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2013-04-15 10:07:54 PM

Silly_Sot: I laid out the three most likely scenarios as to who may have done this:

1. TERRORISTS - domestic or foreign who are either acting out of perceived "revenge" or are trying to make a "statement".

2. False-Flag - an act committed by one party with the specific intent of having a third party (or group) blamed - the goal being political gain.

3. Crazies who have no motive other than destruction.

What other possibility could there be?


4. "Criminal False-Flag", in which an "ordinary" murder attempt is masked as a terrorist bombing. This wouldn't be the first time that sort of thing happened in the USA. There was a series of pipe bombs set off some years ago that had people coming up with all kind of political scenarios. Turned out that it was a murder for money with extra bombings to throw people off the trail.



That is indeed a possibility!

Good on you for "thinking outside the bomb".
 
2013-04-15 10:07:55 PM
Good news! WSJ's claim of five more bombs is incorrect and they were just suspicious items.

So it's only two bombs confirmed and I hope it stays that way.
 
2013-04-15 10:07:56 PM

Peki: raerae1980: Having seen legs without bones was just as jarring.

Out of morbid curiosity, how does one get to that state? (or are you talking non-functional bones, as in a broken leg?)


The deceased had donated their lower leg bones.  So, after the technician removed the bones, they sewed the legs back up.  It looked so weird...imagine cooked spaghetti.
 
2013-04-15 10:08:16 PM

super_grass: Looks like the aftermath of a drone strike, terrible.


I give it a 9/10.  My cousin is probably going to post the equivalent to that on his Facebook wall tomorrow or the next day, just like he did after the Newton shootings, but he'll actually mean it.
 
2013-04-15 10:09:05 PM

MrHappyRotter: Corn_Fed: It's not a true tragedy until Pat Robertson blames it all on the gays.

I'm fairly sure Westboro has already said this is punishment for Mass. allowing gay marriage, so close enough.  It's really amazing how much damage I was able to do considering I didn't even know about this until several hours after it happened and even though I haven't had sex in months.

I do apologize to all the straight folks that were killed and maimed because I chose to be attracted to men instead of women.


It's ok I still like you.

Hugs and kisses

Muir
 
2013-04-15 10:09:24 PM

All_Farked_Up: Claymores would not make the amount of smoke seen. And the damage would have been much worse.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBB3OS0Ir2U">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=mBB3OS0Ir2U

Looks like the same amount of smoke to me. And the footage of the blast shows most of it going toward the barricade. And there were a lot of ball bearings hitting people's legs. I have no idea what they used, and suggestions are that they were home made devices. SO maybe something that mimicked claymores. Anyhow, they do make quite a bit of smoke.
 
2013-04-15 10:09:53 PM

Two Hearted: IlGreven: Also, if you're gonna give to the Red Cross, give a little bit more to Joe Andruzzi's foundation.  After how he handled the aftermath, his charity deserves a little attention, too.

I'm pretty sure that's the lady that was being carried by her young daughter in one of the early clips, so good on him. They looked terrified.


That sounds reasonable and I'm not a fan of Red Cross so "The Readers of Fark" have just sent a decent donation their way.
 
2013-04-15 10:10:08 PM

serial_crusher: super_grass: Looks like the aftermath of a drone strike, terrible.

I give it a 9/10.  My cousin is probably going to post the equivalent to that on his Facebook wall tomorrow or the next day, just like he did after the Newton shootings, but he'll actually mean it.


Your opinion matters.

Really.
 
2013-04-15 10:10:17 PM

Mister Pleco: I don't know if the device was in plain sight.  Earlier, I posted that there are two mailboxes located in the general vicinity of the blast by the finish line:  http://goo.gl/maps/rRmj9


At first I thought you were just clouded by the tinfoil, but i honestly bet that would explain the lower leg extremities (I bet those boxes are weaker at the bottom), the limitations of the blast, and the shrapnel.
 
2013-04-15 10:10:31 PM

super_grass: Keizer_Ghidorah: super_grass: farkingismybusiness: Here's some more EXTREMELY NSFW NSFL photos from immediately after the blasts.

Looks like the aftermath of a drone strike, terrible.

Just like any kind of explosion caused by any kind of explosive. What was the point of this little shiat-bit?

List them.

America got a little slice of middle eastern hell today and people need to know that others are suffering from this fate outside of the country too.

But I guess empathy is a non renewable resource not to be wasted on brown people, right? Bigot.


America is not responsible for the hell that is the Middle East.

But if they're responsible, we'll bring them a new kind of Hell.
 
2013-04-15 10:10:34 PM
serial_crusher: ok, this isn't rotten.com, guys.You're right. It's reality. Real life. Where crap happens and Disney isn't sitting outside your front door.Bad stuff happens in life. We don't like to accept it. The sooner you do, the easier you can get around in life. I would call myself slightly jaded for viewing sites like bestgore or the former site known as rotten, but at the same time I am a better person for it because I can easier accept tragedies when they happen, and displace my emotions to help others when needed or to look at things from a different perspective and perhaps learn from them as a result.Life is not all peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. It's closer to pimento cheese and bologna.
 
2013-04-15 10:10:35 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Infernalist: What if these bombs weren't home-made at all, but military equipment?

What kind of military equipment creates the a big smoke cloud with minimal casualties?


One made for shock and awe?
 
2013-04-15 10:11:21 PM

born_yesterday: Boojum2k: "darker-skinned or black male" with a possible foreign accent

Thank God there's only a few people matching that description in any large city.  Certainly, such a vague description will have no negative consequences.


That was my point, Certainly interesting that they now have someone to focus on, but that's a worthless description in the Boston area. When I lived near there, half the people I knew were dark skinned and foreign, from all over the world.

/Flying out of there a month after 9/11, the National Guardsman who asked me if I had seen anyone suspicious was very dark Arabic with a Middle Eastern accent.
//I told him "no" honestly
 
2013-04-15 10:11:29 PM
Let the farking Doctor help the farking victims....

What the fark is the doctor going to know about IED's?  "Can you please speak up?" "Can you please look over here?"

fark these reporters...
 
2013-04-15 10:12:03 PM
I haven't read this whole thread, just skimmed it, but there's one thing I'm not seeing:

There's all sorts of speculation among my fellow Farkers about whether it's foreign terrorism, domestic terrorism, Muslims, Tea Partiers, or some random sort of wacko ... and missing one possibility:

Why would someone who wanted to make a major "statement" and cause mass mayhem/death set off bombs two hours after the first runners came across the line? By then, everything that matters is over, the crowds have thinned out, people are starting to leave, etc.

On the other hand, if someone was specifically trying to kill one or more people in the crowd, and have it blamed on terrorism, that would be a good way to do it. People have crashed planes to kill someone on board them -- why not set off bombs? If I was the cops, I'd want to look really hard at the ex-spouses, spurned lovers, fired employees, etc., of everyone who was in that area at the time. It would not surprise me in the slightest to find the murderer among them.

Scenario: Fred is a former postal worker who wants to kill Charlie, the guy who fired him. He knows Charlie's son Joe is going to be running in the Boston Marathon. So he plants his bombs, and when Joe is close to the finish line, and Charlie is moving up to watch him finish, Fred sets off the bombs. Maybe he kills Charlie, maybe he has to try again later, but either way, nobody's looking at him. He was just a guy in the crowd, and not any sort of terrorist. Just, y'know, a guy with a major beef against someone else who he knew was going to be there.

Truth? Speculation? I dunno. But it doesn't seem to be anything anyone is looking at.
 
2013-04-15 10:12:29 PM

Great Porn Dragon: That said...I can't say what group this was, but (again, based on my own research on these groups--and this is something I do professionally) if this isn't from SOME far-right group with either a history of domestic terrorism or close connections with a group with a history of domestic terrorism, I'll eat my hat.


A promise has been made.
 
2013-04-15 10:12:36 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians.


www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov

Professor... Bomber... Adviser to Presidents
 
2013-04-15 10:12:38 PM

serial_crusher: Mister Pleco: mccallcl: mesmer242: Anyone who's already at the blaming stage just sounds like this to me.

What if they're blaming the Department of Homeland Security and the BPD, who are supposed to protect us from terror plots, especially those that result in unattended packages set right on the ground in plain sight? What was Boston doing with all those DHS millions? Keeping us safe from Moonenites?

I don't know if the device was in plain sight.  Earlier, I posted that there are two mailboxes located in the general vicinity of the blast by the finish line:  http://goo.gl/maps/rRmj9

So, not just a false flag operation against our civil liberties, but also another attempt by the Republicans to undermine the post office, huh?


Would be a good place to stash something explosive that would generate a lot of shrapnel.  Also, I don't see any mailboxes in sight on some of those horrendous pictures.  They could have been removed prior - or not.  Just armchairing.
 
2013-04-15 10:12:44 PM

WizardofToast: Good news! WSJ's claim of five more bombs is incorrect and they were just suspicious items.

So it's only two bombs confirmed and I hope it stays that way.


So 100% success rate, 0 failures? It COULD have been foreign terrorists then?
 
2013-04-15 10:12:44 PM

Infernalist: America is not responsible for the hell that is the Middle East.


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-15 10:12:49 PM

Mistymtnhop: cretinbob: that was my nickname in highschool: I watched that a couple times and thought there was just as good a chance he rolled his ankle or twisted his knee in distraction. Or maybe just fell from freight.

The video seems to show a white object striking him, but as he fell, not when he starts to buckle.


;)  with his age I was wondering if he were a veteran and that was just a reflex to get down.

I kinda thought he "hit the deck" after the explosion, too You can see that the two girls on the sidelines, closer to the blast, with the yellow raincoats on are also started, but the aren't knocked off their feet. My husband, however, says look at the man's knees when he goes down, they look like they buckle. Like he was hit with shrapnel. But I think someone said earlier that the man was okay? Does anyone know?

 
2013-04-15 10:13:38 PM
Today's events have both saddened and angered me, sentiments I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling. Then coming into these threads and seeing countless Farkers stumble over one another to place the blame on whichever group suits their particular agenda and personal viewpoint angered me further. I was honestly disgusted with humanity. Then, I stopped and realized that this is probably the symptom of living in an age where we have instantaneous access to horrible events yet, stuck behind our keyboards, there's simply nothing we can do about them. We can't help those afflicted, we can't lend a helping hand, we can't search for those responsible. In that void maybe we search for something, anything, to do. And maybe assigning blame seems the path of least resistance.

Looking at the scenes of carnage from the race my first thoughts were "what sort of monster would do this?" and if I let myself go down that path it's easy to start to believe that the world is going to hell and that we've completely lost our humanity. But when you look past the images of maimed people you see countless others who rushed to the scene, disregarding their own safety, to help in any way possible. For every one monster out there, there are least 1000 people willing to stop and help, to lend a hand or a shoulder. For every political douchebag interested in scoring points in some twisted blame game, there are a thousand people who want nothing more than peace for those injured and justice brought to those responsible.

So, I'm going to make a donation to the red cross (I'm too light to donate blood), I'm going to help my elderly neighbour trim her hedges tomorrow evening and I'm going to hug my friends and offer them my time should they need it. I can't help the people of Boston, but I can make my tiny corner of the world a better place, and collectively that beats any monster with a bomb full of shrapnel every time. At least, in my opinion it does.

/sorry for rant
//yeah, lighten up francis
 
2013-04-15 10:13:46 PM
I finally looked at pic #8. 

/ wish I hadn't.
// nightmares.
/// I hope that guy is ok.
 
2013-04-15 10:13:58 PM
Find them

Track them

Kill them
 
2013-04-15 10:14:35 PM

super_grass: Infernalist: America is not responsible for the hell that is the Middle East.

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 243x207]


Nice rebuttal.
 
2013-04-15 10:14:54 PM

super_grass: Infernalist: America is not responsible for the hell that is the Middle East.

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 243x207]


Your cartoon supports your arguments so well (whatever arguments those may be..)
 
2013-04-15 10:15:01 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Amos Quito: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: tenpoundsofcheese: Somacandra: hasty ambush: Did somebody say anti-government Domestic terrorist?

So you think Bill Ayers did this? You should probably let the FBI know if you have some information to that effect. That's what I would do.

The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians is an anti-government American.

Yeah, because if there is ONE THING that represents the abusive power of American Government, it's the Boston Marathon.

/Baked bean DERP

Lots of people available to kill and hurt. Lots of people and cameras watching. High-profile event.

At least try to think once in a while instead of immediately posting retarded idiocy.



Yeah, high-profile event with mucho media coverage. So?

Bombing the Boston Marathon as an "anti-Government" statement would make as much sense as PETA bombing an Arbor Day tree-planting.

/Double-Down-Derp
 
2013-04-15 10:15:05 PM
A claymore would typically have dark smoke. The white was a tell that it was a homemade bomb, and not particularly well done.

So says some 'voice of' on CNN a few hours back.
 
2013-04-15 10:15:23 PM

miss diminutive: Today's events have both saddened and angered me, sentiments I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling. Then coming into these threads and seeing countless Farkers stumble over one another to place the blame on whichever group suits their particular agenda and personal viewpoint angered me further. I was honestly disgusted with humanity. Then, I stopped and realized that this is probably the symptom of living in an age where we have instantaneous access to horrible events yet, stuck behind our keyboards, there's simply nothing we can do about them. We can't help those afflicted, we can't lend a helping hand, we can't search for those responsible. In that void maybe we search for something, anything, to do. And maybe assigning blame seems the path of least resistance.

Looking at the scenes of carnage from the race my first thoughts were "what sort of monster would do this?" and if I let myself go down that path it's easy to start to believe that the world is going to hell and that we've completely lost our humanity. But when you look past the images of maimed people you see countless others who rushed to the scene, disregarding their own safety, to help in any way possible. For every one monster out there, there are least 1000 people willing to stop and help, to lend a hand or a shoulder. For every political douchebag interested in scoring points in some twisted blame game, there are a thousand people who want nothing more than peace for those injured and justice brought to those responsible.

So, I'm going to make a donation to the red cross (I'm too light to donate blood), I'm going to help my elderly neighbour trim her hedges tomorrow evening and I'm going to hug my friends and offer them my time should they need it. I can't help the people of Boston, but I can make my tiny corner of the world a better place, and collectively that beats any monster with a bomb full of shrapnel every time. At least, in my opinion it does.

/sorry for rant
//yeah, lighten up francis


That was wonderfully said.  I needed to hear that.
 
2013-04-15 10:15:43 PM

robolobo: Find them

Track them

Kill them


Job for robot Nixon?
 
2013-04-15 10:15:45 PM

Worldwalker: I haven't read this whole thread, just skimmed it, but there's one thing I'm not seeing:

There's all sorts of speculation among my fellow Farkers about whether it's foreign terrorism, domestic terrorism, Muslims, Tea Partiers, or some random sort of wacko ... and missing one possibility:

Why would someone who wanted to make a major "statement" and cause mass mayhem/death set off bombs two hours after the first runners came across the line? By then, everything that matters is over, the crowds have thinned out, people are starting to leave, etc.

On the other hand, if someone was specifically trying to kill one or more people in the crowd, and have it blamed on terrorism, that would be a good way to do it. People have crashed planes to kill someone on board them -- why not set off bombs? If I was the cops, I'd want to look really hard at the ex-spouses, spurned lovers, fired employees, etc., of everyone who was in that area at the time. It would not surprise me in the slightest to find the murderer among them.

Scenario: Fred is a former postal worker who wants to kill Charlie, the guy who fired him. He knows Charlie's son Joe is going to be running in the Boston Marathon. So he plants his bombs, and when Joe is close to the finish line, and Charlie is moving up to watch him finish, Fred sets off the bombs. Maybe he kills Charlie, maybe he has to try again later, but either way, nobody's looking at him. He was just a guy in the crowd, and not any sort of terrorist. Just, y'know, a guy with a major beef against someone else who he knew was going to be there.

Truth? Speculation? I dunno. But it doesn't seem to be anything anyone is looking at.


I'm not sure if this is realistic or not, but you should definitely be writing for CSI.
 
2013-04-15 10:16:27 PM

tripleseven:  Fox News shut off their comments on their site.  Apparently, they got tired of their own derp.  So, the derp moved to CNN and Yahoo news.

As I don't go to that site, I didn't know that- but it makes perfect sense.

meat0918: tripleseven: Your Average Witty Fark User: Somacandra: Your Average Witty Fark User: I can't believe the number of people commenting on places like CNN blaming this on Obama.

I don't see even the hypothetical connection. Are people actually suggesting it was some kind of drone strike from the White House on the Boston Marathon?

I've seen "It's Obama's fault because he didn't stop it", "It's Obama's fault because he golfed on Saturday", "It's Obama's fault because he planned this to happen", "Radical Islam did it, so Obama", "Democrats are behind this to increase the TSA so Obama", "Socialism, so Obama", "Obama lied about Beghazi, he's lying about this", "If Obama had just banned bombs like he wants to ban guns...", etc, etc, etc...

It makes me farking sick. CNN comments look like Fox News. It sickens me to think half of this country has an IQ of 3. Combined.

Fox News shut off their comments on their site.  Apparently, they got tired of their own derp.  So, the derp moved to CNN and Yahoo news.

Wow.

Just wow


We think we have trolls here on Fark.

Don't read the comments on CNN. These people genuinely believe what they're saying. And it's sickening.
 
2013-04-15 10:17:04 PM

WinoRhino: Looks like the same amount of smoke to me. And the footage of the blast shows most of it going toward the barricade. And there were a lot of ball bearings hitting people's legs. I have no idea what they used, and suggestions are that they were home made devices. SO maybe something that mimicked claymores. Anyhow, they do make quite a bit of smoke.


The smoke you saw in that video was the result of it being detonated on dirt. A claymore would have shredded everybody within 50 yards and you'd have a lot more than 3 people dead.
 
2013-04-15 10:17:08 PM

Infernalist: super_grass: Infernalist: America is not responsible for the hell that is the Middle East.

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 243x207]

Nice rebuttal.


There is no debate in the harm caused by America's interventionist policies in the mideast.

To deny its impact would be to deny the impact of the triangle trade. And it takes a special kind of "American exceptionalism" idiocy to do so.
 
2013-04-15 10:17:25 PM

robolobo: Find them

Track them

Kill them


Hang 'em in the Common
 
2013-04-15 10:17:31 PM

nvmac: Mock26: So, has anyone in this thread yet blamed the government for this?

Did you want to be the first?


I did not make any such claim.  I was just wondering if any of the asshats were out yet.
 
2013-04-15 10:17:32 PM

that bosnian sniper: hardinparamedic: so you're insinuating a US soldier did this?

That's what you're saying here?

Wade Michael Page, Nidal Hasan, Jim David Adkisson, Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and Michael Fortier. Six names, right off the top of my head, and I know if I went to my bookshelf I could probably double or triple that list with less time and effort than it took me to write  thispost.  What do all six of those people have in common?


The same thing as 2,280,875 other people--they happen to have worn or currently wear a uniform of one of this nation's five armed forces.

So you can triple that number to 18 if you go to your bookshelf? Good for you. It still doesn't even come to one tenth of one percent of the men and women who serve honorably so that you have the First Amendment freedom to be a farkwit. It doesn't equal one millionth of one percent of the men and women who have served honorably over the past 238 years to guarantee that right to your ancestors and mine.

And yes, I did find that number with less time and effort than it took anyone here to write any post in this thread.

For what it's worth, the actions of men like McVeigh (I live in Oklahoma City) and all those listed and unlisted that have tarnished the honor of the uniform--my uniform--repulse me... but so does your (currently because there is no information to support it, nor is there currently any information to support the accusation that the perpetrator is a person from a Middle Eastern country) unfounded accusation. Still, I swore an oath to defend the Constitution, even when I disagree vehemently with the bullshiat and verbal diarrhea being spewed from the mouths of others.

What happened in Boston today is not about politics--yours, mine, or anyone else's. It's a horrific tragedy in which people are dead and dying, people are losing limbs, and there is still blood running in the streets of Boston on what should be a day celebrating the triumph of one of the oldest sporting events and traditions in our country. Leave the bullshiat out of it, wish the best for the Farkers in Boston, and if you're so inclined, send prayers, best wishes, happy thoughts, wishes upon a star, or general positivity towards Boston and Massachusetts in general. But for fark's sake, keep that political bullshiat to yourself. Just for one goddamned day.

Even here on Fark, there really is such a thing as "too soon." And within twelve hours falls in that category.
 
2013-04-15 10:17:36 PM

Cluckity: A claymore would typically have dark smoke. The white was a tell that it was a homemade bomb, and not particularly well done.

So says some 'voice of' on CNN a few hours back.


Perhaps they blew up a new pope.
 
2013-04-15 10:17:41 PM
I saw a picture way more gruesome than "picture 8" on Instagram. It makes Kevin Ware's injury look like a papercut.

/worked in an ER
//not really phased by stuff like that but still sad.
 
2013-04-15 10:17:56 PM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-15 10:18:18 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: tenpoundsofcheese: The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians.

[www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov image 255x313]

Professor... Bomber... Adviser to Presidents


upload.wikimedia.org

"Amateur"
 
2013-04-15 10:18:23 PM

Fiction Fan: Here's some more EXTREMELY NSFW NSFL photos from immediately after the blasts.


2nd photo: DAMN.
Dude is missing his entre foot!


link is not clickable :(
 
2013-04-15 10:18:24 PM

headlly: Let the farking Doctor help the farking victims....

What the fark is the doctor going to know about IED's?  "Can you please speak up?" "Can you please look over here?"

fark these reporters...


Since there's no news at this point, I stopped watching all the retards on CNNBCFOX because it's all the same sensationalist derp.
 
2013-04-15 10:18:38 PM

Mugato: tenpoundsofcheese: The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians.

It's pretty clear that you're not a fan of higher education.


What you did there...
 
2013-04-15 10:18:47 PM

super_grass: Keizer_Ghidorah: super_grass: farkingismybusiness: Here's some more EXTREMELY NSFW NSFL photos from immediately after the blasts.

Looks like the aftermath of a drone strike, terrible.

Just like any kind of explosion caused by any kind of explosive. What was the point of this little shiat-bit?

List them.

America got a little slice of middle eastern hell today and people need to know that others are suffering from this fate outside of the country too.

But I guess empathy is a non renewable resource not to be wasted on brown people, right? Bigot.


What the flying fark are you rambling about? And good job with the ASSuming and ad hominim.
 
2013-04-15 10:19:07 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Infernalist: What if these bombs weren't home-made at all, but military equipment?

What kind of military equipment creates the a big smoke cloud with minimal casualties?


you might want to clarify if it has to be from this century or not?

ecx.images-amazon.com

/thankfully whoever did this couldn't get their hands on a few claymores.  that would have been messier
 
2013-04-15 10:19:13 PM

miss diminutive: Today's events have both saddened and angered me, sentiments I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling. Then coming into these threads and seeing countless Farkers stumble over one another to place the blame on whichever group suits their particular agenda and personal viewpoint angered me further. I was honestly disgusted with humanity. Then, I stopped and realized that this is probably the symptom of living in an age where we have instantaneous access to horrible events yet, stuck behind our keyboards, there's simply nothing we can do about them. We can't help those afflicted, we can't lend a helping hand, we can't search for those responsible. In that void maybe we search for something, anything, to do. And maybe assigning blame seems the path of least resistance.

Looking at the scenes of carnage from the race my first thoughts were "what sort of monster would do this?" and if I let myself go down that path it's easy to start to believe that the world is going to hell and that we've completely lost our humanity. But when you look past the images of maimed people you see countless others who rushed to the scene, disregarding their own safety, to help in any way possible. For every one monster out there, there are least 1000 people willing to stop and help, to lend a hand or a shoulder. For every political douchebag interested in scoring points in some twisted blame game, there are a thousand people who want nothing more than peace for those injured and justice brought to those responsible.

So, I'm going to make a donation to the red cross (I'm too light to donate blood), I'm going to help my elderly neighbour trim her hedges tomorrow evening and I'm going to hug my friends and offer them my time should they need it. I can't help the people of Boston, but I can make my tiny corner of the world a better place, and collectively that beats any monster with a bomb full of shrapnel every time. At least, in my opinion it does.

/sorry for rant
//yeah, lighten up francis


As a big bad mean man who is generally grouchy all the time, I say 'bravo' to you, m'lady!

/favorited
 
2013-04-15 10:19:22 PM

fritton: super_grass: Infernalist: America is not responsible for the hell that is the Middle East.

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 243x207]

Your cartoon supports your arguments so well (whatever arguments those may be..)


Shouldn't you be counting your blood money, cheney?
 
2013-04-15 10:19:53 PM

cloakandbadger: Worldwalker: I haven't read this whole thread, just skimmed it, but there's one thing I'm not seeing:

There's all sorts of speculation among my fellow Farkers about whether it's foreign terrorism, domestic terrorism, Muslims, Tea Partiers, or some random sort of wacko ... and missing one possibility:

Why would someone who wanted to make a major "statement" and cause mass mayhem/death set off bombs two hours after the first runners came across the line? By then, everything that matters is over, the crowds have thinned out, people are starting to leave, etc.

On the other hand, if someone was specifically trying to kill one or more people in the crowd, and have it blamed on terrorism, that would be a good way to do it. People have crashed planes to kill someone on board them -- why not set off bombs? If I was the cops, I'd want to look really hard at the ex-spouses, spurned lovers, fired employees, etc., of everyone who was in that area at the time. It would not surprise me in the slightest to find the murderer among them.

Scenario: Fred is a former postal worker who wants to kill Charlie, the guy who fired him. He knows Charlie's son Joe is going to be running in the Boston Marathon. So he plants his bombs, and when Joe is close to the finish line, and Charlie is moving up to watch him finish, Fred sets off the bombs. Maybe he kills Charlie, maybe he has to try again later, but either way, nobody's looking at him. He was just a guy in the crowd, and not any sort of terrorist. Just, y'know, a guy with a major beef against someone else who he knew was going to be there.

Truth? Speculation? I dunno. But it doesn't seem to be anything anyone is looking at.

I'm not sure if this is realistic or not, but you should definitely be writing for CSI.


Early indications don't seem to support this, but, I wouldn't be surprised for someone to try this... other than, usually that person ONLY wants to target the person who "wronged them"... they wouldn't want to possibly kill a bunch of other innocent people.  Even when someone goes on a rampage like that at their old job... they generally probably didn't like other people there either, so, extra "carnage" is fine, they don't consider their old co-workers "innocents".   So, while a fanciful theory, I'm not sure how many people in that situation would want to set up something like we saw today.
 
2013-04-15 10:20:04 PM

super_grass: Infernalist: super_grass: Infernalist: America is not responsible for the hell that is the Middle East.

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Nice rebuttal.

There is no debate in the harm caused by America's interventionist policies in the mideast.

To deny its impact would be to deny the impact of the triangle trade. And it takes a special kind of "American exceptionalism" idiocy to do so.


And that means the US is fully responsible for the problems in the middle east.  Without us they'd be a thriving Utopia and they have *certainly* never themselves caused harm to any other nation.  So says random internet guy who still hasn't made any sort of point whatsoever.
 
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