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2013-04-15 10:31:16 AM  
They just probably wanted an RV but did not want to be lumped in with retirees and RV owners. So they made one that looks like a house. But we all really know what this is - it's a mobile home. Next stop is Shiny Pines Trailer Park.
 
2013-04-15 10:40:47 AM  
They're going to buy land in (most likely outside the city limits) Santa Fe? They'd better have deep pockets, that shiat's expensive. Not to mention they'll need water (there are places in this state where, no matter how deep you drill, there is NO water....but you still have to pay the driller), running power can cost up to $100k a mile, septics can run $50k+ if there's rock.
 
2013-04-15 11:04:14 AM  

basemetal: At least the inlaws wont spend the night.


Shut up and take my money!
 
2013-04-15 11:19:19 AM  
Didn't Lucy and Desi do this?  It had humorous moments.

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2013-04-15 11:23:46 AM  

C0rf: How 'bout the aquatic version? My folks (65 and 63) retired a couple years ago to spend 3 months every year on a boat. In Western Europe. Just about 180 square feet, I believe.

When someplace gets boring, float another dozen km down a canal to a different little town. They LOVE it.

[oi49.tinypic.com image 800x255]


Those are pretty neat. I stayed in one for three weeks back in the 90s when I was in the UK. I spent far more on alcohol than on the rental. I would say one thing about living on a boat. Don't do it. Sure, a vacation rental is fun, but there is a reason that people say that a boat is a hole in the water in which you pour money.
 
2013-04-15 11:24:15 AM  

C0rf: When someplace gets boring, float another dozen km down a canal to a different little town. They LOVE it.


I've wanted to take a european vacation in one of those for ages, or at least since I spent some time in Cambridge UK and saw the things all the time.  How much does mooring set you back?  Have your folks ever had problems with breakins?  How do sewage and electric work?  Is there anywhere in the US where they do that canal thing so I could try it out with lower consequences?

/genuinely curious
 
2013-04-15 11:27:47 AM  

Summer Glau's Love Slave: And do you know who else had a tiny, DIY home?

/That's right.
//Helen Keller.
///I loved her book.


You know, she would have been a Belieber...
 
2013-04-15 11:29:34 AM  
Thats awesome.  Who would have thought that moving into a house that had 1/6 the number of bedrooms would have 1/6 the amount of housing expense.

What this article doesnt mention is the amount of gas and bar costs you go through every month because you no longer have a room in your house you can go to get away from your cohabitant.
 
2013-04-15 11:34:11 AM  

DeepDownHounds: If I knew you in real life, I would have punched your lights out many times over. I love to silence bigmouth idiots like you. Now it's your turn to threaten me with a gun because you're one of those idiots. Take it away.....


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

texan?  Check

Quick to violent outburst even though the situation doesn't remotely call for it (wait, that's just a texan all over again) double check.

And for the best part, from your own profile "I've mellowed considerably. I can't be bothered. "

Too farking funny.
 
2013-04-15 11:37:22 AM  

Fano: I'm pretty sure I could buy a shed of equal size from Home Depot and live in it, saving thousands that they charge for their brilliant advice.


Of course you can   999$ installed.  Buy two rolls of fiberglass while you are at HD and some sheet rock and you are done.  With the savings instead of buying the house, you invest the 45k and pay yourself 200 a month, which will pay for the utilities.  Now you live at no cost.

When its time to upgrade, you can just buy a larger shed at HD and repeat.  You will also now have a nice shed for all your extra stuff

Spend a couple extra dollars for this multi level castle, instead of the sheds that paupers buy at Home Depot.
 
2013-04-15 11:43:37 AM  

redsquid: Do any of these people have hobbies? If he's a contractor where are his tools? If your house is too small there's a diminishing return. There's no storage so there's no savings buying in bulk. You don't have room to store tools so you have to hire out for repairs and maintenance. Storage limitations also mean that items can't be stored for reuse or recycling. It may be great if you're a consumer with a passive home life, but for people with hobbies or home based businesses, it's a nightmare.


Well, to be fair.. if your AC blows, instead of paying $5000 for a house AC, you just push it out the window and go
get another $99 unit at Home Depot.

I think you would be hard pressed to have this AND a woman.  You would have to have one that was goal seeking and wanted to save every dime until she sees 100k in the bank.  I cant get mine to stop buying stuff, simply because there is currently money in her bank account.   Save for a rainy day ?!?!  HAHAHA  Thats why she has me.!
 
2013-04-15 12:02:05 PM  
I did not read all of the comments (who has time), so if I have repeated something, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0!

First off the first two pictures don't look like they came from the same house/trailer?
Second, WHO WOULD PUT A DOG KENNEL IN THE SAME PLACE YOU KEEP YOUR CLOTHING?
 
2013-04-15 12:02:52 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-15 12:05:31 PM  

JohnCarter: Didn't Lucy and Desi do this?  It had humorous moments.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 350x241]


LOL that was the best bit they did.
 
2013-04-15 12:29:10 PM  

Lumpmoose: I think your parents have retirement figured out.


I'll say. In Alphen aan den Rijn they could park closer to the bar than the cars could:

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madgonad: Those are pretty neat. I stayed in one for three weeks back in the 90s when I was in the UK. I spent far more on alcohol than on the rental. I would say one thing about living on a boat. Don't do it. Sure, a vacation rental is fun, but there is a reason that people say that a boat is a hole in the water in which you pour money.


Yeah,  my ex-rocket scientist pop has taken up diesel engine repair.

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fireclown: I've wanted to take a european vacation in one of those for ages, or at least since I spent some time in Cambridge UK and saw the things all the time.  How much does mooring set you back?  Have your folks ever had problems with breakins?  How do sewage and electric work?  Is there anywhere in the US where they do that canal thing so I could try it out with lower consequences?

/genuinely curious


Small towns with no electrical hookups, oftentimes it's free. The middle of Amsterdam or the Arsenal in Paris, I hope you brought your wheelbarrow full of euros. Break-ins, no -- but once somebody slipped their mooring lines in the middle of the night. Police were helpful and sympathetic, chalked it up to drunk teenagers. Electric is solar + engine/alternator + batteries + whatever the berth might provide. I don't know anything about it in the US, but this might be a good place to start.
 
2013-04-15 12:29:24 PM  

C0rf: How 'bout the aquatic version? My folks (65 and 63) retired a couple years ago to spend 3 months every year on a boat. In Western Europe. Just about 180 square feet, I believe.

When someplace gets boring, float another dozen km down a canal to a different little town. They LOVE it.

[oi49.tinypic.com image 800x255]


Yep, for about the same price as they're selling their "tiny home" - I live in this most weekends. It has a 2kw inverter + solar panel, propane heater (the same model the couple used in their tiny home) - two 'bedrooms,' can sleep up to six - plus it requires almost zero fuel to get around; 0.5 gph of diesel at a 6 knt cruising speed, or simply use the sails:
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
Since she's 10 years old and already depreciated when I bought her, I'm sure it'll have a much better investment/loss when compared to a janky, homebuilt 5th wheel.

For $35 a night, the view I had from the back of my boat last weekend was pretty tough to beat:
sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net
For the cost of a $128 annual State Park mooring permit, where I can get fresh water and pump out sewage, I could live in a new, and spectacular place for about $0.35 a day for "rent." Throw in our region's Clearwire WiMax coverage, and I have myself a pretty comfy mobile office.

And just cause I feel like it, here's a shot I snapped on the last 4th of July. The view of shoreside fireworks + Mt. Rainier + being the only one at a "private" island state park = full of win.
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
/just bought myself 1/2 acre of waterfront property on Vashon island for dirt cheap, so I can place a mooring buoy and spend most of my time there during the summer.
 
2013-04-15 12:34:35 PM  

Frantic Freddie: They're going to buy land in (most likely outside the city limits) Santa Fe? They'd better have deep pockets, that shiat's expensive. Not to mention they'll need water (there are places in this state where, no matter how deep you drill, there is NO water....but you still have to pay the driller), running power can cost up to $100k a mile, septics can run $50k+ if there's rock.


They don't need to drill for water, they can collect rain water. And why do they need to run power? They can get solar panels. And why would they need septic when they can shiat on the ground? Don't try to force conformity on them!
 
2013-04-15 12:56:58 PM  
"After Shane lost his home to the banking crisis, the couple wanted a way to become financially independent."

You know, I'm no friend of the banks, but I don't think the crisis "caused" this guy to lose his house. He over-paid and over-extended himself to buy too much house, buying more house than he could afford. Sure, the banks are complicit in encouraging him to do it, but you can't say the crisis caused them to take his house. He stopped being able to pay for it (or just stopped paying for it and let the bank eat the loss), that's why he lost it.
 
2013-04-15 12:57:19 PM  
Those Japanese "Micro-homes" are a little cooler,  with multiple levels all on lots of 300, 400 square feet.
Google it.

The difference is those are permanent structures.

Always been interested in how small an area people can live in.  In Hong Kong, it's not at all uncommon to have a family of 4 in a unit of 750 square feet (with one bathroom, 2 very small bedrooms).   I've seen it.  Not much on privacy. On the otherhand, Hong Kongers tend to be smaller folks, used to smaller quarters, don't hoard as much stuff as Americans (how can they?) and are often way too busy to be at home.  For most Americans, it would be a recipe for going nuts.
 
2013-04-15 01:07:48 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Those Japanese "Micro-homes" are a little cooler,  with multiple levels all on lots of 300, 400 square feet.
Google it.

The difference is those are permanent structures.

Always been interested in how small an area people can live in.  In Hong Kong, it's not at all uncommon to have a family of 4 in a unit of 750 square feet (with one bathroom, 2 very small bedrooms).   I've seen it.  Not much on privacy. On the otherhand, Hong Kongers tend to be smaller folks, used to smaller quarters, don't hoard as much stuff as Americans (how can they?) and are often way too busy to be at home.  For most Americans, it would be a recipe for going nuts.


Large cities have been doing this with micro-apartments for some time in the U.S.
 
2013-04-15 01:10:11 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Always been interested in how small an area people can live in. In Hong Kong, it's not at all uncommon to have a family of 4 in a unit of 750 square feet (with one bathroom, 2 very small bedrooms). I've seen it. Not much on privacy. On the otherhand, Hong Kongers tend to be smaller folks, used to smaller quarters, don't hoard as much stuff as Americans (how can they?) and are often way too busy to be at home. For most Americans, it would be a recipe for going nuts.


They're not doing anything that's new. Most Americans lived that way 60 years ago.

The average size of an American home in the 1950's:
Occupants = 3.7 people
Square footage = 983 sq.ft.

The Average size of the an American home in 2006:
Occupants = 2.6 people
Square footage = 2,349 sq.ft.

In ~50 years, Americans have reduced the average number of people in the house by 1/3rd, and increased square footage by 240%

/sources - Square footage - Occupants
 
2013-04-15 01:38:03 PM  
It almost seems like they're pricing their awesome invention that high just so no one would actually buy one.

If I didn't end up meeting my wife, I'd probably would have gone the RV route. Last job had a massive parking lot that was unused. I would have tried to live back there during the week and hit up some camp grounds for the weekend so I can dump my shiat and refill the water tanks.

Don't know how long I could have kept that up since I like to tinker more than I like to travel. I'd love to give traveling across the US a try, but people on the road drive me crazy at times.

/Was it really necessary for you to make a right turn from the far left lane?
 
2013-04-15 02:00:53 PM  

distopianDream: indarwinsshadow: Great idea. I'm in the process of building a tiny house (that's what they're called, you can purchase plans from tumbleweed houses) on a trailer so I can transport this to and from the lake and I'm selling the cottage. I found out that anything under 800 sq ft you don't have to pay property tax on, just simple land tax. My wife and I are seriously considering getting rid of the house in the next few years and down sizing to one of these.

[cdn.shopify.com image 600x450]

770 sq ft beauty.

I love the small tumbleweed homes.  I am in the process of buying a 850 square/2 bedroom house and I am so excited to downsize.  Of course, I am only downsizing by 150 square feet.  The house comes with a small yard and 2 small garden plots.  I still dream of building a 650 square foot Tumbleweed in the country but I'll wait until my sons out of the house for that.


do you need to at least own some land to park this thing in? what about plumbing, electric etc?
 
2013-04-15 02:17:59 PM  
Why is wanting to live with a smaller mortgage and be able to pick and move at any time smug?
 
2013-04-15 02:26:02 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: distopianDream: indarwinsshadow: Great idea. I'm in the process of building a tiny house (that's what they're called, you can purchase plans from tumbleweed houses) on a trailer so I can transport this to and from the lake and I'm selling the cottage. I found out that anything under 800 sq ft you don't have to pay property tax on, just simple land tax. My wife and I are seriously considering getting rid of the house in the next few years and down sizing to one of these.

[cdn.shopify.com image 600x450]

770 sq ft beauty.

I love the small tumbleweed homes.  I am in the process of buying a 850 square/2 bedroom house and I am so excited to downsize.  Of course, I am only downsizing by 150 square feet.  The house comes with a small yard and 2 small garden plots.  I still dream of building a 650 square foot Tumbleweed in the country but I'll wait until my sons out of the house for that.

do you need to at least own some land to park this thing in? what about plumbing, electric etc?


They have small homes non-movable homes as well as the trailer type homes. So, I'd just hook up to whatever is available.
 
2013-04-15 02:30:18 PM  

MrSteve007: C0rf: How 'bout the aquatic version? My folks (65 and 63) retired a couple years ago to spend 3 months every year on a boat. In Western Europe. Just about 180 square feet, I believe.

When someplace gets boring, float another dozen km down a canal to a different little town. They LOVE it.

[oi49.tinypic.com image 800x255]

Yep, for about the same price as they're selling their "tiny home" - I live in this most weekends. It has a 2kw inverter + solar panel, propane heater (the same model the couple used in their tiny home) - two 'bedrooms,' can sleep up to six - plus it requires almost zero fuel to get around; 0.5 gph of diesel at a 6 knt cruising speed, or simply use the sails:
[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x637]
Since she's 10 years old and already depreciated when I bought her, I'm sure it'll have a much better investment/loss when compared to a janky, homebuilt 5th wheel.

For $35 a night, the view I had from the back of my boat last weekend was pretty tough to beat:
[sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x478]
For the cost of a $128 annual State Park mooring permit, where I can get fresh water and pump out sewage, I could live in a new, and spectacular place for about $0.35 a day for "rent." Throw in our region's Clearwire WiMax coverage, and I have myself a pretty comfy mobile office.

And just cause I feel like it, here's a shot I snapped on the last 4th of July. The view of shoreside fireworks + Mt. Rainier + being the only one at a "private" island state park = full of win.
[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x517]
/just bought myself 1/2 acre of waterfront property on Vashon island for dirt cheap, so I can place a mooring buoy and spend most of my time there during the summer.


Very nice until a big storm or hurricane hits then you're SOL.
 
2013-04-15 02:44:22 PM  

planes: [www.mytripjournal.com image 643x480]

They've already invented these things, they're called motorhomes. Here is my 240 square feet.


Aren't mobile homes like crazy expensive?  What did that run you, half a mill?
 
2013-04-15 02:58:16 PM  

redsquid: Do any of these people have hobbies?


I could do this-I could live in an incredibly small space and be comfortable because I like being outdoors.  Since it would force me outdoors I would prolly do more; rafting, camping, gardening, fishing, building stuff , mountain biking, hunting , target shooting and motorcycling.

Except I wouldn't. because I would not want to go to storage everytime I wanted to do something, there would be no place to maintain this stuff or get ready the night before, have no space to grow or work on anything....I just couldn't imaging limiting your life to the degree this would take.  More often than not there is a raft inflated or a tent set up somewhere in the house, and it is modest in size by all standards.

I'm assuming their hobbies revolve around an xbox and a kindle?


/Now If I had a little 1/4 ac lot, with a micro-house and a 600 sf garage...I would be ok.
 
2013-04-15 03:10:00 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x193]


I drive a hybrid. It was used and I don't have spend $500 a month on gas.  I got it because it's economical.  I likes having a low car payment and not spend so much on gas.  Smug you think?
 
2013-04-15 03:31:14 PM  
ongbok

Frantic Freddie: They're going to buy land in (most likely outside the city limits) Santa Fe? They'd better have deep pockets, that shiat's expensive. Not to mention they'll need water (there are places in this state where, no matter how deep you drill, there is NO water....but you still have to pay the driller), running power can cost up to $100k a mile, septics can run $50k+ if there's rock.

They don't need to drill for water, they can collect rain water. And why do they need to run power? They can get solar panels. And why would they need septic when they can shiat on the ground? Don't try to force conformity on them!


LOL
Hell, it's New Mexico, we ain't got rainwater :D Though solar works fine here with our 240+ sunny days a year.
It's legal in some areas to have an outhouse, but they might need dynamite to dig the pit.
 
2013-04-15 04:28:36 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Meh i dont know about a married couple. Single person would be quite comfortable in it.
till you try to bring a date home


 img.rp.vhd.me
 
2013-04-15 05:09:33 PM  
My hubby, roommate, and I just recently moved into a much smaller place and it's been great on the wallet and has finally put a fire under our asses to get rid of our crap.

We still have plenty of room to do what we want. We're still working out all the kinks and rearranging things to optimize it better but so far so good.

I'd rather have a large yard instead of a large house, it seems that all the houses built these days are huge McMansions on postage lots.

I'd rather have a patio and a garden.
 
2013-04-15 05:20:33 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: Very nice until a big storm or hurricane hits then you're SOL.


By that logic, homes are nice - until an earthquake or tornado hits, then you're SOL.

The nice thing about boats and storms; storms are predicted days in advance and boats are mobile. Up here in the Pacific NW, hurricane force winds happen on an annual basis. Unless someone is dumb enough to be out in open water during a storm, you're not going to have any trouble. Marinas are typically in coves that are completely protected from the wind and waves of a storm.

I have two harbors within a few miles that are termed "hurricane holes," since they're immune from any storm.
Quartermaster harbor's geography blocks wind and waves from all directions - deep inside the harbor is calm as a lake in any sized storm:
mylocalhealthguide.com

The area of Gig Harbor is also a ridiculously safe area to anchor in a storm, as its entrance is only 50-60 feet wide, and protected by a spit. The harbor is very secure by the surrounding hills.
subject2inspection.com
You can go about every 10-15 miles in the Puget Sound and find similar places to hide out from a storm. Unless you're in a geographically flat place, like Florida - hiding a boat from a storm isn't all that difficult.
 
2013-04-15 05:54:10 PM  
ongbok:
And there's the reason why they are living in that home.

I have a feeling they spend a lot of time in their 4000 square foot fully furnished "Garage".
 
2013-04-15 06:48:11 PM  
What's to be smug about? Our house is paid off, and a damn sight bigger than the mini-trailer they're living in, but you don't see news teams vying for exclusive news coverage at our place. Come back when they get the tires and tow-hitch on that thing paid off, and maybe when they go totally solar and cut their utility expenses in half.

Maybe then it'll be worthy of fifteen minutes of someone's time.
 
2013-04-16 08:11:35 AM  

Caffandtranqs: Jon iz teh kewl: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x193]

I drive a hybrid. It was used and I don't have spend $500 a month on gas.  I got it because it's economical.  I likes having a low car payment and not spend so much on gas.  Smug you think?


southparkstudios-intl.mtvnimages.com
 
2013-04-16 09:47:19 AM  

JerkStore: "After Shane lost his home to the banking crisis, the couple wanted a way to become financially independent."

You know, I'm no friend of the banks, but I don't think the crisis "caused" this guy to lose his house. He over-paid and over-extended himself to buy too much house, buying more house than he could afford. Sure, the banks are complicit in encouraging him to do it, but you can't say the crisis caused them to take his house. He stopped being able to pay for it (or just stopped paying for it and let the bank eat the loss), that's why he lost it.


Its entirely possible that he lost it because of the crisis.  Perhaps he purchased a 5 year arm and the bank was all loosey goosey with qualifications and down payment.   Now, years later, he might still be making the same money, same job same situation, and now the bank wont refinance because he now does not qualify.
 
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