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(Toronto Star)   Sculptor creates statue depicting Jesus as a homeless person, supposed biblical scholars have a problem with this   (thestar.com) divider line 33
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2013-04-13 01:52:20 PM
7 votes:
Wasn't being a poor outcast the whole point of Jesus?
2013-04-13 06:42:20 PM
5 votes:
From the Man Himself:
Jesus told him, "Foxes have dens and birds of the sky have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay His head."
2013-04-13 07:01:15 PM
4 votes:
34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'
40"The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'
2013-04-13 12:49:51 PM
4 votes:
Jesus has been depicted in art as triumphant, gentle or suffering. Now, in a controversial new sculpture in downtown Toronto, he is shown as homeless - an outcast sleeping on a bench.

Prosperity Doctrine Jesus does not sleep on park benches.
2013-04-13 06:56:07 PM
3 votes:

super_grass: Thank Allah the artist didn't choose a 'realistic' depiction of Muhammad (PBUH), otherwise the artist would be a smoking stain on the sidewalk.


Do you bigots have to infiltrate EVERY topic? Don't you have a klan rally to be at?
2013-04-13 01:55:09 PM
3 votes:

Tigger: Wasn't being a poor outcast the whole point of Jesus?


It was when I went to Sunday school. I've long since recovered from religion, but have to wonder what the hell Bible people have been reading in the past couple of decades. Did they take out all of the stuff about loving your neighbor, blessed be the poor, and healing the sick?
2013-04-13 01:27:42 PM
3 votes:
Of course not. Christians think they're rich because Jesus was rich.

Jesus is too perfect to ever be destitute.
2013-04-13 08:20:40 PM
2 votes:
Dear God, don't know if You noticed
But Your name is on a lot of quotes in this book
Us crazy humans wrote it, You should take a look
2013-04-13 06:36:25 PM
2 votes:
Jesus didn't drive the moneylenders out of the Temple, you see; it was those dirty Occupy hippies and Jesus was really just helping the moneylenders move their things
2013-04-13 06:23:33 PM
2 votes:
i.newsarama.com
2013-04-13 04:58:58 PM
2 votes:
"It was very upsetting because the rectors liked it, but when it got to the administration, people thought it might be too controversial or vague," he says. He was told "it was not an appropriate image."

Well, it does run the risk of inadvertently teaching someone the values of humility, kindness, compassion and/or generosity.
2013-04-13 04:50:59 PM
2 votes:
yes, everybody knows he lived in a 4000 sq ft mcmansion in the houston suburbs.
2013-04-13 04:15:10 PM
2 votes:

buzzcut73: It was when I went to Sunday school. I've long since recovered from religion, but have to wonder what the hell Bible people have been reading


This is an assumption I wouldn't make.
2013-04-14 01:54:33 AM
1 votes:
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2013-04-13 10:52:47 PM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com

Man, people can't even deal with a Black Jesus and a preacher that cites Scripture to show that God just might damn America for its mistreatment of its tired, poor and hungry. You think people can handle a homeless Jesus?
2013-04-13 09:13:22 PM
1 votes:
FTA: It's the gaping wounds in the feet that reveal the subject

So this is Jesus as homeless after he was crucified? How does that make any sense?
2013-04-13 08:40:24 PM
1 votes:

MarkEC: neongoats: Liberal atheist organizations? I'm not sure that actually exists, but keep farking your chicken, out of touch pseudochristian.

How nice of you to assume I'm something I'm not. This thread is bashing Christians over their treatment of the homeless while totally ignoring that the Christian churches in this country do more for the homeless than the government and all you liberal atheists combined.


This thread isn't even about atheists, or wasn't until you tried to threadjack it in that direction like a good troll.

But like the hurping derping mouth breather you have proved yourself to be, you completely missed the point, of the sculpture, the article, and the discussion in the thread.

Congrats, you're a bad troll, a bad reader, and at this point, we're just going to go ahead and presume bad person to boot. Good day sir.

/I said good day sir.
2013-04-13 08:10:10 PM
1 votes:

MarkEC: bugontherug: Shadi: 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

Modern evangelicals interpret that to refer only to unborn babies. Anything else is liberal bias.

Who feeds the homeless? Throughout history, churches have and still do. What does government do for the homeless? There are a lot of religious organizations that help the homeless, giving them shelter and feading them. How many liberal atheist organizations are out there doing that service to the community?


Liberal atheist organizations? I'm not sure that actually exists, but keep farking your chicken, out of touch pseudochristian.
2013-04-13 07:52:37 PM
1 votes:
Christ being the son of a carpenter would have been a big deal to the original audience. Craftsmen were one step above shepherds (ie the bottom) on the social ladder in ancient Palestine.

Any Christian who would be offended by this must, literally, have never read the Bible.
2013-04-13 07:51:08 PM
1 votes:
The telepreachers and pseudo-scholars want J.C. depicted as rich because preaching prosperity instead of spirituality is better than having to work for a living, and dadgummit - they want to fleece their flocks for at least 10 percent!  Well, Jesus paid taxes too, so tax America's preachin' carpetbaggers NOW!
2013-04-13 07:40:12 PM
1 votes:
Supply side Jesus would not be caught dead being homeless.
 

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2013-04-13 07:18:44 PM
1 votes:

Sass-O-Rev: Awesome sculpture. I would love to have it.


Agreed. It *is* pretty cool.

fta: "Homeless Jesus had no home," says the artist,Timothy Schmalz, who specializes in religious sculpture. "How ironic."

[ilol'd]

Now the sculpture stands near Wellesley St. W., outside Regis College at the University of Toronto. It's a Jesuit school of theology, where priests and lay people are trained, with an emphasis on social justice.

As an atheist/recovering Catholic I gotta say the Jesuits have always impressed me as being one religious outfit that "gets" the teachings of Jesus better than many of the others.
2013-04-13 07:13:40 PM
1 votes:
Jesus may not have been poor, but he definitely had a quality far worse in the eyes of many, he always sided with the poor, sick and otherwise needy and saw them as equally moral to those who weren't poor, and never put blame upon the needy for their condition. And he didn't exactly like what many of those with money were doing or how they made money.
2013-04-13 07:13:03 PM
1 votes:
Not all embrace this interpretation, as Bryan Stallings and his wife Amy discovered. They run a mission in Branson, Mo., called Jesus Was Homeless.... They've been criticized for the mission's name.
"People who have issue with it are usually the staunch religious people," says Stallings, "especially those who follow prosperity teaching and doctrine that says if you are homeless or poor you don't have enough faith."



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Shadi: 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'


This is one of those times it's a pity I can only click the 'smart' button one time.
2013-04-13 06:54:33 PM
1 votes:
Jesus was homeless.

Matthew 8:19-20
19
And a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.
20And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.
2013-04-13 06:54:16 PM
1 votes:

Galileo's Daughter: RaoulDeWondernewt: From the Man Himself:
Jesus told him, "Foxes have dens and birds of the sky have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay His head."

Came for this, leaving satisfied.


Ditto. Scripture pwned.
2013-04-13 06:52:55 PM
1 votes:

I May Be Crazy But...: FunkOut: LDM90: If he was depicted as a 30 year old man who still lived with his mom, would Farkers embrace him as a brother?

Only his beard was primarily located on his neck and he turned water into Mountain Dew.

Did he die to save us from bad DMs?


he took one game, cracked the DRM and transferred it to millions.
2013-04-13 06:47:45 PM
1 votes:

LDM90: If he was depicted as a 30 year old man who still lived with his mom, would Farkers embrace him as a brother?


Sounds pretty Jewish to me.

Or Italian.
2013-04-13 06:45:42 PM
1 votes:

LDM90: If he was depicted as a 30 year old man who still lived with his mom, would Farkers embrace him as a brother?


Only his beard was primarily located on his neck and he turned water into Mountain Dew.
2013-04-13 06:42:49 PM
1 votes:
If he was depicted as a 30 year old man who still lived with his mom, would Farkers embrace him as a brother?
2013-04-13 06:39:19 PM
1 votes:
FEAR ART.
2013-04-13 06:26:30 PM
1 votes:
Schmalz, 43, roots the sculpture in his experiences in Toronto, where he trained at the former Ontario College of Art. "I was totally used to stepping over people. You're not aware they are human beings. They become obstacles in the urban environment and you lose a spiritual connection to them. They become inert, an inconvenience."


Just because you callously stepped over the homeless doesn't mean the rest of us did.  Your sculpture's statement is not "look everyone, there are homeless people," it's "oh wow, I just now noticed there are homeless people around."
2013-04-13 06:23:55 PM
1 votes:
" And now, ladies and gentlemen, the sound of many panties being wadded"
 
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