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(WRCB)   From today's 'you actually paid for this study' news: Men can't read women's emotions   (wrcbtv.com) divider line 200
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2013-04-15 06:07:54 AM  

DemonEater: Dion Fortune: This study is not something to readily draw conclusions from though.  All they did was look at static, disembodied pictures of eyeballs.  Perhaps men judge women's emotions more from other parts of their face or body.

Men look at women's eyes???


Only when lying very very hard.
 
2013-04-15 06:16:53 AM  

FunkOut: SpaceBison: [officeforward.com image 406x1023]

Why did they use a lesbian head? And why are all the faces various stages of passing gas?


Ultimately, every face is a stage of passing gas.

/this is my triumphant face
 
2013-04-15 06:24:46 AM  
fark you Fark Mods. Why dont you try TF-ing a thread from the get-go instead of waiting for 150 comments. Jackholes. Now Im going to turn Ad-block back on.
 
2013-04-15 06:40:25 AM  
My wife's best friend is a lesbian and i've been privy to witness several of her arguments with whoever she was dating at the time...

That shiat is so dramatic and full of passive aggressive bullshiat that i had to literally put a ban on it at my house... The rule is, drama gets left at the door or you will go home until it's over...

There's nothing more soul sucking than hearing an argument take place over a cell phone, then after watching them hang up on the other person in frustration, have them turn around and try dragging me or my family into her maelstrom of drama because of an argument that started with her SO letting her dog shiat in the apartment, that ended with angry tears and wondering why she can't stop loving her SO despite the fact that it took the last 4 HOURS to list all the crap wrong with their relationship...

Yeah, guys, when your female SO brings up that incident that happened 2 years ago at her mom's house and she was doing you a favor and trying not to start a fight in front of her mother "so she didn't think bad of you" ... imagine 2 women doing that over the course of 6 hours and that's the sort of arguments i've witnessed lesbians have, be thankful you aren't wired like that...
 
2013-04-15 06:43:30 AM  

FunkOut: SpaceBison: [officeforward.com image 406x1023]

Why did they use a lesbian head? And why are all the faces various stages of passing gas?


The most current theory on women's emotional states is that they are not dictated by external interactions, but by varying internal gas pressures. And the moon.
 
2013-04-15 06:55:48 AM  
SpaceBison: facial expressions

Is the joke that only some of the descriptions don't match the actual expressions being made? Because there's no way I'd describe upper top left as "lifted eyebrows." Just enough of them seem accurate to wonder if the entire piece is meant to be taken semi-seriously, but then just enough are different to make me wonder if I'm too dumb to understand that it's an obvious joke.
 
2013-04-15 06:56:50 AM  
Judas priest, who would want to?!
 
2013-04-15 07:03:33 AM  
They ran up a bunch of hours on the MRI machine but didn't use the machine that goes "ping!".   Study is incomplete.
 
2013-04-15 07:04:58 AM  

SpaceBison: [officeforward.com image 406x1023]


I notice there is not an image for a genuine smile, gratitude or genuine happiness...

Seems legit.
 
2013-04-15 07:27:05 AM  

bighairyguy: They ran up a bunch of hours on the MRI machine but didn't use the machine that goes "ping!".   Study is incomplete.


Thats because the machine that goes !Ping! can only be billed at $50 an hour, whereas the MRI can be billed at $1750 an hour.
 
2013-04-15 07:36:43 AM  
Subby is an idiot.

Nowhere in the article does it state that the study was funded by taxpayer dollars, and even if it was, you would have to pay taxes in Germany for subby's moronic headline to be true.
 
2013-04-15 07:37:46 AM  
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2013-04-15 07:55:06 AM  

Mentat: The Man:

"Yes Dear" = "I know where this is going.  There is literally nothing I can say or do to win.  If I counter your emotional bullshiat with logic, you'll say I'm talking down to you.  If I lose my temper, you'll say I'm bullying you.  If I don't do anything, you'll say I'm emotionally crippled.  So I'm just going to say and do the absolute bare minimum in the hopes that you'll stomp off for a few hours so I can have some peace.  When you've decided I've been punished enough, you'll 'forgive' me for whatever it is I did and I'll pretend like you're right and then we'll start the entire thing over again in three days when I make an off-hand comment suggesting I'm not looking forward to your mother's visit or when I get a slight boner when you complain about your hot sister wasting $5000 on a boob job.  I mean, let's be honest.  We both know I saw her in her underwear last year when I accidentally walked in on her changing clothes in our bedroom and we both know that she engineered that little fiasco in order to piss you off because she loves to push your buttons.  Besides, what the fark do you care what she does with her money?  What else is she going to do with it?  She's a farking 'social media strategist'.  What the hell does that even mean?  Oh right, it means 'OMG I'm 35 years old and unemployed because the powers that be think I'm a technological dinosaur!  Can I move in with you?'  And of course you'll say yes and you'll be glaring at me the whole time, but I can promise you I won't want to fark that at 35.  I've seen pictures of your mother at 22 and 35 and I can see where this is going.  Social media strategist my ass.  I worked at a god damn dotcom.  I helped invent the streaming video algorithm that YouTube uses, and yet now I have to listen to some punk ass 21 year old tell me that I don't understand technology?  Let's see what Johnny McShiatsALot can do the next time the servers go down and I decide to call in sick.  Have fun in the cloud asshole. ...


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2013-04-15 08:05:27 AM  

treecologist: Subby is an idiot.

Nowhere in the article does it state that the study was funded by taxpayer dollars, and even if it was, you would have to pay taxes in Germany for subby's moronic headline to be true.


Did subby allude to taxpayers footing the bill or am I missing something?
 
2013-04-15 08:18:40 AM  

MayoSlather: treecologist: Subby is an idiot.

Nowhere in the article does it state that the study was funded by taxpayer dollars, and even if it was, you would have to pay taxes in Germany for subby's moronic headline to be true.

Did subby allude to taxpayers footing the bill or am I missing something?


Yeah, I read it that the "you" was directed at the unspecified person or entity who funded the study, not you the reader.
 
2013-04-15 08:19:49 AM  
I don't really think the issue is "women", but "people".  Men complain about how "women" behave in a relationship because that's the only subset of the population a majority of them try to have a relationship with.  If men dated men and women equally, they'd probably discover that these attitudes are pretty universal across genders.

/if men can't understand women, it's a deficiency in women.  If women can't understand men, it's a deficiency in women.  In reality, people are just bad at understanding other people.
 
2013-04-15 08:28:46 AM  

Fast Moon: I don't really think the issue is "women", but "people".  Men complain about how "women" behave in a relationship because that's the only subset of the population a majority of them try to have a relationship with.  If men dated men and women equally, they'd probably discover that these attitudes are pretty universal across genders.

/if men can't understand women, it's a deficiency in women.  If women can't understand men, it's a deficiency in women.  In reality, people are just bad at understanding other people.


But that is not what is said.

Men say "I can`t understand women" and also say "I can understand men"

women say "Men are easy to understand" but then say "I can`t understand women, sometimes not even myself"

So your premise fails on basic principles.

My theory goes :

Women make it hard for everyone to understand them to the point that sometimes they don`t understand themselves.

Men try to have an easy life so they are easy to understand.

It seems to fit the data...
 
2013-04-15 08:30:21 AM  
I'm always angering women with my apparent indifference to them when I'm just shy and confused by them. My lack of self-esteem prevents me from reacting to them even when I think I may have detected correctly that they're interested in me. Maybe I'm a touch autistic and just don't notice social cues.
 
2013-04-15 08:32:20 AM  
her: I'm hungry.  Let's get lunch.
me: OK.  This is your old neighborhood.  What's good around here?
her: Guh, you always make me pick.  You're so indecisive.
me: ok, I think I saw a Chinese place back there that looked pretty good.
her: No, I don't want Chinese.
me: Tacos?
her: I had tacos on Tuesday...
me: Fark you, I'm getting Chinese.  See you later.
 
2013-04-15 08:38:06 AM  

SpaceBison: It's not that men can't read women's emotions, it's just that we really don't care.


This. Hit your mid teens (or for some mid 20's) and you've had it up to farking here.
 
2013-04-15 08:46:20 AM  

quatchi: jtown: aerojockey: [www.aerojockey.com image 640x247]

[jonesview.files.wordpress.com image 500x308]

Ha! I finally came in first in one of those "post the oblig pic" contests!

Victory is mine!


Not only did you come in first, yours is bigger.

/not that it matters
 
2013-04-15 08:47:12 AM  
"From today's 'you actually paid for this study' news: "

Look, don't be a jerk about this.  You know as well as I do that if someone offered you 500k a year for five years you'd study the chemical make up of Badger semen.  DON'T blow a brothers Gravy Train.

I've seen this in the Arts as well.  Artist gets huge grant to produce massive painting.  Starts with best intentions, promises 2year delivery date.  728 days later the cleaning lady found me  .  .  . finds artist passed out on the studio floor.  I  .  .  .  artist whips out conceptual piece in 12 hours.  Patron knows what went on but needs to save face.  Paining goes on tour to critical acclaim because nobody wants to be the kid pointing at the emperor.

 get in line for your share . . .
 
2013-04-15 08:52:49 AM  
dready zim:
But that is not what is said.

Men say "I can`t understand women" and also say "I can understand men"

women say "Men are easy to understand" but then say "I can`t understand women, sometimes not even myself"


But that's not what the article said, either.  The article didn't say anything about how women reacted in the same controlled conditions.  All it said was that men's brains become more apathetic when faced with a female emotional response as opposed to a male one, rendering it harder to judge.  The conclusion wasn't that women are harder to read, but that men just don't care enough to interpret them.  Otherwise the results would have shown the brain working equally hard at interpreting both, but just got the female one wrong with higher frequency.
 
2013-04-15 09:05:04 AM  
Women have emotions?
 
2013-04-15 09:09:30 AM  

Foxxinnia: So essentially all men are borderline autistic. Sounds about right.


In other news, "autistic" now means "doesn't posses psychic superpowers."

/the hilarious thing is, women are just as "autistic" as men
//the source of nearly all the drama women are known for stems from their fundamental belief that they're psychic, when they're actually not
 
2013-04-15 09:09:43 AM  
Yay, it's another thread to make me feel better about being Forever Alone.
 
2013-04-15 09:11:50 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously, guys, if you don't like the women you are farking, why stay with them?


Because the girl I'm farking has a better sense of humor than you do?
 
2013-04-15 09:13:37 AM  

Tatterdemalian: Foxxinnia: So essentially all men are borderline autistic. Sounds about right.

In other news, "autistic" now means "doesn't posses psychic superpowers."

/the hilarious thing is, women are just as "autistic" as men
//the source of nearly all the drama women are known for stems from their fundamental belief that they're psychic, when they're actually not


My FWB (and occasionally more) actually said to me during a discussion that even though I don't fully understand what she's saying, it isn't on her to actually impart more information. It's on me to come to conclusions based on the partial picture she's given me. I'm STILL trying to wrap my head around that one.
 
2013-04-15 09:15:44 AM  
There is a very useful way of dealing with emotional people - I just live with the knowledge that I cannot control another persons emotions. They are going to feel however they want to because emotions really are a choice based on how you've decided to look at a situation. If you don't like how you feel, change the way you look at the situation. Emotions are not at all complicated; its the people who have them that have the issues. Once someone comes to this realization about emotions, all drama falls away and life becomes so much easier to live without other peoples complications.
 
2013-04-15 09:20:02 AM  

SurfaceTension: Tatterdemalian: Foxxinnia: So essentially all men are borderline autistic. Sounds about right.

In other news, "autistic" now means "doesn't posses psychic superpowers."

/the hilarious thing is, women are just as "autistic" as men
//the source of nearly all the drama women are known for stems from their fundamental belief that they're psychic, when they're actually not

My FWB (and occasionally more) actually said to me during a discussion that even though I don't fully understand what she's saying, it isn't on her to actually impart more information. It's on me to come to conclusions based on the partial picture she's given me. I'm STILL trying to wrap my head around that one.


It means she wants you to do more stuff together, to increase the shared memories and experiences you both have to the point where you actually *can* know what she's saying without needing more than a few nonverbal clues. That's how body language really works, and the lack of a common frame of reference created by these shared experiences is how wires get crossed.

/everything is really much simpler to understand once you actually study it
//too bad this is often interpreted as "ruining the magic" (of ignorance, presumably)
 
2013-04-15 09:40:09 AM  
'Men have trouble reading emotion from the eyes of women.'

I thing this is true  When they roll their eyes in the back of their head, they might be feeling pretty good, or they might be feel not much at all because I put too much ether in the handkerchief.  It is hard to tell and in neither case are they speaking clearly.
 
2013-04-15 09:42:32 AM  
Stuck your dick in crazy, huh?
 
2013-04-15 09:49:14 AM  
I can read women just fine.  If you can't, that's your problem not hers.
 
2013-04-15 09:52:14 AM  

PanicMan: I can read women just fine.  If you can't, that's your problem not hers.


Your mom doesn't count.
 
2013-04-15 09:53:30 AM  

Abacus9: Foxxinnia: So essentially all men are borderline autistic. Sounds about right.

No, we're just not overly emotional about every little thing.


Tell me again why men commit so much more violent crime than women.
 
2013-04-15 10:06:37 AM  

Graffito: Abacus9: Foxxinnia: So essentially all men are borderline autistic. Sounds about right.

No, we're just not overly emotional about every little thing.

Tell me again why men commit so much more violent crime than women.


Because we can.

/and because it works, at least until we get caught
 
2013-04-15 10:11:24 AM  

Graffito: Abacus9: Foxxinnia: So essentially all men are borderline autistic. Sounds about right.

No, we're just not overly emotional about every little thing.

Tell me again why men commit so much more violent crime than women.


Well, emotionally-driven violent crime usually involves a woman.  Either you're beating her because she won't shut up about that one time you forgot to mow the lawn 5 years ago, or you're beating up some other guy for looking at her the wrong way, etc.
 
2013-04-15 10:28:52 AM  

kxs401: A third possibility is that it's something she wanted you to do on your own initiative, like compliment her haircut or ask about her day. These things don't really mean a lot when done mechanically, which is what's going to happen if she says, "What's wrong is I wanted you to ask about my day," and you say, "Oh, of course, tell me about your day." That setup doesn't leave one convinced that you actually want to hear about her day. And compliments given on command are pretty worthless too.


Maybe women need to marry someone who's been to weekly seminars on "How to notice new haircuts"?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/17/the-onionobama-releases-5_n _7 20858.html


My mother has run a beauty salon for 40 years, and I literally grew up there, running around as a toddler, and later doing chores.  Women will spend a huge amount of money and mental effort thinking about hairstyles.  They will agonize of a small change in the shade of a highlight, and the magnitude of this change in their mind is huge, but in reality doesn't make a darn bit of difference.  The chances of a man noticing such a change is very small, and quite unreasonable.
 
2013-04-15 10:31:58 AM  

Tatterdemalian: Graffito: Abacus9: Foxxinnia: So essentially all men are borderline autistic. Sounds about right.

No, we're just not overly emotional about every little thing.

Tell me again why men commit so much more violent crime than women.

Because we can.

/and because it works, at least until we get caught


Exactly, women are just as violent as men.  They just aren't as effectual at it.
 
2013-04-15 10:32:01 AM  
It doesn't help that women get all emotional about every goddamn little thing that ever happens.
 
2013-04-15 10:50:04 AM  
I blame Botox.
 
2013-04-15 10:56:50 AM  

czei: Women will spend a huge amount of money and mental effort thinking about hairstyles.  They will agonize of a small change in the shade of a highlight, and the magnitude of this change in their mind is huge, but in reality doesn't make a darn bit of difference.   The chances of a man noticing such a change is very small, and quite unreasonable.


Women: I made this life changing decision and he didnt even notice.
Men: Wait, what? No sex again? WTF?!
 
2013-04-15 11:21:07 AM  
Women only have two emotions: pissed of and not-quite-so pissed off.
 
2013-04-15 11:34:08 AM  

Graffito: Abacus9: Foxxinnia: So essentially all men are borderline autistic. Sounds about right.

No, we're just not overly emotional about every little thing.

Tell me again why men commit so much more violent crime than women.


Because cutting off a Patriarchal Oppressor's penis while he sleeps is not considered a crime and if you say it is you hate women.
 
2013-04-15 11:36:28 AM  
Fast Moon:

The article didn't say anything about how women reacted in the same controlled conditions.  All it said was that men's brains become more apathetic when faced with a female emotional response as opposed to a male one, rendering it harder to judge.  The conclusion wasn't that women are harder to read, but that men just don't care enough to interpret them.

I think you're being unfair. Men aren't necessarily more "apathetic" with the female eyes. They took longer and were wrong more often, yes. Honestly it's probably because with the male eyes they could focus 100% on the question and answer easily, but with the female eyes they were distracted trying to discern what the rest of the face and also body looked like so they could decide whether they would fark her or not.
 
2013-04-15 11:40:00 AM  

Fafai: Fast Moon:

The article didn't say anything about how women reacted in the same controlled conditions.  All it said was that men's brains become more apathetic when faced with a female emotional response as opposed to a male one, rendering it harder to judge.  The conclusion wasn't that women are harder to read, but that men just don't care enough to interpret them.

I think you're being unfair. Men aren't necessarily more "apathetic" with the female eyes. They took longer and were wrong more often, yes. Honestly it's probably because with the male eyes they could focus 100% on the question and answer easily, but with the female eyes they were distracted trying to discern what the rest of the face and also body looked like so they could decide whether they would fark her or not.


so many different questions which were not even close to answered by the study
but they did show that different parts of the brain were lit up, which is a start

the study needed to include gay and lesbians to help get even more of a picture

wambu: Women only have two emotions: pissed of and not-quite-so pissed off.


You left out: They want something and vulnerable (which is probably part of "want something")
LOL
 
2013-04-15 11:41:33 AM  

WhippingBoy: Because cutting off a Patriarchal Oppressor's penis while he sleeps is not considered a crime and if you say it is you hate women.


You sound irrational and downright hysterical.
 
2013-04-15 11:43:54 AM  
This is getting kinda ugly. I'm just laughing at some of the idiosyncrasies between the sexes, which we have obviously blown out of proportion.
 
2013-04-15 12:05:35 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Altair: Ghastly: "I'm fine." = I'm so pissed I could rip your balls off and shove them down your food hole.
"Do whatever you want." = There's only one appropriate thing you should do right now, but I'm not going to tell you what it is. However here's a hint, it is not whatever it is YOU want to do.

farking truth.

This is the shiat that comes from choosing your female companionship based on farkability points and not on whether you actually like her.  If you would like a word from the wise, from the other side of the fence... any woman can be absolute hell on wheels in bed, with the right encouragement.  Get to know her first, be sure you like her out of bed.  Then you avoid paying for poon with the other 23.75 hours of the day being a sheer misery of whining and manipulation.


I'm truly amazed at the bs some guys will put up with to get laid.
 
2013-04-15 12:14:18 PM  

SpaceBison: [officeforward.com image 406x1023]


I use "humble submission" to get what I want.

Me: "hooooneey can you get me my nail polish from the top shelf? I can't reach."

Him: "I'm busy playing God of War. Get the stool and get it yourself".

Me: "Pllleaasse????" *humble submission*

Him: "Okay fine. I'll get it".

Works like a charm. I figured it out when I was about 20 - I can get pretty much anything from any guy so long as I give him that look. It's super powerful.
 
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