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2013-04-15 09:44:29 PM

mesmer242: Anyone who's already at the blaming stage just sounds like this to me.


What if they're blaming the Department of Homeland Security and the BPD, who are supposed to protect us from terror plots, especially those that result in unattended packages set right on the ground in plain sight? What was Boston doing with all those DHS millions? Keeping us safe from Moonenites?
 
2013-04-15 09:44:41 PM
If you want to see a bunch of butthurt teabaggers, search Twitter for "Chris Matthews".  You're welcome.
 
2013-04-15 09:45:07 PM

ScaryBottles: Who did you have your heart set on blaming?

Koreans?

Iranians?

Mooselimbs?

Palestinians?

You go ahead and blame whoever makes you feel better. Mmmkay?

I'm not blaming anyone I have no idea who did you're the one jumping to conclusions.



LOL!

I laid out the three most likely scenarios as to who may have done this:

1. TERRORISTS - domestic or foreign who are either acting out of perceived "revenge" or are trying to make a "statement".

2. False-Flag - an act committed by one party with the specific intent of having a third party (or group) blamed - the goal being political gain.

3. Crazies who have no motive other than destruction.

What other possibility could there be?

Maybe it was an accident?
 
2013-04-15 09:46:07 PM
 
2013-04-15 09:46:32 PM

PumpkinCake: jaytkay: PumpkinCake: IlGreven: Also, if you're gonna give to the Red Cross, give a little bit more to Joe Andruzzi's foundation.  After how he handled the aftermath, his charity deserves a little attention, too.

This is a really dumb question, but I'm out in CA.  Would donating blood help all the way over here?

/O- and I know where the donation clinic is in town already, just a question of curiosity.

Do it. Donating blood always helps someone.

It helped me. I needed 8 or so when I was younger. I then married a man who is also O-, and we have a bunch of O- babies in our house. We're donating our whole lives to help people.

I was just curious if it would help the people in Boston. I remember after 9-11 we got turned away by some snotty people at the Red Cross when we tried to donate, and maybe I should just let that go.


Don't go to the Red Cross. Go to your local hospital. Nothing exactly horribly wrong with it, because there is a useful economy in blood, but the Red Cross resells blood to the hospitals for a markup.
 
2013-04-15 09:46:47 PM

Samwise Gamgee: Maybe they're put in place in response to the initial rumors that there was a suspect at the hospital, in case people try to go all vigilante and storm the place? Jest speculatin'.


That Canadian guy who allegedly heard that woman warning runners, claims the 'locals' are ready to hang someone in the streets. So it would make sense.

If it is a false flag attack, they'll be sure to present a target for all that rage soon enough. People who can't control their emotions are so easily led by them.
 
2013-04-15 09:47:28 PM

Tak the Hideous New Girl: I saw his Youtube interview. I hope Mr. Arrendondo gets some help and I really hope that the guy in picture #8 lives.


The more pictures I see of #8, and the fact that the hospitals I guess are extremely close, the more optimistic I am.
Yes, he's a bit pale which is to be expected from a hemorrhage of that magnitude, but he is conscious. That goes a long way.

Fiction Fan: Have the assholes at Westboro Church released a statement yet?


Of course they have
 
2013-04-15 09:47:29 PM

cretinbob: that was my nickname in highschool: I watched that a couple times and thought there was just as good a chance he rolled his ankle or twisted his knee in distraction. Or maybe just fell from freight.




;)  with his age I was wondering if he were a veteran and that was just a reflex to get down.


I kinda thought he "hit the deck" after the explosion, too You can see that the two girls on the sidelines, closer to the blast, with the yellow raincoats on are also started, but the aren't knocked off their feet. My husband, however, says look at the man's knees when he goes down, they look like they buckle. Like he was hit with shrapnel. But I think someone said earlier that the man was okay? Does anyone know?
 
2013-04-15 09:47:36 PM

mccallcl: mesmer242: Anyone who's already at the blaming stage just sounds like this to me.

What if they're blaming the Department of Homeland Security and the BPD, who are supposed to protect us from terror plots, especially those that result in unattended packages set right on the ground in plain sight? What was Boston doing with all those DHS millions? Keeping us safe from Moonenites?


Send more money, yield more power.

To paraphrase Carlin.....It's events like these that really get the politicians to cross the aisle and work together....to Fark America.
 
2013-04-15 09:47:47 PM

mccallcl: mesmer242: Anyone who's already at the blaming stage just sounds like this to me.

What if they're blaming the Department of Homeland Security and the BPD, who are supposed to protect us from terror plots, especially those that result in unattended packages set right on the ground in plain sight? What was Boston doing with all those DHS millions? Keeping us safe from Moonenites?


I don't know if the device was in plain sight.  Earlier, I posted that there are two mailboxes located in the general vicinity of the blast by the finish line:  http://goo.gl/maps/rRmj9
 
2013-04-15 09:48:49 PM

mccallcl: mesmer242: Anyone who's already at the blaming stage just sounds like this to me.

What if they're blaming the Department of Homeland Security and the BPD, who are supposed to protect us from terror plots, especially those that result in unattended packages set right on the ground in plain sight? What was Boston doing with all those DHS millions? Keeping us safe from Moonenites?


In plain sight?  How do you know this?

The only person who knows exactly what happened at this point is the one who set it up.

/knock, knock
 
2013-04-15 09:49:04 PM

Fiction Fan: Have the assholes at Westboro Church released a statement yet?


They tweeted. It was as classy as you'd expect from them.
 
2013-04-15 09:49:04 PM

Mistymtnhop: cretinbob: that was my nickname in highschool: I watched that a couple times and thought there was just as good a chance he rolled his ankle or twisted his knee in distraction. Or maybe just fell from freight.

;)  with his age I was wondering if he were a veteran and that was just a reflex to get down.

I kinda thought he "hit the deck" after the explosion, too You can see that the two girls on the sidelines, closer to the blast, with the yellow raincoats on are also started, but the aren't knocked off their feet. My husband, however, says look at the man's knees when he goes down, they look like they buckle. Like he was hit with shrapnel. But I think someone said earlier that the man was okay? Does anyone know?


The Runner in Orange is fine. From what I know he got a minor leg injury from the blast but was helped up and out. He was even interviewed in one of the channels.
 
2013-04-15 09:49:09 PM

Watching_Epoxy_Cure: So, ball bearings means it's probably some right wing terrorist group.

   Similar tactics, no connection. The huge amount of smoke generated from the explosions suggests black powder. Once again no immediate connection to anything other than not a very sophisticated weapon.
 
2013-04-15 09:49:41 PM

Mister Pleco: mccallcl: mesmer242: Anyone who's already at the blaming stage just sounds like this to me.

What if they're blaming the Department of Homeland Security and the BPD, who are supposed to protect us from terror plots, especially those that result in unattended packages set right on the ground in plain sight? What was Boston doing with all those DHS millions? Keeping us safe from Moonenites?

I don't know if the device was in plain sight.  Earlier, I posted that there are two mailboxes located in the general vicinity of the blast by the finish line:  http://goo.gl/maps/rRmj9


So, not just a false flag operation against our civil liberties, but also another attempt by the Republicans to undermine the post office, huh?
 
2013-04-15 09:49:45 PM

Bunny Deville: I looked at Picture # 8, because I have a minor in biology and I thought it would be interesting from a clinical perspective.

I can't figure out what all the bits are.

Oh my god. That poor man.


I've interned at the Coroner's office for a time so I must be desensitized to it.  I found the pic to be fascinating.  Having seen legs without bones was just as jarring.
 
2013-04-15 09:49:56 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Somacandra: hasty ambush: Did somebody say anti-government Domestic terrorist?

So you think Bill Ayers did this? You should probably let the FBI know if you have some information to that effect. That's what I would do.

The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians is an anti-government American.

 
2013-04-15 09:50:14 PM

what_now: Cambridge police have learned of a possible bomb on the O'Brien bridge which is the Museum of Science...and my office.


Umm... The museum (I've been there) and your office (I've probably not been there) aren't on the bridge. Stay away from the windows and don't soil your panties. I repeat, the museum is NOT the bridge. I'm not even remotely sure how you came to that conclusion honestly.
 
2013-04-15 09:50:21 PM
I'm surprised this doesn't happen more. Even with the restrictions in place, it's still relatively easy to find or make explosives. There's a never ending supply of nut jobs and an infinite supply of targets with absolutely no security measures in place, or even possible.
 
2013-04-15 09:51:22 PM

Popcorn Johnny: I'm surprised this doesn't happen more. Even with the restrictions in place, it's still relatively easy to find or make explosives. There's a never ending supply of nut jobs and an infinite supply of targets with absolutely no security measures in place, or even possible.


So more patriot acts are needed?
 
2013-04-15 09:52:02 PM

OgreMagi: cloakandbadger: Dollars to donuts we're dealing with either 1) foreign Muslim nutball 2) domestic Muslim nutball 3) domestic Right-wing nutball or 4) domestic dress up like Garfield and claim obedience to the fish-people nutball.

Basically the same statements were made here on fark after the Rep. Gabrielle Giffords shooting.  Do you happen to remember the shooters political affiliation or do I need to remind you?


I'm pretty sure his affiliation matched more closely to 4) than anything a normal person could recognize.
 
2013-04-15 09:52:03 PM
Corn_Fed: It's not a true tragedy until Pat Robertson blames it all on the gays.

MrHappyRotter: I'm fairly sure Westboro has already said this is punishment for Mass. allowing gay marriage, so close enough.


It occurs to me that after Fred Phelps dies, his grave (and probably those of other WBC principals) will likely become giant urinals.
 
2013-04-15 09:52:03 PM

Mojongo: Watching_Epoxy_Cure: So, ball bearings means it's probably some right wing terrorist group.
   Similar tactics, no connection. The huge amount of smoke generated from the explosions suggests black powder. Once again no immediate connection to anything other than not a very sophisticated weapon.


Currently the bombs don't match any sort of MO. When I heard that the police found five more potential bombs, I immediately jumped to AQ because if they were to ever do something, they'd make it as big as possible. But the report so far may not be true so I don't know who may have done it.
 
2013-04-15 09:52:06 PM

serial_crusher: Mister Pleco: mccallcl: mesmer242: Anyone who's already at the blaming stage just sounds like this to me.

What if they're blaming the Department of Homeland Security and the BPD, who are supposed to protect us from terror plots, especially those that result in unattended packages set right on the ground in plain sight? What was Boston doing with all those DHS millions? Keeping us safe from Moonenites?

I don't know if the device was in plain sight.  Earlier, I posted that there are two mailboxes located in the general vicinity of the blast by the finish line:  http://goo.gl/maps/rRmj9

So, not just a false flag operation against our civil liberties, but also another attempt by the Republicans to undermine the post office, huh?


Probably full of people's tax returns too then, those bastards.
 
2013-04-15 09:52:07 PM
Don't Claymore mines use ball-bearings?

And haven't they said that many of the injured were dealing with leg injuries?

Could the bombs have been military-grade claymore mines?
 
2013-04-15 09:52:13 PM
If it was a "terrorist" attack, don't terrorists usually have a list of demands or at least a statement to go along with the attack? Maybe it was just some nutjob with a homemade bomb. They're probably not hard to make, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often.
 
2013-04-15 09:52:14 PM
"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering"

Come on Farkers, we need to chill out for a second and take a breath, everyone sounds like they are going to kill each other over every post
 
2013-04-15 09:52:37 PM
Bonanza Jellybean: "Free plot point: The RFID chips attached to runners' shoes were used to trigger the bomb(s)."

While powered by the magnetic field of the reader, an RFID tag can be read from *maybe* a couple of meters.
The bomb would have to be essentially laying *on* the mats to have a *chance* of being triggered directly by a tag. And even then, the device could be foiled by something as simple as the particular tag being used for the trigger, crossing the mat slightly-too-far-away.

That said, you just need to carry the thought through: the RFID chips are read and processed by the race commission to produce times and send alerts to fans/friends/family.  So keep the bog standard cell-phone detonator, but just make it a phone that was subscribed to receive SMS race updates.  This is still advantageous to the bomber, as they don't have to place the call that triggers the devices themselves, robbing investigators of yet-another clue.
 
2013-04-15 09:52:38 PM
kinda thought he "hit the deck" after the explosion, too You can see that the two girls on the sidelines, closer to the blast, with the yellow raincoats on are also started, but the aren't knocked off their feet. My husband, however, says look at the man's knees when he goes down, they look like they buckle. Like he was hit with shrapnel. But I think someone said earlier that the man was okay? Does anyone know?
g

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78-year-old Bill Iffrig. He's okay.
He went down from a combination of the concussion of the blast and a small piece of shrapnel cut his leg.
He stated the officials you see in the picture helped him back up, assisted him in crossing the finish line, then found him a wheelchair to get help for his leg, which was mostly just scraped up.
 
2013-04-15 09:53:21 PM

WizardofToast: Fiction Fan: Have the assholes at Westboro Church released a statement yet?

It'd be global news if a tragedy happens and they only said "The gays had nothing to do with this one. It was just some evil bastard."


Dude, I like the way you think and unfortunately it's all to true.
 
2013-04-15 09:53:58 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: hasty ambush: Did somebody say anti-government Domestic terrorist?

[jewsforsarah.com image 325x257]
"I don't regret setting bombs" and "I feel we didn't do enough." Bill Ayers, New York Times, Sept. 11, 2001

wow.
took a long time for someone to bring that up.
bravo


Wow, totally not an alt, you're insightful and funny.

I know, person who clearly isn't me posting under a different username.
 
2013-04-15 09:54:03 PM

Mugato: If it was a "terrorist" attack, don't terrorists usually have a list of demands or at least a statement to go along with the attack? Maybe it was just some nutjob with a homemade bomb. They're probably not hard to make, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often.


I can remember back in the olden days when, after an attack somewhere in the world, different terrorist groups would get in line to compete for taking credit for something like this.
 
2013-04-15 09:54:31 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians.


I need a source if this is true.
 
2013-04-15 09:54:44 PM
So, do we know who the asshole conspiracy theorist guy who asked the Governor if this was another staged attack in order for Homeland Security to "take er guns" was? I'd LOVE a name.
 
2013-04-15 09:54:48 PM
Good news, it can be confirmed that Paul Ryan was not injured as he had finished a good 90 minutes before the explosion.
thecount.com

"Hold on...OK, I'll take questions now."
 
2013-04-15 09:54:59 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: So more patriot acts are needed?


Would be a good start.
 
2013-04-15 09:55:04 PM

Mugato: If it was a "terrorist" attack, don't terrorists usually have a list of demands or at least a statement to go along with the attack? Maybe it was just some nutjob with a homemade bomb. They're probably not hard to make, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often.


I'm doubting this attack is from an official member of an organization. It could be done by a fan heavily inspired by them (whether it be Al Qaeda or some anti-government group) or a nutcase. The Aurora shooter basically went into the Dark Knight Rises midnight premier because he knew the place would be crowded since it was a highly anticipated blockbuster and he was just nuts.
 
2013-04-15 09:55:29 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: tenpoundsofcheese: Somacandra: hasty ambush: Did somebody say anti-government Domestic terrorist?

So you think Bill Ayers did this? You should probably let the FBI know if you have some information to that effect. That's what I would do.

The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians is an anti-government American.



Yeah, because if there is ONE THING that represents the abusive power of American Government, it's the Boston Marathon.


/Baked bean DERP
 
2013-04-15 09:55:31 PM

Somacandra: Your Average Witty Fark User: I can't believe the number of people commenting on places like CNN blaming this on Obama.

I don't see even the hypothetical connection. Are people actually suggesting it was some kind of drone strike from the White House on the Boston Marathon?


I've seen "It's Obama's fault because he didn't stop it", "It's Obama's fault because he golfed on Saturday", "It's Obama's fault because he planned this to happen", "Radical Islam did it, so Obama", "Democrats are behind this to increase the TSA so Obama", "Socialism, so Obama", "Obama lied about Beghazi, he's lying about this", "If Obama had just banned bombs like he wants to ban guns...", etc, etc, etc...

It makes me farking sick. CNN comments look like Fox News. It sickens me to think half of this country has an IQ of 3. Combined.
 
2013-04-15 09:55:42 PM
Tonight at MIT:
pbs.twimg.com
 
2013-04-15 09:55:52 PM

cretinbob: Tak the Hideous New Girl: I saw his Youtube interview. I hope Mr. Arrendondo gets some help and I really hope that the guy in picture #8 lives.

The more pictures I see of #8, and the fact that the hospitals I guess are extremely close, the more optimistic I am.
Yes, he's a bit pale which is to be expected from a hemorrhage of that magnitude, but he is conscious. That goes a long way.

Fiction Fan: Have the assholes at Westboro Church released a statement yet?

Of course they have


More proof that there is no god. If I was the big man and someone who claimed to follow my words was doing this, I would descend from the heavens and make a very public example of him with all of my divine powers on display.
 
2013-04-15 09:56:06 PM
Wow, I never knew that Boston Baked Beings could stop the runs so quickly.
 
2013-04-15 09:56:24 PM

Infernalist: Don't Claymore mines use ball-bearings?

And haven't they said that many of the injured were dealing with leg injuries?

Could the bombs have been military-grade claymore mines?


my husband said the exact same thing. But where does someone get Claymore mines?
 
2013-04-15 09:56:33 PM

raerae1980: Having seen legs without bones was just as jarring.


Out of morbid curiosity, how does one get to that state? (or are you talking non-functional bones, as in a broken leg?)

UnspokenVoice: what_now: Cambridge police have learned of a possible bomb on the O'Brien bridge which is the Museum of Science...and my office.

Umm... The museum (I've been there) and your office (I've probably not been there) aren't on the bridge. Stay away from the windows and don't soil your panties. I repeat, the museum is NOT the bridge. I'm not even remotely sure how you came to that conclusion honestly.


From his P.O.V.: Still too f-ing close.
 
2013-04-15 09:57:02 PM
What if these bombs weren't home-made at all, but military equipment?
 
2013-04-15 09:57:08 PM
My personal theory is it'll be some fat good 'ol boy with White Supremacist ties.

Because it's always attractive and successful Nigerians and liberals under 200lbs that win these things, and that's not fair to 'Real Americans'.
 
2013-04-15 09:57:16 PM

Infernalist: Don't Claymore mines use ball-bearings?

And haven't they said that many of the injured were dealing with leg injuries?

Could the bombs have been military-grade claymore mines?


Claymores use C4 which does not product the large clouds of smoke we saw.
 
2013-04-15 09:57:18 PM
outside of the shining path are there any left-wing terrorist groups still active? FARC seems to have turned more to drug running than actual liberation of the peasantry so....I dunno?
 
2013-04-15 09:57:38 PM

theknuckler_33: Vacation Bible School: T.rex: That #8 pic... the dude in the cowboy hat is holding the guy's femoral artery, keeping him from bleeding out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWHHWB3Jr60

Quick street interview with cowboy hat guy.

farkin' A man, that dude is trembling.

/powerful stuff


FTFA (Comments section):
For anyone not aware, this man is Carlos Arredondo, you can look him up on wikipedia. One of his sons, Marine Lance Corporal Alexander Arrendondo, was killed serving in Iraq in 2004. His only surviving son, Brian Arredondo, took his life in 2011. The two pins you see on his sweater are pictures of his sons.
And not only did he have to bear witness to yet another tragedy, but he saved a man's life. He is an amazingly brave man.


Jesus Christ.
 
2013-04-15 09:57:51 PM

ringersol: That said, you just need to carry the thought through: the RFID chips are read and processed by the race commission to produce times and send alerts to fans/friends/family.


They don't use them anymore. The tags are built into your bibs.
 
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