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(The Daily Caller)   Congressmen introduce legislation to repeal the USDA healthy meal requirements for school lunches, because requiring a kid to salute the flag or pray before a football game is one thing; but teaching them to eat right? Well mister, that's socialism   (dailycaller.com) divider line 106
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2013-04-15 01:37:14 PM
I think there should be a new HOTY category: Most Trolly Headline. This one would definitely make the list.
 
2013-04-15 01:42:47 PM
What else could they possibly do to them to make them any less healthy than they already are??  Have you SEEN a public school "lunch" lately?
 
2013-04-15 01:43:19 PM
On the one hand, I think something has to be done about some of the crap offered. Fast food places now sell on-campus at our high schools, here. Kids need to learn to eat well and be fed good food.

On the other hand, some kids don't get enough calories at home. How do you address that while addressing obesity?
 
2013-04-15 01:45:13 PM
A woman I work with was telling me that her child's high school had to remove the salad bar because they could not precisely account for how many calories each kids was consuming.  Yeah...
 
2013-04-15 01:47:58 PM
People who are against healthy eating have absolutely zero right to complain about the cost of health care in America considering how many resources are wasted treating people who eat garbage all the goddamned time.

You want your kid to eat crappy food all the time? Fine. Then pay for his insulin out of pocket.
 
2013-04-15 01:49:31 PM
Their "No Hungry Kids Act" would eliminate upper calorie restrictions on public school meals.

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2013-04-15 01:49:53 PM
Iowa. The only place I've seen more grossly obese people than Iowa was Tennessee.
 
2013-04-15 01:51:18 PM

Calmamity: Iowa. The only place I've seen more grossly obese people than Iowa was Tennessee.


Note: I've never been to Mississippi.
 
2013-04-15 01:52:20 PM

Calmamity: Iowa. The only place I've seen more grossly obese people than Iowa was Tennessee.


you've obviously not been to Missouri.
 
2013-04-15 01:52:39 PM
Also, if a parent is biatching about the food, they should explain why they're not providing lunch for their kid themselves.
 
2013-04-15 01:53:23 PM
i sincerely hope steve king runs for senate next year.
 
2013-04-15 01:57:44 PM
Ah the party of Napoleon strikes again... Go be fat somewhere else you miserable ugly fat farks.

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2013-04-15 02:00:27 PM
"The voluminous menu that's good enough for the federal bureaucrats' cafeteria should be good enough for our children's school lunchroom," Huelskamp said

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2013-04-15 02:00:33 PM
Students complained of being hungry and some pointed out that many of the healthy food options were simply ending up in trashcans.

Don't worry Republicans, you can still feed your little fatties crap at home.  If you don't have an obese, diabetic adolescent, you're not a Real American!
 
2013-04-15 02:13:07 PM
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2013-04-15 02:17:43 PM
Back when I was a young lad, terrible school food was the norm.  It didn't taste good, they didn't give you enough of it, and it was never made out of what it was purported to be.

That being said, I still remember the steak nuggets and how delicious they were.  That and the after-gym-class molestation.
 
2013-04-15 02:17:50 PM

Nadie_AZ: On the one hand, I think something has to be done about some of the crap offered. Fast food places now sell on-campus at our high schools, here. Kids need to learn to eat well and be fed good food.

On the other hand, some kids don't get enough calories at home. How do you address that while addressing obesity?


By focusing on food quality and the kind of calories consumed rather than the number?  Poor kids, even the malnourished ones, tend to get way too many calories from empty carbs, trans-fats etc, because invariably the cheapest foords on the market are loaded with them (mac and cheese at $0.50/box, ramen Noodles for $0.15/pack etc etc.   Schools should be busting their asses to see that kids get all the protien and green veggies they can handle.  And my personal experience on the low carb diet has taught me that once you cut your barbs even if you food intake is 100grams of protien and even say, a sky-high 100 grams of fat a day, you are still barely eating 1500 calories a day
 
2013-04-15 02:18:52 PM

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F*CK YOU, I'M EATING.
 
2013-04-15 02:21:25 PM
Portion size is less of a problem when the food you're eating is healthy - kids' options should be restricted, rather than having their portions limited. Besides which, an industrial one-size-fits all meal plan will NEVER fit the likes of high school kids.

I was hungry all the time between the ages of 12 and 19. The one cup of milk + two pieces of toast + cereal I got for breakfast in school at 9am wouldn't hold me over until 10, let alone 12:30; and lunch wouldn't be enough to get me to the afternoon. If I had anything going on after school (I was a thespian), I needed several "meals" at unsanctioned times.

When I brought lunch, I brought an Emilio Estevez lunch. When I bought it, I had to buy 2.
 
2013-04-15 02:21:47 PM
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2013-04-15 02:22:30 PM
The same people who throw a shiat fit because poor people are given cell phones so they have a lifeline in  case of emergency are all ears when some high school kid complains about the lunch being given to them.

"Hey, we don't want this government food. Give us pizza and hamburgers."
"OK!!!"
 
2013-04-15 02:23:32 PM
Why the hell would you limit calories instead of mandating real food?  Teenagers are starving all the time. Teach them to have a good relationship with food, instead of neurotic calorie counting alternating with bingeing on junk food.
 
2013-04-15 02:25:12 PM

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2013-04-15 02:25:29 PM

Magorn: By focusing on food quality and the kind of calories consumed rather than the number?  Poor kids, even the malnourished ones, tend to get way too many calories from empty carbs, trans-fats etc


This is why Mississippi leads the nation in both child food insecurity and childhood obesity. Calories are cheap, nutrition is not.
 
2013-04-15 02:27:37 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Why the hell would you limit calories instead of mandating real food?  Teenagers are starving all the time. Teach them to have a good relationship with food, instead of neurotic calorie counting alternating with bingeing on junk food.


That.  I was an athlete when I was a teen.  I burned through many calories and if you held my limit the same as everyone else, I would have bonked big time...
 
2013-04-15 02:28:46 PM

GleeUnit: What else could they possibly do to them to make them any less healthy than they already are??  Have you SEEN a public school "lunch" lately?


When I went to public high school about 15 years or so ago, it was acceptable to eat french fries and pizza every day for lunch (since that was what was served). Frankly, what they have now must be an improvement, because I can't imagine anything less healthy than purified enriched white flour with a dollop of reconstituted tomato paste and a greasy coating of cheese served with week old hydrogenated grease and potato starch.
 
2013-04-15 02:33:58 PM

Dr Dreidel: Portion size is less of a problem when the food you're eating is healthy - kids' options should be restricted, rather than having their portions limited. Besides which, an industrial one-size-fits all meal plan will NEVER fit the likes of high school kids.

I was hungry all the time between the ages of 12 and 19. The one cup of milk + two pieces of toast + cereal I got for breakfast in school at 9am wouldn't hold me over until 10, let alone 12:30; and lunch wouldn't be enough to get me to the afternoon. If I had anything going on after school (I was a thespian), I needed several "meals" at unsanctioned times.

When I brought lunch, I brought an Emilio Estevez lunch. When I bought it, I had to buy 2.


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2013-04-15 02:35:37 PM
and BTW, it's not a huge thing, pun intended, but People REALLy need to stop thinking Obesity causes diabetes.  It doesn't they are linked because they are both symptoms of the same thing:  too much insulin production.   Insulin causes your body to store fat,  keep the levels low enough, and you can consume all the dietary fat you want and never gain a pound.  Insulin is also something to which the body builds up a resistance to, so as your body becomes more insulin resistant, you need to make more to do the same job, leading to a feedback loop that burns out your pancreas  and cuases type II 'beetus.

I say this so you don't make the same mistake I did.  I was once tremendously fat (370)  and then I went lo carb and lost 100lbs+   (now don't get me wrong 275 is STILL fat, but when you've been 370 it feels like skinny)  Since the weight stayed off, I began eating like crap again...and 10 years later, after actually having lost more weight, I got my type II diagnosis.

WHAT you eat is way more importnat than how much you eat when it comes to typeII

oh, and get your Vit D. levels checked.  Unless you get outside a fair bit, (and don't slather on the SPF 50 everytime you do go out) as a Us adult you are very likely Vit D deficient.  Vit D is HUGELY important to letting your body efficently use insulin, so when your levels are good you make a lot less insulin overall, lessening your chances of getting 'beetus making your weight stay more stable and  a couple other good side effects as well
 
2013-04-15 02:40:28 PM

GleeUnit: What else could they possibly do to them to make them any less healthy than they already are??  Have you SEEN a public school "lunch" lately?



School cafeteria food doesn't have to be terrible. In my town, we've decided that having healthy kids is worth higher taxes

This is the lunch menu for the Somerville MA high school this week:

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They also serve free breakfast every day to every student:a Wheat bagel with cream cheese, fruit, cereal, granola or corn muffins.
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2013-04-15 02:40:50 PM

Magorn: oh, and get your Vit D. levels checked.  Unless you get outside a fair bit, (and don't slather on the SPF 50 everytime you do go out) as a Us adult you are very likely Vit D deficient.  Vit D is HUGELY important to letting your body efficently use insulin, so when your levels are good you make a lot less insulin overall, lessening your chances of getting 'beetus making your weight stay more stable and  a couple other good side effects as well


This is good advice. I am almost positive that I have a deficiency in Vitamin D because I am practically a vampire.
 
2013-04-15 02:41:21 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Why the hell would you limit calories instead of mandating real food?  Teenagers are starving all the time. Teach them to have a good relationship with food, instead of neurotic calorie counting alternating with bingeing on junk food.


+1.  Give the kids high-fiber, high-protein, naturally-fortified foods and plenty of it.  Remove everything with added sugar/HFCS in the school, except maybe limited portions of juice, chocolate milk and a couple of crappy desserts.  Add water fountains with faucets and remove every soda machine.  Add food dispensers with fruit.
 
2013-04-15 02:42:11 PM

what_now: They also serve free breakfast every day to every student:a Wheat bagel with cream cheese, fruit, cereal, granola or corn muffins.
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That doesn't sound very healthy - lots of sugars, fats and carbohydrates for a bunch of kids who're going to be sitting around for the next 8 hours.
 
2013-04-15 02:46:42 PM
It just goes to show that the GOP will attack anything and everything associated with Obama.

The First Lady's pet project was, "Hey, maybe your kids could eat a little healthier".

"Fark you, socialist fascist! I'm going to feed my kid an entire pig deep fried and slathered in powdered sugar...and... and fat in protest! Because socialism!"
 
2013-04-15 02:49:26 PM

what_now: They also serve free breakfast every day to every student:a Wheat bagel with cream cheese, fruit, cereal, granola or corn muffins.
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Give them a bowl of gabacai:


And 2 tea eggs.
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2013-04-15 02:50:31 PM

RexTalionis: what_now: They also serve free breakfast every day to every student:a Wheat bagel with cream cheese, fruit, cereal, granola or corn muffins.
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Give them a bowl of gabacai:


And 2 tea eggs.
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2013-04-15 02:51:20 PM

Mugato: It just goes to show that the GOP will attack anything and everything associated with Obama.

The First Lady's pet project was, "Hey, maybe your kids could eat a little healthier".

"Fark you, socialist fascist! I'm going to feed my kid an entire pig deep fried and slathered in powdered sugar...and... and fat in protest! Because socialism!"


Look at their states: Iowa and Kansas.  I think this is a preemptive defense of corn and farm bill idiocy more than anything.
 
2013-04-15 02:53:31 PM
I force my children to eat cake every night, telling them to "eat up now" because Obama's going to steal their liberty.

/thanks, Obama.
 
2013-04-15 02:54:07 PM

Lumpmoose: Look at their states: Iowa and Kansas.  I think this is a preemptive defense of corn and farm bill idiocy more than anything.


Eh, the gov't is always going to pay farmers not to grow shiat, that's not going to change. People just hate Obama. I'm not saying he's a great President, far from it. But these people are outraged about how he had Bin Laden killed. I mean Bin Laden for shiatsakes.
 
2013-04-15 02:54:18 PM

Magorn: Insulin is also something to which the body builds up a resistance to, so as your body becomes more insulin resistant, you need to make more to do the same job, leading to a feedback loop that burns out your pancreas  and cuases type II 'beetus.


Another problem is that insulin resistance can cause constant hunger and carb cravings since your endocrine system thinks it's starving. This can make trying to diet pure hell. You might start out skinny as a rail (as I did), but if your pancreas isn't working right, you'll starting getting hungry all the time, and you can become obese very easily (as I was later). And since it takes up to 10-20 years for this to show up in an A1C or fasting glucose, it looks like obesity caused the Type II when it may have been the other way around. My fasting glucose was always normal, but my A1C showed that the 'beetus was creeping up on me.

I took a class on 'beetus management from a dietician who had Type II and had never been overweight in her life. She said even though obesity and Type II are often linked, and being obese and having poor eating habits can lead to Type II, the main problem is that some of us just have a pancreas with all the power of a Yugo, and poor eating habits make it worse.
 
2013-04-15 03:00:45 PM

RexTalionis: Magorn: oh, and get your Vit D. levels checked.  Unless you get outside a fair bit, (and don't slather on the SPF 50 everytime you do go out) as a Us adult you are very likely Vit D deficient.  Vit D is HUGELY important to letting your body efficently use insulin, so when your levels are good you make a lot less insulin overall, lessening your chances of getting 'beetus making your weight stay more stable and  a couple other good side effects as well

This is good advice. I am almost positive that I have a deficiency in Vitamin D because I am practically a vampire.


The more I read up on it, the more my amatuer scientist mind sees connections to Vit D that make make it the key to determining who gets Diabetes and who doesn't.  f'r instance, it's well known that controlling for all other dietary and lifestyle factors Blacks in the US have a much higher instance of type II diabetes than whites.  Now one possible answer to this is that the white population has had a longer exposure to "the diseases fo civilization" thant the African-American one, and so has killed off more people who are prone to diabetes.  But an analysis of the african tribal diets puts that into doubt as they've been largely carb-based for a long time.  However if you factor in the less direct sunlight that hits north America as opposed to Africa, and also factor in the lower efficency their darker skin has for producing Vit D., a possible answer starts rearing its head.
 
2013-04-15 03:01:01 PM

CheetahOlivetti: You might start out skinny as a rail (as I did), but if your pancreas isn't working right, you'll starting getting hungry all the time, and you can become obese very easily


When I was in college I used to play guitar at Yacht and Country clubs (it sounds lame and it sort of is but we managed to play some decent stuff) and our drummer "Tiny" (yes it was an ironic nickname) had diabetes and would hit the kitchen of wherever we played, even after he lost his foot to diabetes. Until he died. So maybe that's true. But why then is it so much more prominent in black people if it has nothing to do with their diet? Because let's face it, a lot of black people don't eat very well. Neither do southern white people so it's not a race thing.
 
2013-04-15 03:09:35 PM

CheetahOlivetti: Magorn: Insulin is also something to which the body builds up a resistance to, so as your body becomes more insulin resistant, you need to make more to do the same job, leading to a feedback loop that burns out your pancreas  and cuases type II 'beetus.

Another problem is that insulin resistance can cause constant hunger and carb cravings since your endocrine system thinks it's starving. This can make trying to diet pure hell. You might start out skinny as a rail (as I did), but if your pancreas isn't working right, you'll starting getting hungry all the time, and you can become obese very easily (as I was later). And since it takes up to 10-20 years for this to show up in an A1C or fasting glucose, it looks like obesity caused the Type II when it may have been the other way around. My fasting glucose was always normal, but my A1C showed that the 'beetus was creeping up on me.

I took a class on 'beetus management from a dietician who had Type II and had never been overweight in her life. She said even though obesity and Type II are often linked, and being obese and having poor eating habits can lead to Type II, the main problem is that some of us just have a pancreas with all the power of a Yugo, and poor eating habits make it worse.


FWIW  one of the glories of eating low carb is that you NEVER feel hungry.   It's not just because you get to eat all the protien and fat you want, though that helps, but because it seems that a swing in blood sugar is the chemical signal for hunger, so when it stays steady state, even when low, you don;t get the hunger signals).

  I noticed that the first time I did it a decade ago  I went from someone who would literally get hunger-crazed by about 2pm if I didn't eat lunch to someone for whom hunger was a purely intellectual thing most of the time, and if I was absorbed in something could forget to eat altogether.   Since my latest diagnosis I've switched to a modified low carb diet (60-80 carbs a day as opposed to 40).  The results have been ..promising.  I'm down about 45lbs  (so about 240 now)  I take only 2mg of glimperide once a day , and my sugars are making my Dr very happy.  I had 300 Fasting sugar  and an 11.9 A1C when I was diagnosed in Oct (as the Dr. said "horribly diabetic")  and at my most recent check up a month ago my fasting sugar that day was 120, my 30 day avg sugar was about 114 according to my meter,  and my A1C was a  5.6
 
2013-04-15 03:13:54 PM

Mugato: CheetahOlivetti: You might start out skinny as a rail (as I did), but if your pancreas isn't working right, you'll starting getting hungry all the time, and you can become obese very easily

When I was in college I used to play guitar at Yacht and Country clubs (it sounds lame and it sort of is but we managed to play some decent stuff) and our drummer "Tiny" (yes it was an ironic nickname) had diabetes and would hit the kitchen of wherever we played, even after he lost his foot to diabetes. Until he died. So maybe that's true. But why then is it so much more prominent in black people if it has nothing to do with their diet? Because let's face it, a lot of black people don't eat very well. Neither do southern white people so it's not a race thing.


yet it's more prevelant in black people that eat like crap as opposed to white folks who do, which is why I'm thinking Vitamin D may be a big part of it (see my post above).

and yeah Some diabetics just will not comply not matter how dire the warnings get.  Dated a girl a decade ago whose sugar would creep up to over 600 sometimes (she should have been in a diabetic coma at those levels but her body had habituated)  and despite having thins like a life-threating staff infeaction, she just kept drinking pop and eating whatever the hell she wanted.   The Storke she had at 38 which caused he to lose all memory of anything that happened to her in the past 10 years (including who the hell I was) was the inevitable result.
 
2013-04-15 03:19:50 PM
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2013-04-15 03:21:42 PM
I love the rules that our junior high (grades 6-8) works under

lunch with chicken tenders 3 tenders, a lettuce leaf, half pint of milk, one slice of bread, half a banana.

My son comes home so hungry that he hits the kitchen like a vacuum cleaner. The lunch ladies would like to feed them larger low cal meals, but aren't allowed to because of the law. Average numbers of obese kids is rising as a result. Oh, and they have banned several PE activities like football and soccer as being too dangerous so the exercise levels have decreased.
 
2013-04-15 03:27:33 PM
If there was anything I learned from school lunches, it's that pizza is healthy as long as it's accompanied by corn.
 
2013-04-15 03:28:53 PM

Magorn: Nadie_AZ: On the one hand, I think something has to be done about some of the crap offered. Fast food places now sell on-campus at our high schools, here. Kids need to learn to eat well and be fed good food.

On the other hand, some kids don't get enough calories at home. How do you address that while addressing obesity?

By focusing on food quality and the kind of calories consumed rather than the number?  Poor kids, even the malnourished ones, tend to get way too many calories from empty carbs, trans-fats etc, because invariably the cheapest foords on the market are loaded with them (mac and cheese at $0.50/box, ramen Noodles for $0.15/pack etc etc.   Schools should be busting their asses to see that kids get all the protien and green veggies they can handle.  And my personal experience on the low carb diet has taught me that once you cut your barbs even if you food intake is 100grams of protien and even say, a sky-high 100 grams of fat a day, you are still barely eating 1500 calories a day


I do get your point but do you really think it fits for school kids? Now I know things have changed. But for me I required a high calorie diet when i was in school. I had 2 and sometime 3 paper routes i would do before schoole even started. My skinny ass destroyed a stack of aunt Jemima every day. We did not have breakfast served at school so I was usually munching on an apple or a sammich on my walk to school(1 mile and yes there was snow and hills, Wyoming biatches). Throw in a gym classa nd wrestling practice, the walk home, then chopping wood so we did not freeze.

Point being, you could pour empty calories in me all day long at that age and it would get burned up as fast as I was taking it in. It's easy to say kids are lazy farkers these days but not all of them. Some do still push themselves like I did. But then again we do have fat little farks that don't even walk anywhere.

How are we asa  society supposed to set a standard for school meals that meet the needs of all the kids?
 
2013-04-15 03:34:47 PM
This legislation is being bought for you by the Coca Cola Bottling Company and The HFCS Council.
 
2013-04-15 03:37:06 PM

sammyk: How are we asa society supposed to set a standard for school meals that meet the needs of all the kids?


The answer to that is obvious: Let the food service companies sell schools what ever gives them the highest profit margin.
 
2013-04-15 03:39:17 PM

sammyk: Magorn: Nadie_AZ: On the one hand, I think something has to be done about some of the crap offered. Fast food places now sell on-campus at our high schools, here. Kids need to learn to eat well and be fed good food.

On the other hand, some kids don't get enough calories at home. How do you address that while addressing obesity?

By focusing on food quality and the kind of calories consumed rather than the number?  Poor kids, even the malnourished ones, tend to get way too many calories from empty carbs, trans-fats etc, because invariably the cheapest foords on the market are loaded with them (mac and cheese at $0.50/box, ramen Noodles for $0.15/pack etc etc.   Schools should be busting their asses to see that kids get all the protien and green veggies they can handle.  And my personal experience on the low carb diet has taught me that once you cut your barbs even if you food intake is 100grams of protien and even say, a sky-high 100 grams of fat a day, you are still barely eating 1500 calories a day

I do get your point but do you really think it fits for school kids? Now I know things have changed. But for me I required a high calorie diet when i was in school. I had 2 and sometime 3 paper routes i would do before schoole even started. My skinny ass destroyed a stack of aunt Jemima every day. We did not have breakfast served at school so I was usually munching on an apple or a sammich on my walk to school(1 mile and yes there was snow and hills, Wyoming biatches). Throw in a gym classa nd wrestling practice, the walk home, then chopping wood so we did not freeze.

Point being, you could pour empty calories in me all day long at that age and it would get burned up as fast as I was taking it in. It's easy to say kids are lazy farkers these days but not all of them. Some do still push themselves like I did. But then again we do have fat little farks that don't even walk anywhere.

How are we asa  society supposed to set a standard for school meals that meet the needs ...


It's fairly easy, the hard part is to stop giving the world's wealth from natural resources to a select few because they said so.

I never understood why people would always be like, "money is getting tight these days" before the recession even started, yet would never question how that's possible being the economy and thus money has been growing for decades.
 
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