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(Globe and Mail)   Mr. Trudeau is elected the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada. This is not a repeat from 1972   (theglobeandmail.com) divider line 92
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2013-04-15 12:10:55 AM
Will he still have time to draw Doonesbury?
 
2013-04-15 12:18:53 AM
I'm pretty sure it is a repeat of 1972.
 
2013-04-15 01:13:13 AM

Darth_Lukecash: Will he still have time to draw Doonesbury?


DAMN YOU ADDAMS!
 
2013-04-15 01:47:44 AM
He's a shiat ton better than Iggy but I'm still voting NDP next time around.

Still... gratz. Nice speech. Good start.
 
2013-04-15 01:51:59 AM

quatchi: He's a shiat ton better than Iggy but I'm still voting NDP next time around.

Still... gratz. Nice speech. Good start.


I don't think I could ever vote NDP, I'm left wing but they're just way too left for me.
 
2013-04-15 01:57:32 AM

change1211: quatchi: He's a shiat ton better than Iggy but I'm still voting NDP next time around.

Still... gratz. Nice speech. Good start.

I don't think I could ever vote NDP, I'm left wing but they're just way too left for me.


They're ditching the far left socialists and moving to the center a bit more cos their numbers are up so much they actually have a decent shot this time around.
 
2013-04-15 01:57:57 AM

change1211: quatchi: He's a shiat ton better than Iggy but I'm still voting NDP next time around.

Still... gratz. Nice speech. Good start.

I don't think I could ever vote NDP, I'm left wing but they're just way too left for me.


Listen to me my Canadian friend, You really need to keep the conservatives down,unless you like what you see going on south of you.
 
2013-04-15 02:11:04 AM
Something, something, "just watch me."

/hear Trudeau, think of that quote
//American, fwiw
 
2013-04-15 03:08:36 AM
Will Mrs. Trudeau be tramping around again?
 
2013-04-15 04:45:07 AM
Why does this matter to us 'Muricans?

Screw this. I'm so mad, I'm personally going to bomb a brown country and steal their oil, and drink a bud light. (Which is 100x better than ANY Canadian beer.)
 
2013-04-15 04:58:36 AM

whither_apophis: Will Mrs. Trudeau be tramping around again?


LOL, you just reminded me of one of my favorite punk rock records I used to own.

Had that infamous picture of Margaret T at Studio 54 sans panties with her fuzzy bush sticking out.

The band got sued, of course, and further copies of that album were sold with a sticker over her naughty bits.

Good times, good times.

**NSFW** pic in question...  http://s293.photobucket.com/user/dethspud/media/maggiesanscullottes_z p se7355e5f.jpg.html
 
2013-04-15 05:00:32 AM
Seems to me that it is a repeat from 1968, not 1972.  Trudeau Sr. had already been prime minister for 4 years in '72.
 
2013-04-15 05:05:00 AM

Paris1127: Something, something, "just watch me."

/hear Trudeau, think of that quote
//American, fwiw


Just for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeTsQQ22Uwc
 
2013-04-15 06:32:38 AM
Does that mean that they will bring back "Canadian Air Farce" to CBC?
 
2013-04-15 06:52:52 AM
Countrymen, I say to ya
Beware Canadia!
 
2013-04-15 07:19:02 AM

GoldenMetalRaven: Does that mean that they will bring back "Canadian Air Farce" to CBC?


And "The Beachcombers"
 
2013-04-15 07:33:41 AM

quatchi: whither_apophis: Will Mrs. Trudeau be tramping around again?

LOL, you just reminded me of one of my favorite punk rock records I used to own.

Had that infamous picture of Margaret T at Studio 54 sans panties with her fuzzy bush sticking out.

The band got sued, of course, and further copies of that album were sold with a sticker over her naughty bits.

Good times, good times.

**NSFW** pic in question...  http://s293.photobucket.com/user/dethspud/media/maggiesanscullottes_z p se7355e5f.jpg.html


eh,I can fap to that.
 
2013-04-15 07:35:23 AM

Darth_Lukecash: change1211: quatchi: He's a shiat ton better than Iggy but I'm still voting NDP next time around.

Still... gratz. Nice speech. Good start.

I don't think I could ever vote NDP, I'm left wing but they're just way too left for me.

Listen to me my Canadian friend, You really need to keep the conservatives down,unless you like what you see going on south of you.


files.list.co.uk
 
2013-04-15 07:35:59 AM
The NDP have ditched the socialism, and tried to be more like the Liberals (since the Liberals weren't doing a very good job of it for a while there).

People vote for for people they like. That's why they voted for Jack Layton, its why Americans voted for Bill Clinton and George W Bush, and its why Justin Trudeau is going to win in a landslide.

People knock him for his lack of experience, but he's been getting ready for this job quite literally since the day of his birth (timed by the parents to occur on December 25th)

The NDP don't have a hope in hell as Liberal-lite. Their only shot now is to drop the pretend game and try to be real socialists again.
 
2013-04-15 07:42:07 AM
Also, subby is a dumbass. It was 1968, not 1972,
 
2013-04-15 07:44:30 AM
As an American, my opinion doesn't really mean much, but I'll always have a special part in my heart for the NDP.

Because Jack Layton was an awesome dude.

lamutamu.com
 
2013-04-15 08:11:05 AM
I find this very disheartening. Is there an uncontrollable urge to embrace political dynasties? Is it simply part of human nature to establish an aristocratic class and hand power over to it? Or is it just that political success in one generation leads inexorably to the wealth and access needed to succeed politically in the next? A famous name should be an impediment to election, not an aid. We really need a constitutional amendment barring the children (and wives) of past presidents from running for president themselves. We came perilously close to "President Romney" just a few months ago. Haven't we learned our lesson?

[Apologies for hijacking your Canadian politics thread.]
 
2013-04-15 08:11:30 AM
The liberals are still years away from having any form of government so I hope he uses his popularity to good effect.

The guy is 41 years old...he looks like he just got out of college. He'll be around for a long time. If I we're the NDP, I would be worried as he definitely has the charisma to steal away the young NDP voters.
 
2013-04-15 08:33:49 AM

change1211: quatchi: He's a shiat ton better than Iggy but I'm still voting NDP next time around.

Still... gratz. Nice speech. Good start.

I don't think I could ever vote NDP, I'm left wing but they're just way too left for me.


You're not left wing.
 
2013-04-15 08:45:12 AM

clambam: I find this very disheartening. Is there an uncontrollable urge to embrace political dynasties? Is it simply part of human nature to establish an aristocratic class and hand power over to it? Or is it just that political success in one generation leads inexorably to the wealth and access needed to succeed politically in the next? A famous name should be an impediment to election, not an aid. We really need a constitutional amendment barring the children (and wives) of past presidents from running for president themselves. We came perilously close to "President Romney" just a few months ago. Haven't we learned our lesson?


That kind of went out the window with Quincy Adams.
 
2013-04-15 08:50:31 AM
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Hot like the dance floor at Studio 54.

Now, get off my lawn!
 
2013-04-15 08:51:49 AM
It's a sad statement to make that the Liberals have no great ideas to run on, only a celebrity heir.

Hi again, NDP!
 
2013-04-15 08:53:17 AM

Darth_Lukecash: Will he still have time to draw Doonesbury?


Yes, but he's rebooting the franchise to involve a team of Canadian superheroes.
 
2013-04-15 08:59:01 AM
Polls say he'd beat Harper if the election were tomorrow.

All I really want is to get rid of my MP (Baird) but it will never happen.
 
2013-04-15 08:59:20 AM
He also spoke directly to Quebeckers, urging them to take a look at his Liberal Party as he tries to earn back their trust. "Quebeckers, let's be builders again," he said in his nearly 30-minute-long acceptance speech. "

Don't they call themselves Quebecois, or is that just the francophones?
 
2013-04-15 09:03:04 AM

Gwyrddu: He also spoke directly to Quebeckers, urging them to take a look at his Liberal Party as he tries to earn back their trust. "Quebeckers, let's be builders again," he said in his nearly 30-minute-long acceptance speech. "

Don't they call themselves Quebecois, or is that just the francophones?


The smart ones call themselves Canadiens.
 
2013-04-15 09:27:21 AM
Harper and Trudeau already faced off in Parliament, just last month:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmb7O1WAw-Y
 
2013-04-15 09:35:53 AM
This may explain why it's been such a cold bitter winter in Alberta...

/He's got a long way to go to convince Westerners that he won't go all NEP on us like daddy did.
 
2013-04-15 09:36:16 AM
I just want the party to give him time.  Even if he doesn't become leader of the opposition in 2015, give him a chance to establish a bit of a platform and a history.  Give him time to come up with and sell the big ideas.

Dion was not PM material, but he had a great big idea.  He just didn't have the time, personality or advisors to sell it during an election and with Harper loudly lying and playing dumb.  Let Trudeau stumble and learn from mistakes - even if it doesn't mean a quick fix.

Oh, and merge the left - or run cooperatively.  We need to get rid of Harper!
 
2013-04-15 09:37:34 AM

ColdFusion: As an American, my opinion doesn't really mean much, but I'll always have a special part in my heart for the NDP.

Because Jack Layton was an awesome dude.

[lamutamu.com image 466x686]


I'm don't care for the NDP but Jack Layton is a great Canadian who no one every had anything bad to say about.  By brother-in-law was hospitality worker on the Hill and Layton was really nice to him and talk his ear off.  Amazing person and represented the best of what is Canada.
 
2013-04-15 09:40:13 AM

Gwyrddu: Don't they call themselves Quebecois, or is that just the francophones?


Believe that part of his speech was French, so I'd imagine that's just a literal translation. The only politician I can remember using "Quebeckers" recently is Jean Cretien.
 
2013-04-15 09:40:16 AM

pzeeman: I just want the party to give him time.  Even if he doesn't become leader of the opposition in 2015, give him a chance to establish a bit of a platform and a history.  Give him time to come up with and sell the big ideas.

Dion was not PM material, but he had a great big idea.  He just didn't have the time, personality or advisors to sell it during an election and with Harper loudly lying and playing dumb.  Let Trudeau stumble and learn from mistakes - even if it doesn't mean a quick fix.

Oh, and merge the left - or run cooperatively.  We need to get rid of Harper!


Harper isn't going anywhere with the NDP/Liberals splitting the vote and a relatively strong economy.
 
2013-04-15 09:44:00 AM

whither_apophis: Will Mrs. Trudeau be tramping around again?


I call dibs.  I've had a semi-crush on Sophie Grégoire since before she started dating Justin.
 
2013-04-15 09:45:31 AM

starsrift: Gwyrddu: He also spoke directly to Quebeckers, urging them to take a look at his Liberal Party as he tries to earn back their trust. "Quebeckers, let's be builders again," he said in his nearly 30-minute-long acceptance speech. "

Don't they call themselves Quebecois, or is that just the francophones?

The smart ones call themselves Canadiens.



Anglos living in Quebec (like me) do not refer to themselves as Québecois.  It's almost a tribal term, (saying that without criticism).

I remember when Parliament declared the Quebecois to be a 'nation within a united Canada.'  A guy (franco-separatist) asked me, 'how does anyone really know if they are a Quebecois or not?'  The only answer I could think of was, 'if you have to ask yourself, then you're not.'

We call ourselves 'Quebeckers.'

Also, using the term Quebecois in an English speech would sound strange, almost weirdly patronizing.
 
2013-04-15 09:47:50 AM

pzeeman: Dion was not PM material, but he had a great big idea.  He just didn't have the time, personality or advisors to sell it during an election and with Harper loudly lying and playing dumb.  Let Trudeau stumble and learn from mistakes - even if it doesn't mean a quick fix.


He didn't get the time because he didn't have the personality/advisors. Same (but worse) with Iggy. I'm sure Trudeau won't be a single election leader.
 
2013-04-15 09:55:27 AM

KWess: starsrift: Gwyrddu: He also spoke directly to Quebeckers, urging them to take a look at his Liberal Party as he tries to earn back their trust. "Quebeckers, let's be builders again," he said in his nearly 30-minute-long acceptance speech. "

Don't they call themselves Quebecois, or is that just the francophones?

The smart ones call themselves Canadiens.


Anglos living in Quebec (like me) do not refer to themselves as Québecois.  It's almost a tribal term, (saying that without criticism).

I remember when Parliament declared the Quebecois to be a 'nation within a united Canada.'  A guy (franco-separatist) asked me, 'how does anyone really know if they are a Quebecois or not?'  The only answer I could think of was, 'if you have to ask yourself, then you're not.'

We call ourselves 'Quebeckers.'

Also, using the term Quebecois in an English speech would sound strange, almost weirdly patronizing.


We grew-up in Quebec (Quebec City no less) and we didn't need to represent ourselves one way or the other but in retrospect, I think we simply thought of ourselves as Canadians.
 
2013-04-15 09:58:34 AM

Lego_Addict: The guy is 41 years old...he looks like he just got out of college. He'll be around for a long time. If I we're the NDP, I would be worried as he definitely has the charisma to steal away the young NDP voters.


The NDP is kidding itself if they think a charismatic leader won't help the Liberals. A charismatic leader is why the NDP has 100 seats.
 
2013-04-15 10:02:47 AM

Gwyrddu: He also spoke directly to Quebeckers, urging them to take a look at his Liberal Party as he tries to earn back their trust. "Quebeckers, let's be builders again," he said in his nearly 30-minute-long acceptance speech. "

Don't they call themselves Quebecois, or is that just the francophones?


Obligatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZS7sOOpELI
 
2013-04-15 10:09:15 AM

KWess: starsrift: Gwyrddu: He also spoke directly to Quebeckers, urging them to take a look at his Liberal Party as he tries to earn back their trust. "Quebeckers, let's be builders again," he said in his nearly 30-minute-long acceptance speech. "

Don't they call themselves Quebecois, or is that just the francophones?

The smart ones call themselves Canadiens.


Anglos living in Quebec (like me) do not refer to themselves as Québecois.  It's almost a tribal term, (saying that without criticism).

I remember when Parliament declared the Quebecois to be a 'nation within a united Canada.'  A guy (franco-separatist) asked me, 'how does anyone really know if they are a Quebecois or not?'  The only answer I could think of was, 'if you have to ask yourself, then you're not.'

We call ourselves 'Quebeckers.'

Also, using the term Quebecois in an English speech would sound strange, almost weirdly patronizing.


Newsflash: No one gives a shiat what Quebecers call themselves. Or think, Or do. When they start contributing to the economy instead of mismanaging their resources and promoting a welfare culture, then we might.
 
2013-04-15 10:20:49 AM
Good. Maybe he won't have any time left to write crappy comics.

/DRTFA
 
2013-04-15 10:21:27 AM

hardinparamedic: Why does this matter to us 'Muricans?


It means the centrist party leader is for your oil pipelines, so you ahve nothing to fear but oil spills. Our tax money is going to be diverted to funding your corporations' infrastructure instead of our schools. Which is nice. We need jobs and nobody is hiring artists or scientists up here. Oil spills cleaners seem to have a lot of work though.
 
2013-04-15 10:28:20 AM
Does that mean we will soon see him again in the pages of Marvel's Alpha Flight?

1.bp.blogspot.com

Back when Wendigos were cool and not everywhere.
 
2013-04-15 10:41:25 AM
If he can siphon off just a few percent from the CPC vote totals, he's a Canadian hero in my books.

/I'll still be voting NDP though
//All I want for Xmas is a coalition gov't.
 
2013-04-15 10:42:06 AM
I could care less about the liberals. In my opinion they don't have what it takes to rebuild by the time the next election comes along. As for the NDP I'm honestly more concerned with the NDP running Nova Scotia than I am about the federal NDP party. The NDP federally haven't gone too far left and are actually willing to work with other parties if the issue is one that meets their views. You know how a political party is supposed to work.

I'm a fiscal conservative social liberal and there isn't any one party in Canada that represents me (except for the progressive conservatives but they don't exist anymore and if they did they would probably be led by that asshat Peter McKay). My best hope for a federal election is a conservative minority government with the NDP as the official opposition. Hell if I could be sure that the conservatives wouldn't act like complete idiots (they would and we all know it) an NDP minority with the conservatives as official opposition would be excellent.

This is why I have issue with federal Canadian politics. I shouldn't be hoping that a party that I'm not really a fan of wins an election because I'm concerned that they would be obstructionist as the opposition.
 
2013-04-15 11:04:49 AM
[pic of Canadian politician taking football to the groin which I can't find anywhere on the Intratubes anymore. Dammit]

But when will they administer the ceremonial football to the groin?
 
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