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2013-04-15 02:21:33 AM

Betep: Meh. I lived on a sailboat for a few years. Better Babe-Magnet.


I liked the houseboat MacGuyver lived in.
 
2013-04-15 02:21:40 AM

neongoats: archichris: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: archichris: I hope they have to pay to dump their poo. My water/sanitation bills are approaching $48,0000 per year on 120 units. If they are using some sort of free black water waste dump they are stealing from the rest of us.

Ownership of a rev counter is theft from the people!

I'm pretty sure the "plumbing" in that death trap is just a PVC pipe opening down onto the street.

I just read the article, incinerating toilet.....lmao. The amount of money I would pay NOT TO HAVE TO SET FIRE TO MY POO IN MY OWN HOME is higher than he 48k they want for that thing.

Hahaha. I know, but the imagery it evokes is hilarious to me. I wonder if that's what provides the winter heat. I picture them huddling around a flaming tasty swirl shaped poo.


There is a tiny heater parked on the living room wall. Bet it makes for some amusing middle of the night arm burns.
 
2013-04-15 02:22:11 AM

harlock: RottNDude: 48k can get you a luxury 5th wheel with multiple slideouts and a bathroom where you don't need to shiat in the shower.  This is just hipster  attention whoring at its finest.

Came to say this.   It's a false savings that makes no economic sense.    I can only wish I had $48k to spend on a travel trailer, I spent $9k buying a used trailer that cost $27k when new, and it's still nicer than that homebrew.    The part where it gets rough is the plumbing.    The bathroom in any 5th wheel, TT or motorhome is nicer than that one.

The fact is that the RV industry has been evolving nice products since the 1930s.   They're gotten really good at it.   You can buy cheap but nice looking stuff on the low end, and nice and nice looking stuff on the high end.   Newer trailers conform to modern energy standards and are well insulated.   They are also well laid out, plenty of storage space and very attractive inside.    This thing makes no sense from an economic or comfort standpoint unless your over-riding goal is to build it yourself.   As someone who has a full hobby machine shop in his garage, I still won't go and make what I can just go buy when the bought product is so good and so cheap compared to the effort to re-make my own.


THIS.
Materials cost a lot these days as well.
Just a road worthy chassis, frame, wheels, axles, and towing attachments will run a few thousand.
I also own tools like a drill press, band saw, table saw, etc etc.
I also have guitars, keyboards, amps, recording equipment and a host of other amusements that I enjoy owning, and use quite often.
To me, living like that would be like giving up on life.
 
2013-04-15 02:25:06 AM
I love pictures of folks living in small spaces with impeccable design standards.

These folks are living in a very small trailer with no design standards.
 
2013-04-15 02:25:54 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Fano: I'm pretty sure I could buy a shed of equal size from Home Depot and live in it, saving thousands that they charge for their brilliant advice.

I honestly thought of it once.  There are some pretty nice kits out there that could be insulated appropriately, and could also be modified to travel on a trailer frame I'm sure.  I was only thinking in terms of the tiny house concept, though - and there are shed kit that would do much better than this, including a loft for sleeping and much better framing.


yup, i agree. we are looking into a loft shed for use as a cottage on some land we own in northern michigan.
Right now we have it figured at about 15k all told for the shed, placing more efficient (and extra) windows in it, insulation, putting in a bathroom, and adding a little out-building for housing utility hookups and such.
Just have to see what kind of permitting we need and what needs to be done to make it pass inspection.
 
2013-04-15 02:27:40 AM
This is what $48,000 can get you

2011 Bighorn 3585rl w/ 3 slide outs. 4 point auto leveling w/ hydraulic landing gear (only takes minutes to set up). Leather sofa and recliners, ceiling fan, fireplace, FM/CD/DVD player with built in iPod dock w/ surround sound (also has speakers in the bedroom), 40 LCD in living room, 19 lcd in bedroom that can also be removed and used for outside viewing, 2 a/c units, cherry glazed cabinets, double sink with spray faucet, 9cu ft refrigerator w/ ice maker, slide out pantry, convection microwave/oven, extra storage in hallway, king size bed, washer/dryer prep, and central vacuum. So many more features to mention... see last picture for full listing. Still have all the manuals for appliances and other info from original purchase. We have enjoyed every minute in this camper and have treated it with love and care. Currently have rugs in the living room and hallways to protect carpet, will convey if wanted. Feel free to contact with any questions. Available for showing if interested. 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 Laramie, possibility for sale if tow vehicle needed. $48,000.00
 
2013-04-15 02:29:28 AM

TommyymmoT: To me, living like that would be like giving up on life.


OMG hipsters are just early onset retirees! Mind blown!

I'm a part time artist , part time handy man looking to transition to full time artist doing regional festivals so a decent towable home would be awesome, but I'd need a home base with room for a shop. A 1,000 sqft steel building that I could back the whole trailer into would be ideal.
 
2013-04-15 02:31:09 AM

neongoats: Don't be jelly that you fell for the Bush Era job market and patriotically got suckered into a mortgage 3x as big as your house was worth,



"Jelly"?  Really?

You don't need to live in a ridiculously large house and drive a ridiculously large vehicle to look down on smug impracticality.
 
2013-04-15 02:32:48 AM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: This is what $48,000 can get you

2011 Bighorn 3585rl w/ 3 slide outs. 4 point auto leveling w/ hydraulic landing gear (only takes minutes to set up). Leather sofa and recliners, ceiling fan, fireplace, FM/CD/DVD player with built in iPod dock w/ surround sound (also has speakers in the bedroom), 40 LCD in living room, 19 lcd in bedroom that can also be removed and used for outside viewing, 2 a/c units, cherry glazed cabinets, double sink with spray faucet, 9cu ft refrigerator w/ ice maker, slide out pantry, convection microwave/oven, extra storage in hallway, king size bed, washer/dryer prep, and central vacuum. So many more features to mention... see last picture for full listing. Still have all the manuals for appliances and other info from original purchase. We have enjoyed every minute in this camper and have treated it with love and care. Currently have rugs in the living room and hallways to protect carpet, will convey if wanted. Feel free to contact with any questions. Available for showing if interested. 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 Laramie, possibility for sale if tow vehicle needed. $48,000.00


So, for $48k, ... tacky?
 
2013-04-15 02:34:02 AM
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Carrie Caverly uses her laptop to find a new husband while she ponders why life let her down.
 
2013-04-15 02:34:18 AM
Bloody pikies
 
2013-04-15 02:35:14 AM

ElizaDoolittle: So, for $48k, ... tacky?


well, yeah, but totally loaded with every possible creature comfort you could ever want, and a few you didn't know you wanted. Hell, until I looked at that ad, I had no idea that you could get a sleep number sofa bed.
 
2013-04-15 02:38:57 AM
If they're living in AZ & NM (and not the high elevations where there's snow) why would they opt for a pitched roof? A flat roof would make more sense.

And they need to get some solar panels.
 
2013-04-15 02:40:08 AM

burghboy: You don't need to live in a ridiculously large house and drive a ridiculously large vehicle to look down on smug impracticality.


impractical for you. Seems like they make it work for them. *shrug*

Not sure where you got from out of the article though. Although admittedly I feel pretty smug myself when I get a tiny utility bill.
 
2013-04-15 02:42:06 AM
Pfffft!

I live in the box my flat screen TV came in.

I hid it under the neighbors house and nobody knows....

.... just me and my phone, posting on Fark.....all day long.....
 
2013-04-15 02:42:10 AM
And do you know who else had a tiny, DIY home?

/That's right.
//Helen Keller.
///I loved her book.
 
2013-04-15 02:45:07 AM

archichris: harlock: RottNDude: 48k can get you a luxury 5th wheel with multiple slideouts and a bathroom where you don't need to shiat in the shower.  This is just hipster  attention whoring at its finest.

Came to say this.   It's a false savings that makes no economic sense.    I can only wish I had $48k to spend on a travel trailer, I spent $9k buying a used trailer that cost $27k when new, and it's still nicer than that homebrew.    The part where it gets rough is the plumbing.    The bathroom in any 5th wheel, TT or motorhome is nicer than that one.

The fact is that the RV industry has been evolving nice products since the 1930s.   They're gotten really good at it.   You can buy cheap but nice looking stuff on the low end, and nice and nice looking stuff on the high end.   Newer trailers conform to modern energy standards and are well insulated.   They are also well laid out, plenty of storage space and very attractive inside.    This thing makes no sense from an economic or comfort standpoint unless your over-riding goal is to build it yourself.   As someone who has a full hobby machine shop in his garage, I still won't go and make what I can just go buy when the bought product is so good and so cheap compared to the effort to re-make my own.

Im selling an awesome 25' (28') travel trailer with everything you need for any weather. We've camped in sub 30 degree weather and been perfectly cozy with the heat set at 68 degrees in the camper. Wake up in the middle of the night and you dont even have to get dressed to use the bathroom, make a cup of tea, check the email on the laptop with the portable 3g hotspot......

You'd be amazed at how comfortable you can be while everyone else in the campground is huddled in a tent trying to hold the pee until morning so they dont have to get dressed in the cold and walk to the restroom. Im my case the cold people were all my relatives who insisted on tent camping (east coast liberals trying to get by on an econo-car and public transpo ...


what you do has nothing to do with camping. you're well aware of that but enjoy bragging about how wonderful your life is. to people who don't know you and could care less. you've pretty well redefined dooshbag. "My water/sanitation bills are approaching $48,0000 per year on 120 units." Dooshbag.
 
2013-04-15 02:48:11 AM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: RottNDude: 48k can get you a luxury 5th wheel with multiple slideouts and a bathroom where you don't need to shiat in the shower.  This is just hipster  attention whoring at its finest.

Sh*t, RVTrader.com has a good amount of used 5th wheelers, bigger better and nicer than this wheeled cabin, for under ten grand. This is just a couple who wanted to prove they could live cheaper by spending 4, 5 times what they could have. I am whelmed by their story.


Don't forget $30k for a good truck, like an F-350. And the cost of fuel for moving around.

Next hipster thing: converted school busses. Actually, those have a bunch of CNG mods.
 
2013-04-15 02:48:27 AM

neongoats: burghboy: You don't need to live in a ridiculously large house and drive a ridiculously large vehicle to look down on smug impracticality.

impractical for you. Seems like they make it work for them. *shrug*

Not sure where you got from out of the article though. Although admittedly I feel pretty smug myself when I get a tiny utility bill.


" Their goal is to eventually build an off-the-grid house on their own plot of land and use their tiny home as a studio"

Yeah, it's so practical for them they're planning on building a house and using their current shanty as a studio.
 
2013-04-15 02:48:41 AM
When the house is a-rockin'
Don't come a-knockin'
 
2013-04-15 02:50:53 AM
I dream of owning a piece of land outside of los angeles, just maybe about an acre or so. a small cabin, and a hand pump well.
 
2013-04-15 02:50:56 AM
 
2013-04-15 02:53:12 AM
I would be happy with about 750 square feet, on a foundation, with lath and plaster walls, a bathtub, and a tiny bit of land for a yard, small garden, etc. Add a basement that I could use for loud music without disturbing neighbors, and I'd never want to move again (assuming the neighborhood doen't turn to shiat).  I don't ever want to live in a trailer, or anyplace smaller than the tiny studio where I live now for that matter...
 
2013-04-15 02:54:08 AM
Great noodley appendage! Their blog/website is sad, do not go look at it, even for laughs.

Then again, maybe go to it and troll them for their ripping others off with their inefficient $48k floor plan
 
2013-04-15 02:55:10 AM

SpdrJay: Pfffft!

I live in the box my flat screen TV came in.

I hid it under the neighbors house and nobody knows....

.... just me and my phone, posting on Fark.....all day long.....


Hey, I told you to go with a CRT instead of a flat screen, but did you listen?
You could have had a guest room.
 
2013-04-15 02:59:25 AM
But where is Bubbles?
 
2013-04-15 03:00:42 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: " Their goal is to eventually build an off-the-grid house on their own plot of land and use their tiny home as a studio"

Yeah, it's so practical for them they're planning on building a house and using their current shanty as a studio.


And that's impractical? You mean, they have an idea in their head of a time where they might want to settle down, but aren't quite there yet, so they'll live on the cheap until they find where they want to stay.

Odd, that strikes me as practical if you are young enough and unsettled enough to want to spend a few years exploring the US before settling down.
 
2013-04-15 03:01:46 AM

TommyymmoT: SpdrJay: Pfffft!

I live in the box my flat screen TV came in.

I hid it under the neighbors house and nobody knows....

.... just me and my phone, posting on Fark.....all day long.....

Hey, I told you to go with a CRT instead of a flat screen, but did you listen?
You could have had a guest room.


But the CRT can double as a space heater!
 
2013-04-15 03:03:19 AM

neongoats: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: " Their goal is to eventually build an off-the-grid house on their own plot of land and use their tiny home as a studio"

Yeah, it's so practical for them they're planning on building a house and using their current shanty as a studio.

And that's impractical? You mean, they have an idea in their head of a time where they might want to settle down, but aren't quite there yet, so they'll live on the cheap until they find where they want to stay.

Odd, that strikes me as practical if you are young enough and unsettled enough to want to spend a few years exploring the US before settling down.


Are these friends of yours? I'm just going by the info in the article, you seem to have some inside info I'm not privy to.
 
2013-04-15 03:09:14 AM

harlock: redsquid: Do any of these people have hobbies? If he's a contractor where are his tools? If your house is too small there's a diminishing return. There's no storage so there's no savings buying in bulk. You don't have room to store tools so you have to hire out for repairs and maintenance. Storage limitations also mean that items can't be stored for reuse or recycling. It may be great if you're a consumer with a passive home life, but for people with hobbies or home based businesses, it's a nightmare.

Yep, basically the hipster life style.  That's the one constant I've noticed between all these people, they don't DO things other than sit on their laptop drinking a mocha in their spare time.   And a lot of them try to force that extreme minimalist urban lifestyle on everyone.


She's a writer with a special blog. That's how they live now-her  blogging. That $130/year for utilities can almost be covered by their blog revenue, just as long as Mom & Dad help out with the other $128.74.
 
2013-04-15 03:12:10 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: neongoats: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: " Their goal is to eventually build an off-the-grid house on their own plot of land and use their tiny home as a studio"

Yeah, it's so practical for them they're planning on building a house and using their current shanty as a studio.

And that's impractical? You mean, they have an idea in their head of a time where they might want to settle down, but aren't quite there yet, so they'll live on the cheap until they find where they want to stay.

Odd, that strikes me as practical if you are young enough and unsettled enough to want to spend a few years exploring the US before settling down.

Are these friends of yours? I'm just going by the info in the article, you seem to have some inside info I'm not privy to.


How so? I was responding to your copypasta of part of the article.

They ultimately want to find a place to build a cabin and live even more off the grid. They'll use their tow shanty as a studio or something.

What inside info is this? You mean my inference that they are a young couple? Well, the pictures aren't that high res, but they certainly don't look old or middle aged. That they want to travel and see some of the US? I think putting your f'ing house on a trailer is pretty indicative of that. They drive a big pickup truck.

Sorry, just don't see "hipster" in there, but I'm admittedly not going to google their blog and stalk their lives.
 
2013-04-15 03:13:30 AM

SilentStrider: Hey, if they can pull it off, more power to them.


THIS.

And F subtard.
 
2013-04-15 03:29:05 AM
http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2011-Heartland-Bighorn-3585rl-1085998 3 9

^^ That's the husband she wants rid of, photobombing the ad because he couldn't get his ass off the uncovered mattress they want you to buy for the two seconds it took to take the picture.

Do not want.
 
2013-04-15 03:33:08 AM

ElizaDoolittle: http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2011-Heartland-Bighorn-3585rl-1085998 3 9

^^ That's the husband she wants rid of, photobombing the ad because he couldn't get his ass off the uncovered mattress they want you to buy for the two seconds it took to take the picture.

Do not want.


I like that kitchen.
 
2013-04-15 03:34:03 AM

neongoats: burghboy: You don't need to live in a ridiculously large house and drive a ridiculously large vehicle to look down on smug impracticality.

impractical for you. Seems like they make it work for them. *shrug*

Not sure where you got from out of the article though. Although admittedly I feel pretty smug myself when I get a tiny utility bill.


Impractical = building their own POS when they could have gotten something much, much nicer for the same amount of money, as pointed out by several others.  But buying a travel trailer is so "establishment" and Bush Era.  If I make it myself, somehow that makes me superior.
 
2013-04-15 03:39:57 AM
What's the point of having the sliding glass door right next to the regular door?
 
2013-04-15 03:48:33 AM

burghboy: But buying a travel trailer is so "establishment" and Bush Era.  If I make it myself, somehow that makes me superior.


That's the dumbest shiat ever. If you thought you saw a faded yellow "support our troops" sticker on the back of their giant pickup, you would probably call them bootstrappy pioneers, giving up many of the trappings of the liberal system to live a simpler, more fiscally conservative existence.

But no, someone used the most meaningless label word of the 21st century on them, so they are obviously useless gypsies that are going to steal your children and do a shiatty mending job on your pots. Can someone want to live in a different style than you without being labeled as smug?
 
2013-04-15 03:49:09 AM

DigitalCoffee: What's the point of having the sliding glass door right next to the regular door?


Cat needs something to run into. That's entertainment for po folks.
 
2013-04-15 03:49:47 AM
I saw those things when they first came out a couple of years ago.

The one's I saw looked like tiny cabins and they uses smaller strips of wood. There was a tiny wood burning stove in each and both had covered 'front' porches.

They were so cool!

I fantasize about going out of state to someplace like Georgia or Kentucky, finding several acres of nice, wooded not Florida flat, land and putting a couple of those cabins there. I could join them with an enclosed passage, doors at both ends, for myself or guests. (That way, there'd be privacy and limited crowding, plus weather protection when going back and forth.)

I could set them on cement slabs and anchor them in place. A nearby stream or well would provide water. A generator and/or solar power would produce electricity. During the cold winters, that little wood burning stove would be magnificent.

I could sit inside or on the porch and enjoy the solitude and beauty of nature. No more cars and noisy cycles blasting by every couple of minutes, no more Saturdays of 7:00 am roars of string trimmers, lawn mowers, circular saws, hammers and boat motors.

To get the same peace here in Florida I'd have to buy nearly 25 acres -- at $20,000 an acre. Then I'd have to put up with the yearly hurricanes and high property taxes.

A cabin in the woods even as a vacation home would be wonderful. I might even see swarms of fireflies again -- something which no longer happens in my heavily developed area. I could walk for hours in wild woods without palmettos, visit lakes and streams that aren't infested with gators, see trees that aren't just pine and oak.

And rocks. Real boulders poking out of the ground. Maybe search the creeks for gemstones.

Maybe Colorful butterflies and great clouds of Dragonflies again. You don't find them around here that much anymore.

Just people. Stinking, noisy, nosey people.

If necessary, I could buy one of those big, prefab sheds to store surplus stuff in. I'm not a big home craftsman, so I don't have drill presses, table saws, long work tables and walls of tools.

A tiny cabin in the wild woods.

Seems like heaven to me. Guests could come up, spend some time and go.

/(Sigh!) I can dream, can't I?
 
2013-04-15 03:50:03 AM

neongoats: burghboy: But buying a travel trailer is so "establishment" and Bush Era.  If I make it myself, somehow that makes me superior.

That's the dumbest shiat ever. If you thought you saw a faded yellow "support our troops" sticker on the back of their giant pickup, you would probably call them bootstrappy pioneers, giving up many of the trappings of the liberal system to live a simpler, more fiscally conservative existence.

But no, someone used the most meaningless label word of the 21st century on them, so they are obviously useless gypsies that are going to steal your children and do a shiatty mending job on your pots. Can someone want to live in a different style than you without being labeled as smug?


No.
 
2013-04-15 04:09:51 AM
A bus would be better.

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2013-04-15 04:10:44 AM

burghboy: neongoats: burghboy: You don't need to live in a ridiculously large house and drive a ridiculously large vehicle to look down on smug impracticality.

impractical for you. Seems like they make it work for them. *shrug*

Not sure where you got from out of the article though. Although admittedly I feel pretty smug myself when I get a tiny utility bill.

Impractical = building their own POS when they could have gotten something much, much nicer for the same amount of money, as pointed out by several others.  But buying a travel trailer is so "establishment" and Bush Era.  If I make it myself, somehow that makes me superior.


I didn't find in the article where it COST THEM 48k to build their house, btw. That's just what they are charging for a replica.
 
2013-04-15 04:12:25 AM
I'd love a tiny house like that to myself but I think if I had to live with somebody else that one of us would be standing over the other with a bloodied knife before a week was out. Zero personal space.
 
2013-04-15 04:13:06 AM

ktybear: A bus would be better.

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You ever see Captain Ron?

That made me think of the crashed airplane hull/taco stand. I liked the trippy couch cushions.
 
2013-04-15 04:16:19 AM
 
2013-04-15 04:33:25 AM
Honestly, it's not much smaller the apt my wife and I live in. We've definitely got more sq footage, but it's a negligible difference. The kitchen is one corner of the living room, and there's a bedroom and bathroom and a walk in closet.

It's tight, but we make it work. And it's been pretty good for us thus far, but we're looking forward to moving into something bigger.
 
2013-04-15 04:38:33 AM
I really don't understand the hate. My husband and I could do that easily. It has a kitchen, a bedroom, and a living room. They live in a warm climate. We'd have to have a storage unit for some of my books and some of his instruments. But seriously - you can cook/eat, have sex, engage in most individual hobbies as well as do things like play chess, and have electronic entertainment. Childless couples do not need any more than that. People all over the world live in close quarters with far fewer creature comforts than that. Perhaps their design isn't the most judicious use of money/space, but the concept is good.

That said, I don't think the unit cost them 48,000; I think that's what they're charging. Which is wishful thinking.
 
2013-04-15 04:43:58 AM

ChemicalChance: I really don't understand the hate. My husband and I could do that easily. It has a kitchen, a bedroom, and a living room. They live in a warm climate. We'd have to have a storage unit for some of my books and some of his instruments. But seriously - you can cook/eat, have sex, engage in most individual hobbies as well as do things like play chess, and have electronic entertainment. Childless couples do not need any more than that. People all over the world live in close quarters with far fewer creature comforts than that. Perhaps their design isn't the most judicious use of money/space, but the concept is good.

That said, I don't think the unit cost them 48,000; I think that's what they're charging. Which is wishful thinking.


But what good are the books or instruments if they're in a storage locker someplace, and you hardly ever get to use them?
 
2013-04-15 04:49:56 AM
this could work...

(if your wardrobe is nothing but t-shirts and you eat nothing but pre-packaged meals)
 
2013-04-15 04:51:14 AM
Must be nice to be able to sit on the toilet and poop while being able to reach the stove and fry eggs at the same time.
 
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