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(Daily Mail)   I've reported from Ceausescu's Romania, Saddam's Iraq, Gaddafi's Libya, Mugabe's Zimbabwe and the Ayatollahs' Iran - but after eight days undercover in North Korea, I believe this regime is the most frightening tyranny of all   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 186
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2013-04-14 08:12:07 PM  

Rent Party: dave2198: Rent Party: dopirt: dave2198: Rent Party: dave2198: Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.

If only we had objects floating in space that could be used to provide communications access in areas where setting up land-based communication may be difficult.

You tihnk your cell phone can reach a satellite?

Lolz!

You think cell phones are the only type of phone?

Lolz!

The Iridium satellite constellation.
 
Your cell phone doesn't speak to that.  Ever.  You should just say "I don't know how cell phones work" and be done with it.

You seem to be the only person restricting this conversation to cell phones.

Who wrote this?

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.

I didn't build that particular goal post, but you are the one trying to move it around.

As if that is the only possible way of communicating with people.

Well go ahead and give us your plan for dropping sat phones into NK, then.   Because I'm sure it would be completely doable and make complete and total sense.   Almost as much sense as dropping cell phones, in fact.


I was merely pointing out that giving up on the idea of giving the NK people communication devices because they don't have cell phone service is "hrr-drr" retarded. At least try to be a little creative.

Or, you know, continue to troll on the internet and pick silly fights for no goddamned reason.

That works too.
 
2013-04-14 08:25:27 PM  

Rent Party: You tihnk your cell phone can reach a satellite?

Lolz!


www.iridium.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridium_satellite_constellation

/although I sort of think Iridium's business  model would be stressed by a few million free phones added to the system
 
2013-04-14 08:33:02 PM  
btw, Osama bin Ladin supposedly had an iridium phone.  Reported in the German press as  phone number 00873-682505331.

Wonder who has his number now
 
2013-04-14 08:33:28 PM  

Kevin72: DeltaPunch: I'll take this horse.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x514]
Medium rare.
[x27.xanga.com image 491x555]

I'll take the dog. Medium rare.


You don't want medium rare dog, there's a trichinosis danger with undercooked dog.
 
2013-04-14 08:45:38 PM  

and Natasha: 1stgenwhtrash: HMS_Blinkin: VJStinger: It is not our job to liberate these people. Plain and simple. It twists my gut in knots, but you know it to be true.

Of course not.  But if Lil' Kim crosses the line, we may be forced to do so.  Honestly, all we'd have to do would be bomb military and government command and control centers.  That regime is so farking shaky.


We have to assume that the regime is shaky, and I hope more than anything that we're right. Looking at the Soviet system and its satellites before their collapse makes that system seem like a paradise compared to the ongoing conditions in Best Korea. But the Soviet collapse might not be the right comparison. If anything, North Korea is far more insulated than any other regime in recent history.

What bothers me is the possibility that the Kims have found the perfect combination of fear, isolation and oppression for their particular population. What happens if their system is something that's built to last? Reaching further back in history, there are a few examples of authoritarian regimes lasting for hundreds or thousands of years. The pharoahs in Egypt and the Spartans with their terror and domination of the Helots come to mind. Of course, these were ancient regimes, and not surrounded by nations and people with better ideas on how people should be governed. But again, we go back to how successful the Kims have been in keeping these ideas away from the people.

But the Pharaohs were more than one dynasty- it's not like one family held the reigns for thousands of years, there were thirty odd dynasties, including some foreign conquerors who set up dynasties.. The last dynasty was Macedonian- Alexander the Great's general Ptolemy (and there were officially 13 of them, the dynasty lasted for just shy of 300 years- not a bad run). The Spartans, on the other hand, had to deal with pretty regular revolts from the Helots, and only held control over them for a bit better than 500 years (from at least 800 until Ep ...


I brought up the helots due to their overwhelming numbers compared to the Spartan citizens. The ritual humiliations and state sanctioned murders (helot season!) kept them in line for an amazing amount of time. I could only find one rebellion of note before the Athenians and others--as Great Porn Dragon--notes below--came on the scene. That was the Great Earthquake of 464 BC. But honestly I didn't look into it too deeply.

Regarding the Egyptians, I think my point was that the system of Pharaoh as the God King and his subjects as slaves lasted for a very long time, passing on from one dynasty to the next. Certainly there were rebellions and the chain wasn't unbroken, but the system managed to perpetuate itself.

Now we have the Kims. And barring outside interference. How long can they and/or their replacements last?
 
2013-04-14 08:51:30 PM  
From Natchez to Mobile, from Memphis to St. Joe, the author's seen him some big towns, he's seen him some bad cats.
 
2013-04-14 09:02:05 PM  

dave2198: Rent Party: dopirt: dave2198: Rent Party: dave2198: Mad_Radhu: Doc Lee: BSABSVR:
Money grows on trees in North Korea, and contraband and people flow freely over the border.  The average citizen is just waiting to buy cell phones and blu ray players with his or her massive surplus of funding.

After my belly is filled with the finest mud and grass, my first priority is  clearly going to be a doodad that can get me killed.

Air drop them into the NK.  A cell phone for every citizen at cost would be less than $1 billion.  That's a lot cheaper than involving ourselves in a land war in Asia...

How do you activate service? If there is even a Best Korea cell network, it is government controlled and you would have to contact them to activate the SIM and IMEI. Only the border areas would have a weak signal leaking in from China and Worst Korea.

If only we had objects floating in space that could be used to provide communications access in areas where setting up land-based communication may be difficult.

You tihnk your cell phone can reach a satellite?

Lolz!

You think cell phones are the only type of phone?

Lolz!

The Iridium satellite constellation.
 
Your cell phone doesn't speak to that.  Ever.  You should just say "I don't know how cell phones work" and be done with it.

You seem to be the only person restricting this conversation to cell phones.

As if that is the only possible way of communicating with people.


Well, yeah, but the North Koreans would eat carrier pigeons, so that's out.
 
2013-04-14 09:08:07 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Well, yeah, but the North Koreans would eat carrier pigeons, so that's out.


Hmm, another flaw with my plan of using FidoNet....
 
2013-04-14 09:09:51 PM  

Great Porn Dragon: 1stgenwhtrash:
In general, kingdoms run by self-proclaimed god-emperors (of the ilk of North Korea) have tended to fare...poorly when major famines and national bankruptcy have hit, and (either via invasion or uprising) the god-emperor-wannabes soon find they've lost the Mandate of Heaven, so to speak.

(Pretty much there were at least two major periods of collapse in Egypt's history, and they ended up being taken over first by the Greeks and later by the caliphates; Imperial-era China (which is honestly the best comparison to what's going on in North Korea, seeing as the Kims ARE pretty blatantly ripping off Korean mythology regarding the restoration of the Korean monarchy to declare themselves as god-kings) had multiple cycles of imperial collapse (some by insurrection--the "Revocation of the Mandate of Heaven" I mentioned--some by invasion, and the insurrections were often triggered by famine; there's traditions in both China and Korea that it's a Sign From The Powers That Be That It's Time For A Revolution when mass famine strikes, because Obviously The Gods No Longer Approve Of The Human In Charge).  Sparta (and the Helots) eventually got the shiat liberated out of them by an Ancient Greek City-State Coalition Of The Willing founded by Athens, and in fact Athens both during and after the Sparta

n War actively encouraged Helot rebellions.)

Kim Jong-Un may well be the self-proclaimed god-emperor of what isliterally considered to be the working model of how coercive religious groups work (yes, seriously--some of the initial studies of the sorts of thought reform used by the likes of Scientology, the Moonies, and the NARasites have stemmed from studies of "thought reform" as practiced in Best Korea) but he has forgotten one very, very important thing:

There is always--always--someone bigger than you out there.


In this case the big regional power happens to be China. I believe it's going to be their Mandate to Revoke, or not, in Best Korea. It's been pointed out that they don't want a unified US ally on their border. Nor do they want a famine/civil war situation on their hands. On the other hand, North Korea, as an ally, has a history of being ungrateful and difficult to manage. Kim Il Sung never once acknowledged that the Chinese 100% saved his ass during the Korean war. Some of our men were pissing in the Yalu river when the Chinese sprung their trap.
 
2013-04-14 09:12:27 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Gyrfalcon: Well, yeah, but the North Koreans would eat carrier pigeons, so that's out.

Hmm, another flaw with my plan of using FidoNet....


New plan: release packs of animals into North Korea, with little bags around their necks full of cocaine, labeled "salt," and guns strapped to their backs. I want to see NK deal with an entire population high on coke with guns.

I know, I know... that much coke is expensive.
 
2013-04-14 09:33:43 PM  

rynthetyn: Kevin72: DeltaPunch: I'll take this horse.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x514]
Medium rare.
[x27.xanga.com image 491x555]

I'll take the dog. Medium rare.

You don't want medium rare dog, there's a trichinosis danger with undercooked dog.


Just kidding. I ate dog meat once in Vietnam to say I did it. Worst thing I ever did. Will never ever do it again. Felt sick physically plus the guilt of eating a Fido. Guide told me I was eating shoulder meat. In retrospect, shoulder meat, WTF?. I did not eat the thing that looked like chicken drumsticks. Because I knew it was doglegs. Gotta go hide my head in shame now after admitting this again.
 
2013-04-14 09:39:33 PM  

Kevin72: rynthetyn: Kevin72: DeltaPunch: I'll take this horse.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x514]
Medium rare.
[x27.xanga.com image 491x555]

I'll take the dog. Medium rare.

You don't want medium rare dog, there's a trichinosis danger with undercooked dog.

Just kidding. I ate dog meat once in Vietnam to say I did it. Worst thing I ever did. Will never ever do it again. Felt sick physically plus the guilt of eating a Fido. Guide told me I was eating shoulder meat. In retrospect, shoulder meat, WTF?. I did not eat the thing that looked like chicken drumsticks. Because I knew it was doglegs. Gotta go hide my head in shame now after admitting this again.


myrescuedogrescuedme.files.wordpress.com
Was it served on a plate of tender bamboo?
 
2013-04-14 09:53:54 PM  

Arthur Jumbles: Kevin72: rynthetyn: Kevin72: DeltaPunch: I'll take this horse.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x514]
Medium rare.
[x27.xanga.com image 491x555]

I'll take the dog. Medium rare.

You don't want medium rare dog, there's a trichinosis danger with undercooked dog.

Just kidding. I ate dog meat once in Vietnam to say I did it. Worst thing I ever did. Will never ever do it again. Felt sick physically plus the guilt of eating a Fido. Guide told me I was eating shoulder meat. In retrospect, shoulder meat, WTF?. I did not eat the thing that looked like chicken drumsticks. Because I knew it was doglegs. Gotta go hide my head in shame now after admitting this again.

[myrescuedogrescuedme.files.wordpress.com image 506x689]
Was it served on a plate of tender bamboo?


Just on a regular plate at a regular restaurant with regular Vietnamese eating dog at a dog restaurant like any other day. I was the only thing out of place though I'm low key and no one noticed. I'll stick to eating snake.
 
2013-04-14 10:00:47 PM  

log_jammin: OK dad...


www.mst3ktemple.com

I'm your MOTHER now, Frank!
 
2013-04-14 10:07:20 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Rent Party: You tihnk your cell phone can reach a satellite?

Lolz!

[www.iridium.com image 189x99]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridium_satellite_constellation

/although I sort of think Iridium's business  model would be stressed by a few million free phones added to the system


I hate repeating myself, but your cell phone, or any cell phone for that matter, will never talk to that satellite system.

Sat phones are not cell phones are not sat phones.  Repeat that until you understand you don't know how cell phones work.
 
2013-04-14 10:07:27 PM  

Kevin72: Arthur Jumbles: Kevin72: rynthetyn: Kevin72: DeltaPunch: I'll take this horse.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x514]
Medium rare.
[x27.xanga.com image 491x555]

I'll take the dog. Medium rare.

You don't want medium rare dog, there's a trichinosis danger with undercooked dog.

Just kidding. I ate dog meat once in Vietnam to say I did it. Worst thing I ever did. Will never ever do it again. Felt sick physically plus the guilt of eating a Fido. Guide told me I was eating shoulder meat. In retrospect, shoulder meat, WTF?. I did not eat the thing that looked like chicken drumsticks. Because I knew it was doglegs. Gotta go hide my head in shame now after admitting this again.

[myrescuedogrescuedme.files.wordpress.com image 506x689]
Was it served on a plate of tender bamboo?

Just on a regular plate at a regular restaurant with regular Vietnamese eating dog at a dog restaurant like any other day. I was the only thing out of place though I'm low key and no one noticed. I'll stick to eating snake.


Meh, think dog's pretty tasty. Sounds like your guide didn't take you to a place that serves it in the traditional way--there's seven traditional Vietnamese dog dishes, none of which look like eating a chicken drumstick. I'm kind of so-so about the sausage, and hate the vertebra soup (tastes like wet dog smells), but the other traditional dog dishes are pretty decent. I particularly like roasted and thinly sliced meat, it tastes rather reminiscent of a nice roast beef.
 
2013-04-14 10:34:29 PM  

rynthetyn: Kevin72: Arthur Jumbles: Kevin72: rynthetyn: Kevin72: DeltaPunch: I'll take this horse.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x514]
Medium rare.
[x27.xanga.com image 491x555]

I'll take the dog. Medium rare.

You don't want medium rare dog, there's a trichinosis danger with undercooked dog.

Just kidding. I ate dog meat once in Vietnam to say I did it. Worst thing I ever did. Will never ever do it again. Felt sick physically plus the guilt of eating a Fido. Guide told me I was eating shoulder meat. In retrospect, shoulder meat, WTF?. I did not eat the thing that looked like chicken drumsticks. Because I knew it was doglegs. Gotta go hide my head in shame now after admitting this again.

[myrescuedogrescuedme.files.wordpress.com image 506x689]
Was it served on a plate of tender bamboo?

Just on a regular plate at a regular restaurant with regular Vietnamese eating dog at a dog restaurant like any other day. I was the only thing out of place though I'm low key and no one noticed. I'll stick to eating snake.

Meh, think dog's pretty tasty. Sounds like your guide didn't take you to a place that serves it in the traditional way--there's seven traditional Vietnamese dog dishes, none of which look like eating a chicken drumstick. I'm kind of so-so about the sausage, and hate the vertebra soup (tastes like wet dog smells), but the other traditional dog dishes are pretty decent. I particularly like roasted and thinly sliced meat, it tastes rather reminiscent of a nice roast beef.


Sounds like he took me to the blue-collar working class dog place. If it mattered, I would look to go upscale. I did it once, will not do again. I will stick to Phô Tai and mång cut.
 
2013-04-14 10:56:56 PM  
We should "bomb" NK with hundreds of thousands of radios (for propaganda broadcasts) , tens of thousands of "assault weapons", high capacity magazines, tons of ammunition, instruction manuals, maps, MRE's... and candy.

Lots and lots of candy.

Make sure they're contained within their borders until they sort out their own mess.

Once they're armed, they'll Un-do their problems quickly enough.
 
2013-04-14 11:14:26 PM  
Can we just contaminate their water supply with 'bath salts'? Give it a week or so and mop up after
 
2013-04-14 11:41:39 PM  

Alebak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24R8JObNNQ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw46Ll-Zy4s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HJj85K_7MQ

for those who never saw it, shiats crazy over there, especially the stuff in the third problem


Thanks, those were pretty good. Nothing really new, but the fine-level details were interesting.
 
2013-04-14 11:49:51 PM  
Water supply? LSD.
 
2013-04-14 11:58:19 PM  

Brainsick: Can we just contaminate their water supply with 'bath salts'? Give it a week or so and mop up after


They're already dosing their peasants with meth.
 
2013-04-14 11:59:20 PM  

Kevin72: rynthetyn: Kevin72: Arthur Jumbles: Kevin72: rynthetyn: Kevin72: DeltaPunch: I'll take this horse.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x514]
Medium rare.
[x27.xanga.com image 491x555]

I'll take the dog. Medium rare.

You don't want medium rare dog, there's a trichinosis danger with undercooked dog.

Just kidding. I ate dog meat once in Vietnam to say I did it. Worst thing I ever did. Will never ever do it again. Felt sick physically plus the guilt of eating a Fido. Guide told me I was eating shoulder meat. In retrospect, shoulder meat, WTF?. I did not eat the thing that looked like chicken drumsticks. Because I knew it was doglegs. Gotta go hide my head in shame now after admitting this again.

[myrescuedogrescuedme.files.wordpress.com image 506x689]
Was it served on a plate of tender bamboo?

Just on a regular plate at a regular restaurant with regular Vietnamese eating dog at a dog restaurant like any other day. I was the only thing out of place though I'm low key and no one noticed. I'll stick to eating snake.

Meh, think dog's pretty tasty. Sounds like your guide didn't take you to a place that serves it in the traditional way--there's seven traditional Vietnamese dog dishes, none of which look like eating a chicken drumstick. I'm kind of so-so about the sausage, and hate the vertebra soup (tastes like wet dog smells), but the other traditional dog dishes are pretty decent. I particularly like roasted and thinly sliced meat, it tastes rather reminiscent of a nice roast beef.

Sounds like he took me to the blue-collar working class dog place. If it mattered, I would look to go upscale. I did it once, will not do again. I will stick to Phô Tai and mång cut.


The place I ate at was sitting on the floor eating from a mat, I wouldn't exactly call that "upscale".
 
2013-04-15 12:37:55 AM  

Rent Party: I hate repeating myself, but your cell phone, or any cell phone for that matter, will never talk to that satellite system.

Sat phones are not cell phones are not sat phones. Repeat that until you understand you don't know how cell phones work.


You hate repeasting yourself, because it makes you look stupid over and over?

This part of the discussion was about providing NK citizens with communications devices to the outside world.  It started out as cell phones, and that term lagged around in the quoting process.  big whoop.

Regardless, Sat phones ARE a device that could be used from Best Korea, and a hand held unit CAN reach a satellite.  They would theoretically work as a way to implement the speculation.

Most sat phones have an international mobile equipment identity (IMEI) assigned just as 'regular' cell phones do. They both work by handing off connections as connections to old infrastructure transceivers fade and new ones come in range.  The fact that in one case of those the transceivers are in towers and the others in satellites is just a detail.  There are even phones that work in both modes.  like the TerreStar-GENUS

You are like the idiots in the gun threads whining "they are MAGAZINES not CLIPS!!1!" as if that added any functional information to the discussion.

Get a clue.

/let me guess, you are one of those guys in the gun threads
 
2013-04-15 01:04:22 AM  

Dr.Zom: rynthetyn: The real question is why I've never seen a picture of North Korea that doesn't look to have been taken in winter?

Obama's weather machine.

My dad fought in the Korean War and he used to make fun of MASH's southern California setting as looking nothing like Korea. He said it looked more like Kansas and that shot of Un on the horse bears that out.


California looks more like Korea than it does Minnesota. As a kid I had to wonder when watching Little House on the Prairie, what part of my home state had all the tall mountains and the summers that lasted 7/8ths of the year. (Because I definitely wanted my family to move there.)

I think the most ridiculous California Doubling occurs in the original Halloween movie which features palm trees and green sunny weather in late October. (And it's supposed to take place in Illinois. I never understood that. Why not just set the story in California if the setting is so obviously California?)
 
2013-04-15 02:11:56 AM  

Kittypie070: Water supply? LSD.



Add ecstasy and it's all good.


/Maybe some catnip?
 
2013-04-15 03:59:59 AM  
Oh goody, sabre rattling in the "popular" press.  Preparing the saintly and not at all gullible citizens of the West for the next "cake walk".

Yay.

I think North Korea is a horrible place and probably would be better off as a democracy**.  But come on, how many Emmanuel Goldsteins is that in the last 10 years?

**Hard to say, who knows what brand of crazy would win a free election there right now - but probably a right wing military guy looking to start a war with someone.  Or some puppet with America or China's hand up its arse that will get overthrown in the near future, having done nothing good for the populace but a lot good for foreign business

/There's no way South Korea wants to be burdened by reunification
//That shiat will suck all the life out of their economy
 
2013-04-15 05:18:29 AM  

CheapEngineer: Naw. I think it just means it's that time of the month for you.


be careful. That would mean I may attract bears!
 
2013-04-15 08:42:40 AM  
Don't people EVER visit the west, then go back and say 'Maybe we're doing it wrong'?
 
2013-04-15 09:49:50 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: /There's no way South Korea wants to be burdened by reunification
//That shiat will suck all the life out of their economy


Hmmm...... I wonder if there are any local countries that would benefit from seeing Korea's economic might by blunted by having to help their idiot sibling get up to speed over the next 20 years?
 
2013-04-15 12:04:48 PM  

Alphax: Yeah, probably true, but the Daily Mail?  Really now.


This is actually a GODD DailyFail article, and for once there is more than 3 sentences worth of data. I'm rather impressed.
 
2013-04-15 12:08:27 PM  
This was stupid though...

Up on a hill, by yet another Kim statue, the strangest thing happens: I pick up a phone signal from the South only a few kilometres away.

Yeah dude, what do you think, we all carry cell towers on our backs and NK has some kind of neutralizing field that makes radio waves stop exactly at the border? "Wow, how strange that when I get right next to the border, and stand in exactly the right spot, I get a single bar on my cellphone. That's gotta be God at work, or something."
 
2013-04-15 12:23:35 PM  

Mikey1969: This was stupid though...

Up on a hill, by yet another Kim statue, the strangest thing happens: I pick up a phone signal from the South only a few kilometres away.

Yeah dude, what do you think, we all carry cell towers on our backs and NK has some kind of neutralizing field that makes radio waves stop exactly at the border? "Wow, how strange that when I get right next to the border, and stand in exactly the right spot, I get a single bar on my cellphone. That's gotta be God at work, or something."


"네가이 말을들을 수 있습니까? "

/google translate based  jokes don't always go through reverse as desired.  Its supposed to be "Can you hear me now?"
 
2013-04-15 01:28:46 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: Hickory-smoked: Iczer: That poor, poor, poor horse...

/they shot it afterwards right?

You know, being moderately overweight is the least of Kim's issues.

It's sad that we now think people as fat as him are "moderately overweight,"


Shakin_Haitian: Hickory-smoked: Iczer: That poor, poor, poor horse...

/they shot it afterwards right?

You know, being moderately overweight is the least of Kim's issues.

It's sad that we now think people as fat as him are "moderately overweight,"


Yeah, the kid is fat, but he's hardly horse-killing-obese. I don't know if he'd be outside the average, if he was an American rather than the leader of a nation in famine.

My only point is exaggerating his weight seems about as relevant of making fun of Stalin for having bad breath.
 
2013-04-15 01:31:39 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Mikey1969: This was stupid though...

Up on a hill, by yet another Kim statue, the strangest thing happens: I pick up a phone signal from the South only a few kilometres away.

Yeah dude, what do you think, we all carry cell towers on our backs and NK has some kind of neutralizing field that makes radio waves stop exactly at the border? "Wow, how strange that when I get right next to the border, and stand in exactly the right spot, I get a single bar on my cellphone. That's gotta be God at work, or something."

"네가이 말을들을 수 있습니까? "

/google translate based  jokes don't always go through reverse as desired.  Its supposed to be "Can you hear me now?"


LOL, that's awesome.
 
2013-04-15 02:45:48 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: namatad: /imagine your average starving NK who might have meat once a week to once a month going to a korean BBQ in seoul??!!!

According to some defector's accounts, during bad years they only get meat on Kim Il-Sung's birthday.  Once a week would be freaking GLORIOUS for them.


I was listening to the "dark secret place" podcast about Best Korea and he said that their Army rations used to included a tiny bit of meat every day (around 1990 I think?). The Army is now down to the same amount of meat but every week.

The army also keeps on lowering the minimum height requirements, they are now down to 4'10, which is the maximum height to be labelled a "Little Person" (Dwarf, Midget) in the US.

The WHO was allowed in to hand out vaccines and their data says the average NK eats a dangerously low-protein diet.
 
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