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(Daily Mail)   I've reported from Ceausescu's Romania, Saddam's Iraq, Gaddafi's Libya, Mugabe's Zimbabwe and the Ayatollahs' Iran - but after eight days undercover in North Korea, I believe this regime is the most frightening tyranny of all   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 57
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2013-04-14 03:22:06 AM
4 votes:
Guys, that's a common horse coloration known as Dapple Grey.

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Many, many breeds of horse can come in this coloration. Some more commonly than others. It's very common for the Percheron draft horse, for example.

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2013-04-14 03:26:50 AM
3 votes:
Huh? The Daily Mail found a Facist leader they don't love unconditionally? Well I'll be...
2013-04-14 03:22:39 PM
2 votes:

contrapunctus: The comparisons to Nazi Germany are correct.

The conditions inside of a North Korean concentration camp are beyond comprehension. Right now, there are about 40,000 people in Yodok experiencing an absolute hell on earth.Read if you have the stomach for it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yodok_co ncentration_camp


Jesus. I hate to sound like a chest thumping warmongering MURICAn armchair general, but it really sometimes seems like it would be worth the horror of another Korean War to liberate however North Koreans would survive the conflict.

Although I'm sure it's easier for me to say than someone living in Seoul.
2013-04-14 01:14:19 PM
2 votes:

namatad: Doc Lee: Psyops need to be a lot stronger if you want a popular uprising.  If I were in charge, I'd find a way to blanket the country with cell coverage and start dropping cell phones with Internet access all over the countryside.  Let the people clue in on the outside world.  The people need to be I un-brainwashed but that can only really happen if they come to accept that they are brainwashed in the first place.

wouldnt take a lot to unbrainwash them
take 100 on a tour of seoul, give them an unlimited credit card.
between clothes and food shopping, they would die, rather than return to the best korea

/imagine your average starving NK who might have meat once a week to once a month going to a korean BBQ in seoul??!!!
/the side dishes would make them weep. the meat platter arriving would break their hearts.
/plus they would see all the tall, plump/muscled south koreans and wonder who all the giants were!


If it were that easy to get out of North Korea, don't you think that would have already happened? Going from NK to Seoul is basically impossible for a non-party official. Your average citizen isn't going to be able to go. If they somehow managed to without authorities knowing about it, they'd be imprisoned when they got back.

Basically, the only escape is through China. If you're caught in China, you are sent back to NK and you're basically going to die in a concentration camp. Those that flea tend to try to make it to the Japanese embassy or plead with the Chinese government to be sent to South Korea (it's not illegal for a North Korean to enter South Korea...South Korea views them all as Korean citizens). China views them as illegal immigrants, however. Chances of repopulation to South Korea are very very slim.

My family is North Korean. I'm an American, but, my relatives have the most amazing story of survival and escape from North Korea in the 1960s-1970s. They fled into China. Instead of seeking refuge in South Korea, they traveled all the way through China and ended up in a country called Vietnam...yeah...smack dab in the middle of the Vietnam War. Being poor country people in North Korea, they had no idea that there was a war going on. They just saw a lot of military everywhere but that was common in North Korea as well so they didn't think anything of it and they had been through the Korean conflict as well. A few of them died in Vietnam. They fled the fighting in Vietnam by boat and ended up in Singapore. From there, they took another boat to Australia. They sought political asylum in Australia. Some were allowed to stay in Australia, others were arrested for (I shiat you not) being communist spies. Of those that were arrested for being spies, one was deported back to North Korea (remember this man), the rest broke out of holding. They met with an underground Christian movement of people to safe guard them and eventually made their way to Brazil on fake passports working for Christian ministries (they really were Christian ministers by this time, though). Some stayed behind in Brazil and continued Christian ministry work there. The rest immigrated to the US to Koreatown in LA. They were granted amnesty under Reagan and still have a congregation in Koreatown to this day.

Now, the man who was sent back to North Korea as a spy, he ended up in a "re-education camp." He apparently killed two guards and fled. He made it to the DMZ and crossed over into South Korea even after being shot in the leg while crossing. He was big into origami and after tracking us down, we received an envelope with about 30 different origami papers in it and a note saying that he was free. He visited the US once for a family reunion and lived out the rest of his days in South Korea.

I always said that somebody needed to write a book about this great escape but most people who made it say they don't want to talk or think about it anymore and others have passed on. Some still fear being sent back. I can't even imagine what they saw. It's very hard for them to talk about it openly to this day so I only know the general story.
2013-04-14 01:11:06 PM
2 votes:

Rent Party: Oh man, remember back in the day when Weapons of Mass Destruction was a good enough reason to invade some country, and if that didn't work out, well we are gonna liberate them from the world's biggest tin pot dictator and if you disagreed you were an America hatin' terrorist lover?

Remember that?  What happened to all those guys?  Where did they go?   Where are the cries to liberate these people from this WMD collecting tyrant?  What could possibly be different here that would result in such silence on this important topic of American security?

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1. North Korea borders China

2. Those other countries didn't have nukes.

3. We have a client state that will get messed up on the border

4. Did I mention it borders China?

5. No oil.
2013-04-14 12:54:43 PM
2 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Oh boo hoo for them. What sort of idiots and likely traitors they must have been in the first place to want to spend a vacation in North Korea (what? Were all the hotels in Kabul and Mogadishu booked up?).


Humans are naturally drawn to watching suffering? Look at what happens whenever there's a terrible car accident, we slow down to get a better look. Humans are sick beings by our own standards, so we find regimes like this fascinating to watch from the outside because deep down, we want to see them rise up against their masters. Like watching an ant farm, but with people.

It doesn't make them traitors for wanting a chance to see history, they saw the suffering and can report back that it does indeed exist as we've been told and maybe even worse than what we had imagined. In this day and age, we don't always trust what we're told, we need to see it with our own eyes, even if it is heartbreaking
2013-04-14 12:48:14 PM
2 votes:

SurelyShirley: Best Korea is one of the worst places on this planet, we all know that. If you want to be a bad ass undercover reporter, show us something we haven't already seen over and over and over again. Same old story about brainwashed, malnourished people, barren lands and a god-like leader. Same pictures, too.


That's a valid criticism, but you have to remember that foreigners really can't just go wherever they want in NK.  If you actually go to NK, you get a government-planned itinerary---you don't get to even ask to go certain places, you just go where they take you.  So each journalist/tourist gets the exact same perspective.  It's not like you could just wander around the NK countryside and talk to people.  You'd immediately get noticed as a foreigner, and even if you were a South Korean passing yourself off as being from the North, you'd have no way to purchase basics like food, and you wouldn't even be allowed to travel without an official travel permit (which are only rarely given to actual North Koreans).

The only other way to get info is to interview defectors.  The scary thing is that the experience all of the journalists have is NK carefully putting on their best act for the foreign tourists.
2013-04-14 11:30:15 AM
2 votes:
Psyops need to be a lot stronger if you want a popular uprising.  If I were in charge, I'd find a way to blanket the country with cell coverage and start dropping cell phones with Internet access all over the countryside.  Let the people clue in on the outside world.  The people need to be I un-brainwashed but that can only really happen if they come to accept that they are brainwashed in the first place.
2013-04-14 03:52:37 AM
2 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: Alphax - Also covered in the BBC.

The university that organized the tourist trip, mainly their students, were not told about these reporters infiltrating the trip.  They're a bit ticked now, given how they risked the lives of their students and all.


The students risked their own lives when they decided to passively support the most brutal regime on the planet by giving it their custom. Shame on them on bravo to the reporter.
2013-04-14 03:09:27 AM
2 votes:
The real question is why I've never seen a picture of North Korea that doesn't look to have been taken in winter?
2013-04-14 02:36:49 AM
2 votes:
The comparisons to Nazi Germany are correct.

The conditions inside of a North Korean concentration camp are beyond comprehension. Right now, there are about 40,000 people in Yodok experiencing an absolute hell on earth.Read if you have the stomach for it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yodok_co ncentration_camp
2013-04-14 02:16:07 AM
2 votes:

quatchi: DeltaPunch: I'll take this horse.
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Medium rare.

What the hell breed of horse is that anyways?

Don't think I've ever seen it's like.


Best Horse.
2013-04-14 02:13:02 AM
2 votes:
FTFA Headline: No ads, no planes, no internet, not a single luxury. Like Robinson Crusoe, as primitive as can be.

Now, I can understand the author's emotions about Best Korea, but it's not because the country or Kim is particularly "scary". It's that the country has been so isolated by the North Korean government, that it's effin' creepy. Lil Kim (hee hee hee) isn't likely to launch any nukes, he just wants to be recognized on the world stage (whatever THAT means) as an important person. Yes, he's doing it wrong.
2013-04-14 02:10:30 AM
2 votes:
Alphax - Also covered in the BBC.

The university that organized the tourist trip, mainly their students, were not told about these reporters infiltrating the trip.  They're a bit ticked now, given how they risked the lives of their students and all.
2013-04-14 06:18:19 PM
1 votes:

Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.


As I said before, you'd need to find a way to blanket cover them with service. It's not too great an area and there are a lot of sparsely populated areas that could be ignored. Mesh networking would also be an option. As long as the signal can get to the outside, that's basically all that is needed.
2013-04-14 05:35:18 PM
1 votes:

Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.


Fine.  Just do OLPNK (one laptop per north korean) with distributed wifi meshes.

/probably need some hand crank generators too

Store and forward, baby.

/heck, even FIDOnet would be a step up
2013-04-14 05:32:43 PM
1 votes:

namatad: Doc Lee: Psyops need to be a lot stronger if you want a popular uprising.  If I were in charge, I'd find a way to blanket the country with cell coverage and start dropping cell phones with Internet access all over the countryside.  Let the people clue in on the outside world.  The people need to be I un-brainwashed but that can only really happen if they come to accept that they are brainwashed in the first place.

wouldnt take a lot to unbrainwash them
take 100 on a tour of seoul, give them an unlimited credit card.
between clothes and food shopping, they would die, rather than return to the best korea

/imagine your average starving NK who might have meat once a week to once a month going to a korean BBQ in seoul??!!!
/the side dishes would make them weep. the meat platter arriving would break their hearts.
/plus they would see all the tall, plump/muscled south koreans and wonder who all the giants were!


Actually, not necessarily. There's a fairly decent number of defectors who get homesick, have trouble adapting to the craziness of Seoul, and decide to go back to the North. It may be a crappy place, but when it's the crappy place that you're from, well, the draw of home is powerful.
2013-04-14 05:25:50 PM
1 votes:

Rent Party: www.ecoterra.org


North Korea has a few trillion dollar's worth of rare earth metals sitting under the ground. Some of which are a bit more valuable than oil.

and Natasha: But the Pharaohs were more than one dynasty-


And over time there was a lot of difference between dynasties. Indeed exactly what constituted proper religious observance kept changing.
2013-04-14 04:48:53 PM
1 votes:

SurelyShirley: On the other hand, I'm pretty sure you can take a group of tourists to a hospital in the UK to gawk at the patients, right?


I'm quite sure you would be aware of the fact that patients are there... you know, like visitors or patients being transported from room to x-ray or other testing and back again, food service, patients actually walking around.  Hospital patients are frequently mobile and like to get out of their beds and walk around. Being in a hospital without any evidence of actual patients would be incredibly creepy and it's a little disturbing that you take the story as "hurr durr, he wasn't allowed to go into patient rooms and gawk at the sick people" as opposed to "there was zero activity that indicated the existence of patients."
2013-04-14 04:42:01 PM
1 votes:

Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...


How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.
2013-04-14 04:26:09 PM
1 votes:

zerkalo: Need to find someone who wants to shoot and kill this sumbiatch. Then he join the others. But who wants the reins?


Me, I'll take it.
2013-04-14 04:09:22 PM
1 votes:

Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...


I'm OK with this, actually.
2013-04-14 03:56:42 PM
1 votes:

Arthur Jumbles: BSABSVR: Up on a hill, by yet another Kim statue, the strangest thing happens: I pick up a phone signal from the South only a few kilometres away.
If I can do this, so can a North Korean. The digital revolution is eating away at the regime's control - and that makes it harder to keep people brainwashed.

Except for the whole issue where North Koreans don't have cell phones.

Cells phones are small and there are these people called smugglers who will do illegal things for money.


Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.
2013-04-14 03:53:17 PM
1 votes:

Jackpot777: The writing on this was bad, and the writer should feel bad. A few examples...


I liked this one myself:
The tourist coach is a great tool of totalitarian power: one microphone, one exit.

It's an old bus.  Settle the fark down.  My car allows me to control the radio from my steering wheel, and on the driver's door I can override my passengers' window preferences and even lock them in!  It's not a symbol of incipient fascism.  It's just a car.

North Korea is an obviously shiatty place, it shouldn't be this much work to find metaphors.
2013-04-14 03:41:03 PM
1 votes:

BSABSVR: Up on a hill, by yet another Kim statue, the strangest thing happens: I pick up a phone signal from the South only a few kilometres away.
If I can do this, so can a North Korean. The digital revolution is eating away at the regime's control - and that makes it harder to keep people brainwashed.

Except for the whole issue where North Koreans don't have cell phones.


Cells phones are small and there are these people called smugglers who will do illegal things for money.
2013-04-14 03:37:46 PM
1 votes:
Up on a hill, by yet another Kim statue, the strangest thing happens: I pick up a phone signal from the South only a few kilometres away.
If I can do this, so can a North Korean. The digital revolution is eating away at the regime's control - and that makes it harder to keep people brainwashed.


Except for the whole issue where North Koreans don't have cell phones.
2013-04-14 02:12:12 PM
1 votes:

Rent Party: Oh man, remember back in the day when Weapons of Mass Destruction was a good enough reason to invade some country, and if that didn't work out, well we are gonna liberate them from the world's biggest tin pot dictator and if you disagreed you were an America hatin' terrorist lover?

Remember that?  What happened to all those guys?  Where did they go?   Where are the cries to liberate these people from this WMD collecting tyrant?  What could possibly be different here that would result in such silence on this important topic of American security?

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But they do have trillions of dollars worth of rare earth minerals.  The same rare earth minerals they ship to China for manufacturing and placed in your cell phones and other electronics.  Imagine all of that in the hands of a unified Korea run by an elected republican form of government promoting capitalism and to keep that manufacturing with a close, United States ally.  There is your reason to get rid of Kim Jong Undone.
2013-04-14 02:07:39 PM
1 votes:

Jackpot777: Blah, blah...

Do you mean "it's RULED", or "ITS rule" (without an apostrophe)? I had to stop here, not getting to day three. Sloppy writing and basic grammar error that make sentences nonsensical.


Neither. His structure is perfectly correct and legitimate. Back to 8th Grade with you.
2013-04-14 01:23:49 PM
1 votes:

Doc Lee: Now, the man who was sent back to North Korea as a spy, he ended up in a "re-education camp." He apparently killed two guards and fled. He made it to the DMZ and crossed over into South Korea even after being shot in the leg while crossing. He was big into origami and after tracking us down, we received an envelope with about 30 different origami papers in it and a note saying that he was free. He visited the US once for a family reunion and lived out the rest of his days in South Korea.


That is awesome. He sounds like a bad ass mofo.
2013-04-14 01:12:12 PM
1 votes:
Rent Party: Oh man, remember back in the day when Weapons of Mass Destruction was a good enough reason to invade some country, and if that didn't work out, well we are gonna liberate them from the world's biggest tin pot dictator and if you disagreed you were an America hatin' terrorist lover?

Remember that?  What happened to all those guys?  Where did they go?   Where are the cries to liberate these people from this WMD collecting tyrant?  What could possibly be different here that would result in such silence on this important topic of American security?

Because they have no oil? Then I imagine you're in full favor of fracking the hell out of our oilfields. If we've got all we need, we won't have to come up with excuses to invade fourth-world dystopian hellholes so we can "steal" their oil.
2013-04-14 12:59:18 PM
1 votes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24R8JObNNQ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw46Ll-Zy4s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HJj85K_7MQ

for those who never saw it, shiats crazy over there, especially the stuff in the third problem
2013-04-14 12:53:40 PM
1 votes:

Stone Meadow: Richard C Stanford: Yikes. So North Korea is basically a country wide re-enactment of 1984. And The Road. Why would anyone willingly vacation there?

Jaded youthful 'world travelers' who've 'been everywhere and done everything' will go to extreme lengths and risks to sample exotic locations. Video at 11.


There's nothing "exotic" about going to Fattystan. It's a vast lunar landscape of fail and crazy.
2013-04-14 12:50:29 PM
1 votes:

namatad: /imagine your average starving NK who might have meat once a week to once a month going to a korean BBQ in seoul??!!!


According to some defector's accounts, during bad years they only get meat on Kim Il-Sung's birthday.  Once a week would be freaking GLORIOUS for them.
2013-04-14 12:17:51 PM
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Oh boo hoo for them. What sort of idiots and likely traitors they must have been in the first place to want to spend a vacation in North Korea (what? Were all the hotels in Kabul and Mogadishu booked up?).


Oh, I think you'd be a god damned fool to even enter that country to start with for ANY reason.

I really don't understand why any South Korean especially would go there.
2013-04-14 12:08:19 PM
1 votes:

Doc Lee: Psyops need to be a lot stronger if you want a popular uprising.  If I were in charge, I'd find a way to blanket the country with cell coverage and start dropping cell phones with Internet access all over the countryside.  Let the people clue in on the outside world.  The people need to be I un-brainwashed but that can only really happen if they come to accept that they are brainwashed in the first place.


wouldnt take a lot to unbrainwash them
take 100 on a tour of seoul, give them an unlimited credit card.
between clothes and food shopping, they would die, rather than return to the best korea

/imagine your average starving NK who might have meat once a week to once a month going to a korean BBQ in seoul??!!!
/the side dishes would make them weep. the meat platter arriving would break their hearts.
/plus they would see all the tall, plump/muscled south koreans and wonder who all the giants were!
2013-04-14 09:28:53 AM
1 votes:
Yikes. So North Korea is basically a country wide re-enactment of 1984. And The Road. Why would anyone willingly vacation there?
2013-04-14 09:22:19 AM
1 votes:

HMS_Blinkin: VJStinger: It is not our job to liberate these people. Plain and simple. It twists my gut in knots, but you know it to be true.

Of course not.  But if Lil' Kim crosses the line, we may be forced to do so.  Honestly, all we'd have to do would be bomb military and government command and control centers.  That regime is so farking shaky.



We have to assume that the regime is shaky, and I hope more than anything that we're right. Looking at the Soviet system and its satellites before their collapse makes that system seem like a paradise compared to the ongoing conditions in Best Korea. But the Soviet collapse might not be the right comparison. If anything, North Korea is far more insulated than any other regime in recent history.

What bothers me is the possibility that the Kims have found the perfect combination of fear, isolation and oppression for their particular population. What happens if their system is something that's built to last? Reaching further back in history, there are a few examples of authoritarian regimes lasting for hundreds or thousands of years. The pharoahs in Egypt and the Spartans with their terror and domination of the Helots come to mind. Of course, these were ancient regimes, and not surrounded by nations and people with better ideas on how people should be governed. But again, we go back to how successful the Kims have been in keeping these ideas away from the people.
2013-04-14 08:53:38 AM
1 votes:

rynthetyn: Dr.Zom: rynthetyn: The real question is why I've never seen a picture of North Korea that doesn't look to have been taken in winter?

Obama's weather machine.

My dad fought in the Korean War and he used to make fun of MASH's southern California setting as looking nothing like Korea. He said it looked more like Kansas and that shot of Un on the horse bears that out.

It just dawned on me, MASH is why I keep mentally grouping the Koreas in with Southeast Asia even though they're farther apart than Mexico and New York.


Yeah, I make that mistake as well, but when you look at latitude vs. the US, it makes more sense that they do have seasons aside from hot as balls, and hot as balls with monsoons.

www.health.harvard.edu
2013-04-14 08:41:38 AM
1 votes:

DeltaPunch: I'll take this horse.
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Medium rare.


You laugh, but Kim Jung Un (blessed be his name), not 10 minutes after that photo was taken, slaughtered the horse, distributed the meat to his desciples, and fed the ENTIRE nation off of just one horse!
2013-04-14 08:41:12 AM
1 votes:

rynthetyn: The real question is why I've never seen a picture of North Korea that doesn't look to have been taken in winter?


Probably because you equate bare, treeless ground with winter time.

Other than the (stock?) photo of Un on the horse, there were no photos of trees; they've cut down every single tree in NK and used it for fuel and food.
2013-04-14 08:35:05 AM
1 votes:

VJStinger: It is not our job to liberate these people. Plain and simple. It twists my gut in knots, but you know it to be true.


Of course not.  But if Lil' Kim crosses the line, we may be forced to do so.  Honestly, all we'd have to do would be bomb military and government command and control centers.  That regime is so farking shaky.
2013-04-14 08:16:03 AM
1 votes:
Only on Fark could a thread about a tyrannical regime turn into a discussion about horse breeds.  Ah, Fark, how I love thee.
2013-04-14 08:11:14 AM
1 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: Alphax - Also covered in the BBC.

The university that organized the tourist trip, mainly their students, were not told about these reporters infiltrating the trip.  They're a bit ticked now, given how they risked the lives of their students and all.


I believe the students were made aware of it and the possible repercussions a couple of times, it is the university that is claiming they didn't know about it.
2013-04-14 07:20:11 AM
1 votes:
I might be more prone to care but the cries of "libbiest lib to ever have libbed or will lib" for the last 25 years have kind of made me meh to such claims.
2013-04-14 04:52:08 AM
1 votes:
Daily Mail, huh?
It's hard to imagine a worse source for anything regarding North Korea, unless Kim is dissing Beyonce on Twitter or something
2013-04-14 04:23:03 AM
1 votes:

LewDux: Just another people's democracy demonized by mainstream MSM media for not tap-dancing to military-industrial complex whims and having the guts to stand-up to AmeiKKa Wake up sheeple


Troll troll. Looks more like a prime example of what happens when your entire GDP is spent sucking military cock.
2013-04-14 03:43:37 AM
1 votes:

Ringshadow: Guys, that's a common horse coloration known as Dapple Grey.



Also known as the horse pulling the sleigh in "Over the River and Through the Woods". That includes the line, "trot fast my dapple grey."
2013-04-14 03:41:42 AM
1 votes:

Dr.Zom: rynthetyn: The real question is why I've never seen a picture of North Korea that doesn't look to have been taken in winter?

Obama's weather machine.

My dad fought in the Korean War and he used to make fun of MASH's southern California setting as looking nothing like Korea. He said it looked more like Kansas and that shot of Un on the horse bears that out.


It just dawned on me, MASH is why I keep mentally grouping the Koreas in with Southeast Asia even though they're farther apart than Mexico and New York.
2013-04-14 03:39:28 AM
1 votes:

quatchi: starsrift: I'm no equestrial expert, but it looks like a bog standard Arabian (slender, no extra tufts of hair), to me. What makes it not look like an Arabian, to you?

The oddish grey colors, mostly.

It actually looks pretty cool wotever it is.


Mmmh, not so odd. :) Coat colours/patterns on horses aren't usually breed indicators, with some exceptions.
2013-04-14 03:31:26 AM
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Fallout Boy: I think we can decide that for ourselves. We don`t need the news media trying to sell us another war for the purpose of ratings again.


I think that this situation is much different from Iraq. For one the White House isn't driving this, Kim Un is, if anything the White House is downplaying this as much as possible. For another the desperate conditions in North Korea are well known and have been on the internet since forever (in internet years).

I personally don't want us to go into NK, but we may have to if the situation calls for it (NK attacks SK, Japan or whatever). The job would be kicking ass (as we can easily do if we wanted to) and then stepping aside as the locals (SK & China mostly) shoulder the burden of repairs.
2013-04-14 03:22:22 AM
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rynthetyn: The real question is why I've never seen a picture of North Korea that doesn't look to have been taken in winter?


Obama's weather machine.

My dad fought in the Korean War and he used to make fun of MASH's southern California setting as looking nothing like Korea. He said it looked more like Kansas and that shot of Un on the horse bears that out.
2013-04-14 03:18:35 AM
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I think we can decide that for ourselves. We don`t need the news media trying to sell us another war for the purpose of ratings again.
2013-04-14 02:50:33 AM
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Smeggy Smurf: VJStinger: Yaxe: VJStinger: Gyrfalcon: quatchi: DeltaPunch: I'll take this horse.
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Medium rare.

What the hell breed of horse is that anyways?

Don't think I've ever seen it's like.

It's a Horse of a Different Flavor.

Oreo cookie perhaps?

Delicious. Definitely delicious with a bit of teriyaki sauce.

Yes, well everything is better with teriyaki. EVERYTHING!

You misspelled bacon


Wait! Teriyaki bacon. Is that even possible? Has this been done yet? It seems to me the two, when combined, would evaporate in a puff of ethereal deliciousness.
2013-04-14 02:29:10 AM
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quatchi: DeltaPunch: I'll take this horse.
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Medium rare.

What the hell breed of horse is that anyways?

Don't think I've ever seen it's like.


I'm no equestrial expert, but it looks like a bog standard Arabian (slender, no extra tufts of hair), to me. What makes it not look like an Arabian, to you?
2013-04-14 02:14:20 AM
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 I ask for one particular book: 1984?

*golf clap*

Nice.
2013-04-14 02:06:33 AM
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Yeah, probably true, but the Daily Mail?  Really now.
2013-04-14 02:04:37 AM
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"Obvious" tag in a reeducation camp? Because I could have told anyone that without even going there.
 
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