created something that could do more damage than 3 fatalities after being detonated in a gigantic crowd. This looks like some sort of Eric Murdock cooked-it-up-in-my-own-backyard-using-teh-intrawebbings bullshiat.

Times Square car bomb did not detonate either. Their best guys are not here but in Syria. These are C Team volunteers.


The Times Square Bombing was attempted by someone who had received formal training in Pakistan, and it was planned and financed by people in Pakistan.  It was an absolutely massive, complicated van bomb that would have wiped out city blocks that would have been a 9/11 caliber event if executed.  That's more Al Qaueda style to me    This was likely a rooty poot pipe bomb that did an incredible amount of damage mostly because of the location and timing.  Everyone acts like the fact that ball bearings are involved shows this guy has some sort of formal training.  All it shows to me is he's at least watched Swordfish or Jackass.   I know that Claymores use ball bearings and I'm not the least bit curious about making detonating devices.   Wherever deep dark corners of the internet you can go to find out how to make a backyard pipe-bomb there's probably some pretty lively discussions going on about what spray material to pack it with.
 
2013-04-16 12:46:29 AM  

Jaykzo: The internet has solved this case long before the MSM or the FBI ever will, those know-nothing dummies

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You shouldn't blacked out the chicks name. That type of crazy needs to be known to everybody and put out on world wide display.
 
2013-04-16 12:47:26 AM  

ongbok: Jaykzo: The internet has solved this case long before the MSM or the FBI ever will, those know-nothing dummies

[i.imgur.com image 608x612]

You shouldn't blacked out the chicks name. That type of crazy needs to be known to everybody and put out on world wide display.


What this brother said.
 
2013-04-16 12:48:23 AM  

ongbok: Jaykzo: The internet has solved this case long before the MSM or the FBI ever will, those know-nothing dummies

[i.imgur.com image 608x612]

You shouldn't blacked out the chicks name. That type of crazy needs to be known to everybody and put out on world wide display.


And she looks cute.
 
2013-04-16 12:48:28 AM  

TalenLee: Still three dead, still hundred-ish injured, right? I'm not missing some detail that makes this act somehow immensely more monstrous than it was when first it broke?


Seriously?
 
2013-04-16 12:48:35 AM  

Uranus Is Huge!: SuperNinjaToad: Uranus Is Huge!: My money is on some creepy, loner, white guy that hates the govenrment. I really hope it's not a Muslim. At least we'd have a good shot at attacking the correct country. Best case scenario? North Korea claim responsibility...and is telling the truth. I won't hold my breath.

so based on your 'wish' I am guessing you're a Muslim who hates Koreans? huh?
.......otherwise I don't quote get what exactly you're saying or trying to convey.

1) My guess, based on nothing but other bombings in US history, is that the perpetrator will be a white guy.

2) If it turns out to be a product of   muslims

(your race/religion of choice) terrorism, I will be extra sad, given this country's past reactions when muslims  (your race/religion of choice)  are involved.

3) I half-jokingly stated that if this event leads to war, it might as well be with a country begging for a smack down - North Korea.

Now go bunch up your panties around around another random post out of the two thousand in the thread.


FTFY..
 
2013-04-16 12:48:45 AM  
Thank you Farkers. I had a lot of friends asking where to get information about the bombings and I directed them to your threads on the mainpage. This website is fantastic.

Boston must be a very scary palce to be right now. If the library was in fact bombed as well, then who knows what else is rigged. That would make the perpetrator an unpredictable Gotham City style villain. Yikes!
 
2013-04-16 12:49:25 AM  

CygnusDarius: ongbok: Jaykzo: The internet has solved this case long before the MSM or the FBI ever will, those know-nothing dummies

[i.imgur.com image 608x612]

You shouldn't blacked out the chicks name. That type of crazy needs to be known to everybody and put out on world wide display.

And she looks cute.


She's gotta be a demon in the sack. Crazy chicks usually are.
 
2013-04-16 12:49:33 AM  

miss diminutive: Today's events have both saddened and angered me, sentiments I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling. Then coming into these threads and seeing countless Farkers stumble over one another to place the blame on whichever group suits their particular agenda and personal viewpoint angered me further. I was honestly disgusted with humanity. Then, I stopped and realized that this is probably the symptom of living in an age where we have instantaneous access to horrible events yet, stuck behind our keyboards, there's simply nothing we can do about them. We can't help those afflicted, we can't lend a helping hand, we can't search for those responsible. In that void maybe we search for something, anything, to do. And maybe assigning blame seems the path of least resistance.

Looking at the scenes of carnage from the race my first thoughts were "what sort of monster would do this?" and if I let myself go down that path it's easy to start to believe that the world is going to hell and that we've completely lost our humanity. But when you look past the images of maimed people you see countless others who rushed to the scene, disregarding their own safety, to help in any way possible. For every one monster out there, there are least 1000 people willing to stop and help, to lend a hand or a shoulder. For every political douchebag interested in scoring points in some twisted blame game, there are a thousand people who want nothing more than peace for those injured and justice brought to those responsible.

So, I'm going to make a donation to the red cross (I'm too light to donate blood), I'm going to help my elderly neighbour trim her hedges tomorrow evening and I'm going to hug my friends and offer them my time should they need it. I can't help the people of Boston, but I can make my tiny corner of the world a better place, and collectively that beats any monster with a bomb full of shrapnel every time. At least, in my opinion it does.

/sorry for rant
//yeah, lighten up francis


I sat worried for hours waiting for my last friend to "sign in" and let us know she was safe. thank you for not turning your post into conspiracy blaming horsecrap
 
2013-04-16 12:49:49 AM  

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: It's entirely possible we'll never know who did this.


Nah, they'll find the person who did it.  The FBI might not be geniuses, but they're incredibly persistent and very well funded.
 
2013-04-16 12:49:58 AM  

PunGent: Red Shirt Blues: Bonanza Jellybean: [i.imgur.com image 500x467]

*sigh*

That.....can't be real. No way. Impossible.

You, like me, live in the U.S.

19 percent of our fellow citizens think the sun revolves around the earth.

However, only 4 percent think lizard people secretly run everything, so we got that going for us.

(really...look it up)


dammitsomuch
 
2013-04-16 12:49:58 AM  

Xcott: InmanRoshi: The entire purpose of an act of political terrorism is to make a statement.   Not making the statement to tie it to your politics kinda defeats the purpose.

I see your logic and raise you the Atlanta Olympic bombing.  Eric Lee Rudolph didn't issue any statement claiming credit, and it was only tied to him one or two years later.  His choice of target didn't seem to send a clear political message about anything, and it was anyone's guess why some dude bombed the Olympics.

If you have a subculture like the 90s militia subculture or white nationalists, a terrorist act may simply be an attack on the USA, and only intended to have symbolic meaning to other members of the subculture, not for the general public.  The OK city bombing was intended to be a signal for other militia types to rise up and revolt against the USA, for example.



It's also about getting attention. On one hand, I would expect an anti-government American-born terrorist to attack a government building, a la McVeigh in OKC. On the other hand, if all you want is attention, then you attack a major event that will get you press. I do not envy the people investigating this because it could have been farking anybody. I will be equally un-surprised if it's a Saudi or a redneck or a mentally-unstable 20-something still living with his mom.
 
2013-04-16 12:50:05 AM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: impaler: Void_Beavis: Agreed. I want to know exactly the motherfarker who did this, even if it takes years of tireless painstakingly hard detective work. And I want to know exactly the fat cocksucker who was asleep at the wheel where people were stacked 20 deep in a major metropolitan area during a major event at a highly visible area for that event not watching the area for unattended bags.

Why doesn't everyone have 20/20!!!

Agreed. The bombs were in trash cans, I think.


Yup, in the trash.  I was watching coverage on espn earlier today and they interviewed a runner.  He said he happened to be looking right at it and saw the trash can explode.

So basically I had to add, "Make sure to avoid trash cans at big public events" to my paranoid crap to-do list.
 
2013-04-16 12:50:11 AM  

ongbok: Jaykzo: The internet has solved this case long before the MSM or the FBI ever will, those know-nothing dummies

[i.imgur.com image 608x612]

You shouldn't blacked out the chicks name. That type of crazy needs to be known to everybody and put out on world wide display.


I would if I could, but this was sent to me via a friend, who I'm sure received it from a friend, etc etc.
 
2013-04-16 12:50:57 AM  

Void_Beavis: TalenLee: Still three dead, still hundred-ish injured, right? I'm not missing some detail that makes this act somehow immensely more monstrous than it was when first it broke?

Seriously?


Agreed. That's monstrous enough for most. I wish the best for all those involved... except the asshole who did it that is. Hopefully he got plowed by a semi right after making his escape.
 
2013-04-16 12:51:06 AM  

Samwise Gamgee: PunGent: Infernalist: Don't Claymore mines use ball-bearings?

And haven't they said that many of the injured were dealing with leg injuries?

Could the bombs have been military-grade claymore mines?

Unlikely; would've been less smoke, and more fatal casualties.

Not saying it was a claymore, but even if it was, that doesn't mean it was military in origin. Claymores have been around for over 100 years and they're not hard to make. Could be someone's homebrewed equivalent.


Yep.
 
2013-04-16 12:51:08 AM  

Jaykzo: The internet has solved this case long before the MSM or the FBI ever will, those know-nothing dummies

[i.imgur.com image 608x612]


There is crazy.. Then there is "not sure if trolling but more than likely you're batshiat insane crazy"
 
2013-04-16 12:51:30 AM  

Infernalist: Don't Claymore mines use ball-bearings?

And haven't they said that many of the injured were dealing with leg injuries?

Could the bombs have been military-grade claymore mines?


No. Claymores use a high explosive to push everything out fast enough that they can over penetrate and go through several people. We'd see much higher death numbers at that point, given the proximity. Also I think they produce less flash and smoke.
 
2013-04-16 12:52:00 AM  

Cobataiwan: Funny nobody ever says maybe it was a crazy left winger. See, the left wing never ever bombs people. LOL.


I'd like to remind you of the terrorists in my back yard (literally) while I was growing up, the RAF.

/go fark yourself
//violence knows no political affiliation
///maybe not, but our response shouldn't
 
2013-04-16 12:52:01 AM  

Last Man on Earth: Personally, the information we've got so far leads me to the opinion that this was probably a domestic nutter.  The lack of organization (judging by the severe, but fairly small-scale results) and the rudimentary, kludged tech level of the bombs speak to one person acting alone.  That single actor, combined with the time and place chosen, say domestic rather than international, as the latter tend to have at least some manner of support structure.

That said, I do think this really was a lone individual.  I stress that in order to say that I believe this individual isn't representative of any group or political faction.  I'm as left-wing as they come, and I think this guy is most likely one of the True PatriotTM types, but that doesn't mean that his actions represent the people who share his ideology in any way, shape, or form.  We could probably have a discussion about cultures of fear, oppression, and anger in groups like that, and the effect mentalities like that have on people, but I do not, and I believe we should not, blame a group or faction for the actions of one lone nut.  To do so would be as fallacious as blaming all Christians, or even all evangelical Southern Baptists, for the actions of WBC.  Sharing an ideology is NOT the same as condoning actions, and we should all take care not to make that mistake, no matter how this plays out.

/climbs off soapbox
//drops mike
///gets ass beat by tech guy for dropping mike


Depends on the group. If one of the groups primary functions is fomenting violence in the pursuit of its goals I would beg to differ.
 
2013-04-16 12:52:05 AM  

Jaykzo: The internet has solved this case long before the MSM or the FBI ever will, those know-nothing dummies

[i.imgur.com image 608x612]


I love how conspiracy theories allow the simple and gullible to feel like space geniuses (genii?)
 
2013-04-16 12:52:11 AM  

Jaykzo: The internet has solved this case long before the MSM or the FBI ever will, those know-nothing dummies

[i.imgur.com image 608x612]


2 and 6 are both even numbers.  EVEN.  This is somebody getting even.  Another term for getting even is payback.  Who starred in payback?  Mel Gibson.  Half of 26 is 13.  What was Mel Gibson in 13 years ago?  The Patriot.  Patriot Day.

This is payback for Mel Gibson's wife not blowing him in the hot tub.  Study it out.
 
2013-04-16 12:52:44 AM  

Void_Beavis: TalenLee: Still three dead, still hundred-ish injured, right? I'm not missing some detail that makes this act somehow immensely more monstrous than it was when first it broke?

Seriously?


Seriously. I'm coming up for air between classes. If something has changed to the news, then I am interested in knowing.
 
2013-04-16 12:52:47 AM  
Jesus. Just last month.

Domestic terrorism: Study shows sharp rise in extremist 'patriot' groups
Researchers compare this rise in activity to that just before the Oklahoma City bombing

March 06, 2013

http://www.firerescue1.com/homeland-security/articles/1414784-Domest ic -terrorism-Study-shows-sharp-rise-in-extremist-patriot-groups/
 
2013-04-16 12:53:37 AM  
The sadness I feel is less the atrocity itself and more with the Society that consciously breeds the soul-less; those chained by injustice, inequality, depraved indifference and rabid nihilism, for whom the only gratification and connection to the world without is the pain and suffering of others.  Who are we to condemn violence when we blindly spawn and support those who espouse the tenets of "might and money make right"?  The people who will change the world are not those who make grand speeches, laws or decrees on how to live your life; more the individual that looks inside and loves themselves, expressing this same love to their family, and every single person they meet.  The ones who care less for themselves, more for their fellows, and hope that through their actions, others will do the same.  Where position in society is less important than commitment to the general well-being of everyone.  Where money and power mean nothing compared to bread and education; where the thoughtful consideration of every action yields a benefit for all.  Then, and only then, will we live in a society where events like Boston are not simply suppressed, but the mere idea of such a thing is never even conceived.
 
2013-04-16 12:53:45 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: Thank you Farkers. I had a lot of friends asking where to get information about the bombings and I directed them to your threads on the mainpage. This website is fantastic.

Boston must be a very scary palce to be right now. If the library was in fact bombed as well, then who knows what else is rigged. That would make the perpetrator an unpredictable Gotham City style villain. Yikes!


Tonight you're all gonna be part of a social experiment. Through the magic of diesel fuel and ammonium nitrate, I'm ready right now to blow you all sky high. Anyone attempts to get off the hospital or [Insert name of] the police station, you all die. Each of you has a remote... to blow up the other building. At midnight, I blow you all up. If, however, one of you presses the button, I'll let that boat live. So, who's it going to be: Boston's finest, or the sweet and innocent civilians? You choose... oh, and you might want to decide quickly, because the people on the other boat might not be so noble.
 
2013-04-16 12:54:27 AM  

Xcott: InmanRoshi: The entire purpose of an act of political terrorism is to make a statement.   Not making the statement to tie it to your politics kinda defeats the purpose.

I see your logic and raise you the Atlanta Olympic bombing.  Eric Lee Rudolph didn't issue any statement claiming credit, and it was only tied to him one or two years later.  His choice of target didn't seem to send a clear political message about anything, and it was anyone's guess why some dude bombed the Olympics.

If you have a subculture like the 90s militia subculture or white nationalists, a terrorist act may simply be an attack on the USA, and only intended to have symbolic meaning to other members of the subculture, not for the general public.  The OK city bombing was intended to be a signal for other militia types to rise up and revolt against the USA, for example.


There was the kid setting pipe bombs off in mail boxes. He wanted to create a smiley face pattern on the maps in the papers.

I also notice that everyone seems to "forget" the left wing bombers our country has seen. Those OWS guys that wanted to take down a bridge. The guy who flew into an IRS building who you all assumed was a right winger but his writings all quoted the Communist Manifesto. The shooters at holocaust museum, the environmental nuts, discovery channel shooter etc.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/of_massacres_med ia _myths_iwxYulFJ9jKcrBTk50kpOL
 
2013-04-16 12:54:29 AM  

draa: Void_Beavis: No. There were no dog patrols present at the sites where the bombs went off during the race, nor working up and down the race route during the race checking the crowds out. This was corroborated by several of the eyewitness accounts that I saw tonight interviewed by the reporters. In New York during any major event like this since 9/11 and during major traffic holidays at places like Grand Cental and Penn, there are almost certainly to be seen dog bomb patrols actively seeking out any packages left unattended for just such a thing. Yet to a person (at least from what I saw) at this marathon reported none such patrolling. If this is true, whoever responsible for securing this event needs to be questioned about this and be held accountable. It's rediculous (if true). I mean, yes it's not possible to have a dog patrol in the right place at the right time always but just like any security expert will tell you, securing soft targets like this is all about reducing risks. Having such patrols does that and to not do it is irresponsible.

Come on man. We've all been to sporting events and concerts and festivals and there's just no way that you can protect everybody all the time. If there were 1 cop/1 dog every 100 feet today, it would have taken 1000+ of each to cover 26.2 miles. And that's just one side of the street. There's no way you could do it even if you tried. Especially when you have mulitple events going on all around the country at any given time. I understand your point but it really doesn't make sense in these type situations.

Everybody is looking for someone to blame but blaming the cops/feds in this type of thing is senseless. There were no advance warnings for people to ignore. There was no clues that people overlooked. It was just one of those "shiat happens" type of things imo. This was something that can happen anywhere at anytime and there's just no way to effectively stop them all. In fact, I think the cops/feds have done a damn good job keeping us as safe as they have considering there's a shiatload of people that want to do Americans harm out there. Especially since 9/11.


Normally I would agree. However, again, several witnesses that I saw interviewed tonight all said they did not see one dog patrol. Not one. The entire time.

Now I'm not saying they weren't there. However doesn't it seem a bit odd that where a lot of people would be gathered up, say, the finish line of a major marathon in a major metropolitan city, that nobody would have seen ANY dog presence actively searching for such devices? Furthermore, as some have indicated, the device seemingly detonated inside a trash can. If so, why would such an obvious place to hide such a device in such an area not be removed prior to the race, had proper security measures been carried out?

I'm not insinuating a conspiracy theory here. All I'm saying is that if this is true, it seems to indicate some pretty shiatty security precautions for such an event like this.
 
2013-04-16 12:54:50 AM  

draa: Void_Beavis: No. There were no dog patrols present at the sites where the bombs went off during the race, nor working up and down the race route during the race checking the crowds out. This was corroborated by several of the eyewitness accounts that I saw tonight interviewed by the reporters. In New York during any major event like this since 9/11 and during major traffic holidays at places like Grand Cental and Penn, there are almost certainly to be seen dog bomb patrols actively seeking out any packages left unattended for just such a thing. Yet to a person (at least from what I saw) at this marathon reported none such patrolling. If this is true, whoever responsible for securing this event needs to be questioned about this and be held accountable. It's rediculous (if true). I mean, yes it's not possible to have a dog patrol in the right place at the right time always but just like any security expert will tell you, securing soft targets like this is all about reducing risks. Having such patrols does that and to not do it is irresponsible.

Come on man. We've all been to sporting events and concerts and festivals and there's just no way that you can protect everybody all the time. If there were 1 cop/1 dog every 100 feet today, it would have taken 1000+ of each to cover 26.2 miles. And that's just one side of the street. There's no way you could do it even if you tried. Especially when you have mulitple events going on all around the country at any given time. I understand your point but it really doesn't make sense in these type situations.

Everybody is looking for someone to blame but blaming the cops/feds in this type of thing is senseless. There were no advance warnings for people to ignore. There was no clues that people overlooked. It was just one of those "shiat happens" type of things imo. This was something that can happen anywhere at anytime and there's just no way to effectively stop them all. In fact, I think the cops/feds have done a damn good job k ...


If you can pin it on security it is a big old bogey man that is government. He really just wants to blame it on Obama but he doesn't have the stones.

For one minute can we stop being partisan farktards and just be humans. A tragedy happened today and all of those pointing fingers and screaming racist shiat are not helping. You are putting the country that I love to shame in a horrible display.

Thank you to all those praying for the victims and donating to red cross. I am off to give blood tomorrow, not for Boston, but because it is the right thing to do. Perhaps more people should do the right thing, and right now that might mean, shutting up and waiting to find out before going off on Alex Jonesesque tirades.
 
2013-04-16 12:55:05 AM  

draa: Void_Beavis: TalenLee: Still three dead, still hundred-ish injured, right? I'm not missing some detail that makes this act somehow immensely more monstrous than it was when first it broke?

Seriously?

Agreed. That's monstrous enough for most. I wish the best for all those involved... except the asshole who did it that is. Hopefully he got plowed by a semi right after making his escape.


No. He/She needs to be found and held accountable. On the way to the cell there will be many stairs and low door ways. Death by semi is too easy.
 
2013-04-16 12:55:36 AM  

BSABSVR: Jaykzo: The internet has solved this case long before the MSM or the FBI ever will, those know-nothing dummies

[i.imgur.com image 608x612]

2 and 6 are both even numbers.  EVEN.  This is somebody getting even.  Another term for getting even is payback.  Who starred in payback?  Mel Gibson.  Half of 26 is 13.  What was Mel Gibson in 13 years ago?  The Patriot.  Patriot Day.

This is payback for Mel Gibson's wife not blowing him in the hot tub.  Study it out.


Can you somehow fit Obama into this? I can't accept your crazy conspiracy theories involving the maiming of American citizens unless you implicate our president in them. Find a way to stuff him into your theory, and I'll ride with you.
 
2013-04-16 12:55:55 AM  
http://www.lowellsun.com/breakingnews/ci_23032570/pray-my-son-father- s ays-chelmsford-man

From things I've seen, this is apparently "picture #8's" father.
 
2013-04-16 12:56:05 AM  
too late?

cache.gawkerassets.com
 
2013-04-16 12:56:29 AM  
Ainsworth: During the night old Perkins had his leg bitten sort of... off.
Dr. Livingstone: Eh? Been in the wars, have we? Well, let's take a look at this one leg of yours. Yes... Yes, well, this is nothing to worry about.
Perkins: Oh, good.
Dr. Livingstone: There's a lot of it about - probably a virus. Keep warm, plenty of rest, and if you're playing any football try and favor the other leg.
Perkins: So it'll just grow back again, will it?

Hey, sorry. It's been a bullshiat day, I always head back to Monty to cheer me up. . . . I guess I needed to post a pic. Ah well.

/Good luck Boston.
 
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