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(The Daily Caller)   Congressmen introduce legislation to repeal the USDA healthy meal requirements for school lunches, because requiring a kid to salute the flag or pray before a football game is one thing; but teaching them to eat right? Well mister, that's socialism   (dailycaller.com) divider line 106
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2013-04-15 03:44:32 PM

links136: I never understood why people would always be like, "money is getting tight these days" before the recession even started, yet would never question how that's possible being the economy and thus money has been growing for decades.


Because they don't have maps or such as.
 
2013-04-15 03:45:32 PM
So, putting a calorie cap on school lunches means that football players will go hungry because apparently, they never eat anything at home and refuse to eat healthier school lunches.

Anyone want to take a bet that this guy is also against reduced price lunches for poor students, who might actually NOT have anything else to eat at home?
 
2013-04-15 03:51:35 PM

what_now: GleeUnit: What else could they possibly do to them to make them any less healthy than they already are??  Have you SEEN a public school "lunch" lately?


School cafeteria food doesn't have to be terrible. In my town, we've decided that having healthy kids is worth higher taxes

This is the lunch menu for the Somerville MA high school this week:

http://www.somerville.k12.ma.us/education/page/download.php?fileinfo =Q XByaWxfMjAxM19MdW5jaF9TSFMucGRmOjo6L3d3dy9zY2hvb2xzL3NjL3JlbW90ZS9pbWF nZXMvZG9jbWdyLzIyNjdmaWxlMTI3MTMucGRm§iondetailid=18500

They also serve free breakfast every day to every student:a Wheat bagel with cream cheese, fruit, cereal, granola or corn muffins.
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That's great, but WTF is a "wheat bulkie roll"?
 
2013-04-15 03:51:43 PM
This is from the same party that wanted ketchup to qualify as a vegetable.

/nothing but a corporate shill
 
2013-04-15 03:59:44 PM

Dufus: I love the rules that our junior high (grades 6-8) works under

lunch with chicken tenders 3 tenders, a lettuce leaf, half pint of milk, one slice of bread, half a banana.

My son comes home so hungry that he hits the kitchen like a vacuum cleaner. The lunch ladies would like to feed them larger low cal meals, but aren't allowed to because of the law. Average numbers of obese kids is rising as a result. Oh, and they have banned several PE activities like football and soccer as being too dangerous so the exercise levels have decreased.


Your son coming home and raiding the fridge isn't Michelle Obama's fault; that's called being a teenaged boy.  Go yell at God for that.

And saying exercise levels have decreased is the exact opposite of the idiot in TFA, who claims that calorie restrictions are making the baseball players starve (because, naturally, baseball is the most important part of high school).
 
2013-04-15 04:02:50 PM
sing it with me?

Monday - Hot Dog
Tuesday - Taco
Wednesday - Hamburgers and Chocolate Milk
Thursday - Sloppy Joes and Burritos in a Bag
Friday was Pizza Day, the best day of the week
It always came with salad and a side of cold green beans
 
2013-04-15 04:12:21 PM

Petey4335: sing it with me?

Monday - Hot Dog
Tuesday - Taco
Wednesday - Hamburgers and Chocolate Milk
Thursday - Sloppy Joes and Burritos in a Bag
Friday was Pizza Day, the best day of the week
It always came with salad and a side of cold green beans


Just for that you can come to my pool party.
 
2013-04-15 04:17:31 PM
My cousin's school has been fighting the USDA restrictions as well. When the football coach has to cater in food for his players so they can make it through practice without keeling over you know you have a problem with portions being too small. The problem with the regulation isn't the fact that they're trying to encourage healthy choices, the problem is that they tried to apply a one-size fit's all solution. The portion sizes might be correct for your average couch potato who's only exercise is gym class and walking between classes, but it is woefully inadequate for a student athlete that easily burns 10,000 calories a day.
 
2013-04-15 04:21:44 PM
Aren't these the same people who are furiously adamant that you should only be allowed to buy 'healthy' food with food stamps?
 
2013-04-15 04:22:56 PM

MadCat: student athlete that easily burns 10,000 calories a day.


I don't think many are burning 10,000 calories. If some are, I really doubt they call it easy.
 
2013-04-15 04:22:58 PM
Sorry, this program is totally farked. Kids need to eat. If they're hungry, they aren't going to do well in school. This new program cuts the kids off, period, no questions asked, once they reach a certain calorie level. It's a dumb program. Want to make it healthier food? Fine. Want to help curb obesity be making exercise more mandatory? Fine. Want to make my kids sit in class all day thinking about how hungry they are because they(Both skinny kids) didn't get enough to eat at lunch? NOT fine.

And yet the vending machines are still there, what the fark is up with that crap? Cut them off from actual food, but let them toss money in a vending machine for overpriced high-sugar garbage?

I like how they make sure to blame Michelle Obama in this article, too... Always got to make sure to throw some blame. It's obviously the "nutritionists" politicians that put this garbage together who need to be held accountable.
 
2013-04-15 04:31:48 PM

Magorn: oh, and get your Vit D. levels checked. Unless you get outside a fair bit, (and don't slather on the SPF 50 everytime you do go out) as a Us adult you are very likely Vit D deficient. Vit D is HUGELY important to letting your body efficently use insulin, so when your levels are good you make a lot less insulin overall, lessening your chances of getting 'beetus making your weight stay more stable and a couple other good side effects as well


~*~TMYK~*~


Seriously, though, I did not know the Vitamin D thing.  I live in cloudy/rainy NW, so not a whole lot of sunlight touches my skin no matter how much time I spend outside.  Luckily I have been taking multivitamins for years, so maybe I unwittingly decreased my odds for teh beetus
 
2013-04-15 04:59:54 PM
Sticking It To The Libs is far more important than our children's health.
 
2013-04-15 05:06:35 PM
Students complained of being hungry and some pointed out that many of the healthy food options were simply ending up in trashcans.

Well, if they're throwing food away, obviously they aren't that hungry.
 
2013-04-15 05:38:13 PM
My wife is a teacher in a poor school in SC.  Nearly all her kids get free lunch.  I have visited her for lunch and what I see is 90% of what the kids get on their free lunch tray goes in to the garbage untouched.  Then they get cookies and milkshakes or sodas and chips.

Making schools put healthier food on the tray so kids can throw it in the trash makes no sense.
 
2013-04-15 05:40:09 PM

GleeUnit: What else could they possibly do to them to make them any less healthy than they already are??  Have you SEEN a public school "lunch" lately?


Yes, they are very healthy and tasty, I know the nice lady responsible for them. But then, I live in an area with high rates of education, so we typically try to take care of our students.

Our DMV is faster than MacDonald's too.
 
2013-04-15 05:40:28 PM

thurstonxhowell: MadCat: student athlete that easily burns 10,000 calories a day.

I don't think many are burning 10,000 calories. If some are, I really doubt they call it easy.


Yes. Also, if a kid needs to consume five times as many calories as a "typical" adult because of extraordinary physical exertion, it seems that perhaps that child's parents - and not the taxpayers - ought to be paying for it.

With respect to vitamin D supplements, they improved my quality of life dramatically. Best advice my doctor ever gave me.
 
2013-04-15 05:40:35 PM
For a bunch of people who hate taxes, they really love to waste mine.
 
2013-04-15 05:41:33 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: GleeUnit: What else could they possibly do to them to make them any less healthy than they already are??  Have you SEEN a public school "lunch" lately?

Yes, they are very healthy and tasty, I know the nice lady responsible for them. But then, I live in an area with high rates of education, so we typically try to take care of our students.

Our DMV is faster than MacDonald's too.


You live in Fairfax County?
 
2013-04-15 05:42:56 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: GleeUnit: What else could they possibly do to them to make them any less healthy than they already are??  Have you SEEN a public school "lunch" lately?

Yes, they are very healthy and tasty, I know the nice lady responsible for them. But then, I live in an area with high rates of education, so we typically try to take care of our students.

Our DMV is faster than MacDonald's too.


Yeah, I eat school lunches twice a year, on the days I volunteer to spend the day at school, and I find them iinfinitely superior to the crap they used to serve me 40 years ago.
 
2013-04-15 05:45:34 PM

pdee: My wife is a teacher in a poor school in SC.  Nearly all her kids get free lunch.  I have visited her for lunch and what I see is 90% of what the kids get on their free lunch tray goes in to the garbage untouched.  Then they get cookies and milkshakes or sodas and chips.

Making schools put healthier food on the tray so kids can throw it in the trash makes no sense.


What has your wife done to discourage such behavior?
 
2013-04-15 05:48:03 PM
From someone in an agriculture state, WE GROW TOO MUCH DAMN CORN
 
2013-04-15 05:59:07 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: pdee: My wife is a teacher in a poor school in SC.  Nearly all her kids get free lunch.  I have visited her for lunch and what I see is 90% of what the kids get on their free lunch tray goes in to the garbage untouched.  Then they get cookies and milkshakes or sodas and chips.

Making schools put healthier food on the tray so kids can throw it in the trash makes no sense.

What has your wife done to discourage such behavior?


Nothing.  If she makes some kid eat something that kid does not want the parents will come down like a shiat storm.  Then claim the kid got sick from it and sue the school and my wife is out of her job.  She is 50 with 25 years experience teaching so she has maxed out her pay.  The school would love to eliminate her position to save money and retirement.  The last time they tired parents showed up and demanded they not eliminate her classroom and relocate the kids to the the other side of the county.  She teaches learning disabled so its not part of the regular curriculum.

Making waves in not in her best interest and would accomplish nothing.  Teaching the kids to read however does.
 
2013-04-15 05:59:15 PM

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We ACTUALLY used to have Subway Sandwiches available for purchase. I think they were from some kind of "reject" bunch because, despite the fact that it said "Turkey" on the menu, they were basically mayonaisse sandwiches on sourdough bread with a bunch of shredded, pale lettuce and two THIN cut slices.

The pizza that tasted like it was made from industrial plastic was more appetizing (and likely healthier...)
 
2013-04-15 06:01:50 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x334]


Came for Lunch Lady Doris.
 
2013-04-15 06:15:32 PM

Empty Matchbook: Featured Farker: Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

We ACTUALLY used to have Subway Sandwiches available for purchase. I think they were from some kind of "reject" bunch because, despite the fact that it said "Turkey" on the menu, they were basically mayonaisse sandwiches on sourdough bread with a bunch of shredded, pale lettuce and two THIN cut slices.

The pizza that tasted like it was made from industrial plastic was more appetizing (and likely healthier...)


We used to get surplus McRibs.  Disgusting?  Yes, but it was a reprieve from Taco Boat Tuesday.
 
2013-04-15 06:20:05 PM
Public schools should serve healthy food.

There should be absolutely no debate on this.
 
2013-04-15 06:21:54 PM

Nadie_AZ: On the other hand, some kids don't get enough calories at home. How do you address that while addressing obesity?


Put the desserts at the top of climbing ropes.
 
2013-04-15 06:25:17 PM

pdee: Philip Francis Queeg: pdee: My wife is a teacher in a poor school in SC.  Nearly all her kids get free lunch.  I have visited her for lunch and what I see is 90% of what the kids get on their free lunch tray goes in to the garbage untouched.  Then they get cookies and milkshakes or sodas and chips.

Making schools put healthier food on the tray so kids can throw it in the trash makes no sense.

What has your wife done to discourage such behavior?

Nothing.  If she makes some kid eat something that kid does not want the parents will come down like a shiat storm.  Then claim the kid got sick from it and sue the school and my wife is out of her job.  She is 50 with 25 years experience teaching so she has maxed out her pay.  The school would love to eliminate her position to save money and retirement.  The last time they tired parents showed up and demanded they not eliminate her classroom and relocate the kids to the the other side of the county.  She teaches learning disabled so its not part of the regular curriculum.

Making waves in not in her best interest and would accomplish nothing.  Teaching the kids to read however does.


I guess you are right that we should all give up like she has and just shovel unhealthy crap to the kids. Best not to make waves. It's not like the health of the children is a concern.
 
2013-04-15 06:35:19 PM

Magorn: FWIW  one of the glories of eating low carb is that you NEVER feel hungry.   It's not just because you get to eat all the protien and fat you want, though that helps, but because it seems that a swing in blood sugar is the chemical signal for hunger, so when it stays steady state, even when low, you don;t get the hunger signals).


Your mileage may farking vary with that one.  That was actually the worst thing for me about a carb-free diet; no matter how much I ate I never felt full.  Also, my stomach always hurt like I had heartburn.  I added a small portion of whole grain to each meal and it made all the difference.
 
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2013-04-15 06:54:45 PM
I think there is a lot of truth in the vitamin D theory. I'm outside in the sun riding my bike 200+ miles a week soaking up the vitamin D while the wife sits inside and watches TV. She is borderline diabetic while I'm perfectly healthy, so it has to be the sunlight! ;)
 
2013-04-15 07:11:06 PM

Karac: Dufus: I love the rules that our junior high (grades 6-8) works under

lunch with chicken tenders 3 tenders, a lettuce leaf, half pint of milk, one slice of bread, half a banana.

My son comes home so hungry that he hits the kitchen like a vacuum cleaner. The lunch ladies would like to feed them larger low cal meals, but aren't allowed to because of the law. Average numbers of obese kids is rising as a result. Oh, and they have banned several PE activities like football and soccer as being too dangerous so the exercise levels have decreased.

Your son coming home and raiding the fridge isn't Michelle Obama's fault; that's called being a teenaged boy.  Go yell at God for that.

And saying exercise levels have decreased is the exact opposite of the idiot in TFA, who claims that calorie restrictions are making the baseball players starve (because, naturally, baseball is the most important part of high school).


That's just nonsense. Everyone knows football is the most important part of high school.
 
2013-04-15 07:12:03 PM
It seems like a solution could be to provide snacks or some kind of food to those students in extracurricular athletic activities. Paid in part by the parents of the students partipating.
 
2013-04-15 07:25:52 PM

RexTalionis: This is good advice. I am almost positive that I have a deficiency in Vitamin D because I am practically a vampire.


Me as well, but I do take a daily vitamin that alleges 200% of the D allowance. However, I've also heard that pill vitamins are no substitute for what's found in food and milk. But hell, it's only like $7 for a bottle that lasts three months, so I figure it's better than nothing.
 
2013-04-15 07:30:22 PM

what_now: GleeUnit: What else could they possibly do to them to make them any less healthy than they already are??  Have you SEEN a public school "lunch" lately?


School cafeteria food doesn't have to be terrible. In my town, we've decided that having healthy kids is worth higher taxes

This is the lunch menu for the Somerville MA high school this week:

http://www.somerville.k12.ma.us/education/page/download.php?fileinfo =Q XByaWxfMjAxM19MdW5jaF9TSFMucGRmOjo6L3d3dy9zY2hvb2xzL3NjL3JlbW90ZS9pbWF nZXMvZG9jbWdyLzIyNjdmaWxlMTI3MTMucGRm&sectiondetailid=18500

They also serve free breakfast every day to every student:a Wheat bagel with cream cheese, fruit, cereal, granola or corn muffins.
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What the hell kind of lunch is "toasted cheese sandwich and tomato soup?" Is this an all-girls preschool?
 
2013-04-15 07:30:33 PM
The new lunch system is a TOTAL joke.   The portions are the same ; elementary school to high school.  Imagine 16 year old students who go to school all day, then run cross country after school and are eating the same amount of food as a kinder garden student.

The system, like everything Washington touches, is broken and asinine.

I can't wait to see what our health care is like!
 
2013-04-15 07:42:10 PM

lasercannon: It seems like a solution could be to provide snacks or some kind of food to those students in extracurricular athletic activities. Paid in part by the parents of the students partipating.


Or kids and their lardass parents could stop being whiny babies.  Kids don't just collapse on the spot if they eat a normal number of calories at lunch and then play a sport later.  I grew up in Michigan and there was a high school in Dearborn where the vast majority of students observed Ramadan and its fasting.  Lots of athletes there, and they didn't just drop dead when they had to play or practice their sports after fasting most of the day.

This is yet another chapter in the pussification of America, where an attempt to get our kids to not be obese pieces of crap is met with "oh my special little snowflake needs to eat 7000 calories a day or he'll just collapse on the floor!"  No, he won't.  In fact, the balance is pretty skewed the other way in that there are lots of morbidly obese children who clearly don't burn all the calories they eat, and zero kids collapsing because they are malnourished.
 
2013-04-15 07:42:55 PM
www.fatwallet.com
 
2013-04-15 08:12:52 PM
Gosh they're from Kansas and Iowa. What a shock.

Honestly, does the Midwest produce  anything besides corn and stupidity anymore?
 
2013-04-15 08:24:21 PM
Said congressman should watch this TED Talk by Jamie Oliver.

This kids are already stupid about healthy food because processed crap is cheaper per calorie even though it is devoid of decent nutrition, why make it easier to malnourish children?
 
2013-04-15 09:14:31 PM
This is not about calories. It's not about nutrition. It's not even about money.
All this is about the fact that this woman:
cdn01.dailycaller.com
suggested it.

This is why these morons oppose these requirements, opposition that would not exist had Laura suggested the same.
Basically, "we're not gonna do anything that n****r or his n****r b*tch says".
 
2013-04-15 10:55:36 PM
Can't the fat kids bring some brownies and cheetohs from home? It's not like school food was ever known to be good in the first place.
 
2013-04-15 11:22:01 PM

Old enough to know better: Gosh they're from Kansas and Iowa. What a shock.

Honestly, does the Midwest produce  anything besides corn and stupidity anymore?


Kansas is wheat. Iowa is corn.

Both states produce lots of stupidity though.
 
2013-04-16 12:03:27 AM
The congressmen have argued that the new regulations imposed by the USDA, as required by the Michelle Obama-backed Healthy and Hunger Free Kids Act, are overly restrictive for growing and active children, largely due to calorie caps on meals.

I came in prepared to facepalm, but that's actually a pretty reasonable suggestion.  I wasn't aware that the feds were instituting calorie caps, and now that I am I pretty much wholeheartedly agree that that's the dumbest shiat that I've ever heard in my life.  Did our government just decide to forget that children of poor families (which may only get school meals in a day) and ag families (where the kids work, and thus need more food) exist all of a sudden?  I guess that happens all the time, but they forgot  athletes exist?  Congress is usually farking  obsessed with athletes, they have official goddamned national inquiries every time a baseball player cheats at his workout.

As stupid as the GOP usually is about it, there  is a point at which the goddamned federal government trying to micromanage fine details of a twenty-minute period of an institution that only handles a few hundred clients becomes stupid and counterproductive.
 
2013-04-16 12:36:35 AM

thamike: Empty Matchbook: Featured Farker: Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

We ACTUALLY used to have Subway Sandwiches available for purchase. I think they were from some kind of "reject" bunch because, despite the fact that it said "Turkey" on the menu, they were basically mayonaisse sandwiches on sourdough bread with a bunch of shredded, pale lettuce and two THIN cut slices.

The pizza that tasted like it was made from industrial plastic was more appetizing (and likely healthier...)

We used to get surplus McRibs.  Disgusting?  Yes, but it was a reprieve from Taco Boat Tuesday.


Did they at least have the Sauce?
 
2013-04-16 12:40:35 AM

MadCat: My cousin's school has been fighting the USDA restrictions as well. When the football coach has to cater in food for his players so they can make it through practice without keeling over you know you have a problem with portions being too small. The problem with the regulation isn't the fact that they're trying to encourage healthy choices, the problem is that they tried to apply a one-size fit's all solution. The portion sizes might be correct for your average couch potato who's only exercise is gym class and walking between classes, but it is woefully inadequate for a student athlete that easily burns 10,000 calories a day.


10000 is quite a stretch.

Calories for Athletic Children Children aged 4 to 8 generally need 1,200 to 2,000 calories a day, children from 9 to 13 usually need 1,400 to 2,600 calories and teens from 14 to 18 usually need about 1,800 to 3,200 calories a day, according to MayoClinic.com. Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/520646-recommended-calorie-intake-fo r-athletes/#ixzz2Qb7Z3IjF /

Also, Michael Phelps stated in an interview last summer that he was consuming about 8000/day while at the peak of his training leading up to the Olympic games.  And on the anecdotal side, a good friend is a 230lb bodybuilder, and he's told me he needs about 3800 per day.  He measures everything he eats and tracks calories along with grams of protein, fiber, etc.
 
2013-04-16 01:22:44 AM
Hardly the school's responsibility to provide extra food so unimportant sports coaches can bulk up children for unimportant football teams. That stuff is extra-curricular and beyond the scope of necessary nutrition. A normal healthy diet is adequate for any children doing sports at a reasonable level. Any desire to eat more food to support weight gain and specialise their body for one sport is their own problem, and should anyway be discouraged for health reasons.
 
2013-04-16 01:53:42 AM
Well obviously the kids need more time out on the exercise yard, to burn off the excess calories. Keeping them in their cells 23 hours a day will of course lead to obesity.

And while you're at it, bring back the free weights!
 
2013-04-16 04:35:10 AM
The informal caucus of agriculture state senators will filibuster any proposal to wean farmers from the teat that is the school lunch program.
 
2013-04-16 05:05:06 AM

Empty Matchbook: thamike: Empty Matchbook: Featured Farker: Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

We ACTUALLY used to have Subway Sandwiches available for purchase. I think they were from some kind of "reject" bunch because, despite the fact that it said "Turkey" on the menu, they were basically mayonaisse sandwiches on sourdough bread with a bunch of shredded, pale lettuce and two THIN cut slices.

The pizza that tasted like it was made from industrial plastic was more appetizing (and likely healthier...)

We used to get surplus McRibs.  Disgusting?  Yes, but it was a reprieve from Taco Boat Tuesday.

Did they at least have the Sauce?


Yes, but being able to see through time didn't make them any less horrible.
 
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