Omahawg: WizardofToast: netweavr: CNN is reporting ball bearings were used as shrapnel.Are ball bearings an easy trick for bombs or is it more towards the professional side? I'm dumb with weapons.I always thought nails were the preferred shrapnel for bombs such as this
The Incredible Sexual Egg: CNN is reporting the BPD put out a report telling people to be on the look out of a black guy with a backpack and an accent....or every cab driver in Boston
hardinparamedic: I didn't say who did it. I said the use of ball bearings is a step up from the typical idiot who downloads the anarchist cookbook.It indicates a fundamental knowledge of IED design.
mediablitz: Fox News coverage has been excellent all day. Then O'Reilly's show starts and I remember what complete shiat stains they have. Peter King is (of COURSE) the first guest, and he KNOWS it is those dirty Muslims and this is why we need to curtail freedom in the United States, but the stupid Liberals JUST WON'T LISTEN.farking worthless pigs.
that bosnian sniper: hardinparamedic: I didn't say who did it. I said the use of ball bearings is a step up from the typical idiot who downloads the anarchist cookbook.It indicates a fundamental knowledge of IED design.Yeah it's not as if we don't have an entire generation of Americans with a bone to pick, and firsthand knowledge of how IED's are made and used to maximum effect, now is it.
puffy999: ACunningPlan: I know nothing about how bombs work, so with that in mind: could the bombs have been made weak deliberately to minimize detection with ball-bearings to compensate damage-wise?I'm just speculating, but it seems that a bomb that would've had enough firepower to blow... "through" more stuff would not have been too terribly difficult to sneak by, if they made it this far.I'd imagine someone who knew more would have created much more damaging devices... not that these weren't damaging, but it seems that at least one blast was forced upward a bit instead of outward (say, inside of a garbage can or blocked by people/stuff), which may have saved some casualties.
Amos Quito: Deducing who the culprits might be in such a situation:1. TERRORISTS: Look at those who are "most likely" to have reason to commit such an act out of hatred.2. FALSE FLAG: Look at the ENEMIES of category 1, as they might benefit from creating enemies of their enemies.In other words, you ask the simple question: WHO BENEFITS?3. CRAZIES: Consider that it MAY have been committed by one or more lunatics with NO apparent motive other than death and destruction.
hardinparamedic: This. Ball bearings mean you were planning to murder people on a massive scale. It's not usually the work of some right winged paranoid idiot.
Mad Tea Party: hardinparamedic: This. Ball bearings mean you were planning to murder people on a massive scale. It's not usually the work of some right winged paranoid idiot.I think planting farking bombs at the Boston marathon should have been your first clue that this person/persons wanted to murder on a massive scale.
ScaryBottles: skullkrusher: Fark is reporting that the suspect is a Christian Dominionist Muslim Anti-Tax Basque Separatist OWS Ecoterrorist but there is no suspect in custody.Tell that to all the Jags insisting that they have Saudi national in custody.
hardinparamedic: that bosnian sniper: hardinparamedic: I didn't say who did it. I said the use of ball bearings is a step up from the typical idiot who downloads the anarchist cookbook.It indicates a fundamental knowledge of IED design.Yeah it's not as if we don't have an entire generation of Americans with a bone to pick, and firsthand knowledge of how IED's are made and used to maximum effect, now is it.so you're insinuating a US soldier did this?That's what you're saying here?
luxup: I keep thinking that the longer we go without anyone claiming responsibility the more likely it is that it's a home grown variety of nut.
hockeyfarker: what_now: They keep showing this video, and there's an old guy who's 10 feet from the finish and when the bomb hits, he simply collapses. I know it's not the worst thing that happened, but the idea of a guy of advanced years getting hit by shrapnel 10 feet from finishing a marathon... I don't even.I saw some aftermath pictures, that guy was okay. Well, he wasn't bleeding, eyes were open and alert, cops were helping him, anyways. No shrapnel. Probably couldn't hear shiat though.
Sultan Of Herf: Omahawg: WizardofToast: netweavr: CNN is reporting ball bearings were used as shrapnel.Are ball bearings an easy trick for bombs or is it more towards the professional side? I'm dumb with weapons.I always thought nails were the preferred shrapnel for bombs such as thisNails do nastier damage, but due to terrible ballistic shape, and low weight dont carry very far or carry much energy. The basically lacerate. Ball bearings have a fair ballistic shape, and good weight for their size, they fly farther and carry a lot of energy, they are basically bullets.
Mike Chewbacca: gadian: cretinbob: gadian: LessO2: Christ, if this picture is real, it's heartbreaking.It certainly looks like an eight year-old.Pic is SFW, just heartbreaking.That's no 8 yr old, dude.look underneath..........I did. Underneath does not appear to be an 8 yr old. The outfit / shoes are too big and ugly for an 8 yr old. More like some fastfood worker.It's not an 8-year-old, it's an adult woman missing the entirety of her right leg. She's still a live in that photo, so that's good. Someone else posted the pic and it got deleted because ew, gross. NSFW, obviously.
J. Frank Parnell: luxup: I keep thinking that the longer we go without anyone claiming responsibility the more likely it is that it's a home grown variety of nut.Bin Laden never took responsibility for 9/11 until a sketchy tape surfaced in '04, which some people doubt was really him.
chopit: If that guy is still alive it's a marvel of modern medicine.
MichiganFTL: vygramul: Silly Jesus: netweavr: CNN is reporting ball bearings were used as shrapnel.Limit ball bearing purchases to 7.Who the hell needs 30 ball bearings?early 20th century yacht engine makers.
Lars The Canadian Viking: vudukungfu: Silly Jesus: Who the hell needs 30 ball bearings?EXACTLY!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M18_Claymore_mineThat uses actual high explosives and non hardened steel balls, whereas this dumbass used hardened steel ball bearings which shatter and gun powder which is subsonic and produces more waste heat and lots of smoke."Kincheloe immediately suggested using softer 1/8-inch (3.2 mm) steel "gingle" balls, which were used in the foundry process. They did not spall from the shock of the explosive, but deformed into a useful aerodynamic shape similar to a .22 rimfire projectile. Using a homemade chronograph, the engineers clocked the balls at 3,775 feet (1,151 m) per second. The second change was to use a poured plastic matrix to briefly contain the blast from the explosive, so that more of the blast energy was converted into projectile velocity. After a number of experiments, the engineers settled on Devcon-S steel-filled epoxy to hold the balls in place. With this change, the velocity improved to 3,995 feet (1,218 m) per second."
fnordfocus: NeoCortex42: There's at least one guy that's been arrested nearby. No details yet, of course.http://twitter.com/Eric_Twardzik/status/323910549895262210/photo/1Does Boston PD normally carry hoods like that?Looks like they're getting ready to execute him.
chopit: Holy shiat. The al-jazeera stream just showed video of the guy from pic #8, at about the time the picture was taken. If that guy is still alive it's a marvel of modern medicine.
GoldSpider: ...and of course here come all the "thoughts and prayers" flooding Facebook from people who desperately want to feel like they've contributed something and were 'a part" of the event.
gblive: mainsail: Triumph: They allegedly had bomb-sniffing dogs at the finish line. Is that normal? o_O http://www.local15tv.com/mostpopular/story/UM-Coach-Bomb-Sniffing-D ogs -Were-at-Start-Finish/BrirjAzFPUKKN8z6eSDJEA.cspxThese days? Yup.It is interesting that they had several patrols of bomb snifing dogs at the Raleigh-Durham airport this Monday. I fly every week and this is the first time that I have seen this. Very unusual. I wonder if the U.S. government had intelligence that something was going to happen this week that led to elevated measures.
WhyteRaven74: Severed arteries contract and constrict, so you don't bleed out right away like you would with a cut artery. If he's alive it's because the arteries were severed so he didn't bleed out on the spot.
PunGent: Again, NO. You're cruising for an ignoring...today is NOT the day for this kind of apologist crap, frankly.621 people disagree with you.Permanently.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army_campa ig n_1969%E2%80%931997#Casualties
p4p3rm4t3: Any live feeds left?
what_now: A good friend of mine was standing at the blast site an hour before the explosion but left because she wanted a Bloody Mary.In conclusion, alcohol saves lives.
AlwaysRightBoy: I've had national guard, bomb sniffing dogs, full assualt weapons and radiation sniffers at Penn Station in NYC since 9/11.It's called my daily commute.
Mike Chewbacca: I think we need an "I SAW BOSTON'S PIC #8" badge.
Vacation Bible School: p4p3rm4t3: Any live feeds left?http://www.wbur.org/listen/live
what_now: A good friend of mine was standing at the blast site an hour before the explosion but left because she wanted a Bloody Mary.
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