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(The Atlantic)   Foodie elitists should call for healthier fast food instead of more home cooking as solution to obesity crisis, as it is in Asia. Instead, they believe "cooking is a personal obligation, and that shirking this obligation is lazy, harmful, bad"   (theatlantic.com) divider line 200
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vpb [TotalFark]
2013-04-14 11:01:44 AM
If everyone just quit their jobs they would have plenty of time to stay home and cook.
 
2013-04-14 11:39:33 AM
Foodies are, quite simply put, idiots.  They basically look for food that's expensive, or is uber-specialized, or just otherwise obscure, just to make a dish that, in the end, hardly ever tastes better than standard fare at a frickin' TGI Fridays.These people need to just step away from the Food Network and eat a damned Big Mac.

\mostly because, given their diet, a Big Mac would probably kill them on contact
\\then we'd have less foodie threads
\\\and the world would be a better place for it
 
2013-04-14 11:40:43 AM

vpb: If everyone just quit their jobs they would have plenty of time to stay home and cook.


Eating healthy is not the drudgery that you seem to think it is. Plan ahead and it's real simple.
 
2013-04-14 12:10:03 PM

AbbeySomeone: vpb: If everyone just quit their jobs they would have plenty of time to stay home and cook.

Eating healthy is not the drudgery that you seem to think it is. Plan ahead and it's real simple.


Exactly.  Frozen veggies and microwave-steaming bags aren't that expensive when you consider the costs of pre-prepared food.

And does anyone really think we'll ever be able to get chain food establishments to cut down on the unecessary sodium and sugar?  Hell, Hardee's seems to have taken the fact that you can measure their sodium content in grams as a point of pride.

/gotta have a cinnamon raisin biscuit about once every six months, though
 
2013-04-14 12:12:40 PM
You want it fast, or you want it good, and good for you. That's pretty much the choice.

In order to prepackage and make food fast, there have to be some trade offs. Part of that is par-cooking, part of that is methods for cooking, or reheating. In order to prepackage, which is essentially the "grail" of fast food, is storage. In order to get to the stores, pre-breaded or marinated, or ready to heat, there has to be a whole raft of things done to the food in order for it to be stored for the times necessary. We already have sacrificed a great deal to get tomatoes damn near everywhere, and the hard wee persimmons that we call 6x6 tomatoes, have to prepped and gassed, and sent out under-ripe, and force ripened a bit before they get to where you are. That's only a tiny part of what folks are really asking for when they want convenience. In order to get bananas to market, they have to be shipped vastly under-ripe, and then treated with ethylene gas to bring them to ripe before shipped out.

The infrastructure that goes into "fast" food, is a fairly time consuming and expensive one. Burger King, McDonalds and even Applebees all have to a fair amount of prep to products, even before they hit the stores. That cost is thinned out over a LOT of customers, but that is still an investment of time, energy, and product. In order to maximize profits to justify this support structure, folks offer the items that folks are clamoring for. Yes, it would be lovely to see quick and easy Pad Thai and Pho and skewers, but that's not what folks are asking for at the market. The "healthier" street foods that our Dear Author wants to see? Those are cultural differences, and often hawked NOT by large chains, but locals who purchase locally, prepare locally, and they are looking at what is cheap and easy to prepare. Those turnip stuffed spring rolls? Cheap as Hells to prepare, when you are at market, not so cheap and easy to prepare, store, and ship, and then reconstitute.

That's the issue with "fast food" in the US. Most of it is done by fairly large chains, and who buy their stuff from the folks whose chains that they are a part of. That means that there is limited choice, and governed by storage and reconstitution of said product.

You want healthier "fast" food? Then go local. Go the street vendors, go to local restaurants. Go to the folks who are close to their markets. Stop plugging into the chain stores. Go to your groceries and their delis and pick up their roasted birds, and the brazillion salads and prepped breads, because they are much closer to the chain of distribution, and have the fresh product on hand to prepare right there on premises, as opposed to going to a chain store that has to bring in prepped product, and then essentially warm it and put it into a box.

Your buying habits are part of the problem. Chains respond only to market forces. Their "healthier" alternatives only crop up when you demand them, and there are limits to what they can do, because of how they are set up. You really want healthier alternatives, then you need to buy local, you need to support the folks who do food themselves. There WILL be a markup--that's how folks stay in business. For restaurants, you want your food cost to be in the 30% range. You want the cost of every plate going out to be 30% of what you charge for it, and if you can make it for less than that 30%, you are moving into purer profit. Chains and others gouge, because they can. They remove some of the labor cost out of their model by bringing in product that doesn't require a LOT of skill. They are shaving their costs where they can. That puts constraints on what they can offer you.

It isn't that market that necessarily needs to change, but folks' buying habits, that will pull the market in to serve that need. Folks are buying garbage, and shoving as much gottverdammt blue cheese and Ranch dressing as they can, and the market provides for those buying habits. As a chef, I despise blue cheese, because I see folks asking for 8 to 16oz of the crap on a regular basis. You might as well just take a damn spigot to the tables and open folks' gobs up and shove it in to pump as much fat into folks' stomachs as they can take, because that is what they are asking for. I offer roasted beet salads, I offer healthier alternatives on a regular basis, and folks ask for fried food, they ask for as much fat and salt and crap, and the market responds by giving it to them.

Rather than decry the market that is, it would be better to examine your own buying habits, and maybe look around for better alternatives. Quick and easy and healthy IS possible, but you have to go outside the f*cking mall and away from the big neon signs to find it. A lot of it IS affordable, and a lot of joints do to go menus, because they want the business, but if folks are looking for the convenience of Papa John's or Burger King AND healthy AND cheap, then folks are going to have look for it, and support folks enough to make the large chains notice, and then realize, that no matter what, the large chains AREN'T going to be able to do what the smaller guys can do, because of the constraints of their business model.

Eat local. Support local kitchens. There are a lot of folks who already do exactly what you're looking for, but they don't have the budgets to put up ads on frippin' Hulu and during prime time TV. You are going to have to look for them. You are going to have actually do some of the legwork yourself, and demanding fast, quick, easy, healthy alone isn't going to make that happen, not when you *le sigh* and then order ANOTHER frippin' Bloomin' Onion and shove that down your gob, and spread f*cking Ranch all over the f*cker.

Take some damn responsibility for your eating habits, and stop demanding that others hold your damn hands. It's ALREADY out there, you just aren't supporting it, because you can't be bothered to look.
 
2013-04-14 12:15:04 PM

FriarReb98: Foodies are, quite simply put, idiots.  They basically look for food that's expensive, or is uber-specialized, or just otherwise obscure, just to make a dish that, in the end, hardly ever tastes better than standard fare at a frickin' TGI Fridays.These people need to just step away from the Food Network and eat a damned Big Mac.

\mostly because, given their diet, a Big Mac would probably kill them on contact
\\then we'd have less foodie threads
\\\and the world would be a better place for it


Sounds like someone could really use an arugula and water-crest salad with toasted walnuts and a raspberry balsamic vinaigrette.
 
2013-04-14 12:29:04 PM
hubiestubert:  Go to your groceries and their delis and pick up their roasted birds, and the brazillion salads and prepped breads, because they are much closer to the chain of distribution, and have the fresh product on hand to prepare right there on premises, as opposed to going to a chain store that has to bring in prepped product, and then essentially warm it and put it into a box. 

That's good advice.  Publix and Sweetbay are the big grocery chains around here, and both have rotisserie chicken (Sweetbay also has roast pork and turkey usually) plus plenty of sides.  A lot of the sides are gloppy mayonnaise laden salads, but there are some healthier looking alternatives there as well.  Sweetbay will even steam a lot of the fresh seafood they sell for you while you shop, so pick something you like, have them cook it, grab your sides and other groceries, and pick it up at the deli counter before you leave.

Some of the chain restaurants also make some decent (and able to be configured to be healthy) family to-go dinners.  Pollo Tropical,  Boston Market, Cracker Barrel, etc.  Of course, just like at the grocery store you have to make the healthy choices if you want to eat healthy.  Order the green beans, turnip greens, beans, and other vegetable sides instead of the fried potatoes and mac & cheese.
 
2013-04-14 12:37:21 PM

AbbeySomeone: vpb: If everyone just quit their jobs they would have plenty of time to stay home and cook.

Eating healthy is not the drudgery that you seem to think it is. Plan ahead and it's real simple.


I started cooking when I was 12. I did it out of self defense, because my Dad thought that Veg-All was a great alternative. It was easy--canned salted veggies--but it tasted like warmed over lima bean ass. I discovered that you could cook from fresh, and cheaply, and did so because the food he made was NOT great stuff. I learned to cook in order to get away not from fat and salt and unhealthy food, but to get away from food that tasted like ass.

When I was 16 I started at a golf course. First as a busser, and then in the kitchen, and I cooked because it was a job. And I learned the trade in order to make money, and then I learned more, because I wanted to make some cool stuff. Along the way I learned about nutrition, and cooking healthy isn't hard. In fact, it's often a damn sight cheaper. Going to market often means less food sitting in your 'fridge and dying a cold and lonely death. It means having wider choices.

Cooking is not an esoteric trade. It is simple chemistry and applied physics. It is also a bit of art. It is a trade that isn't that hard to learn. It takes some practice, and that is really the thing that throws folks. They want "tricks" and "secrets" when really, it just takes practice and time to learn. The only way you get rice that DOESN'T take 20 minutes to cook, is by par cooking the stuff, and shoving it into a sealed box to reheat. The rice STILL took 20 minutes to cook, but someone else did it and then mixed some crap to put on top, and then sealed it up, so you could just microwave it, and they made choices about what to put on it, based not just on what tasted good, but what would store well and reconstitute in a fashion that would keep in a freezer. Cooking isn't about secrets or tricks, it's just about practice and learning about the foods you use. To do it well, takes practice. Like anything. You can't become a master carpenter from watching a few videos, and expect to turn out show room pieces in a few days. You can't become a master mechanic by reading a few books, and expect to restore a 1957 Plymouth Fury in a week. It takes time to practice, and folks don't want to put the time in. Mind you, they don't mind putting money down to hire a mechanic, or an electrician, or even a carpenter, but because food is such a basic thing, they seem to think that to cook well, you are just pulling rabbits from your hat, and that if they just knew the *trick* that they could reproduce it and every recipe in your repertoire.

There are no tricks. Just time, experience, and practice. In order to do it well, takes some time. It's not particularly hard, but you have to understand the ingredients, you have to know some basic skills, and you have to actually put some time in to learn. Sort of like using a Word program, or repairing your bike. Folks don't want to put in the time and practice though, and then are amazed, when they want folks who HAVE put in the time, actually demand money for their work.

Folks want my Al Sugo or Caprese salad? Neither are particularly hard. Just takes a bit practice to do well. Fairly easy and cheap, but yeah, I'll charge folks when they come in, because I have costs to cover, and part of those costs are my time. Time that folks don't want to put in. Time folks haven't been bothered to put in. Folks want to learn how? Fantastic. But it's not a "secret." The knowledge is out there, and folks just have to put in the time to learn a bit.

It doesn't take a lot of time to do a great many things, but to do them well, takes practice. You don't get to be good at golf just by showing up once. You have to practice, and what it boils down to is that folks have convinced themselves that it's "too much hassle" to learn a basic skill set, and then get whiny when they realize that they have few skills in the kitchen, and that it takes some practice. It will cost you a fair amount of time to get good, and to learn that skill set. And if it's too much hassle to learn a basic skill set, then you really can't complain too much when folks who DID learn that skill set actually charge you for the fruits of their labor and investment...
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-04-14 12:48:00 PM

AbbeySomeone: vpb: If everyone just quit their jobs they would have plenty of time to stay home and cook.

Eating healthy is not the drudgery that you seem to think it is. Plan ahead and it's real simple.


I don't seem to think it's drudgery, I seem to think it's something I can't do at work.

People don't eat fast food because they like it (not adults anyway).  They eat it because it's fast and you don't have to be at home.
 
2013-04-14 12:53:20 PM
If you don't want to be fat, you know what to do. Don't pretend "society" has made you what you are.
 
2013-04-14 12:53:58 PM
Foodies don't cook. They pay some guy they idolize $500 a night to give them an "experience", while taking pictures of the food to jerk off too later.
 
2013-04-14 12:55:06 PM
$6 a serving is average?  Who eats this low grade crap?  Oh yeah, poor people.
 
2013-04-14 12:56:25 PM
personally, i don't want to spend more time preparing food than i spend eating it.  i can't stand cooking and preparing food, it is a dull, boring chore about as fun as doing dishes or scrubbing toilets.  so i spend as little time doing it as possible, so that means lots of microwave food and easy crap like that.  making macaroni and cheese is about the most time consuming food i can stand to make.  one time i actually made tacos, complete with chopped lettuce and onions and everything, and my friends were all amazed that i spent that much time actually making a meal.
 
2013-04-14 12:56:52 PM
If you enjoy healthy fast food, you might like:

static.neatorama.com

Which is making an absolute killing in Southern China and has expanded like crazy. However, if you like any taste in your food at all, I would highly recommend not going in.

/Cantonese cuisine is worst Chinese cuisine
 
2013-04-14 12:58:08 PM
Are obsessive, pretentious elitists EVER NOT annoying?
 
2013-04-14 12:58:40 PM
Counterpoint:

imgs.xkcd.com

/There truly is an XKCD for everything
 
2013-04-14 01:00:04 PM
Headline: Healthy, Affordable Fast Food: Feminism's Holy Grail

well, well, well the flame-bait force is strong with this article.

Thanks, The Atlantic Obama.
(one good troll deserves another i guess)
 
2013-04-14 01:00:27 PM
The term 'foodie' is retarded. Congratulations, you like to do a basic human function. I'm a breathie myself. I only breathe bottled artisan oxygen from Tibet. You've probably never had it before.
 
2013-04-14 01:01:33 PM

enderthexenocide: personally, i don't want to spend more time preparing food than i spend eating it.  i can't stand cooking and preparing food, it is a dull, boring chore about as fun as doing dishes or scrubbing toilets.  so i spend as little time doing it as possible, so that means lots of microwave food and easy crap like that.  making macaroni and cheese is about the most time consuming food i can stand to make.  one time i actually made tacos, complete with chopped lettuce and onions and everything, and my friends were all amazed that i spent that much time actually making a meal.


Sitting waiting 15 hours for brisket is really really REALLY worth it though!
 
2013-04-14 01:01:35 PM

homelessdude: Headline: Healthy, Affordable Fast Food: Feminism's Holy Grail

well, well, well the flame-bait force is strong with this article.

Thanks, The

Atlantic Obama Fartbongo.
(one good troll deserves another i guess)


New and improved with 10% more flamebait
 
2013-04-14 01:02:32 PM

homelessdude: Headline: Healthy, Affordable Fast Food: Feminism's Holy Grail

well, well, well the flame-bait force is strong with this article.

Thanks, The Atlantic Obama Fartbongo.
(one good troll deserves another i guess)


FTFM

/learn to preview dumbass
 
2013-04-14 01:04:27 PM

panfried: FriarReb98: Foodies are, quite simply put, idiots.  They basically look for food that's expensive, or is uber-specialized, or just otherwise obscure, just to make a dish that, in the end, hardly ever tastes better than standard fare at a frickin' TGI Fridays.These people need to just step away from the Food Network and eat a damned Big Mac.

\mostly because, given their diet, a Big Mac would probably kill them on contact
\\then we'd have less foodie threads
\\\and the world would be a better place for it

Sounds like someone could really use an arugula and water-crest salad with toasted walnuts and a raspberry balsamic vinaigrette.

upload.wikimedia.org

 
2013-04-14 01:04:38 PM

enderthexenocide: personally, i don't want to spend more time preparing food than i spend eating it.  i can't stand cooking and preparing food, it is a dull, boring chore about as fun as doing dishes or scrubbing toilets.  so i spend as little time doing it as possible, so that means lots of microwave food and easy crap like that.  making macaroni and cheese is about the most time consuming food i can stand to make.  one time i actually made tacos, complete with chopped lettuce and onions and everything, and my friends were all amazed that i spent that much time actually making a meal.


Try stir-fry.  It's absurdly fast, easy, healthy, cheap, and tasty.
 
2013-04-14 01:04:59 PM
Who wants to tell this lady that obesity in Asia is a sign of wealth so having fat kids is a sign of status.
 
2013-04-14 01:07:12 PM

panfried: FriarReb98: Foodies are, quite simply put, idiots.  They basically look for food that's expensive, or is uber-specialized, or just otherwise obscure, just to make a dish that, in the end, hardly ever tastes better than standard fare at a frickin' TGI Fridays.These people need to just step away from the Food Network and eat a damned Big Mac.

\mostly because, given their diet, a Big Mac would probably kill them on contact
\\then we'd have less foodie threads
\\\and the world would be a better place for it

Sounds like someone could really use an arugula and water-crest salad with toasted walnuts and a raspberry balsamic vinaigrette.


WTF is "water-crest?" A new brand of toothpaste?
 
2013-04-14 01:07:16 PM

cameroncrazy1984: The term 'foodie' is retarded. Congratulations, you like to do a basic human function. I'm a breathie myself. I only breathe bottled artisan oxygen from Tibet. You've probably never had it before.


Lots of people like to drink wine, yet we have a term called Winos for pompous people who enjoy spitting it out into buckets to discuss its tones.
 
2013-04-14 01:08:34 PM

enderthexenocide: personally, i don't want to spend more time preparing food than i spend eating it.  i can't stand cooking and preparing food, it is a dull, boring chore about as fun as doing dishes or scrubbing toilets.  so i spend as little time doing it as possible, so that means lots of microwave food and easy crap like that.  making macaroni and cheese is about the most time consuming food i can stand to make.  one time i actually made tacos, complete with chopped lettuce and onions and everything, and my friends were all amazed that i spent that much time actually making a meal.


You have friends?
 
2013-04-14 01:09:09 PM
No time for daily cooking? Take one day a week and prepare a crapton of food, aliquot it in tupperwares, stick it in the freezer, and boom--meals for a week.

One word: crockpot.

Feeding your kids cheddar cheese and Triscuits is a hell of a lot more healthy than a HappyMeal.

Do what my parents did: keep a glass full of water and carrot sticks in the refrigerator. Kid goes to snack--boom, sweet vegetable right there. Worked for me and my brother.

Also: you're not friends with your kids. You're their parents. Whining about what you've fixed? Tell them to eat it and smile.
 
2013-04-14 01:11:07 PM

theorellior: No time for daily cooking? Take one day a week and prepare a crapton of food, aliquot it in tupperwares, stick it in the freezer, and boom--meals for a week.

One word: crockpot.

Feeding your kids cheddar cheese and Triscuits is a hell of a lot more healthy than a HappyMeal.

Do what my parents did: keep a glass full of water and carrot sticks in the refrigerator. Kid goes to snack--boom, sweet vegetable right there. Worked for me and my brother.

Also: you're not friends with your kids. You're their parents. Whining about what you've fixed? Tell them to eat it and smile.


Yup.  Eat it or go hungry.  If you choose to go hungry tonight, that's your breakfast.
 
2013-04-14 01:12:47 PM
I've recently learned to make loads of cheap chicken-mushroom-broccoli stirfry, served with tons of brown rice.  My life is better now.
 
2013-04-14 01:14:25 PM
Low cost. High quality. Speedy delivery.

Pick two.
 
2013-04-14 01:18:07 PM

WTF Indeed: cameroncrazy1984: The term 'foodie' is retarded. Congratulations, you like to do a basic human function. I'm a breathie myself. I only breathe bottled artisan oxygen from Tibet. You've probably never had it before.

Lots of people like to drink wine, yet we have a term called Winos for pompous people who enjoy spitting it out into buckets to discuss its tones.


I believe you refer to "oenophiles"

Winos are the guys you find laying in the gutter outside the liquor store.
 
2013-04-14 01:18:08 PM

vpb: People don't eat fast food because they like it (not adults anyway).  They eat it because it's fast and you don't have to be at home.


Well that's awfully presumptuous of you, I just don't know what I'd do without someone like you telling me what I like and don't like.
 
2013-04-14 01:18:26 PM
Some of the best cooking is simple, quick cooking. You just have to cook with actual ingredients, not some reconstituted crap out of a box. It's not hard.

That said, there's nothing quite like the nice brisket pot roast that takes half the day to cook.
 
2013-04-14 01:21:01 PM
What I have found amazing is the amount of young adults who have no idea how to cook.  I am talking basic cooking like mashed or baked potatoes, rice, steamed veggies and just frying or broiling some meat.  They do know how to make sandwiches though so all is not lost.
 
2013-04-14 01:22:46 PM

FriarReb98: Foodies are, quite simply put, idiots.  They basically look for food that's expensive, or is uber-specialized, or just otherwise obscure, just to make a dish that, in the end, hardly ever tastes better than standard fare at a frickin' TGI Fridays.These people need to just step away from the Food Network and eat a damned Big Mac.

\mostly because, given their diet, a Big Mac would probably kill them on contact
\\then we'd have less foodie threads
\\\and the world would be a better place for it


Foodie is a dumb term, and I don't personally know anyone who uses it to describe themselves, but it's possible to be interested in cooking and eating good food without going all elitist-hipster-douchebag about it.

I'm not against a McDonalds or Taco Bell run once in a while, but I like to expand my palate and tastes.  I enjoy learning to cook new things, and giving hole-in-the-wall joints a try to see if I can find hidden gems (it'shiat and miss, but the hits make it worthwhile).  When it comes to expense, sometimes expensive specialty ingredients are worth it, sometimes they aren't.  I don't really care if something is organic, fair trade, or non-GMO - I just want to buy the item that best hits the taste/expense sweet spot.  Expensive olive oil is worth it for certain dishes where the taste comes through, but cheap stuff out of the jug is fine in other things when it won't be a dominant flavor.  I like a lot of craft beers and I'm willing to spend more money on them, but I can't really tell one wine from the next though so a $6 bottle of Rex Goliath does me fine when I need wine.

Knowing a little bit about food and how to prepare it also means that you can make some great meals on the cheap.  Knowing how to cook cheaper cuts of meat, overlooked vegetables, and some of the crazy stuff you can find super cheap at Asian markets means that you can create some delicious stuff that people pay $40 per plate for in fancy restaurants for a couple bucks per serving.
 
2013-04-14 01:23:35 PM

WTF Indeed: cameroncrazy1984: The term 'foodie' is retarded. Congratulations, you like to do a basic human function. I'm a breathie myself. I only breathe bottled artisan oxygen from Tibet. You've probably never had it before.

Lots of people like to drink wine, yet we have a term called Winos for pompous people who enjoy spitting it out into buckets to discuss its tones.


The Frugal Gourmet had a great line about wine tasting, "Fortunately, we amateurs are allowed to swallow."

Then it came out he'd sexually assaulted a bunch of teenagers, and that line got REALLY creepy in retrospect.
 
2013-04-14 01:23:42 PM

Marc L'Hommedieu: I've recently learned to make loads of cheap chicken-mushroom-broccoli stirfry, served with tons of brown rice.  My life is better now.


There are many simple, delicious meals that can be prepared in approx 1/2 hour. Pasta tossed with olive oil, leftover chicken or shrimp, garlic, spinach, parmesean is one.
Roast chicken for dinner one night.
Leftover chicken tossed with pasta, stir fried w/rice and veg or chicken salad another night.
Toss carcass in crockpot w/spices or leftover veg to make stock, and freeze. That will be starter for 2 meals.
/just an example.
 
2013-04-14 01:25:18 PM
Cooking is easy enough,
want a quick work night dinner?
Omelette
Stir Fry
Meat + chopped tomatoes + pasta

On the other hand I would happily spend 6 hours tending to a chili or 3 hours making a curry.
Just get a fee recipe books, learn to make a few meals to start of with and then start making it up more and more as you gain confidence.

You dont any sauces out of a jar either, get some basic spices and it tastes better anyway
 
2013-04-14 01:25:22 PM

cameroncrazy1984: WTF Indeed: cameroncrazy1984: The term 'foodie' is retarded. Congratulations, you like to do a basic human function. I'm a breathie myself. I only breathe bottled artisan oxygen from Tibet. You've probably never had it before.

Lots of people like to drink wine, yet we have a term called Winos for pompous people who enjoy spitting it out into buckets to discuss its tones.

I believe you refer to "oenophiles"

Winos are the guys you find laying in the gutter outside the liquor store.


Thank you, pompous correction person. What's the proper name for that?
 
2013-04-14 01:26:05 PM
they have this. the grocery store always has a meal of the day for sale at the deli counter where they have the premade foods. yesterday it was half a rotisserie chicken and mashed potatoes for 5.99. or you could get some other pre-made mix and match for under 6 bucks there.
 
2013-04-14 01:27:02 PM

WTF Indeed: cameroncrazy1984: WTF Indeed: cameroncrazy1984: The term 'foodie' is retarded. Congratulations, you like to do a basic human function. I'm a breathie myself. I only breathe bottled artisan oxygen from Tibet. You've probably never had it before.

Lots of people like to drink wine, yet we have a term called Winos for pompous people who enjoy spitting it out into buckets to discuss its tones.

I believe you refer to "oenophiles"

Winos are the guys you find laying in the gutter outside the liquor store.

Thank you, pompous correction person. What's the proper name for that?


Pedant
 
2013-04-14 01:27:11 PM

hubiestubert: Cooking is not an esoteric trade. It is simple chemistry and applied physics. It is also a bit of art. It is a trade that isn't that hard to learn.


Cookbooks, however, use a fair bit of esoteric terminology, and, if you don't know what it means, you're stuck.

"Fold the flour into the eggs", to me, reads like  "Rollerized muffler bearing" does to someone who doesn't know anything about cars.  "Medium high heat".  Compared to what?  Etc.  You're not born knowing what these words mean, and, unless someone takes the time to teach you, cookbooks are at least 50% gibberish.

http://catb.org/jargon/html/W/Whats-a-spline.html
 
2013-04-14 01:27:23 PM
extreme / obsessive / fanatical behavior is rarely good. seek balance in life and you may find happiness.

cameroncrazy1984: The term 'foodie' is retarded. Congratulations, you like to do a basic human function. I'm a breathie myself. I only breathe bottled artisan oxygen from Tibet. You've probably never had it before.


'foodie' and 'hoodie' - two words that would have got your arse kicked where i grew up as a kid.

jedi_mind_meld: What I have found amazing is the amount of young adults who have no idea how to cook.  I am talking basic cooking like mashed or baked potatoes, rice, steamed veggies and just frying or broiling some meat.  They do know how to make sandwiches though so all is not lost.


sad to read that. i have many nieces and nephews that can really put it on the table. no, they're not fat.

/ i'm the fat one
// size of a '68 VW Karmann Ghia, not quite as pretty
 
2013-04-14 01:28:03 PM
I've read a lot of pretentious articles in my day, but I think this one tops them all.
 
2013-04-14 01:28:41 PM
When I'm on the job, I'm a traveling nuclear contractor. I work six twelve hour shifts a week. One day off.

I still manage to cook up a lunch for myself to take to work. Yeah I'm generally eating the same thing for lunch for a week, but whatever. I take some time on my day off to prepare something and load up the fridge. Stews, chowders, chilis, stir frys, carbonara, fish fillets. I eat a lot of chicken and fish, a lot of bellpepper and onion. My breakfast at work these days consists of sliced bellpepper and cucumber on flatbrad with tahini sauce (which I made).

Frankly if I can pull that off with that tight of a schedule, anyone can. Man up and carry a goddamn lunchbox.
 
2013-04-14 01:29:32 PM

jedi_mind_meld: What I have found amazing is the amount of young adults who have no idea how to cook.  I am talking basic cooking like mashed or baked potatoes, rice, steamed veggies and just frying or broiling some meat.  They do know how to make sandwiches though so all is not lost.


The day my sister got me a rice cooker I nearly died of happiness. I knew HOW to cook rice, but invariably I would forget about it and would screw it up. I can steam veggies in it also so it's pretty awesome. (can cook lots of things, but am lazy)
 
2013-04-14 01:29:47 PM
I love cooking, but oddly enough not for myself... Maybe it's a way for me to show my appreciation of someone, or maybe I'm narcissisticly looking for compliments. Or maybe it's just that when I get enough of the dish while cooking it and tasting it to make sure it's right that by the time it's ready, I'm done with it.

Either way, come to my place, and I'll cook up something!
 
2013-04-14 01:29:50 PM
asian women stay in the kitchen.  so thats even better
 
2013-04-14 01:30:59 PM

hubiestubert: There are no tricks.


I'm braising some Korean-style beef short ribs in cast iron skillet, covered in foil for 1 hour at 350 F. My broiler doesn't work. Should I remove the foil at the end, or change the temp, in order to thicken the sauce and/or brown the ribs a bit?

/seriously
//they'll be done in 25 min
///time is a factor ;)
 
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