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(CBS News)   Western efforts against the Taliban have been so successful that Afghanistan is expecting a record opium harvest   (cbsnews.com) divider line 116
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2013-04-15 05:21:42 PM

UnspokenVoice: See my remark above. Anybody who wants to get drugs can get drugs. I have NEVER had an issue scoring drugs, it may take a few hours but it has never been a problem.


So tell us about the first time. How did you come to the decision to do PCP?
 
2013-04-15 05:34:15 PM

Treygreen13: UnspokenVoice: See my remark above. Anybody who wants to get drugs can get drugs. I have NEVER had an issue scoring drugs, it may take a few hours but it has never been a problem.

So tell us about the first time. How did you come to the decision to do PCP?


A buddy mentioned he had tried it out west, I asked a friend of a relative (his name is honestly and ironically "Angel") if he could get me some. It had sounded interesting, similar to mescaline so I really wanted to try it. I've only consumed it twice, it wasn't really for me, but once was in the woods and the second time was in an apartment where I watched a tapestry of a water fall seemingly leak real water for what seemed like days but was probably only around eight hours. Outside it was a new ball game, I was full of energy and loved playing with the trees.

Even if I had had a bad reaction I'd still be in favor of legalization. I don't expect to change your mind by the way. I just think you're short sighted and have been scared into your illogical position by the constant barrage from authoritarians. Drugs are cheap without all the criminal markup. Tax the hell out of 'em and use the money for something good. Keeping the money in our society is a huge first step.
 
2013-04-15 05:47:59 PM

UnspokenVoice: Treygreen13: UnspokenVoice: See my remark above. Anybody who wants to get drugs can get drugs. I have NEVER had an issue scoring drugs, it may take a few hours but it has never been a problem.

So tell us about the first time. How did you come to the decision to do PCP?

A buddy mentioned he had tried it out west, I asked a friend of a relative (his name is honestly and ironically "Angel") if he could get me some. It had sounded interesting, similar to mescaline so I really wanted to try it. I've only consumed it twice, it wasn't really for me, but once was in the woods and the second time was in an apartment where I watched a tapestry of a water fall seemingly leak real water for what seemed like days but was probably only around eight hours. Outside it was a new ball game, I was full of energy and loved playing with the trees.

Even if I had had a bad reaction I'd still be in favor of legalization. I don't expect to change your mind by the way. I just think you're short sighted and have been scared into your illogical position by the constant barrage from authoritarians. Drugs are cheap without all the criminal markup. Tax the hell out of 'em and use the money for something good. Keeping the money in our society is a huge first step.


I don't expect to change your mind either. And I understand why you might feel the way you do.

My concern isn't with one person who wants to take something and see what it's about, and sit in his room and watch the walls melt. It's *everyone*. We (humans in general) are a giant stupid population living our lives to excess with little concern for our surroundings. As I've stated upthread, it's been proven we can't trust our population with even the basic things like regulating our food intake, or texting while operating a vehicle at 70mph. The idea of someone at 18 (even me at 18) being able to decide if I should take psychotropic or addictive drugs from the gas station terrifies me.

When I walk into a Wal-Mart, I feel fear. Not because someone in there might be on drugs. I'm fairly certain somebody in Wal-Mart is on drugs. But because I know that all those bizarre people hanging out in Wal-Mart made all those decisions to get them to where they were. But they're there, running around in spongebob shorts spending their income on beer and cigarettes and sugary drinks and killing themselves with those poor decisions, and I think "what if these people could buy PCP?"
 
2013-04-15 06:00:10 PM
Y'all be posting in a retard shill 1984 thread.

/Taliban never banned opium. The Taliban encourages opium and taxes it. Ay yi yi.
 
2013-04-15 06:02:36 PM

Treygreen13: I don't expect to change your mind either. And I understand why you might feel the way you do.

My concern isn't with one person who wants to take something and see what it's about, and sit in his room and watch the walls melt. It's *everyone*. We (humans in general) are a giant stupid population living our lives to excess with little concern for our surroundings. As I've stated upthread, it's been proven we can't trust our population with even the basic things like regulating our food intake, or texting while operating a vehicle at 70mph. The idea of someone at 18 (even me at 18) being able to decide if I should take psychotropic or addictive drugs from the gas station terrifies me.

When I walk into a Wal-Mart, I feel fear. Not because someone in there might be on drugs. I'm fairly certain somebody in Wal-Mart is on drugs. But because I know that all those bizarre people hanging out in Wal-Mart made all those decisions to get them to where they were. But they're there, running around in spongebob shorts spending their income on beer and cigarettes and sugary drinks and killing themselves with those poor decisions, and I think "what if these people could buy PCP?"


I guess the gist of my point is they already can buy PCP. I *am* your average druggie IF they are in a position where they can afford their drugs. I'm strapped up with fentanyl and am happily shooting dilaudid every few hours. (I prefer my drugs come from someone with clean hands.) So, yeah, this is the view from the other side of the spectrum I suppose. If there's a drug - even rare ones, I've probably tried it. They're available right now, taking the crime out of it will most certainly solve some problems.
 
2013-04-15 06:20:17 PM

UnspokenVoice: Treygreen13: I don't expect to change your mind either. And I understand why you might feel the way you do.

My concern isn't with one person who wants to take something and see what it's about, and sit in his room and watch the walls melt. It's *everyone*. We (humans in general) are a giant stupid population living our lives to excess with little concern for our surroundings. As I've stated upthread, it's been proven we can't trust our population with even the basic things like regulating our food intake, or texting while operating a vehicle at 70mph. The idea of someone at 18 (even me at 18) being able to decide if I should take psychotropic or addictive drugs from the gas station terrifies me.

When I walk into a Wal-Mart, I feel fear. Not because someone in there might be on drugs. I'm fairly certain somebody in Wal-Mart is on drugs. But because I know that all those bizarre people hanging out in Wal-Mart made all those decisions to get them to where they were. But they're there, running around in spongebob shorts spending their income on beer and cigarettes and sugary drinks and killing themselves with those poor decisions, and I think "what if these people could buy PCP?"

I guess the gist of my point is they already can buy PCP. I *am* your average druggie IF they are in a position where they can afford their drugs. I'm strapped up with fentanyl and am happily shooting dilaudid every few hours. (I prefer my drugs come from someone with clean hands.) So, yeah, this is the view from the other side of the spectrum I suppose. If there's a drug - even rare ones, I've probably tried it. They're available right now, taking the crime out of it will most certainly solve some problems.


I agree that taking the crime out of it would probably solve problems. I just think that our society as a whole can't make the decision to use much of anything responsibly, and that the barrier between much of our society regularly using those drugs in an irresponsible way *is* that they are illegal, and that there is some fear that they will go to jail.

I think marijuana is a good example of my stance on the whole issue. I don't think marijuana is a harmful drug, and I don't think less of anyone I meet who smokes it. I have a lot of friends who smoke it on occasion and they're absolutely normal. Hell, some of 'em are smarter. If legalization came up for a vote for the country, I'd probably vote for it primarily because it isn't harmful but also so that I can stop hearing about it from my stoner friends.  But at the same time, if it remains illegal I won't exactly be upset. Since it's illegal,  nobody is sparking up on the barstool next to me, nobody's walking around smoking weed in my building. They're (usually) enjoying it at home in privacy. I'm not seeing advertisements for weed, I'm not dealing with stoned people all day because they can. And that's why I'm not marching around demanding for it to be legal. As it is right now it doesn't effect me on a daily basis. And I'm ok with that.
 
2013-04-15 06:24:33 PM
I thought we were there to kick Al Qaeda's ass in the Global War on TerrorismTM  Figures someone is trying to  convert it to the War on DrugsTM and maintain scrutiny free funding in perpetuity.
 
2013-04-15 06:40:30 PM
Lol subby is so naive ....such a good kid
 
2013-04-15 06:52:06 PM

Treygreen13: I agree that taking the crime out of it would probably solve problems. I just think that our society as a whole can't make the decision to use much of anything responsibly, and that the barrier between much of our society regularly using those drugs in an irresponsible way *is* that they are illegal, and that there is some fear that they will go to jail.

I think marijuana is a good example of my stance on the whole issue. I don't think marijuana is a harmful drug, and I don't think less of anyone I meet who smokes it. I have a lot of friends who smoke it on occasion and they're absolutely normal. Hell, some of 'em are smarter. If legalization came up for a vote for the country, I'd probably vote for it primarily because it isn't harmful but also so that I can stop hearing about it from my stoner friends. But at the same time, if it remains illegal I won't exactly be upset. Since it's illegal, nobody is sparking up on the barstool next to me, nobody's walking around smoking weed in my building. They're (usually) enjoying it at home in privacy. I'm not seeing advertisements for weed, I'm not dealing with stoned people all day because they can. And that's why I'm not marching around demanding for it to be legal. As it is right now it doesn't effect me on a daily basis. And I'm ok with that.


We, as a group of people, are idiots. I won't argue that. However, drugs are already available and I've never met a single person who's not done drugs for the sole reason that there were legal repercussions for it. We already have laws in place for bad behaviors while on drugs - driving while intoxicated, burglary, public disorder, etc...

I voted for gay marriage for the same reason actually. I'd go so far as to say that an adult choosing to ingest anything into their body is a far greater civil right than gay marriage. Yes, that includes things that will kill said person. Yes that includes things that will harm you. You, as a person, should have complete control over what you have in your body. (I also think we should be allowed to end our lives as well but that's a topic that overlaps with this one but really isn't the same.)

Anyhow, with the laws that cover bad behaviors there isn't need to criminalize things that cause bad behaviors. We frown on drinking and driving (and rightfully so, though I'm guilty I really haven't done so for about a year now simply because of a personal epiphany - I blew my BMW sideways into some trees and got away with it and didn't kill anyone but that was enough for me to stop) but we don't outlaw alcohol. Hell, drinking in public is even legal here. We've criminalized the bad behavior and that's enough.

I guess I'm guilty of being extreme in my views in that I almost always side on the side of personal freedom. I also tend to despise extremism so I'll work on my views and probably justify it as that this, in particular, isn't really extreme. I still, for instance, don't think that my personal freedoms allow me to harm another person, ever, in any way.

But, having literally tried most every single high-inducing drug (from across the globe) and most hallucinogenic drugs and quite a few depressants I truly can't think of a single drug I think should be illegal. Of course I'm biased, I'm a druggie. I'm the one guy who argued with the commercial about wanting to be a junkie when you grow up. I don't think that negates my logic however. Personal freedom is the greatest form of freedom we can have and we must accept the negatives that come with it. Nobody should be forcing you to put something into your body just as nobody should be prohibiting you from doing so. Bad behaviors are already criminalized.

I do understand where you're coming from. Unfortunately I don't understand the logic and I think your view (a very common one) is based on fear that's not even your own. Much like opinions on marijuana are changing, so too will the opinions for more. I hope... My body, my death, my life... So long as those don't harm another then the risks are greatly overwhelmed by the benefits of a free society.

/is old
//has thought this through and is content in these beliefs
/thinks more people should use drugs actually (should be used responsibly)
 
2013-04-15 11:22:50 PM
fark the opium.

where the hell is the hashish?  I haven't had any good Afghani hash in over 30 years, dammit.
 
2013-04-16 12:29:56 AM

AbbeySomeone: doglover: Gulper Eel: Fark's sake, long as we're in Afghanistan why not just buy up the damn opium crop ourselves? It actually does have use as a painkiller, after all.  Long as the farmers sell only to us, we're cool. If not, well...

Because drugs are bad. Unless they're amphetamines.

Yes, but don't let the doctors know that you drink wine or smoke pot on occasion; just let them stock you up with xanax, vicodan, flexoril and such. You must remain in their control.


Paranoid much?
 
2013-04-16 01:57:48 AM

Dinki: Does subby think the only opium growers in Afghanistan are Taliban?


And done in one!  Nicely, I might add.

Seriously, is there anyone still naive enough to think that the US is over there for any reason other than to claim all that sweet smack for ourselves?
 
2013-04-16 10:48:35 AM

ShadowKamui: namatad: legalize ALL drugs
make them OTC to anyone over 18
death for giving them to under 18, unless you are the parent

TADA
you put the black market out of business with one law.
TADA
no more drug warlords, no more taliban trying to stomp out poppies

/sigh - cue the "drugs are bad" tards .... like the war on drugs has been good for ANYONE other than drug lords?

Hell no
The last thing we need are the return of opium dens or legalized crack houses.

Weed and maybe ecstasy are one thing, opiates are life destroying if abused and should be used for painkillers only


Your medical education needs a bit of improvement.
Opium is used for many things in medical practice.
 
2013-04-16 10:49:43 AM

danno_to_infinity: fark the opium.

where the hell is the hashish?  I haven't had any good Afghani hash in over 30 years, dammit.


It is sold to a market that appreciates it.
In USA, not so much.
 
2013-04-16 10:53:25 AM

edmo: I thought we were there to kick Al Qaeda's ass in the Global War on TerrorismTM  Figures someone is trying to  convert it to the War on DrugsTM and maintain scrutiny free funding in perpetuity.


I am patiently waiting for the first Republican to blurt out "It's not actual War when we do it."
 
2013-04-16 08:31:48 PM

Gulper Eel: Fark's sake, long as we're in Afghanistan why not just buy up the damn opium crop ourselves? It actually does have use as a painkiller, after all.  Long as the farmers sell only to us, we're cool. If not, well...


How can you have a War on Drugs(tm) if no one brings the drugs?
 
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