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2013-04-15 11:32:59 PM  
You know what's really upsetting to me, other than the senseless violence today?

We live in what we have convinced ourselves is the greatest country in the world. I was raised to believe this. Even with our shortcomings, there's nowhere else I'd rather live. And sadly, what do we see, here at Fark, on FB, anywhere anyone can comment?

We see a bunch of he said/she said dick swinging, with people fighting and arguing and acting like spoiled children. It's selfish to make this about ourselves. We make it about ourselves when we throw out our completely uneducated, often ignorant opinions, making baseless accusations and fighting with each other.

This thread could be a catch-all for news and updates, which is really what I think the intention was. Instead, we have a bunch of internet tough guys looking foolish. Way to go, fellas. I'm ashamed of you.

/An 8 year old was one of the dead. I have kids. I don't know what I'd do if I lost one of my children.
//hugged my kids after work, gonna go hug them again as they're better behaved than some people in this thread
 
2013-04-15 11:32:59 PM  

SamWaters: No death penalty in Massachusetts, life without the possibility of parole being the only punishment for first-degree murder.   The House twice defeated efforts to have it re-instated, one of the efforts to re-instated it was led by Governor Mitt Romney.


That might be State, but the Feds would likely take over if they really wanted to give the needle.
 
2013-04-15 11:33:27 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: GWSuperfan: The All-Powerful Atheismo: comment was removed, anyone wanna post it again so I can see it?

It was removed- obviously for a reason. Why do you want to poke the Mods with a stick?

As for the mods... don't give a shiat.  I've had comments removed for little crap and then seen people in the very same thread post blatantly worse pictures and have them remain.



This post removed due to a complaint from Nobuko Ichikawa
 
2013-04-15 11:33:27 PM  

limeyfellow: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'm honestly puzzled by this whole thing. Who did it? The Fark lefties are screaming teabaggers, etc. The Fark Righties are screaming Mooslims. And a few others are suggesting IRA, etc. None of these, to me, makes sense.

Here's why:

1) Islamic extremists:  With the exception - I think - of the Lockerbie plane bombing, I do not recall a single instance of Islamic bombings where the group responsible did not claim credit. No one has claimed credit.
Possible reasons, though, why not:
a) the authorities are muzzling the media that would have received the credit claim. This does not seem likely.
b) after our response to 911, perhaps they are afraid. This doesn't make sense either, sense the whole reason for terror attacks is to goad us into attacking something in the Middle East, thereby winning friends and influencing people (not).
c) might be a homegrown Islamic terror cell, in deep cover.

2) Home-grown right wing terrorists: Generally attack targets directly related to their beef (ex: abortion clinics) or government facilities. This target was neither, and the PR blowback would not be beneficial.

3) IRA: As far as I know, the IRA has generally warned authorities when a bombing is about to take place. Also, why would they do this bombing?

4) Other possibilities:

a) Deflection from attention and police presence from a crime elsewhere? Too Hollywood, and no crime has been reported. But maybe the other victims were killed and haven't been discovered yet?

b) Murder. Say I have a reason to murder one of the people either running in the race, or someone I know will be at the finish line. IF the bombs were remote-detonated (say by someone with a line-of-sight view of the area) then this would make sense;
i) detonate when victim is near one of the bombs.
ii) multiple victims, so police have a hard time figuring out who the actual target was.
iii) the bombs make it look like terrorism, not murder.

Thoughts?

The IRA? Why would they bomb the ...


Relevant
 
2013-04-15 11:33:30 PM  
Guy was acting suspicious after the bombing and a group of people tackled him....supposedly this is the "saudi national" they were talking about earlier and he is cooperating with authorities

I've seen muslims shout allah ackbar when enemies have died and when compatriots have died. There are many reasons to say it, I wonder if this was the suspicious activity they are talking about, dude was sending an SOS to God and caught a beatdown.
 
2013-04-15 11:33:34 PM  
Anyone heard from Jackson Herring?
 
2013-04-15 11:34:18 PM  

Uranus Is Huge!: Best case scenario? North Korea claim responsibility...and is telling the truth. I won't hold my breath.


That's as likely as Best Korea finding Colorado on a map.
 
2013-04-15 11:34:34 PM  

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: It's entirely possible we'll never know who did this.


It remaining unsolved would be a good talking point for increased public surveillance.
 
2013-04-15 11:35:05 PM  

Giltric: I've seen muslims shout allah ackbar when enemies have died and when compatriots have died. There are many reasons to say it, I wonder if this was the suspicious activity they are talking about, dude was sending an SOS to God and caught a beatdown.


The "suspicious activity" was running from the explosion.
 
2013-04-15 11:35:11 PM  

try fect taa daa: Did they have to do this right in front of the Polish flag?


I noticed that as well. I was like "oh nice, Poland", then "oh, look, it's on the ground"

Normally I get really mad at stuff like that, but today, it's suspended.
 
2013-04-15 11:35:49 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: As for the mods


There are gross images, and there are legs in a blender images. The pics from this are the latter. If you are so desperate to see images of humans ripped to shreds, take the thirty seconds you were going to use biatching about mods and google it yourself. It really isn't that hard to find.
 
2013-04-15 11:35:53 PM  

Giltric: Guy was acting suspicious after the bombing and a group of people tackled him....supposedly this is the "saudi national" they were talking about earlier and he is cooperating with authorities

I've seen muslims shout allah ackbar when enemies have died and when compatriots have died. There are many reasons to say it, I wonder if this was the suspicious activity they are talking about, dude was sending an SOS to God and caught a beatdown.


He was running away from the explosion. Totally suspicious.
 
2013-04-15 11:36:07 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: GWSuperfan: The All-Powerful Atheismo: comment was removed, anyone wanna post it again so I can see it?

It was removed- obviously for a reason. Why do you want to poke the Mods with a stick?

As for the mods... don't give a shiat.  I've had comments removed for little crap and then seen people in the very same thread post blatantly worse pictures and have them remain.


Yeah, they removed mine that simply said "Goddamn" in response to  Farkingismybusiness' link to pics. WTF?
 
2013-04-15 11:36:09 PM  

Uranus Is Huge!: My money is on some creepy, loner, white guy that hates the govenrment. I really hope it's not a Muslim. At least we'd have a good shot at attacking the correct country. Best case scenario? North Korea claim responsibility...and is telling the truth. I won't hold my breath.


I don't get how anyone has even considered North Korea is involved with this in any way.  Yes, they've been acting extra erratic lately, but claiming responsibility for this would make ZERO sense.  Their current saber-rattling with their missiles is the kind of thing that helps win political support within North Korea, setting off some amateur bombs at a marathon isn't going to win support from anyone.
 
2013-04-15 11:36:09 PM  
I think the President should have a special commission look into this. Put the most experienced people on it.

Bill Ayers can head the commission.
 
2013-04-15 11:36:10 PM  
Worldwalker
two hours after the first runners came across the line? By then, everything that matters is over, the crowds have thinned out, people are starting to leave, etc.


Are you sure?
I didn't look up when the bombs exploded in relation to the running time, but two hours after the first runners arrived would be a great moment if you wanted to hit a lot of runners:
the winner usually runs something like two hours and a handful of minutes, but more than half of the hobby runners in those big event marathons will need over 4 hours.
A few spectators who only wanted to see the winners will have been gone, but there will be lots of people who are there waiting for their friends.

Having been a helper at the Berlin Marathon for years, I would expect thick(est) crowds of runners, helpers and possibly spectators about 1.5-2.5 hours after the top athletes (at kilometer 30/42, too lazy to convert to miles).
If you don't want to shock and terrorize the more or less unknown African dudes who will win the thing, but your average Joe, Suzy and their softball teams running for charity and being greeted by their families, the timing would make perfect sense.
 
2013-04-15 11:36:14 PM  

Amos Quito: It's 30,000 pages, and will be on Obama's desk for signature by Thursday at noon.


And we will have to pass it to see what's in it.
 
2013-04-15 11:36:19 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Surool: TyrantII: The Boston Teaparty was NEVER about taxes.

It was about tariffs being rescinded on EITC imports without being able to protest through parliament or the crown.


tar·iff

Noun
A tax or duty to be paid on a particular class of imports or exports.

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It was about the lack of representation in Parliment. It wasn't the taxes they had a problem with, but the fact they had no say in it anything and they didn't recieve any benefit.


ZOMG facts.
 
2013-04-15 11:36:20 PM  

jack21221: Giltric: I've seen muslims shout allah ackbar when enemies have died and when compatriots have died. There are many reasons to say it, I wonder if this was the suspicious activity they are talking about, dude was sending an SOS to God and caught a beatdown.

The "suspicious activity" was running from the explosion.


To which a lot of people did.
 
2013-04-15 11:36:28 PM  
A marathon is a symbol of the Greek's victory over the Persians at... Marathon. Therefore, I blame Xerxes.
 
2013-04-15 11:36:33 PM  

jack21221: Giltric: I've seen muslims shout allah ackbar when enemies have died and when compatriots have died. There are many reasons to say it, I wonder if this was the suspicious activity they are talking about, dude was sending an SOS to God and caught a beatdown.

The "suspicious activity" was running from the explosion.


Being brown around a bunch of Massholes can also constitute "suspicious activity".
 
2013-04-15 11:36:42 PM  
Bombing civilians has to be right up there on the reprehensible acts scale along with eating your own shiat.

Hey dirtbag who did this: how's it feel to be 2 girls 1 cup famous, motherfarker?
 
2013-04-15 11:37:18 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: they removed mine that simply said "Goddamn" in response to  Farkingismybusiness' link to pics. WTF?


Comments that quote deleted comments are also fodder for deletion.

/Most of this is covered in the FArQ
 
2013-04-15 11:37:37 PM  

mccallcl: Your naiveté is charming. Don't worry about having information withheld from you, it's for your own good, right? If you don't think there's someone or multiple someones sweating bullets right now, trying to figure out an explanation for something captured on camera, you've never participated in a bureaucracy.


Actually, it's more that you appear to have overlooked a lot of facts, such as the sheer number of cameras, or that the perps, if caught on video, aren't likely distinguishable. Wouldn't take much-athletic wear, sunglasses, and a baseball cap and you're not going to be able to tell who the fark it is.

But you know, feel free to continue in your own little world.
 
2013-04-15 11:37:42 PM  
 
2013-04-15 11:37:51 PM  

IwasKloot: My cousin and her fiance were watching the marathon, but fortunately they weren't near either explosion.


Did they have a view of Logan Airport?
 
2013-04-15 11:38:12 PM  

Cobataiwan: I predict this attack was not done on this specific day EXCEPT there was a famous marathon being run at the time.



While I give it 51/49 odds that it's homegrown vs. foreign terrorism, I agree that the event was the target, not the fact that it was tax day and the Tea Party happened in Boston. Also, if it was anti-government, they would probably attack a government building, McVeigh-style. So the event that was attacked makes me think foreign terrorists. However, nobody has claimed responsibility and they were pretty weak bombs, which is not Muslim terrorist MO. You don't train and send a terrorist all the way to the US to set-off gunpowder pipe bombs.

My money's on it being a lone nutjob with an agenda that doesn't fit neatly into the teabagger/Islamist molds.
 
2013-04-15 11:38:20 PM  
There was a local coach that was in communication with his runners. He said that they mentioned a lot more police and military presence than last year. He also said that within seconds of the blast, black SUVs swarmed the scene.

:/
 
2013-04-15 11:38:41 PM  
Btw I like CNN's article, "It can happen anywhere."

Yeah dude. That's kind of the point of terrorism. Let's all be scared in our houses and afraid to get out and enjoy life and not sign up for the next marathon and worry 24/7. Typical media level scare tactics. "Is a new virus going to wipe out humanity? And a fire just killed 3 people. News at 11."

It can happen anywhere, SO you should live like today could be your last day. Hug your kids, love your job, try to be a better person every day. Don't be afraid to live.
 
2013-04-15 11:38:45 PM  

Bontesla: I'm calling it: white male in his 20s. Single. He identifies himself as a sovereign citizen and is probably known by other sovereign citizens because he's notorious for expressing extreme or disturbing sentiments. He's the guy that takes it too far. He's not a Boston native. South or Midwest. He acted alone.


Is any non-mainstream-approved group, isn't that guy usually the FBI plant trolling for low-hanging fruit?
 
2013-04-15 11:39:05 PM  

GWSuperfan: The All-Powerful Atheismo: comment was removed, anyone wanna post it again so I can see it?

It was removed- obviously for a reason. Why do you want to poke the Mods with a stick?


Are comments disappearing from this thread at an unusual rate or something? Every time I try to go find a post the pages are completely different, and I'm not ignoring anyone to cause which posts are on which page to change.

If people are posting inappropriate images, good job on them for quickly getting rid of the images before I see them. Someone posting Ware's pic without warning was bad enough.
 
2013-04-15 11:39:21 PM  

Mrtraveler01: cretinbob: Eric Rudolph felt that the Olympics represented socialism and therefore needed to be stopped.

How does...nevermind, I'm getting a headache trying to comprehend that.


SOmeone posted his rant. Yeah, it takes some pretty special mental gymnastics to understand what he was saying, corporations sponsoring socialism etc, but that's the thing about farkheads that do shiat like this.
 
2013-04-15 11:39:41 PM  

Valacirca: Uranus Is Huge!: My money is on some creepy, loner, white guy that hates the govenrment. I really hope it's not a Muslim. At least we'd have a good shot at attacking the correct country. Best case scenario? North Korea claim responsibility...and is telling the truth. I won't hold my breath.

I don't get how anyone has even considered North Korea is involved with this in any way.  Yes, they've been acting extra erratic lately, but claiming responsibility for this would make ZERO sense.  Their current saber-rattling with their missiles is the kind of thing that helps win political support within North Korea, setting off some amateur bombs at a marathon isn't going to win support from anyone.


I didn't say it was plausible. But if we wound up having to "liberate" a country over this, may as well be them.
 
2013-04-15 11:39:49 PM  

SurelyShirley: Look at the recent case of ex-LAPD officer Dorner, who killed the daughter of the man he thought responsible for his firing, and her fiance.
Also, DC sniper, who supposedly wanted to kill his ex-wife in order to get custody of their kids, and shot all other victims as a diversion


There was also Ronald Clark O'Bryan, who gave out poisoned Pixie Stix at Halloween as a cover for poisoning his own kid for insurance money.  It's not unheard of for someone to plot to kill extra people randomly as a cover for a single murder.

On the other hand, here we're talking about a bombing---this probably requires more skill and sophistication than you'd expect from the kind of guy who says, "I know!  I'll kill a bunch of extra people so I won't get caught!"
 
2013-04-15 11:39:50 PM  
I just found out something farked up about me. I just ordered a Pizza and was chomping on a lovely NY style slice of sausage and roni whilst gazing at that pick 8, and,, well, I continued to enjoy my pizza. The pic was gross and all,,, but still no problem. I got to thinking though, if it was a pic of someone pulling out a long stringy snot out of his/her nose, or someone hacking up a gooey lunger,,, my gag reflex would have stopped my feast. What the fark is wrong with me?
 
2013-04-15 11:40:09 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Prepare to soon strip yourselves fully naked at the airport, spreading your asscheeks wide open and bending over goh-tzee style as you slowly march backwards towards the gloved TSA finger into it slides in deep.

/Gonna be a farking field day for every pedophile TSA goon out there.


I thought that was the whole purpose of the airport bar. And holding cell.
 
2013-04-15 11:40:22 PM  

Cobataiwan: Perhaps we all need a refresher course in how these claims that its all right wingers usually turns out?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/of_massacres_med ia _myths_iwxYulFJ9jKcrBTk50kpOL \

I predict this attack was not done on this specific day EXCEPT there was a famous marathon being run at the time. But that's just a prediction.


"In fact, Stack's suicide note quoted the Communist Manifesto."

Yes - in a positive comparison to capitalism. It's like saying the guy was a fan of Hitler because he called someone Hitler.
 
2013-04-15 11:41:20 PM  

Bisu: GWSuperfan: The All-Powerful Atheismo: comment was removed, anyone wanna post it again so I can see it?

It was removed- obviously for a reason. Why do you want to poke the Mods with a stick?

Are comments disappearing from this thread at an unusual rate or something? Every time I try to go find a post the pages are completely different, and I'm not ignoring anyone to cause which posts are on which page to change.

If people are posting inappropriate images, good job on them for quickly getting rid of the images before I see them. Someone posting Ware's pic without warning was bad enough.


Yes they are.  Inflammatory/useless comments are being deleted, as are ones calling for violence etc.  And ones referencing them.
 
2013-04-15 11:41:27 PM  
100% of "pundits" can go fark themselves.
 
2013-04-15 11:42:11 PM  

s2s2s2: There was a local coach that was in communication with his runners. He said that they mentioned a lot more police and military presence than last year. He also said that within seconds of the blast, black SUVs swarmed the scene.

:/


But the important question is...were there black HELICOPTERS??

That's when you know.
 
2013-04-15 11:42:17 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Cobataiwan: I predict this attack was not done on this specific day EXCEPT there was a famous marathon being run at the time.


While I give it 51/49 odds that it's homegrown vs. foreign terrorism, I agree that the event was the target, not the fact that it was tax day and the Tea Party happened in Boston. Also, if it was anti-government, they would probably attack a government building, McVeigh-style. So the event that was attacked makes me think foreign terrorists. However, nobody has claimed responsibility and they were pretty weak bombs, which is not Muslim terrorist MO. You don't train and send a terrorist all the way to the US to set-off gunpowder pipe bombs.

My money's on it being a lone nutjob with an agenda that doesn't fit neatly into the teabagger/Islamist molds.


Is it really "terrorism" if it turns out to have been perpetrated by, say,  a lone nutjob with no sane agenda?
 
2013-04-15 11:42:23 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Local reporter in Boston is reporting that a federal search warrant is being executed at an apartment building on Revere Street.

https://twitter.com/kathyreports/status/323994139568009217


Both the Boston Globe and a local Boston TV station are claiming that an apartment in Revere Beach is being searched by law enforcement.


The Globe and a Boston TV station are claiming that a Severe biatch is being searched by law enforcement.

Pass it on.
 
2013-04-15 11:42:27 PM  
It's pretty stupid that people thought the bomber was one of the injured victims in the hospital. I'm sure the only person on the planet who knew those bombs were going to go off sure as fark wasn't standing next to one of them waiting for it to explode. McVeigh was blocks away from his truck bomb when it went off, and I'm sure this @sshole was too.
 
2013-04-15 11:43:01 PM  

bdub77: Btw I like CNN's article, "It can happen anywhere."

Yeah dude. That's kind of the point of terrorism. Let's all be scared in our houses and afraid to get out and enjoy life and not sign up for the next marathon and worry 24/7. Typical media level scare tactics. "Is a new virus going to wipe out humanity? And a fire just killed 3 people. News at 11."

It can happen anywhere, SO you should live like today could be your last day. Hug your kids, love your job, try to be a better person every day. Don't be afraid to live.


That reminds me, I need to duct tape my windows.
 
2013-04-15 11:43:10 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Both the Boston Globe and a local Boston TV station are claiming that an apartment in Revere Beach is being searched by law enforcement.


Well, tomorrow will probably be a media circus regarding the guy responsible, then.

/see ya there
 
2013-04-15 11:43:30 PM  

bdub77: Btw I like CNN's article, "It can happen anywhere."

Yeah dude. That's kind of the point of terrorism. Let's all be scared in our houses and afraid to get out and enjoy life and not sign up for the next marathon and worry 24/7. Typical media level scare tactics. "Is a new virus going to wipe out humanity? And a fire just killed 3 people. News at 11."

 

Yeah, between that story and the "Obama didn't use the word 'terrorism"!!" story, CNN really is trolling for the lowest common denominator of mouth-breathing humanity.    Judging by the comments sections, it's working.

You know what can truly happen anywhere?  Being involved in a fatal car crash.   I passed one this morning.  OMGZ everyone stay in your houses forever!!!!
 
2013-04-15 11:43:33 PM  
So who one the race?
 
2013-04-15 11:43:37 PM  

Cobataiwan: I think the President should have a special commission look into this. Put the most experienced people on it.

Bill Ayers can head the commission.


They'll probably blame it on a youtube video.
 
2013-04-15 11:43:40 PM  

GWSuperfan: thisisyourbrainonFark: they removed mine that simply said "Goddamn" in response to  Farkingismybusiness' link to pics. WTF?

Comments that quote deleted comments are also fodder for deletion.

/Most of this is covered in the FArQ


So they deleted  Farkingismybusiness' link? The one that shows actual news? I guess it really isn't news, it's fark.
 
2013-04-15 11:43:58 PM  
i.imgur.com

*sigh*
 
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