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(Time)   The newest technique to battle drinking? Implanting false memories   (healthland.time.com) divider line 45
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2013-04-14 01:18:10 PM
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2013-04-14 01:20:04 PM
And here I use drinking to handle my real memories.
 
2013-04-14 01:22:37 PM
Consider that a divorce!
 
2013-04-14 01:34:28 PM
I was doing some serious battle drinking last night.
 
2013-04-14 01:40:24 PM
If you do it right, you don't remember anything at all.
 
2013-04-14 01:59:03 PM
I have plenty of bad memories caused by drinking, but they only really serve to put me off drinking for a day, maybe two. That could be the hangover, though.
 
2013-04-14 02:06:36 PM
The concept is scary and has all sorts of nasty implications, but there it is and I recall the 80's mess when it was done by accident, usually to convince people they had been sexually abused.

Law and Order even made an episode based on it.

The hardest thing to fight is yourself. Your brain knows all of your weaknesses and fears and will use them against you to resist change. (Quote from a psychiatric technician concerning the difficulty in curing depression.)

I understand the concept. I'm an alcoholic and stopped drinking by associating thoughts of doing so with all of the problems booze caused me, including the hideous hangovers and going to work drunk and trying to hide it.

Once you manage to get the association fixed, the idea of having a drink becomes repellent because you associate it not with all the fun you had, but the shiat it caused. That makes people like me much less inclined to start drinking again.

(Sober 19 years now.)

So implanting false memories, crafted to fit a person, just might be a way to stop a bunch of nasty addictions and habits. With drug and alcohol problems, they'll have to wait until after the person goes through withdrawal. Usually, you feel so badly physically during those times that you're not receptive to someone telling you how to stay sober.

It's not going to work for everyone it's applied to. Like hypnotism, a person has to be susceptible to it.

Though, in the 80's, the process managed to get a whole lot of innocent folks convicted of sex crimes they didn't do, convinced others they had been molested when they had not been and surprised the heck out of physicians and psychiatrists when they found out what was going on.

It also resulted in some new laws being written concerning psychiatry and lawyers promptly snapped it up to use mainly in divorces for squabbles over children.

In retrospect, it shouldn't surprise anyone, since advertisers have been using somewhat similar techniques for generations to get you to buy tons of krap you don't need, want and often doesn't even work properly.

The human brain is a complex organ and we still have much to learn about how and why it works as it does.

BTW. In case you happen to think about it, this treatment will not turn a gay straight, since there are genetics involved in being gay. Those genetics, affecting the powerful sex drive, are unlike the genetics which often cause a person to have an addictive personality.
 
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2013-04-14 02:28:28 PM
Battle drinking sounds like something I could get into.  I might have to go back and RTFA.
 
2013-04-14 02:30:51 PM
Battle Drinking sounds like a great college party game.
 
2013-04-14 02:33:32 PM

Slaxl: I have plenty of bad memories caused by drinking, but they only really serve to put me off drinking for a day, maybe two. That could be the hangover, though.


A co-worker of mine told me this story. A friend of hers husband drank a lot -- would be brought home drunk by friends, she'd find him passed out in the drive way, etc. One night he was brought home passed out -- she took his shirt off, ran over it with the car several times to get tire marks on it and put it back on him. He actually thought he had been run over the hangover was so bad. I think it kept him sober for a little while.
 
2013-04-14 02:39:07 PM
i.imgur.com

Approves.
 
2013-04-14 02:39:33 PM

basemetal: Battle Drinking sounds like a great college party game.


More fun than Quarters, at least...
 
2013-04-14 02:55:39 PM

yellowcat: Slaxl: I have plenty of bad memories caused by drinking, but they only really serve to put me off drinking for a day, maybe two. That could be the hangover, though.

A co-worker of mine told me this story. A friend of hers husband drank a lot -- would be brought home drunk by friends, she'd find him passed out in the drive way, etc. One night he was brought home passed out -- she took his shirt off, ran over it with the car several times to get tire marks on it and put it back on him. He actually thought he had been run over the hangover was so bad. I think it kept him sober for a little while.


Brilliant. I eagerly await the day when the opportunity presents itself to me to do that to someone... I just hope I don't do it wrong and take the shirt off then run over the person.
 
2013-04-14 03:10:40 PM
As surprising as it sounds, dozens of studies now show that it is relatively easy to create false childhood memories. By using suggestive techniques such as presenting apparently personal information or having family members claim that false memories are true, up to 40% of people can be convinced that they experienced events that did not occur.

huh.  I'm seeing Fox News in a whole new light....
 
2013-04-14 03:12:09 PM
Don't like the thought of psychological warfare to get people to stop drinking. I don't like commercials or junk mail either. In fact, I go out of my way to avoid them. Right or wrong, I want the decision I made to be my own.
 
2013-04-14 03:32:47 PM
GET YOUR ASS TO BARS!
 
2013-04-14 03:33:37 PM
i291.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-14 03:35:10 PM
www.moviemuser.co.uk
 
2013-04-14 03:36:31 PM

propasaurus: I was doing some serious battle drinking last night.


This.  Really thought it was a new drinking game.

/coffee, please
 
2013-04-14 03:38:27 PM

basemetal: Battle Drinking sounds like a great college party game.


sort of a variation of binge drinking. go for it.
 
2013-04-14 03:43:16 PM
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If only they called their telekinesis something other than "chooming" or whatever. Only problem w/ that movie.
 
2013-04-14 03:44:04 PM
Contrary to the advice of a recent Leonardo DiCaprio movie, this technique does NOT work while the drunk driver has deliberately run his car off a high bridge into the water.

ESPECIALLY not while playing "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien" at fifty times slower than normal
 
2013-04-14 03:48:38 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-14 03:51:12 PM

Do you know the way to Mordor: Contrary to the advice of a recent Leonardo DiCaprio movie, this technique does NOT work while the drunk driver has deliberately run his car off a high bridge into the water.

ESPECIALLY not while playing "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien" at fifty times slower than normal


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How can you be certain it didn't work?
 
2013-04-14 03:53:14 PM

T-Servo: Do you know the way to Mordor: Contrary to the advice of a recent Leonardo DiCaprio movie, this technique does NOT work while the drunk driver has deliberately run his car off a high bridge into the water.

ESPECIALLY not while playing "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien" at fifty times slower than normal

[cdn1.screenrant.com image 547x345]

How can you be certain it didn't work?


Dude it was his sled.
 
2013-04-14 03:54:25 PM
Has anyone referenced a movie yet?
 
2013-04-14 03:54:49 PM
The newest technique to battle drinking? Implanting false memories

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Describe--in single words--only the good things that come into your mind about your mother.
 
2013-04-14 03:55:47 PM
It's just drinking while playing Battleship.
 
2013-04-14 03:56:57 PM

RedPhoenix122: [static.giantbomb.com image 602x337]


Done it one. By far one of the best "games" I have ever played.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Loftus

The tragedy remains that many people are in prison for child sexual abuse because of false implanted memories.
 
2013-04-14 03:59:58 PM
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Coming up next on 11:00 news...
 
2013-04-14 04:08:07 PM
Can they implant a memory of me banging Lynda Carter in her Wonder Woman outfit? I'd pay big bucks for that.
 
2013-04-14 04:09:14 PM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-04-14 04:14:27 PM

AliceBToklasLives: T-Servo: Do you know the way to Mordor: Contrary to the advice of a recent Leonardo DiCaprio movie, this technique does NOT work while the drunk driver has deliberately run his car off a high bridge into the water.

ESPECIALLY not while playing "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien" at fifty times slower than normal

[cdn1.screenrant.com image 547x345]

How can you be certain it didn't work?

Dude it was his sled.


Hey, spoiler alert! Geez, next you're going to tell me that an important character dies in Hamlet.
 
2013-04-14 04:16:56 PM
Implanting false memories?
images1.wikia.nocookie.net Child's play when you have the power of Geass!
 
2013-04-14 04:18:17 PM
Typical implanted memories:

"I can kick anyone's ass in this whole bar, including all the bouncers at once"
"I can run up vertical walls"
"I can outrun anyone"
"I look the same now as I did when I was 25"
"I can drive just fine after five whiskies and as many beers"
"Nobody can tell I'm snockered"
 
2013-04-14 04:34:12 PM
I submitted this with a more racist headline.  So I've been told.
 
2013-04-14 04:46:09 PM

basemetal: Battle Drinking sounds like a great college party game.


I thought the same thing. It also made  the headline difficult to understand.
 
2013-04-14 05:20:13 PM
i.imgur.com I foam at the mouth all the time, doesn't keep me from drinking
 
2013-04-14 05:27:46 PM

Do you know the way to Mordor: Contrary to the advice of a recent Leonardo DiCaprio movie, this technique does NOT work while the drunk driver has deliberately run his car off a high bridge into the water.

ESPECIALLY not while playing "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien" at fifty times slower than normal



That song belongs to ONLY one movie :

i291.photobucket.com

/FUBAR
 
2013-04-14 05:49:02 PM
That's the thing with alcohol or drug abuse - despite negative things happening as a result of use in any number of realms in your life you continue using. Doing something like this would have no effect because that's part of the maladaptive pattern already...
 
2013-04-14 06:09:14 PM
Battle drinking?
what like shot for shot?
chug a lug
beer pong
crazy russian
crazy mexican
plastered paddy
all of the above have given me false or atleast hazy memories
 
2013-04-14 06:12:09 PM
Time and Apathy... The cure for everything you have ever done wrong (remembered or not remembered)

Drinking continues...
 
2013-04-14 07:00:46 PM
sharetv.org
 
2013-04-14 11:52:13 PM
Rik01:

Though, in the 80's, the process managed to get a whole lot of innocent folks convicted of sex crimes they didn't do, convinced others they had been molested when they had not been and surprised the heck out of physicians and psychiatrists when they found out what was going on.

Hey, I really was ritually abused by a bunch of sexy Santaists. They even made me kill my tapeworm.
 
2013-04-15 04:01:57 PM

T-Servo: AliceBToklasLives: T-Servo: Do you know the way to Mordor: Contrary to the advice of a recent Leonardo DiCaprio movie, this technique does NOT work while the drunk driver has deliberately run his car off a high bridge into the water.

ESPECIALLY not while playing "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien" at fifty times slower than normal

[cdn1.screenrant.com image 547x345]

How can you be certain it didn't work?

Dude it was his sled.

Hey, spoiler alert! Geez, next you're going to tell me that an important character dies in Hamlet.


Did you know that in the movie "Titanic," the ship sinks?
 
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