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2013-04-15 05:59:59 PM
Menino: "There is no suspect in custody."
 
2013-04-15 06:00:07 PM

Gyrfalcon: zippolight2002: miss diminutive: netweavr: Looks like the area hit was reserved for survivors of Sandy Hook....

https://twitter.com/TimWilliamsCBS/status/323886061925314560

If that's true and they were deliberately targeted...

...I really don't want to finish that sentence.

Why plant 2 bombs then?  It's a VIP area, you know exactly where they're going to be.  Also, it hasn't been confirmed and probably bullshiat to begin with.


The second is to catch the first responders. Very common with anyone who wants to cause maximum destruction.


IDK about that, the second one was pretty far away from the first in the videos and went off almost ~15 seconds after the first one. A bomb that was meant for the first responders would have been more effective after about a minute and closer to the original. I think they may have been trying to blow up the whole spectator area at the finish and their bombs didn't all go off exactly as planned.
 
2013-04-15 06:01:15 PM

Lollipop165: I do want to say how proud I am of those brave men and women who rushed TOWARD the attack to help those in need. Heroes indeed.


and i do want to say you have no idea what you are talking about. if you had any military experience you would know that the first explosion is often just to get first responders and people like you to rush TOWARD the explosion!
 
2013-04-15 06:01:20 PM

Lord_Baull: HotIgneous Intruder: CptnSpldng: HotIgneous Intruder: Carth: Obama to address the nation at 6:10 pm edt.

Why?

Because he's expected to, not because HE needs to.

National tragedy, all of us are hurt, blah blah blahtey blah, quack-quack.
Sympathetic commentary at the first opportunity is not leadership.


And you'd probably be one of the first in line to gritch if he didn't appear on TV to offer his condolences.


I truly don't give a shiat what the president does or doesn't do.
He doesn't know anything and nothing he says will add to the collective understanding.
Local and national law enforcement are working together, all resources will be applied, blah, farking blah.
Heard it a million times before here in the Empire of the Naked Apes.
And this is Obama, whose favorite war crime is the use of drones to blow people up.
 
2013-04-15 06:01:24 PM
We need fines for false information given like the NY Post is giving out.
 
2013-04-15 06:01:44 PM

Endive Wombat: Communist_Manifesto: I'm honestly surprised things like this don't happen in the US more often. We are a very large nation with a ton of enemies both internal and external. Add in the fact that if you want to detonate a bomb somewhere there isn't a whole lot stopping you from acquiring the materials and doing it. Hopefully this is the typical american loner/psycho/mass-murderer and not a prequel to some sort of large sustained terror campaign funded/coordinated by some sort of radical group in our biggest cities.

You and me both.


First thing I said to my wife. Frankly, I'm shocked this isn't a weekly occurrence. Hell, it damn near was back in the early 1900's.
 
2013-04-15 06:01:49 PM

fredklein: kmmontandon: Uh, those are pretty standard these days

Perhaps. I've never heard of bomb sniffing dogs at the finish line of a marathon before- what are they looking for? Runners who just ran 26 miles with a pipebomb in their shorts?? And why the National Guard? Doesn't Posse Comitatus apply? (ie: can't use military for police work?)

On the other hand, if they KNEW there were going to be bombs near the finish line- that would explain the sniffer dogs, and the NG. Of course, if they KNEW, why didn't they do/say anything??

This is how conspiracy theories get started.


Have you tried research?  Been to other Marathons with similar attendance?  Have you done any actual looking for information that would indicate that, indeed, the presence of bomb-sniffing dogs would be atypical at this event?

Or is it just that nobody went out of their way over the last several years to put a full security briefing for any/all major events in front of you to make sure you were up to speed?

Are you getting what I'm saying here?  That just because something is not intuitively logical to you after pondering it for 30 seconds does not actually mean that it isn't both logical and common.  Because failing to grasp the difference between your own ignorance and actual knowledge is how we get things like misinformation and rumor.

That said - if you are in fact an expert on large event security arrangements, I would be happy to be proven wrong.  Otherwise, if you've never been to a marathon, and that's the basis for your 'never having heard of there being bomb-sniffing dogs' at one, well...
 
2013-04-15 06:01:58 PM
Boston Police commissioner press conference: People are being questioned but there is no suspect 'in custody'. He weaseled around whether they are guarding a specific person at mass general. Two confirmed explosions the fire at the library isn't confirmed as related. 15 block area closed off for 24 hours.
 
2013-04-15 06:02:26 PM

NeoCortex42: If it's a white guy, at least the discussion can be constrained to the individual/group and the actual incident. If it's a brown guy, we go even further into the Muslim=terrorist crap.



This is an interesting statement.
 
2013-04-15 06:02:28 PM

one-in-the-chamber: it's terrible, but how many mild mannered citizens got blowed up in Iraq last week?
welcome to the brave new world.
i'm lousy at this, how soon before it's o.k. to start crackin' wise?
no, not trolling, just don't give a sh*t.


How's middle schoo, edgy guy?
 
2013-04-15 06:02:35 PM
JFK Library no longer being assumed to be part of this incident.  Just an electrical fire.  Knee-jerk reporting! Yay!
 
2013-04-15 06:02:55 PM

VivianVivisect: katerbug72: VivianVivisect: What ever you do, don't search "#boston" in Instagram ***vomit***

OMG the guy missing most of his lower leg aside from the bone. Holy fark.

I told you. The wheel chair guy?

Everyone says that. *Shivers*


That poor man. Horrifying.
 
2013-04-15 06:02:59 PM

great_tigers: We need fines for false information given like the NY Post is giving out.


But you'd put Fox News out of business. Why do you hate Fair and Balanced?
 
2013-04-15 06:03:39 PM

one-in-the-chamber: Lollipop165: I do want to say how proud I am of those brave men and women who rushed TOWARD the attack to help those in need. Heroes indeed.

and i do want to say you have no idea what you are talking about. if you had any military experience you would know that the first explosion is often just to get first responders and people like you to rush TOWARD the explosion!


But wait, I thought the real heroes were the ones who got killed.
So confusing, this hero schtick...
 
2013-04-15 06:03:47 PM
NYTimes lifted their pay wall. Not sure if someone already said it in the other thread but if you're looking for news their is another source.
 
2013-04-15 06:03:50 PM
 
2013-04-15 06:03:58 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Gyrfalcon: miss diminutive: netweavr: Looks like the area hit was reserved for survivors of Sandy Hook....

https://twitter.com/TimWilliamsCBS/status/323886061925314560

If that's true and they were deliberately targeted...

...I really don't want to finish that sentence.

I hope to holy f*ck that it isn't true. Because if it is, it narrows the suspect list drastically and to a very ugly subsection of Americans.

Oh damn. That's one hell of coincidence. The optimist in me is hoping that whoever put the bomb did so without knowledge of who would be there - that they wanted to cause destruction rather than targeted assassination.

/Still sticking with my initial estimate - small group of crazies with amateur level of skill in explosions, most likely domestic


The worst part is that I completely believe that this could have been done by those sorts of people.

Goes with the relatively low to date death count to date, if they were amateur explosives.

Hopefully that isn't true.  It is surprising that so few are confirmed dead so far.
 
2013-04-15 06:04:27 PM

GoldSpider: Lord_Baull: Dunno, this was the first offense post I saw.

Keep reading.  People on both sides desperately want this to be a brickbat to be thrown at the other side.



Like this moran?

Launch Code: To deflect the reality of an actual coordinated terrorism attack against America. Obamorons should start blaming UTube videos. All hail dear leader.

 
2013-04-15 06:04:30 PM
re: security at races
even shamrock shuffle in chicago (which I went to) had police at multiple locations. It is something races do tend to pay for, for the security of the runners and all that. even pre 9-11 that's not really unexpected.
 
2013-04-15 06:04:31 PM

zippolight2002: JFK Library no longer being assumed to be part of this incident.  Just an electrical fire.  Knee-jerk reporting! Yay!


It wasn't just bad journalism, the police guy at Deval PAtrick's first pres conference called it an explosion and said they believed it was related.
 
2013-04-15 06:04:41 PM

Sid_6.7: ACunningPlan: Not true: the Harrods bomb, Enniskillen, the Corporation St. bomb in Manchester to name but a few. And not to mention all the trash cans which had to be removed from the streets of London because people kept planting bombs in them. But what they won't do is bite the hand that fed them; I'd be really surprised if this had anything to do with Irish terrorism.

And those were the exception rather than the rule.


Not if you lived in Belfast or Derry or other places they weren't.  Most importantly, those types of targets were also some of their biggest successes in terms of achieving their goal.
 
2013-04-15 06:05:21 PM
Didn't see this mentioned so far, but it looks like whoever did this kinda sucked at making bombs: People are saying they could smell gun powder, there was a lot of smoke, people not too far away seemed fine, and not much shockwaveish damage, so it looks like it was gunpowder based, probably a pipe bomb type thing which is going to be mostly shrapnel injuries. Different story if he had used proper high explosives.
 
2013-04-15 06:05:24 PM

Triumph: They allegedly had bomb-sniffing dogs at the finish line. Is that normal? o_O

 http://www.local15tv.com/mostpopular/story/UM-Coach-Bomb-Sniffing-D ogs -Were-at-Start-Finish/BrirjAzFPUKKN8z6eSDJEA.cspx


These days? Yup.
 
2013-04-15 06:05:28 PM

Lord_Baull: NeoCortex42: If it's a white guy, at least the discussion can be constrained to the individual/group and the actual incident. If it's a brown guy, we go even further into the Muslim=terrorist crap.


This is an interesting statement.


Imagine how much Fark will flip their shiat if the guilty party is a cop or ex-cop.  Or a hot teacher.  Or an HOA president.  Or an executive at EA.
 
2013-04-15 06:05:33 PM
BPD just reported a minute ago that "There is no suspect in custody." That's according to a post on the Boston Globe's live blog.
 
2013-04-15 06:05:45 PM

pute kisses like a man: Mikey1969: pute kisses like a man: and, it's more that a saudi who has shrapnel wounds is under guard at the hospital.  the news folk seemed to have decided he was a suspect.

Holy Jesus, that could jjust as easily be an innocent bystander under protection from misinformed jackasses blaming him for it. Yeah, the first few hours of a news event suck, because everyone is falling all over themselves to Scoop everyone else, and they don't care if the data is true or false. It shotgun style journalism...

it can be worse than that.  after the norway shootings, the norwegian police and media were making public press releases that the shooter was a white norwegian guy, not related to muslim terrorists, but it wasn't until a day later that the world media decided to drop the muslim terrorist angle.

i read an interesting article in the new yorker interviewing a norwegian journalist who was breaking the story.  he was trying to correct american and british news sources to say that they know who the suspect is, he's a white guy, and it's not a muslim thing. but no one seemed to listen until the next day -- the journalist's theory was that the muslim terrorist angle was getting more news, and it had created its own story.


A day or two after 9/11, a guy in Phoenix(Well, Mesa, actually) shot the owner of a convenience store because the guy was wearing a turban and he automatically blamed the dude for the Twin Towers. The poor dead guy wasn't even a Muslim, he was a Sikh. Nothing like a good dose of paranoia to get people riled up, right?
 
2013-04-15 06:05:48 PM

fredklein: kmmontandon: Uh, those are pretty standard these days

Perhaps. I've never heard of bomb sniffing dogs at the finish line of a marathon before- what are they looking for? Runners who just ran 26 miles with a pipebomb in their shorts?? And why the National Guard? Doesn't Posse Comitatus apply? (ie: can't use military for police work?)

On the other hand, if they KNEW there were going to be bombs near the finish line- that would explain the sniffer dogs, and the NG. Of course, if they KNEW, why didn't they do/say anything??

This is how conspiracy theories get started.


Fred, quit trying to stir people up. I've seen close to three dozen boston marathons, the national guard always helps with crowd control, and they always bring some bomb sniffing dogs.
 
2013-04-15 06:06:09 PM

Triumph: They allegedly had bomb-sniffing dogs at the finish line. Is that normal? o_O

 http://www.local15tv.com/mostpopular/story/UM-Coach-Bomb-Sniffing-D ogs -Were-at-Start-Finish/BrirjAzFPUKKN8z6eSDJEA.cspx


Yes, that is common at marathons in most large cities where police have the resources available. They normally sweep the area the day before then have the dogs there that day.
 
2013-04-15 06:06:10 PM
I'm going to go home, work on some homemade electronics while watching Archer and then drink myself to sleep.

When I wake up in the morning there will be some actual verifiable information available, and the news organizations will come to some sort of consensus about not showing picture 8.
 
2013-04-15 06:06:46 PM

zippolight2002: JFK Library no longer being assumed to be part of this incident.  Just an electrical fire.  Knee-jerk reporting! Yay!


You're right.  Everyone should go home and report the events in a month or two once everything is sorted out (rolls eyes).
 
2013-04-15 06:07:16 PM

Begoggle: Launch Code: To deflect the reality of an actual coordinated terrorism attack against America. Obamorons should start blaming UTube videos. All hail dear leader.

1/10
Not sure what you're even going for.


Nobody respects a good troll more than I do.  But honestly, how do you live with yourself?
 
2013-04-15 06:07:22 PM
The name of this thread is: "Boston Marathon bombing newslink thread - feel free post links to live news updates here."

Think maybe we could have just the newslinks on this thread, so we don't have to sift through all the the jokes, insults, and political whaaargarbl? Go be a dipshiat somewhere else.
 
2013-04-15 06:07:23 PM
Conjecture is useless at this point. Wait a day or two when things become clearer instead of wildly speculating.
 
2013-04-15 06:07:32 PM

Stoker: Now if I was in charge (President), I'd be looking for celebrations being held in other countries, you know, the American Flag burning types, and land a bomb right in the middle of them.

If they are celebrating, they are enemies, and quite possibly involved somehow.
That's what Ted Nugent would do.
-----

As much as I would like to do that, it would be irresponsible and wrong to retaliate like that.
But if we find out who... we need to retaliate really, really hard.


Yeah, because it MUST be foreigners, right? Never, ever would an American citizen set off a bomb in the US.
 
2013-04-15 06:07:33 PM
So, after 12 years of TSA and the expensive War Against (other people's) Terror, which the American public is getting tired of paying for and putting up with, there's another (supposed) terrorist attack. And a Saudi is being held? Why am I not surprised. I'm sure the reaction will be more military spending, more taking away our so-called rights, and military attacks against some country (that country being "not Saudi Arabia").
 
2013-04-15 06:07:54 PM

shower_in_my_socks: BPD just reported a minute ago that "There is no suspect in custody." That's according to a post on the Boston Globe's live blog.


...but then two minutes later there's a post saying that federal officials say the BPD is guarding a possible suspect. I guess "guarding a possible suspect" and "having a suspect in custody" aren't the same thing.
 
2013-04-15 06:08:13 PM

Begoggle: Lord_Baull: NeoCortex42: If it's a white guy, at least the discussion can be constrained to the individual/group and the actual incident. If it's a brown guy, we go even further into the Muslim=terrorist crap.


This is an interesting statement.

Imagine how much Fark will flip their shiat if the guilty party is a cop or ex-cop.  Or a hot teacher.  Or an HOA president.  Or an executive at EA.


from Florida. with a meth face.
 
2013-04-15 06:08:20 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Lord_Baull: HotIgneous Intruder: CptnSpldng: HotIgneous Intruder: Carth: Obama to address the nation at 6:10 pm edt.

Why?

Because he's expected to, not because HE needs to.

National tragedy, all of us are hurt, blah blah blahtey blah, quack-quack.
Sympathetic commentary at the first opportunity is not leadership.


And you'd probably be one of the first in line to gritch if he didn't appear on TV to offer his condolences.

I truly don't give a shiat what the president does or doesn't do.
He doesn't know anything and nothing he says will add to the collective understanding.
Local and national law enforcement are working together, all resources will be applied, blah, farking blah.
Heard it a million times before here in the Empire of the Naked Apes.
And this is Obama, whose favorite war crime is the use of drones to blow people up.



You can tell from your concern posts.
 
2013-04-15 06:08:27 PM
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Apparently there's some terribly gruesome videos from bystanders popping up on Youtube....

Yikes.
 
2013-04-15 06:09:38 PM
Flipping through the channels, I see NatGeo is showing a documentary on 9/11, SyFy is airing "LOTR: The Two Towers" and several other channels are airing news reports on the bombings.

Pass the tin foil.
 
2013-04-15 06:09:40 PM

Brick-House: Has the WH blamed Bush yet?


I see you are getting your free republic instant talking points in a timely fashion.
 
2013-04-15 06:09:43 PM

DrPainMD: So, after 12 years of TSA and the expensive War Against (other people's) Terror, which the American public is getting tired of paying for and putting up with, there's another (supposed) terrorist attack. And a Saudi is being held? Why am I not surprised. I'm sure the reaction will be more military spending, more taking away our so-called rights, and military attacks against some country (that country being "not Saudi Arabia").


The Mayor and Police Commissioner say there is NO SAUDI BEING HELD. Until there is official confirmation we don't know anything about who did this.
 
2013-04-15 06:09:52 PM
For all the Farkers who never leave their mother's basement:

Police dogs are common at events with thousands of spectators.The National Guard is often used to help with crowd control and traffic flow with events that occupy a large part of a major city (parades, marathons, protests, etc).

Just because you haven't seen a "bomb dog", or what you assume is a bomb dog, at a marathon before, doesn't mean the dog is part of a vast international governmental conspiracy.
 
2013-04-15 06:10:00 PM
Holy crap that's scary.
 
2013-04-15 06:10:31 PM

cfletch13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Apparently there's some terribly gruesome videos from bystanders popping up on Youtube....

Yikes.


Seriously? You thought a friggin' rickroll was a good idea here? Now? Are you stupid, or merely just an asshole?
 
2013-04-15 06:10:40 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Carth: Obama to address the nation at 6:10 pm edt.

Why?


Because if he doesn't the Right Wing Derposphere will assplode... Look at the biatching because his statement about Roger Ebert was issued than his statement about Margaret Thatcher.

Besides, he's the President, and people look to their leaders in moments of crisis. Are you REALLY this dense?
 
2013-04-15 06:10:48 PM

Triumph: They allegedly had bomb-sniffing dogs at the finish line. Is that normal? o_O

 http://www.local15tv.com/mostpopular/story/UM-Coach-Bomb-Sniffing-D ogs -Were-at-Start-Finish/BrirjAzFPUKKN8z6eSDJEA.cspx


Those dogs need to be fired immediately.
 
2013-04-15 06:10:58 PM

Begoggle: Lord_Baull: NeoCortex42: If it's a white guy, at least the discussion can be constrained to the individual/group and the actual incident. If it's a brown guy, we go even further into the Muslim=terrorist crap.


This is an interesting statement.

Imagine how much Fark will flip their shiat if the guilty party is a cop or ex-cop.  Or a hot teacher.  Or an HOA president.  Or an executive at EA.



Or a Dixie Chick.
 
2013-04-15 06:11:33 PM

JustFarkingGreat: Video from finish line of bomb going off -- caution, graphic


F*ck that hurt to watch.
 
2013-04-15 06:11:42 PM
President's speech: sending resources and offering compassion. "We don't have all the answers".
 
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