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(Daily Mail)   I've reported from Ceausescu's Romania, Saddam's Iraq, Gaddafi's Libya, Mugabe's Zimbabwe and the Ayatollahs' Iran - but after eight days undercover in North Korea, I believe this regime is the most frightening tyranny of all   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 184
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2013-04-14 01:50:08 PM  
Of course you do, Daily Fail. Go back to printing fluff crap like the Sun.
 
2013-04-14 01:57:41 PM  
The writing on this was bad, and the writer should feel bad. A few examples...

Our hotel boasts five stars, North Korean-style. The lobby is dominated by a painting of Kim Il Sung and his son, Kim Jong Il. Kim The First wears a business suit, the hideous goitre on his neck airbrushed out.

It's a painting, was the goiter painted in before being airbrushed out? As a painting, were the colors retouched from their original hues or were they just painted on like that BECAUSE IT'S A F***ING PAINTING.

Peasants working in a stream in a countryside that resembles a moonscape

A moonscape with the reflection of blue sky in its running rivers? Is this man part of the Retard Exchange program we have going with North Korea?

Outside my hotel room, human ants build a joint venture with a Chinese bank, night and day, day and night.

I think we get it. "Night and day" includes "day" and "night", yes? Just want to be clear here.

Kim Jong Un was born on Elvis's birthday

You mean Frank Nelson Doubleday, American publisher and founded the Doubleday Publishing Company's birthday? What does Elvis have to do with this? About as much as Doubleday.

Mark Fitzpatrick, an American expert on North Korea, says this is the only nation in the world ruled by a dead man. Generalissimo Kim Il Sung is still the leader of the country - a kind of god. It's rule by Zombie and Sons.

Do you mean "it's RULED", or "ITS rule" (without an apostrophe)? I had to stop here, not getting to day three. Sloppy writing and basic grammar error that make sentences nonsensical.

Well done, Daily Fail. Stick to showing fifteen year-old actresses in bikinis and hating immigrants, it's what you're best at.
 
2013-04-14 02:07:39 PM  

Jackpot777: Blah, blah...

Do you mean "it's RULED", or "ITS rule" (without an apostrophe)? I had to stop here, not getting to day three. Sloppy writing and basic grammar error that make sentences nonsensical.


Neither. His structure is perfectly correct and legitimate. Back to 8th Grade with you.
 
2013-04-14 02:12:12 PM  

Rent Party: Oh man, remember back in the day when Weapons of Mass Destruction was a good enough reason to invade some country, and if that didn't work out, well we are gonna liberate them from the world's biggest tin pot dictator and if you disagreed you were an America hatin' terrorist lover?

Remember that?  What happened to all those guys?  Where did they go?   Where are the cries to liberate these people from this WMD collecting tyrant?  What could possibly be different here that would result in such silence on this important topic of American security?

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But they do have trillions of dollars worth of rare earth minerals.  The same rare earth minerals they ship to China for manufacturing and placed in your cell phones and other electronics.  Imagine all of that in the hands of a unified Korea run by an elected republican form of government promoting capitalism and to keep that manufacturing with a close, United States ally.  There is your reason to get rid of Kim Jong Undone.
 
2013-04-14 02:12:14 PM  
Here's the account of a recent visit by Eric Schmidt's daughter. Pretty interesting.

https://sites.google.com/site/sophieinnorthkorea/home

The Potemkin call center is my favorite part.
 
2013-04-14 02:17:58 PM  

Craptastic: FTFA Headline: No ads, no planes, no internet, not a single luxury. Like Robinson Crusoe, as primitive as can be.


Weird Al contributed to the article?

/Gonna party like it's 1699
 
2013-04-14 02:32:41 PM  
the comments are ... special. Obomba wants to turn the U.S. into NK!!  At what point have you lost touch with reality, if you believe that. Talk about brainwashing.
 
2013-04-14 02:36:01 PM  
Doc Lee:

Thanks for the story, it's amazing what people can survive. The narrative would make a great epic book.
 
2013-04-14 03:04:50 PM  

log_jammin: It is not our job to liberate these people. Plain and simple. It twists my gut in knots, but you know it to be true.

Who said it was our job?


Depends.  Does Best Korea have any oil?

If so I'm sure there are lots of people will say we liberate them
 
2013-04-14 03:22:39 PM  

contrapunctus: The comparisons to Nazi Germany are correct.

The conditions inside of a North Korean concentration camp are beyond comprehension. Right now, there are about 40,000 people in Yodok experiencing an absolute hell on earth.Read if you have the stomach for it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yodok_co ncentration_camp


Jesus. I hate to sound like a chest thumping warmongering MURICAn armchair general, but it really sometimes seems like it would be worth the horror of another Korean War to liberate however North Koreans would survive the conflict.

Although I'm sure it's easier for me to say than someone living in Seoul.
 
2013-04-14 03:37:46 PM  
Up on a hill, by yet another Kim statue, the strangest thing happens: I pick up a phone signal from the South only a few kilometres away.
If I can do this, so can a North Korean. The digital revolution is eating away at the regime's control - and that makes it harder to keep people brainwashed.


Except for the whole issue where North Koreans don't have cell phones.
 
2013-04-14 03:41:03 PM  

BSABSVR: Up on a hill, by yet another Kim statue, the strangest thing happens: I pick up a phone signal from the South only a few kilometres away.
If I can do this, so can a North Korean. The digital revolution is eating away at the regime's control - and that makes it harder to keep people brainwashed.

Except for the whole issue where North Koreans don't have cell phones.


Cells phones are small and there are these people called smugglers who will do illegal things for money.
 
2013-04-14 03:53:17 PM  

Jackpot777: The writing on this was bad, and the writer should feel bad. A few examples...


I liked this one myself:
The tourist coach is a great tool of totalitarian power: one microphone, one exit.

It's an old bus.  Settle the fark down.  My car allows me to control the radio from my steering wheel, and on the driver's door I can override my passengers' window preferences and even lock them in!  It's not a symbol of incipient fascism.  It's just a car.

North Korea is an obviously shiatty place, it shouldn't be this much work to find metaphors.
 
2013-04-14 03:56:42 PM  

Arthur Jumbles: BSABSVR: Up on a hill, by yet another Kim statue, the strangest thing happens: I pick up a phone signal from the South only a few kilometres away.
If I can do this, so can a North Korean. The digital revolution is eating away at the regime's control - and that makes it harder to keep people brainwashed.

Except for the whole issue where North Koreans don't have cell phones.

Cells phones are small and there are these people called smugglers who will do illegal things for money.


Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.
 
2013-04-14 04:05:01 PM  
BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.


Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...
 
2013-04-14 04:09:22 PM  

Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...


I'm OK with this, actually.
 
2013-04-14 04:15:14 PM  

VJStinger: Yaxe: VJStinger: Gyrfalcon: quatchi: DeltaPunch: I'll take this horse.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x514]
Medium rare.

What the hell breed of horse is that anyways?

Don't think I've ever seen it's like.

It's a Horse of a Different Flavor.

Oreo cookie perhaps?

Delicious. Definitely delicious with a bit of teriyaki sauce.

Yes, well everything is better with teriyaki. EVERYTHING!


www.futuramaoutlet.com
 
2013-04-14 04:18:21 PM  

log_jammin: VJStinger: log_jammin: VJStinger: log_jammin: VJStinger: LordJiro: neongoats: LewDux: Just another people's democracy demonized by mainstream MSM media for not tap-dancing to military-industrial complex whims and having the guts to stand-up to AmeiKKa Wake up sheeple

Troll troll. Looks more like a prime example of what happens when your entire GDP is spent sucking military cock.

Well, and when you're ruled by several lunatic dictators in a row, and everyone's too afraid of pissing off China to do anything beyond sending strongly-worded letters.

It is not our job to liberate these people. Plain and simple. It twists my gut in knots, but you know it to be true.

Who said it was our job?

That is a loaded question but I'll bite for a sec. Might have something to do with that last asshole that made it his personal mission to spread democracy, whether the people wanted it or not, all over the globe. you know, greeted as liberators while we chip away at our own liberty at home. so they can laugh at us.

It's not a loaded question. You said "it's not our job to liberate these people" as if someone had said "it's our job to liberate these people" so I just wanted to know who said that. That last asshole isn't commenting in the thread, or any place for that matter, let alone in any position of authority, so I'm not sure why you brought him up.

So...any other straw men you care to knock down?

no, you've pretty much covered it, just don't ever pursue a career in diplomacy please. Ever.

Right. Your strawman means I don't understand diplomacy. You betchya.


Naw. I think it just means it's that time of the month for you.
 
2013-04-14 04:26:09 PM  

zerkalo: Need to find someone who wants to shoot and kill this sumbiatch. Then he join the others. But who wants the reins?


Me, I'll take it.
 
2013-04-14 04:41:27 PM  

namatad: Doc Lee: Psyops need to be a lot stronger if you want a popular uprising.  If I were in charge, I'd find a way to blanket the country with cell coverage and start dropping cell phones with Internet access all over the countryside.  Let the people clue in on the outside world.  The people need to be I un-brainwashed but that can only really happen if they come to accept that they are brainwashed in the first place.

wouldnt take a lot to unbrainwash them
take 100 on a tour of seoul, give them an unlimited credit card.
between clothes and food shopping, they would die, rather than return to the best korea

/imagine your average starving NK who might have meat once a week to once a month going to a korean BBQ in seoul??!!!
/the side dishes would make them weep. the meat platter arriving would break their hearts.
/plus they would see all the tall, plump/muscled south koreans and wonder who all the giants were!


What's funny is this post was right under this image:

images.sodahead.com

I can't help but wonder if the South Korean leaflet campaigns (if they ever start again) would be more effective if they just showed images of how much better the outside world is compared to North Korea.
 
2013-04-14 04:42:01 PM  

Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...


How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.
 
2013-04-14 04:46:37 PM  

quatchi: DeltaPunch: I'll take this horse.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x514]
Medium rare.

What the hell breed of horse is that anyways?

Don't think I've ever seen it's like.


Appaloosa.  My cat has one.
 
2013-04-14 04:48:52 PM  
Holy fark, this thread went to Free Republic derp fast
 
2013-04-14 04:48:53 PM  

SurelyShirley: On the other hand, I'm pretty sure you can take a group of tourists to a hospital in the UK to gawk at the patients, right?


I'm quite sure you would be aware of the fact that patients are there... you know, like visitors or patients being transported from room to x-ray or other testing and back again, food service, patients actually walking around.  Hospital patients are frequently mobile and like to get out of their beds and walk around. Being in a hospital without any evidence of actual patients would be incredibly creepy and it's a little disturbing that you take the story as "hurr durr, he wasn't allowed to go into patient rooms and gawk at the sick people" as opposed to "there was zero activity that indicated the existence of patients."
 
2013-04-14 04:59:10 PM  
Daily Mail bullshiat, pics are probably shopped to match the made up story.

FTA:
"The lobby is dominated by a painting of Kim Il Sung and his son, Kim Jong Il. Kim The First wears a business suit, the hideous goitre on his neck airbrushed out."

Why in the King Hell would you airbrush out something on a painting? Why wouldn't you just not paint it?

Daily Mail propaganda, brought to you by Drew Curtis and his need for money, America be damned. Death to Tories.
 
2013-04-14 05:06:39 PM  

1stgenwhtrash: HMS_Blinkin: VJStinger: It is not our job to liberate these people. Plain and simple. It twists my gut in knots, but you know it to be true.

Of course not.  But if Lil' Kim crosses the line, we may be forced to do so.  Honestly, all we'd have to do would be bomb military and government command and control centers.  That regime is so farking shaky.


We have to assume that the regime is shaky, and I hope more than anything that we're right. Looking at the Soviet system and its satellites before their collapse makes that system seem like a paradise compared to the ongoing conditions in Best Korea. But the Soviet collapse might not be the right comparison. If anything, North Korea is far more insulated than any other regime in recent history.

What bothers me is the possibility that the Kims have found the perfect combination of fear, isolation and oppression for their particular population. What happens if their system is something that's built to last? Reaching further back in history, there are a few examples of authoritarian regimes lasting for hundreds or thousands of years. The pharoahs in Egypt and the Spartans with their terror and domination of the Helots come to mind. Of course, these were ancient regimes, and not surrounded by nations and people with better ideas on how people should be governed. But again, we go back to how successful the Kims have been in keeping these ideas away from the people.


But the Pharaohs were more than one dynasty- it's not like one family held the reigns for thousands of years, there were thirty odd dynasties, including some foreign conquerors who set up dynasties.. The last dynasty was Macedonian- Alexander the Great's general Ptolemy (and there were officially 13 of them, the dynasty lasted for just shy of 300 years- not a bad run). The Spartans, on the other hand, had to deal with pretty regular revolts from the Helots, and only held control over them for a bit better than 500 years (from at least 800 until Epamonidas, I think, in the 4th century). Both there you have one population controlling another- the Helots were mostly Messinians, from the city of Messina which the Spartans conquered around 800, and "helot" may just mean "captive." The Spartan system of government changed in that time, so it's not really comparable either.
 
2013-04-14 05:07:47 PM  

Brian Ryanberger: Daily Mail bullshiat, pics are probably shopped to match the made up story.

FTA:
"The lobby is dominated by a painting of Kim Il Sung and his son, Kim Jong Il. Kim The First wears a business suit, the hideous goitre on his neck airbrushed out."

Why in the King Hell would you airbrush out something on a painting? Why wouldn't you just not paint it?

Daily Mail propaganda, brought to you by Drew Curtis and his need for money, America be damned. Death to Tories.


That's the weakest troll attempt I've ever seen.

-∞/0
 
2013-04-14 05:25:50 PM  

Rent Party: www.ecoterra.org


North Korea has a few trillion dollar's worth of rare earth metals sitting under the ground. Some of which are a bit more valuable than oil.

and Natasha: But the Pharaohs were more than one dynasty-


And over time there was a lot of difference between dynasties. Indeed exactly what constituted proper religious observance kept changing.
 
2013-04-14 05:32:43 PM  

namatad: Doc Lee: Psyops need to be a lot stronger if you want a popular uprising.  If I were in charge, I'd find a way to blanket the country with cell coverage and start dropping cell phones with Internet access all over the countryside.  Let the people clue in on the outside world.  The people need to be I un-brainwashed but that can only really happen if they come to accept that they are brainwashed in the first place.

wouldnt take a lot to unbrainwash them
take 100 on a tour of seoul, give them an unlimited credit card.
between clothes and food shopping, they would die, rather than return to the best korea

/imagine your average starving NK who might have meat once a week to once a month going to a korean BBQ in seoul??!!!
/the side dishes would make them weep. the meat platter arriving would break their hearts.
/plus they would see all the tall, plump/muscled south koreans and wonder who all the giants were!


Actually, not necessarily. There's a fairly decent number of defectors who get homesick, have trouble adapting to the craziness of Seoul, and decide to go back to the North. It may be a crappy place, but when it's the crappy place that you're from, well, the draw of home is powerful.
 
2013-04-14 05:35:18 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.


Fine.  Just do OLPNK (one laptop per north korean) with distributed wifi meshes.

/probably need some hand crank generators too

Store and forward, baby.

/heck, even FIDOnet would be a step up
 
2013-04-14 05:41:55 PM  

1stgenwhtrash: What bothers me is the possibility that the Kims have found the perfect combination of fear, isolation and oppression for their particular population. What happens if their system is something that's built to last? Reaching further back in history, there are a few examples of authoritarian regimes lasting for hundreds or thousands of years. The pharoahs in Egypt and the Spartans with their terror and domination of the Helots come to mind. Of course, these were ancient regimes, and not surrounded by nations and people with better ideas on how people should be governed. But again, we go back to how successful the Kims have been in keeping these ideas away from the people.


In general, kingdoms run by self-proclaimed god-emperors (of the ilk of North Korea) have tended to fare...poorly when major famines and national bankruptcy have hit, and (either via invasion or uprising) the god-emperor-wannabes soon find they've lost the Mandate of Heaven, so to speak.

(Pretty much there were at least two major periods of collapse in Egypt's history, and they ended up being taken over first by the Greeks and later by the caliphates; Imperial-era China (which is honestly the best comparison to what's going on in North Korea, seeing as the Kims ARE pretty blatantly ripping off Korean mythology regarding the restoration of the Korean monarchy to declare themselves as god-kings) had multiple cycles of imperial collapse (some by insurrection--the "Revocation of the Mandate of Heaven" I mentioned--some by invasion, and the insurrections were often triggered by famine; there's traditions in both China and Korea that it's a Sign From The Powers That Be That It's Time For A Revolution when mass famine strikes, because Obviously The Gods No Longer Approve Of The Human In Charge).  Sparta (and the Helots) eventually got the shiat liberated out of them by an Ancient Greek City-State Coalition Of The Willing founded by Athens, and in fact Athens both during and after the Spartan War actively encouraged Helot rebellions.)

Kim Jong-Un may well be the self-proclaimed god-emperor of what is literally considered to be the working model of how coercive religious groups work (yes, seriously--some of the initial studies of the sorts of thought reform used by the likes of Scientology, the Moonies, and the NARasites have stemmed from studies of "thought reform" as practiced in Best Korea) but he has forgotten one very, very important thing:

There is always--always--someone bigger than you out there.
 
2013-04-14 06:06:50 PM  

Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...


Difficulty the Second: There IS no cell network in North Korea at this time--there was one (which only foreigners and party officials had access to) but it got shut down about the time Kim Jong-I-Just-Squeezed-Out-A-Big-Un went full derpguk (It would be an actual grave insult to persons with intellectual disabilities to compare them to the Kims--we'd have to possibly go with "GIVE FETUSES AK47s" levels of dominionist derp for an accurate comparison).   Yoiu'd need sat phones, at minimum.

Difficulty the Third: Pretty much anyone who is in Best Korea who is not trying to find a way out or who is not on an involuntary family vacation at Kim Il-Sung Happy Re-Education Camp For Juche #14 (more on that in a bit) is...well...in pretty much the same general situation as someone who was raised in Jonestown or in a compound of a similar apocalyptic coercive religious group.  (I've said it before, I'll say it again--once North Korea gets the shiat liberated out of it, the one thing they will need as much as refeeding and infrastructure will be exit counselors...a SHIATLOAD of exit counselors.)

Difficulty the Fourth: As the Kims have tried to style themselves as the Very Model Of A Modern God-Emperorship In The Asian Style, they also still have a thing from the God-Emperorships of Old known as "Ten Generations Punishment"...which means that if you fark up in the eyes of the government (and pretty much having a satellite phone from The Declared Enemy is the very farking definition of having Farked Up Majorly) not only you, but your entire extended family (including grandparents, grandkids, second cousins once removed, the whole farking lot) and pretty much anyone who is known to have associated with you gets sent on an involuntary lifelong family vacation to Kim Jong-Il Memorial Happy Fun Re-Education Camp #14 (which is about as "happy" and "fun" as, say, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is "democratic" or a "republic"--I would legitimately go so far as to say that "Happy Camp" in this case is about as entertaining as, say, Auschwitz-II Birkenau circa June 1943 with about as much chance of Work Setting You Free).

Difficulty the Fifth: Assuming you managed to find the one Best Korean fearless and wily enough to both happily use a satellite phone dropped from the skies and NOT report it to the block warden (yes, these exist, in a setup not unlike that of "cell churches" and in Best Korea one is ALWAYS supposed to report things Out Of The Ordinary to the Block Warden lest...well...you and ALL your friends get a free involuntary permanent family vacation at Kim Il-Sung Memorial Happy Fun Re-Education Camp #14) and somehow manage to NOT win a free trip at gunpoint to Kim Il-Sung Memorial Happy Fun Re-Education Camp #14 with their family and friends...that sat-phone is going to run out of juice in a few hours.  Pretty much no part of Best Korea has regular electricity outside of Pyongyang and various monuments to the Kims.  Methinks that the Kim Il-Sung Museum To The Basketball That Michael Jordan Touched That Was Gifted As Tribute By The US President is not going to let Mr. Target-on-his-ass recharge his satellite phone without a LOT of questions likely to result in Mr. Target-on-his-ass and ALL his family and friends getting an express pre-paid trip...to Kim Il-Sung Memorial Happy Fun Re-Education Camp #14.  (Notice a wee bit of a theme here?)
 
2013-04-14 06:18:19 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.


As I said before, you'd need to find a way to blanket cover them with service. It's not too great an area and there are a lot of sparsely populated areas that could be ignored. Mesh networking would also be an option. As long as the signal can get to the outside, that's basically all that is needed.
 
2013-04-14 06:36:51 PM  

Great Porn Dragon: Words...


Read up thread. You're talking to somebody whose relatives lived it. I hope that you didn't honestly think that I was advocating the use of DPRK's cell network. It's not accurate to describe them as being like the people of Jonestown. The fact is that they are ignorant of the world that exists beyond their borders. They believe that life is better in the DPRK because its all they've ever known. It used to be that way. After the Korean conflict, the North was better off financially and economically than the South. This is why information is key. But, it can't just be information that you pump over a radio station or loud speaker. The people need to discover it on their own. Change comes from within.
 
2013-04-14 07:15:06 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Rent Party: www.ecoterra.org

North Korea has a few trillion dollar's worth of rare earth metals sitting under the ground. Some of which are a bit more valuable than oil.

and Natasha: But the Pharaohs were more than one dynasty-

And over time there was a lot of difference between dynasties. Indeed exactly what constituted proper religious observance kept changing.


Give it time... with all of the people carbon they are burying depositing in large graves caverns, they are well on their way to a war crimes tribunal giant oil reserve.
 
2013-04-14 07:20:44 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.


If only we had objects floating in space that could be used to provide communications access in areas where setting up land-based communication may be difficult.
 
2013-04-14 07:24:19 PM  

namatad: Doc Lee: Psyops need to be a lot stronger if you want a popular uprising.  If I were in charge, I'd find a way to blanket the country with cell coverage and start dropping cell phones with Internet access all over the countryside.  Let the people clue in on the outside world.  The people need to be I un-brainwashed but that can only really happen if they come to accept that they are brainwashed in the first place.

wouldnt take a lot to unbrainwash them
take 100 on a tour of seoul, give them an unlimited credit card.
between clothes and food shopping, they would die, rather than return to the best korea

/imagine your average starving NK who might have meat once a week to once a month going to a korean BBQ in seoul??!!!
/the side dishes would make them weep. the meat platter arriving would break their hearts.
/plus they would see all the tall, plump/muscled south koreans and wonder who all the giants were!


You really need to check out the stories of people who try to leave the FLDS.

Many, many people have gone to extraordinary measures to get out, only to go right back.
 
2013-04-14 07:35:19 PM  

Doc Lee: Great Porn Dragon: Words...

Read up thread. You're talking to somebody whose relatives lived it. I hope that you didn't honestly think that I was advocating the use of DPRK's cell network. It's not accurate to describe them as being like the people of Jonestown. The fact is that they are ignorant of the world that exists beyond their borders. They believe that life is better in the DPRK because its all they've ever known. It used to be that way. After the Korean conflict, the North was better off financially and economically than the South. This is why information is key. But, it can't just be information that you pump over a radio station or loud speaker. The people need to discover it on their own. Change comes from within.


Not to mention that people are inclined to think that where they're from is great even when there is plenty of outside evidence to the contrary.
 
2013-04-14 07:49:53 PM  

DeltaPunch: I'll take this horse.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x514]
Medium rare.

x27.xanga.com

I'll take the dog. Medium rare.
 
2013-04-14 07:51:16 PM  

Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...



Are you going to air drop in the cell towers and mobile network, too?  Because a cell phone without that is called a paperweight.
 
2013-04-14 07:53:18 PM  

dave2198: Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.

If only we had objects floating in space that could be used to provide communications access in areas where setting up land-based communication may be difficult.


You tihnk your cell phone can reach a satellite?

Lolz!
 
2013-04-14 07:57:36 PM  

Rent Party: dave2198: Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.

If only we had objects floating in space that could be used to provide communications access in areas where setting up land-based communication may be difficult.

You tihnk your cell phone can reach a satellite?

Lolz!


You think cell phones are the only type of phone?

Lolz!
 
2013-04-14 07:58:40 PM  

dave2198: Rent Party: dave2198: Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.

If only we had objects floating in space that could be used to provide communications access in areas where setting up land-based communication may be difficult.

You tihnk your cell phone can reach a satellite?

Lolz!

You think cell phones are the only type of phone?

Lolz!


The Iridium satellite constellation.
 
2013-04-14 08:00:10 PM  

dopirt: dave2198: Rent Party: dave2198: Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.

If only we had objects floating in space that could be used to provide communications access in areas where setting up land-based communication may be difficult.

You tihnk your cell phone can reach a satellite?

Lolz!

You think cell phones are the only type of phone?

Lolz!

The Iridium satellite constellation.

 
Your cell phone doesn't speak to that.  Ever.  You should just say "I don't know how cell phones work" and be done with it.
 
2013-04-14 08:01:20 PM  

Rent Party: dopirt: dave2198: Rent Party: dave2198: Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.

If only we had objects floating in space that could be used to provide communications access in areas where setting up land-based communication may be difficult.

You tihnk your cell phone can reach a satellite?

Lolz!

You think cell phones are the only type of phone?

Lolz!

The Iridium satellite constellation.
 
Your cell phone doesn't speak to that.  Ever.  You should just say "I don't know how cell phones work" and be done with it.


You seem to be the only person restricting this conversation to cell phones.

As if that is the only possible way of communicating with people.
 
2013-04-14 08:02:28 PM  

dave2198: Rent Party: dave2198: Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.

If only we had objects floating in space that could be used to provide communications access in areas where setting up land-based communication may be difficult.

You tihnk your cell phone can reach a satellite?

Lolz!

You think cell phones are the only type of phone?

Lolz!


Are you moving the goal posts, now?  You're going to drop a sat phone for everyone?   Lets see what that does to this preposterous bit of supposition...

A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.

You should probably adjust your math now that you've adjusted the technology.
 
2013-04-14 08:04:55 PM  

dave2198: Rent Party: dopirt: dave2198: Rent Party: dave2198: Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.

If only we had objects floating in space that could be used to provide communications access in areas where setting up land-based communication may be difficult.

You tihnk your cell phone can reach a satellite?

Lolz!

You think cell phones are the only type of phone?

Lolz!

The Iridium satellite constellation.
 
Your cell phone doesn't speak to that.  Ever.  You should just say "I don't know how cell phones work" and be done with it.

You seem to be the only person restricting this conversation to cell phones.


Who wrote this?

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.

I didn't build that particular goal post, but you are the one trying to move it around.

As if that is the only possible way of communicating with people.

Well go ahead and give us your plan for dropping sat phones into NK, then.   Because I'm sure it would be completely doable and make complete and total sense.   Almost as much sense as dropping cell phones, in fact.
 
2013-04-14 08:08:05 PM  

Rent Party: dave2198: Rent Party: dave2198: Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.

If only we had objects floating in space that could be used to provide communications access in areas where setting up land-based communication may be difficult.

You tihnk your cell phone can reach a satellite?

Lolz!

You think cell phones are the only type of phone?

Lolz!

Are you moving the goal posts, now?  You're going to drop a sat phone for everyone?   Lets see what that does to this preposterous bit of supposition...

A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.

You should probably adjust your math now that you've adjusted the technology.


I never set the goalposts, because I am not the person who posted the original idea. You would know that if you could read.
 
2013-04-14 08:12:07 PM  

Rent Party: dave2198: Rent Party: dopirt: dave2198: Rent Party: dave2198: Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.

If only we had objects floating in space that could be used to provide communications access in areas where setting up land-based communication may be difficult.

You tihnk your cell phone can reach a satellite?

Lolz!

You think cell phones are the only type of phone?

Lolz!

The Iridium satellite constellation.
 
Your cell phone doesn't speak to that.  Ever.  You should just say "I don't know how cell phones work" and be done with it.

You seem to be the only person restricting this conversation to cell phones.

Who wrote this?

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.

I didn't build that particular goal post, but you are the one trying to move it around.

As if that is the only possible way of communicating with people.

Well go ahead and give us your plan for dropping sat phones into NK, then.   Because I'm sure it would be completely doable and make complete and total sense.   Almost as much sense as dropping cell phones, in fact.


I was merely pointing out that giving up on the idea of giving the NK people communication devices because they don't have cell phone service is "hrr-drr" retarded. At least try to be a little creative.

Or, you know, continue to troll on the internet and pick silly fights for no goddamned reason.

That works too.
 
2013-04-14 08:25:27 PM  

Rent Party: You tihnk your cell phone can reach a satellite?

Lolz!


www.iridium.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridium_satellite_constellation

/although I sort of think Iridium's business  model would be stressed by a few million free phones added to the system
 
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