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2013-04-15 04:52:06 AM  

ChemicalChance: I really don't understand the hate. My husband and I could do that easily. It has a kitchen, a bedroom, and a living room. They live in a warm climate. We'd have to have a storage unit for some of my books and some of his instruments. But seriously - you can cook/eat, have sex, engage in most individual hobbies as well as do things like play chess, and have electronic entertainment. Childless couples do not need any more than that. People all over the world live in close quarters with far fewer creature comforts than that. Perhaps their design isn't the most judicious use of money/space, but the concept is good.

That said, I don't think the unit cost them 48,000; I think that's what they're charging. Which is wishful thinking.


I'm attracted to the concept myself(though not really their implementation of it). I'm generally a freelancer/independent contractor. I could go where the good contract is, and not feel bound to some kind of life changing across country move. Currently have a disabled parent who lives with me in a "Frasier" style situation though, so it's mostly just a wistful, impractical fantasy, heh.
 
2013-04-15 04:52:47 AM  
For $48,000 you can buy 3 houses here in the city of Cleveland and still have enough money left over to replace all of the copper pipe and aluminum siding that's been stolen and sold for scrap.

(disclaimer: I kinda stole that bit from Mike Polk Jr.)
 
2013-04-15 04:58:30 AM  

Froggy: For $48,000 you can buy 3 houses here in the city of Cleveland and still have enough money left over to replace all of the copper pipe and aluminum siding that's been stolen and sold for scrap.

(disclaimer: I kinda stole that bit from Mike Polk Jr.)


Yeah, but then you have to live in Cleveland.

/Melt is damn good food
//and Christmas Ale is lovely
 
2013-04-15 05:17:11 AM  
For those critical of the price they are selling for their customised homes...

Tiny Home = $15,000
Smug Infusion = $33,000

Seems fair.
 
2013-04-15 05:22:00 AM  
They've gone from paying $1,500 monthly mortgage to $350 a month INCLUDING utilities
So, they moved to 1997?
 
2013-04-15 05:26:13 AM  

neongoats: I mean, I get the criticism of the craftsmanship, not the criticism of the life choice. That being: "living someplace small and cheap and less materialistically". They are young newlyweds in the young newlywed job market, I would think most farkers would consider it wise to live frugally.

Don't be jelly that you fell for the Bush Era job market and patriotically got suckered into a mortgage 3x as big as your house was worth, and then spend the rest of your life hating people that chose to live within their means.

My guess is that a few years of this, a few years of saving, and a few years of stable jobs will simply have them buy a plot of land nearby to plant their little tiny house on. And then they'll build a cabin or something. And probably have kids. And be just like everyone else, and all the "dirty hipster.. nyah!" whiners will feel dumb.


No they won't.  You can't fix stupid.

Lots more smug in the thread than in that tiny house.
 
2013-04-15 05:35:13 AM  
www.mytripjournal.com

They've already invented these things, they're called motorhomes. Here is my 240 square feet.
 
2013-04-15 05:41:28 AM  
I'd say whatever they paid for their place was worth making you people loose your shiat over it...

For a bunch of boot-strappy independents, most of you seem to be happy embracing the overindulged home-a-rama houses and HOAs that come with them...

I say good on them for getting out there and doing something constructive and being happy... the rest of you can sulk in your cul-de-sac while trying to maintain a 2" tall yard and yelling at friends not to park on street or on the grass out of fear of the dictatorship you signed into so your property wouldn't become devalued by brown people...
 
2013-04-15 05:43:00 AM  
There is a two story "shed" (about 1,000 sq ft.) in the home depot parking lot that they will have a contractor build on site for $9,000 (ridiculous).  Though, after plumbing, hvac, appliances, insulation, electric meter and roadside furniture (don't look at me like that, you live in a shed) you're looking at, A FARK OF A LOT LESS THAN 50K!
 
2013-04-15 05:45:42 AM  

planes: [www.mytripjournal.com image 643x480]

They've already invented these things, they're called motorhomes. Here is my 240 square feet.


Plus you can take that baby to a different view AND get burgers whenever you like.
 
2013-04-15 05:47:43 AM  
Trouble is, when you are in that baby, everywhere you take it is NASCAR without the noise.
 
2013-04-15 05:49:15 AM  

i upped my meds-up yours: Trouble is, when you are in that baby, everywhere you take it is NASCAR without the noise.


But the vrooming noises are the best part. Are you left with only Velveeta sandwiches then?
 
2013-04-15 05:52:44 AM  

i upped my meds-up yours: Trouble is, when you are in that baby, everywhere you take it is NASCAR without the noise.


I think I know where you live, and you have my sympathies.   May NASCAR die the silent yet rapid death that boxing endured, YESTERDAY!  Before I moved here, I had no feelings either way about NASCAR.
 
2013-04-15 06:14:51 AM  
That's a pretty expensive rig they have there to pull their tiny house. I wonder how much they had to pay for that to pull their tiny house around? Otherwise, they could be driving a tiny car.
 
2013-04-15 06:15:33 AM  
CeroX:
For a bunch of boot-strappy independents, most of you seem to be happy embracing the overindulged home-a-rama houses and HOAs that come with them...

Funny - from most of the comments here, I see a lot of folks who easily come up with very non-HOA solutions that are much cheaper and better than the overindulged (though tiny) thing featured in the article.
 
2013-04-15 06:41:15 AM  
Why not just use a freight container? I've seen some that have been converted to living space and they are quite nice and well contstructed.
 
2013-04-15 06:42:02 AM  
Let's see, they met in 2009, got married some time in the last year...carry the 1...

Don't worry, Fark.  The Principle of Impending Female Sphericality says within three years she won't fit through the door any more and they'll be back in a real house.
 
2013-04-15 06:43:09 AM  
Ima go with noooo. My bedroom is bigger than that thing. Hell, my sunroom is. The cost per square foot on their POS is probably higher too.
/not doing math on tax day
 
2013-04-15 06:43:19 AM  
Unimpressed:

www.echome.co.uk
 
2013-04-15 07:15:10 AM  
That's cool and all, good for them but:

"I know what it's like to have a big house with a tremendous amount of stuff," Shane told the New York Daily News. "This culture of acquiring more is not necessarily a healthy way to live."

Why didn't you just buy a smaller house and not buy so much stuff you didn't need? It's called middle-ground
 
2013-04-15 07:15:54 AM  
It's called a caravan fark wits
 
2013-04-15 07:19:14 AM  
What is it called when one is smug regarding others' smugness? Counter-smug? Anti-smug? Double-smug?

/I am now smug about your counter-smug
//triple smug!
///smug
 
2013-04-15 07:20:02 AM  

Milo Minderbinder: What is it called when one is smug regarding others' smugness? Counter-smug? Anti-smug? Double-smug?

/I am now smug about your counter-smug
//triple smug!
///smug


Smug-ception
 
2013-04-15 07:46:32 AM  

msupf: Benevolent Misanthrope: Fano: I'm pretty sure I could buy a shed of equal size from Home Depot and live in it, saving thousands that they charge for their brilliant advice.

I honestly thought of it once.  There are some pretty nice kits out there that could be insulated appropriately, and could also be modified to travel on a trailer frame I'm sure.  I was only thinking in terms of the tiny house concept, though - and there are shed kit that would do much better than this, including a loft for sleeping and much better framing.

yup, i agree. we are looking into a loft shed for use as a cottage on some land we own in northern michigan.
Right now we have it figured at about 15k all told for the shed, placing more efficient (and extra) windows in it, insulation, putting in a bathroom, and adding a little out-building for housing utility hookups and such.
Just have to see what kind of permitting we need and what needs to be done to make it pass inspection.


That's why they're building these microhomes on wheels.  Gets around the zoning laws.  Most communities have minimum square footage requirements for permanent dwellings.  Back in the 90s, an aunt and uncle wanted to build a small house (800-900 square feet) in a new development but the minimum square footage allowed was 1500 so he put in a big basement that was just finished enough to count towards living space.
 
2013-04-15 07:54:24 AM  
My work's donw hwerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
 
2013-04-15 07:57:07 AM  
So it's a caravan?
 
2013-04-15 08:02:26 AM  
assets.nydailynews.com

I think it's the little things, like having the sink with no mirror IN the stainless steel shower, that really makes a home feel like a small prison like cell. I bet they make "wine" in the toilet too.
 
2013-04-15 08:07:05 AM  

Catlike Typist: The smug is tucked up in her uterus.  One pregnancy  FART will displace it.


FTFY
 
2013-04-15 08:08:15 AM  
So they live in the same conditions as anyone who shares a studio flat. Except that those people live that way in order to be able to afford living somewhere highly desirable such as in central London or Manhattan.

These people have chosen to make all of the sacrifice with none of the benefits. Well done.
 
2013-04-15 08:09:01 AM  

ChemicalChance: I really don't understand the hate. My husband and I could do that easily. It has a kitchen, a bedroom, and a living room. They live in a warm climate. We'd have to have a storage unit for some of my books and some of his instruments. But seriously - you can cook/eat, have sex, engage in most individual hobbies as well as do things like play chess, and have electronic entertainment. Childless couples do not need any more than that. People all over the world live in close quarters with far fewer creature comforts than that. Perhaps their design isn't the most judicious use of money/space, but the concept is good.

That said, I don't think the unit cost them 48,000; I think that's what they're charging. Which is wishful thinking.


It's not hate.  It's exasperation that people are re-inventing the wheel (badly) and it gets treated as a housing revolution.  They built tiny houses then found out that their houses don't meet local code requirements.  So they got clever and put them on wheels to get around the laws.  But we've already had tiny houses on wheels for decades and a lot of refinement has gone into their design.  All of those refinements are tossed out the window and people act like pooping in a composting toilet is a step forward for society.
 
2013-04-15 08:09:43 AM  
Great idea. I'm in the process of building a tiny house (that's what they're called, you can purchase plans from tumbleweed houses) on a trailer so I can transport this to and from the lake and I'm selling the cottage. I found out that anything under 800 sq ft you don't have to pay property tax on, just simple land tax. My wife and I are seriously considering getting rid of the house in the next few years and down sizing to one of these.

cdn.shopify.com

770 sq ft beauty.
 
2013-04-15 08:24:26 AM  
news! Arizona couple invents Trailer Trash!
 
2013-04-15 08:32:17 AM  

KrispyKritter: archichris: harlock: RottNDude: 48k can get you a luxury 5th wheel with multiple slideouts and a bathroom where you don't need to shiat in the shower.  This is just hipster  attention whoring at its finest.

Came to say this.   It's a false savings that makes no economic sense.    I can only wish I had $48k to spend on a travel trailer, I spent $9k buying a used trailer that cost $27k when new, and it's still nicer than that homebrew.    The part where it gets rough is the plumbing.    The bathroom in any 5th wheel, TT or motorhome is nicer than that one.

The fact is that the RV industry has been evolving nice products since the 1930s.   They're gotten really good at it.   You can buy cheap but nice looking stuff on the low end, and nice and nice looking stuff on the high end.   Newer trailers conform to modern energy standards and are well insulated.   They are also well laid out, plenty of storage space and very attractive inside.    This thing makes no sense from an economic or comfort standpoint unless your over-riding goal is to build it yourself.   As someone who has a full hobby machine shop in his garage, I still won't go and make what I can just go buy when the bought product is so good and so cheap compared to the effort to re-make my own.

Im selling an awesome 25' (28') travel trailer with everything you need for any weather. We've camped in sub 30 degree weather and been perfectly cozy with the heat set at 68 degrees in the camper. Wake up in the middle of the night and you dont even have to get dressed to use the bathroom, make a cup of tea, check the email on the laptop with the portable 3g hotspot......

You'd be amazed at how comfortable you can be while everyone else in the campground is huddled in a tent trying to hold the pee until morning so they dont have to get dressed in the cold and walk to the restroom. Im my case the cold people were all my relatives who insisted on tent camping (east coast liberals trying to get by on an econo-car and pu ...


Camping is about taking your kids someplace fun on a budget. And if you only had kids then a tent might work. But when you hit middle age and you have a wife, a tent just isnt going to cut it. We used to tent camp, became an expert on it. Enough of an expert to say with authority that anyone who prefers tent camping to trailer camping is a childless dooshbag who is doing it to prove a point. I hated every second of it honestly, but it was all we could afford to do.

Because you see I have this $48k water and sanitation bill on the 120 units I manage.

Which is also why a travel trailer was no big deal, its just one more unit to maintain. But thats just my profession, lots of people buy them for other reasons.

Mine is for sale if you want to be a comfortable dooshbag too.
 
2013-04-15 08:36:32 AM  
Why is this even an article? This has been the craze for over a decade now. Some of these places look absolutely awesome and it really is interesting how creative they are at using all available space. I don't think I can downsize that small yet, but eventually I'll go that way just for the property tax savings alone. Right now, most of my living is just in one room of my 3 bedroom house, so I can understand how easy it can be done with the right attitude about the situation.
 
2013-04-15 08:38:31 AM  
No thanks, I can get a three bedroom two bath home for that price around here. If I was inclined to go tiny, I could build it myself for about ten grand.
 
2013-04-15 08:42:28 AM  

indarwinsshadow: Great idea. I'm in the process of building a tiny house (that's what they're called, you can purchase plans from tumbleweed houses) on a trailer so I can transport this to and from the lake and I'm selling the cottage. I found out that anything under 800 sq ft you don't have to pay property tax on, just simple land tax. My wife and I are seriously considering getting rid of the house in the next few years and down sizing to one of these.

[cdn.shopify.com image 600x450]

770 sq ft beauty.


I love the small tumbleweed homes.  I am in the process of buying a 850 square/2 bedroom house and I am so excited to downsize.  Of course, I am only downsizing by 150 square feet.  The house comes with a small yard and 2 small garden plots.  I still dream of building a 650 square foot Tumbleweed in the country but I'll wait until my sons out of the house for that.
 
2013-04-15 08:43:03 AM  

neongoats: CujoQuarrel: So basically they built their own fifth wheel trailer instead of buying one

Yeah heh. I bet they could have refurbed a nice little airstream, or whatever those 50s shiny bullet looking ones are for half the money, and had twice the space.


But then they'd be... ya know... "trailer people."
 
2013-04-15 08:43:21 AM  

CujoQuarrel: So basically they built their own fifth wheel trailer instead of buying one


No no no, its different because, uh, you see its.....eco.....custom....(trails off into incoherence)
So would you be interested in purchasing one?
 
2013-04-15 08:51:46 AM  

neongoats: I mean, I get the criticism of the craftsmanship, not the criticism of the life choice. That being: "living someplace small and cheap and less materialistically". They are young newlyweds in the young newlywed job market, I would think most farkers would consider it wise to live frugally.

Don't be jelly that you fell for the Bush Era job market and patriotically got suckered into a mortgage 3x as big as your house was worth, and then spend the rest of your life hating people that chose to live within their means.

My guess is that a few years of this, a few years of saving, and a few years of stable jobs will simply have them buy a plot of land nearby to plant their little tiny house on. And then they'll build a cabin or something. And probably have kids. And be just like everyone else, and all the "dirty hipster.. nyah!" whiners will feel dumb.


That's a very reasonable, measured approach to take on the situation and a respectable opinion besides. Unfortunately you lost all credibility with the word "jelly".
 
2013-04-15 08:54:45 AM  
This is the only "RV" I would ever spend money on (if I had enough for it, that is...)
www.unicat.net
 
2013-04-15 09:24:56 AM  
How did they get into the news?  Self promotors..meh.

Yes, RVs and boats.  Big whoop, no story here..move along.
 
2013-04-15 09:33:01 AM  

KrispyKritter: archichris: harlock: RottNDude: 48k can get you a luxury 5th wheel with multiple slideouts and a bathroom where you don't need to shiat in the shower.  This is just hipster  attention whoring at its finest.

Came to say this.   It's a false savings that makes no economic sense.    I can only wish I had $48k to spend on a travel trailer, I spent $9k buying a used trailer that cost $27k when new, and it's still nicer than that homebrew.    The part where it gets rough is the plumbing.    The bathroom in any 5th wheel, TT or motorhome is nicer than that one.

The fact is that the RV industry has been evolving nice products since the 1930s.   They're gotten really good at it.   You can buy cheap but nice looking stuff on the low end, and nice and nice looking stuff on the high end.   Newer trailers conform to modern energy standards and are well insulated.   They are also well laid out, plenty of storage space and very attractive inside.    This thing makes no sense from an economic or comfort standpoint unless your over-riding goal is to build it yourself.   As someone who has a full hobby machine shop in his garage, I still won't go and make what I can just go buy when the bought product is so good and so cheap compared to the effort to re-make my own.

Im selling an awesome 25' (28') travel trailer with everything you need for any weather. We've camped in sub 30 degree weather and been perfectly cozy with the heat set at 68 degrees in the camper. Wake up in the middle of the night and you dont even have to get dressed to use the bathroom, make a cup of tea, check the email on the laptop with the portable 3g hotspot......

You'd be amazed at how comfortable you can be while everyone else in the campground is huddled in a tent trying to hold the pee until morning so they dont have to get dressed in the cold and walk to the restroom. Im my case the cold people were all my relatives who insisted on tent camping (east coast liberals trying to get by on an econo-car and pu ...


I've had you on my shiat list for over a year after you said something nasty to one of my posts (I have your posts titled "miserable prick" and highlighted in red), and I have never been let down when I see your highlighted posts. You are consistently the biggest butthole in most of the forums. But at least you're consistent, "dooshbag". If I knew you in real life, I would have punched your lights out many times over. I love to silence bigmouth idiots like you. Now it's your turn to threaten me with a gun because you're one of those idiots. Take it away.....
 
2013-04-15 09:51:31 AM  
Can we start calling these "tiny home" threads repeats?

The conversations are more tired than spider threads with clock spider posts.
 
2013-04-15 09:51:43 AM  
How 'bout the aquatic version? My folks (65 and 63) retired a couple years ago to spend 3 months every year on a boat. In Western Europe. Just about 180 square feet, I believe.

When someplace gets boring, float another dozen km down a canal to a different little town. They LOVE it.

oi49.tinypic.com
 
2013-04-15 09:59:37 AM  

ElizaDoolittle: http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2011-Heartland-Bighorn-3585rl-1085998 3 9

^^ That's the husband she wants rid of, photobombing the ad because he couldn't get his ass off the uncovered mattress they want you to buy for the two seconds it took to take the picture.

Do not want.


Why are the 2011 models furnished/decorated like it is 1984? Ugh.
 
2013-04-15 10:04:56 AM  

C0rf: How 'bout the aquatic version? My folks (65 and 63) retired a couple years ago to spend 3 months every year on a boat. In Western Europe. Just about 180 square feet, I believe.

When someplace gets boring, float another dozen km down a canal to a different little town. They LOVE it.

[oi49.tinypic.com image 800x255]


I think your parents have retirement figured out.
 
2013-04-15 10:04:57 AM  
Actual headline:

Cute couple selling homes at 1/6 the size of an average home for 1/3 the price.
 
2013-04-15 10:22:39 AM  
So weird to wake up to this story!

I was having a dream last night where I was confined with others in a smallish living space.

I had to poop but I was too embarrassed to because others were around.

I'm not kidding!
 
2013-04-15 10:25:55 AM  
Maybe I'm just not seeing the smug here. They built a trailer for themselves that seems reasonably comfortable, and they're living out of it. Of course they're proud of it - you or I would be too, if we did something like that.
 
2013-04-15 10:27:34 AM  
Ok, now I look at the story.  We (me, wifey, 2 year old, 2 cats) live in a 3 bedroom, 2 bath single wide on a MUCH nicer plot of land and pay a little more than they do.  They're just doing it for the smug, or living in AZ is stupid expensive.  Either way, wow.
 
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