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2013-04-15 09:34:03 PM

badhatharry: sporkme: Some loon at the latest press conference got the first question.

"Blah derpity blah ....is this another false flag operation to take away our freedom and have homeland security sticking their hands down our pants in the street!?"

Stern look.. "No."

/next

Maybe a stupid question to ask but that is exactly what is going to happen.


Yeah. Stupid question because the "Homeland Security" part of the answer is OBVIOUS.
 
2013-04-15 09:34:15 PM
Ugh. I went and looked at picture 8. That poor guy's leg - what's left of it - is meat.

I wish I hadn't... but all the kudos for Mr. Arredondo.
 
2013-04-15 09:34:36 PM
Personally, the information we've got so far leads me to the opinion that this was probably a domestic nutter.  The lack of organization (judging by the severe, but fairly small-scale results) and the rudimentary, kludged tech level of the bombs speak to one person acting alone.  That single actor, combined with the time and place chosen, say domestic rather than international, as the latter tend to have at least some manner of support structure.

That said, I do think this really was a lone individual.  I stress that in order to say that I believe this individual isn't representative of any group or political faction.  I'm as left-wing as they come, and I think this guy is most likely one of the True PatriotTM types, but that doesn't mean that his actions represent the people who share his ideology in any way, shape, or form.  We could probably have a discussion about cultures of fear, oppression, and anger in groups like that, and the effect mentalities like that have on people, but I do not, and I believe we should not, blame a group or faction for the actions of one lone nut.  To do so would be as fallacious as blaming all Christians, or even all evangelical Southern Baptists, for the actions of WBC.  Sharing an ideology is NOT the same as condoning actions, and we should all take care not to make that mistake, no matter how this plays out.

/climbs off soapbox
//drops mike
///gets ass beat by tech guy for dropping mike
 
2013-04-15 09:34:37 PM

Giltric: super_grass: LOL, people decided to loot the merchandise after the bomb blasts.

What a bunch of cockroaches.

Some of the NYPD/NYFD/EMS/PAPD and other personnel were looting Rolexes and whatnot from some of the boutiques below WTC in between shifts of digging out the remians of victims.


I hope they did seeing as they got completely screwed over on the healthcare front.
 
2013-04-15 09:34:39 PM
I saw picture 8, and the associated video.  I've seen worse.

I have a cousin that lives a couple blocks over, and two that both work at Mass General.  They've checked in, so I know they're physically ok, but I'm still worried about the two at the hospital.  I wish I could trade places with them so they didn't have to see this.
 
2013-04-15 09:34:50 PM

bionicjoe: I don't care about conspiracy theories, but what exactly is meant by 'false flag'? 
Is this a holdover from the NFL replacement refs?

Really. No idea. 
I used to listen to George Noory a bunch when I was on third shift and had hours & hours alone. LOL-factory usually. Alex Jones is a twit.


Attacking your own people while disguised as an operative of whoever it is you want an excuse to attack, basically.
 
2013-04-15 09:34:59 PM

Corn_Fed: It's not a true tragedy until Pat Robertson blames it all on the gays.


Jesus, please call that dumbass Pat Robertson home.
 
2013-04-15 09:35:25 PM

LessO2: vermicious k'nid: Krustofsky: WizardofToast: farkingismybusiness: Here is another angle of the Picture #8 guy. NSFW GORE The Cowboy is squeezing his artery.

"The man in the cowboy hat is Carlos Arredondo. He is an immigrant citizen of the U.S. who lost his son in Iraq and is now a peace activist and speaker. When the explosions happened, you can see that he did not hesitate to run towards the chaos and help, obviously trying to get this poor man out of there and to hold a tourniquet on one of his severed legs. Later, he was being interviewed, visibly shaking from shock and holding an American flag, soaked in the blood of other people. Carlos Arredondo's selflessness and bravery should be known and applauded."

Carlos Arredondo
Carlos Arredondo
Carlos Arredondo

Let's try and remember Carlos Arredondo's  name instead of whatever shiatbucket(s) did this.

In case you haven't noticed, they haven't caught the guy yet.

Get over yourself.


What the fark?  Didn't see you out there holding a dudes artery together so he didn't die.  Is your username a reflection of what happened when you were being born?
 
2013-04-15 09:35:37 PM

PumpkinCake: IlGreven: Also, if you're gonna give to the Red Cross, give a little bit more to Joe Andruzzi's foundation.  After how he handled the aftermath, his charity deserves a little attention, too.

This is a really dumb question, but I'm out in CA.  Would donating blood help all the way over here?

/O- and I know where the donation clinic is in town already, just a question of curiosity.


Do it. Donating blood always helps someone.
 
2013-04-15 09:35:41 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: I can't believe the number of people commenting on places like CNN blaming this on Obama.


I don't see even the hypothetical connection. Are people actually suggesting it was some kind of drone strike from the White House on the Boston Marathon?
 
2013-04-15 09:36:19 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Gov. Patrick shuts down the false flag question. Link


Exactly the response I was looking for.  Good man.
 
2013-04-15 09:36:46 PM

gadian: LessO2: Christ, if this picture is real, it's heartbreaking.

It certainly looks like an eight year-old.

Pic is SFW, just heartbreaking.

That's no 8 yr old, dude.


look closer.. it's the 'person' the dude is hovering over.
 
2013-04-15 09:36:51 PM

Samwise Gamgee: Begoggle: locustfajita: religion of peace?

There aren't any.

At least the buddhists typically only immolate themselves.


The Muslim population of Myanmar would disagree
 
2013-04-15 09:36:58 PM

Amos Quito: ScaryBottles: Amos Quito: ScaryBottles: Amos Quito: ScaryBottles: Amos Quito: Deducing who the culprits might be in such a situation:

1. TERRORISTS: Look at those who are "most likely" to have reason to commit such an act out of hatred.

2. FALSE FLAG: Look at the ENEMIES of category 1, as they might benefit from creating enemies of their enemies.


In other words, you ask the simple question: WHO BENEFITS?

3. CRAZIES: Consider that it MAY have been committed by one or more lunatics with NO apparent motive other than death and destruction.

Do you really believe that?


What part do you question?

The second and third


For the second, see "False-Flag". Acts committed by one party with the specific intent of having a non-involved third party take the blame, the goal being to give the actual culprit political advantages. In such attacks evidence is often planted implicating the third party. The Reichstag Fire of 1933 Germany is a well known example of a suspected "false-flag" attack.

As to CRAZIES, think Adam Lanza and "Sideshow Bob". These had no clear political motives or "statements" to make, yet they created death and destruction - for no apparent reason.

Need I say more?

Well great news everyone Amos here has it all figured out! No man really thats brilliant I guess we won't need to fill up the whole blackboard after all.


I'm sorry.

Who did you have your heart set on blaming?

Koreans?

Iranians?

Mooselimbs?

Palestinians?

You go ahead and blame whoever makes you feel better. Mmmkay?


I'm not blaming anyone I have no idea who did you're the one jumping to conclusions.
 
2013-04-15 09:37:13 PM

hasty ambush: Did somebody say anti-government Domestic terrorist?

[jewsforsarah.com image 325x257]
"I don't regret setting bombs" and "I feel we didn't do enough." Bill Ayers, New York Times, Sept. 11, 2001


You're just precious.
 
2013-04-15 09:37:24 PM
FOX News had Mark Fuhrman on to commentate.

The very same Mark Fuhrman whose testimony in the OJ trail was rejected because he kept using the N-word.

Not even being subtle here.
 
2013-04-15 09:37:30 PM

cretinbob: p4p3rm4t3: Any live feeds left?

Here is Brigham and Womens Hospital. SWAT and ATF are now guarding the hospital.

Why is purely speculation, and it's Foxnews, but it's a local affiliate


Maybe they're put in place in response to the initial rumors that there was a suspect at the hospital, in case people try to go all vigilante and storm the place? Jest speculatin'.
 
2013-04-15 09:37:55 PM

cretinbob: Amos Quito: derp


so where were you today?



I confiscated your guns.
 
2013-04-15 09:38:31 PM

WizardofToast: FOX News had Mark Fuhrman on to commentate.

The very same Mark Fuhrman whose testimony in the OJ trail was rejected because he kept using the N-word.

Not even being subtle here.


Oliver North is next.
 
2013-04-15 09:38:32 PM
You can check my backpack when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.
 
2013-04-15 09:38:48 PM

Somacandra: Samwise Gamgee: Begoggle: locustfajita: religion of peace?

There aren't any.

At least the buddhists typically only immolate themselves.

[i.imgur.com image 425x643]

That's a big negatory on that. Common myth.


BIG negatory on that one...
 
2013-04-15 09:38:52 PM

OgreMagi: All_Farked_Up: Corn_Fed: It's not a true tragedy until Pat Robertson blames it all on the gays

Fred Phelps beat him to it

Proof there is not god.  There hasn't been a bolt of lightening striking Phelps followed by a booming voice saying, "I said STFU!"


Seeing the wicked struck down with a bolt of righteous retribution would take "faith" out of the equation.

But allowing the striking down of random people in an act of senseless violence?  That'll keep 'em guessing!
 
2013-04-15 09:38:56 PM
Hannity has Mark Furman giving analysis right now. The derp Olympics is on like Donkey Kong.
 
2013-04-15 09:38:57 PM

Amos Quito: Dusk-You-n-Me: Gov. Patrick shuts down the false flag question. Link

Couldn't understand the question asked. What was it?


I'm paraphrasing a little, but the basic gist was "flase flag herp der? Derp herp arp darp civil liberties? Whargarbl herpledy doo?"
 
2013-04-15 09:39:06 PM

deffuse: LessO2: vermicious k'nid: Krustofsky: WizardofToast: farkingismybusiness: Here is another angle of the Picture #8 guy. NSFW GORE The Cowboy is squeezing his artery.

"The man in the cowboy hat is Carlos Arredondo. He is an immigrant citizen of the U.S. who lost his son in Iraq and is now a peace activist and speaker. When the explosions happened, you can see that he did not hesitate to run towards the chaos and help, obviously trying to get this poor man out of there and to hold a tourniquet on one of his severed legs. Later, he was being interviewed, visibly shaking from shock and holding an American flag, soaked in the blood of other people. Carlos Arredondo's selflessness and bravery should be known and applauded."

Carlos Arredondo
Carlos Arredondo
Carlos Arredondo

Let's try and remember Carlos Arredondo's  name instead of whatever shiatbucket(s) did this.

In case you haven't noticed, they haven't caught the guy yet.

Get over yourself.

What the fark?  Didn't see you out there holding a dudes artery together so he didn't die.  Is your username a reflection of what happened when you were being born?


I made a mistake in reading what the guy said.   My apologies.  I agree with him.
 
2013-04-15 09:39:14 PM

bionicjoe: I don't care about conspiracy theories, but what exactly is meant by 'false flag'? 
Is this a holdover from the NFL replacement refs?

Really. No idea. 
I used to listen to George Noory a bunch when I was on third shift and had hours & hours alone. LOL-factory usually. Alex Jones is a twit.


To use an attack to frame your enemy.  If nobody takes credit or a dead martyr isn't found, it is probably a false flag.
 
2013-04-15 09:39:20 PM

hasty ambush: Did somebody say anti-government Domestic terrorist?


So you think Bill Ayers did this? You should probably let the FBI know if you have some information to that effect. That's what I would do.
 
2013-04-15 09:39:24 PM

that was my nickname in highschool: netringer: In the first video of the explosion, you see a runner going down and rolling on his back.  He was hit by something.


I watched that a couple times and thought there was just as good a chance he rolled his ankle or twisted his knee in distraction.  Or maybe just fell from freight.


How much tonnage do you think he was carrying?
 
2013-04-15 09:39:48 PM

cretinbob: farkingismybusiness: "The man in the cowboy hat is Carlos Arredondo. He is an immigrant citizen of the U.S. who lost his son in Iraq and is now a peace activist and speaker. When the explosions happened, you can see that he did not hesitate to run towards the chaos and help, obviously trying to get this poor man out of there and to hold a tourniquet on one of his severed legs. Later, he was being interviewed, visibly shaking from shock and holding an American flag, soaked in the blood of other people. Carlos Arredondo's selflessness and bravery should be known and applauded."

qft


I saw his Youtube interview. I hope Mr. Arrendondo gets some help and I really hope that the guy in picture #8 lives.
 
2013-04-15 09:39:58 PM

namegoeshere: mudpants: namegoeshere: mudpants: What picture #8 ?

The one that's linked about a hundred times above. Warning: it does not get any more NSFL than that.

I haven't read the entire 1103 post thread just yet ...


Thanks I needed to see that and it was horrific. Just glad I'm not the guy in picture #2 in the MM suit giving the thumbs up.

Fine. Here. Did I mention it's NSFL? Because it is. Very much so.

 
2013-04-15 09:40:00 PM
Have the assholes at Westboro Church released a statement yet?
 
2013-04-15 09:40:07 PM
Reporters saying, "DO NOT COME OUT".

I'm ga---ooops.
 
2013-04-15 09:40:14 PM

WizardofToast: FOX News had Mark Fuhrman on to commentate.

The very same Mark Fuhrman whose testimony in the OJ trail was rejected because he kept using the N-word.

Not even being subtle here.


It's a shame what they did to Furmham. The dude has a brilliant legal mind.
 
2013-04-15 09:40:15 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: I can't believe the number of people commenting on places like CNN blaming this on Obama.

I want to personally slap the shiat out of these people. Each and every one of them.

/positive thoughts for the survivors and their families, condolences for the deceased and their families


Ever since fox news tired of having to deal with their own derp and shut off commenting on their site, the derp has moved to cnn and yahoo news.
 
2013-04-15 09:40:38 PM

that was my nickname in highschool: I watched that a couple times and thought there was just as good a chance he rolled his ankle or twisted his knee in distraction. Or maybe just fell from freight.



reverberated.files.wordpress.com

;)  with his age I was wondering if he were a veteran and that was just a reflex to get down.
 
2013-04-15 09:40:38 PM

hasty ambush: Did somebody say anti-government Domestic terrorist?

[jewsforsarah.com image 325x257]
"I don't regret setting bombs" and "I feel we didn't do enough." Bill Ayers, New York Times, Sept. 11, 2001


wow.
took a long time for someone to bring that up.
bravo
 
2013-04-15 09:40:50 PM

Fiction Fan: Have the assholes at Westboro Church released a statement yet?


Yes.  The blame for this falls upon the shoulders and loins of the gays.
 
2013-04-15 09:40:59 PM

MustangFive: Here's my take on the likely bombing suspect(s):

FACTS:


Then again it could be as simple CROWD + BOMB = IDIOTIC PURPOSE
 
2013-04-15 09:41:05 PM

that bosnian sniper: hardinparamedic: so you're insinuating a US soldier did this?

That's what you're saying here?

Wade Michael Page, Nidal Hasan, Jim David Adkisson, Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and Michael Fortier. Six names, right off the top of my head, and I know if I went to my bookshelf I could probably double or triple that list with less time and effort than it took me to write  thispost.  What do all six of those people have in common?


That Whitman guy, too (the infamous texas bell tower sniper). He did have a tumor pressing on his brain, which has been speculated to be the cause of the crazy, but he was a Marine sniper and all.
 
2013-04-15 09:41:31 PM

jaytkay: PumpkinCake: IlGreven: Also, if you're gonna give to the Red Cross, give a little bit more to Joe Andruzzi's foundation.  After how he handled the aftermath, his charity deserves a little attention, too.

This is a really dumb question, but I'm out in CA.  Would donating blood help all the way over here?

/O- and I know where the donation clinic is in town already, just a question of curiosity.

Do it. Donating blood always helps someone.


It helped me. I needed 8 or so when I was younger. I then married a man who is also O-, and we have a bunch of O- babies in our house. We're donating our whole lives to help people.

I was just curious if it would help the people in Boston. I remember after 9-11 we got turned away by some snotty people at the Red Cross when we tried to donate, and maybe I should just let that go.
 
2013-04-15 09:41:56 PM

Fiction Fan: Have the assholes at Westboro Church released a statement yet?


Oh yeah.  In times like this, it's almost a relief to know that there are still a few constants in the world.  "Fred Phelps is going to act like a complete prick" is one of those constants.
 
2013-04-15 09:41:57 PM

Fiction Fan: Have the assholes at Westboro Church released a statement yet?


Someone had a picture of some tweets they made, you can probably check twitter and find them
 
2013-04-15 09:42:05 PM

Fiction Fan: Have the assholes at Westboro Church released a statement yet?


The derp is alive on their Twitter feed.
 
2013-04-15 09:42:37 PM

Fiction Fan: Have the assholes at Westboro Church released a statement yet?


Yeah, their standard derp.
 
2013-04-15 09:42:48 PM

OgreMagi: cloakandbadger: Dollars to donuts we're dealing with either 1) foreign Muslim nutball 2) domestic Muslim nutball 3) domestic Right-wing nutball or 4) domestic dress up like Garfield and claim obedience to the fish-people nutball.

Basically the same statements were made here on fark after the Rep. Gabrielle Giffords shooting.  Do you happen to remember the shooters political affiliation or do I need to remind you?


Fish people

/cthulu f'tawgn
 
2013-04-15 09:42:57 PM

RatMaster999: that was my nickname in highschool: netringer: In the first video of the explosion, you see a runner going down and rolling on his back.  He was hit by something.


I watched that a couple times and thought there was just as good a chance he rolled his ankle or twisted his knee in distraction.  Or maybe just fell from freight.

How much tonnage do you think he was carrying?


They do that in marathons? I never understood golf handicapping, either.
 
2013-04-15 09:43:05 PM
 In the first video of the explosion, you see a runner going down and rolling on his back. He was hit by something.


I watched that a couple times and thought there was just as good a chance he rolled his ankle or twisted his knee in distraction. Or maybe just fell from freight.


Actually he was hit by shrapnel in his leg.
He was just interviewed on CNN.
He's a 74-year-old professional runner, with 45 marathons in his past and this being his third Boston.
Race officials helped him up, carried him to the finish line to let him finish, then immediately insisted he get in a wheelchair and be taken for treatment at one of the triage tents.
 
2013-04-15 09:43:12 PM

Somacandra: hasty ambush: Did somebody say anti-government Domestic terrorist?

So you think Bill Ayers did this? You should probably let the FBI know if you have some information to that effect. That's what I would do.


The point is that whoever did this could eventually be a professor in the US and an advisor to future politicians.
 
2013-04-15 09:43:33 PM

born_yesterday: OgreMagi: All_Farked_Up: Corn_Fed: It's not a true tragedy until Pat Robertson blames it all on the gays

Fred Phelps beat him to it

Proof there is not god.  There hasn't been a bolt of lightening striking Phelps followed by a booming voice saying, "I said STFU!"

Seeing the wicked struck down with a bolt of righteous retribution would take "faith" out of the equation.

But allowing the striking down of random people in an act of senseless violence?  That'll keep 'em guessing!


It wouldn't take a righteous lightening bolt.  How about a righteous patch of ice in just the right spot in the curve of the road next to a cliff?
 
2013-04-15 09:43:43 PM

Fiction Fan: Have the assholes at Westboro Church released a statement yet?


It'd be global news if a tragedy happens and they only said "The gays had nothing to do with this one. It was just some evil bastard."
 
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