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2013-04-13 07:20:02 PM

Shadi: bugontherug: The linked site is not satire.

no way...

http://www.conservapedia.com/Age_of_the_earth
http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexuality

http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia_proven_right


The page for "liberal" had a picture of Hitler at the top for years. Someone decided that cost them credibility. So they replaced it with a picture of John Wayne Gacy--and moved the Hitler picture to the bottom.

I was saddened to see they got rid of the Gacy & Hitler pictures--until I realized they had replaced them with a picture of history's greatest monster.
 
2013-04-13 07:20:40 PM

FunkOut: detritus: sheep snorter: Homeless ben franklin laughs at your distaste of the homeless jesus.

[i.imgur.com image 601x383]

I thought ben franklin was white. But seems he is some type of copper color. Well back to study up in the whitewash history book I guess.

There's a bible belt, predominately white and very ethnocentric city in Michigan that has this same statue.  I thought they were trying to make him look gangsta but now I understand it -- the Declaration of Independence doesn't belong to non-white statues.  Now it look likes he's dropping rhymes.

[i.imgur.com image 522x390]

And the glasses, the coat, the vest, the cane, the shoes? Totally pimpin'. His hair is all rock star.


Those aren't bifocals dawg, those are shades!  fark, now I wish I brought along a gold chain and hat.
 
2013-04-13 07:22:08 PM

Shadi: 34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'
40"The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'


Came for this, leaving satisfied.
 
2013-04-13 07:25:36 PM
I like that sculpture - glad to see it found a home. Totally appropriate. Perhaps I should drop by St Regis and take a look for myself.

/Who said religious expression has to be literal?
 
2013-04-13 07:39:38 PM

bugontherug: Shadi: bugontherug: The linked site is not satire.

no way...

http://www.conservapedia.com/Age_of_the_earth
http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexuality

http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia_proven_right

The page for "liberal" had a picture of Hitler at the top for years. Someone decided that cost them credibility. So they replaced it with a picture of John Wayne Gacy--and moved the Hitler picture to the bottom.

I was saddened to see they got rid of the Gacy & Hitler pictures--until I realized they had replaced them with a picture of history's greatest monster.


Dayum, that place is like the Fort Knox of derp.

Loved the last line in the piece.

In practical usage, the term "liberal" is more closely synonymous with "radical," "immoral," "anti-freedom," or "bad."

Liberal = Bad.

Wow, how do you argue with logic like that?

/Oh right, you don't.
//Cos it isn't.
///Never mind.
 
2013-04-13 07:40:12 PM
Supply side Jesus would not be caught dead being homeless.
 

oi49.tinypic.com
 
2013-04-13 07:45:01 PM
I like to think of Jesus like a dirty old bum. He's comin' up to me, and I'm 'bout to sock him one, cause, you know, he's a dirty old bum, but then I say, "Wait a minute, there's something... I don't know, special about this guy.
 
2013-04-13 07:51:08 PM
The telepreachers and pseudo-scholars want J.C. depicted as rich because preaching prosperity instead of spirituality is better than having to work for a living, and dadgummit - they want to fleece their flocks for at least 10 percent!  Well, Jesus paid taxes too, so tax America's preachin' carpetbaggers NOW!
 
2013-04-13 07:52:37 PM
Christ being the son of a carpenter would have been a big deal to the original audience. Craftsmen were one step above shepherds (ie the bottom) on the social ladder in ancient Palestine.

Any Christian who would be offended by this must, literally, have never read the Bible.
 
2013-04-13 07:53:55 PM

gunga galunga: I like to think of Jesus like a dirty old bum. He's comin' up to me, and I'm 'bout to sock him one, cause, you know, he's a dirty old bum,


Are you speaking in character, or do you literally punch homeless people in the face?
 
2013-04-13 07:56:09 PM

cptjeff: super_grass: Thank Allah the artist didn't choose a 'realistic' depiction of Muhammad (PBUH), otherwise the artist would be a smoking stain on the sidewalk.

Do you bigots have to infiltrate EVERY topic? Don't you have a klan rally to be at

in 26 minutes?

you see... if you had just added the bolded part, you could have covered two memes in one... ;)
 
2013-04-13 07:57:28 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Looks like a weary Dementor to me.


well, they did have alot of work lately... they deserve a break today...
 
2013-04-13 07:57:43 PM
You mean an artist depicted Jesus, who(well according to ppl that think he was a real person) walked and lived and loved among the poorest of the poor, the outcasts, the unwanted.

Funny, I find this particular piece of art to be extremely authentic.

Not surprised that people who identify themselves as christians hate it though. The Rich, White, and Lexus SUV driving.
 
2013-04-13 08:02:05 PM

bugontherug: Shadi: 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

Modern evangelicals interpret that to refer only to unborn babies. Anything else is liberal bias.


Who feeds the homeless? Throughout history, churches have and still do. What does government do for the homeless? There are a lot of religious organizations that help the homeless, giving them shelter and feading them. How many liberal atheist organizations are out there doing that service to the community?
 
2013-04-13 08:10:10 PM

MarkEC: bugontherug: Shadi: 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

Modern evangelicals interpret that to refer only to unborn babies. Anything else is liberal bias.

Who feeds the homeless? Throughout history, churches have and still do. What does government do for the homeless? There are a lot of religious organizations that help the homeless, giving them shelter and feading them. How many liberal atheist organizations are out there doing that service to the community?


Liberal atheist organizations? I'm not sure that actually exists, but keep farking your chicken, out of touch pseudochristian.
 
2013-04-13 08:15:50 PM
These are probably the same kind of people that get pissy when you tell them Jesus wasn't a Christian he was born and died a Jew.
 
2013-04-13 08:18:14 PM
The real Jesus isn't welcomed in most church today, sadly.

But the Caucasian, Republican, gay-bashing, anti-Obama Jesus is most welcomed. Be sure to pay your 10% to your church!
 
2013-04-13 08:18:57 PM
Meh.

Needs more nails.
 
2013-04-13 08:20:40 PM
Dear God, don't know if You noticed
But Your name is on a lot of quotes in this book
Us crazy humans wrote it, You should take a look
 
2013-04-13 08:21:43 PM

bugontherug: The linked site is not satire.


And that makes me very sad.
 
2013-04-13 08:23:44 PM
I actually am a biblical scholar, and all I can say is, goddammitsomuch.  It's Dostoyevski's Grand Inquisitor scene in the 21st century.  Fark these religious "administrators." Fark them.
 
2013-04-13 08:26:17 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: FunkOut: LDM90: If he was depicted as a 30 year old man who still lived with his mom, would Farkers embrace him as a brother?

Only his beard was primarily located on his neck and he turned water into Mountain Dew.

Did he die to save us from bad DMs?


Jesus saves.

...and takes half damage

That never gets old. God, this Catholic gamer is going to hell.
 
2013-04-13 08:26:27 PM
How people get their asshole hypocritical ways out of the teachings of Christ is the true miracle.

Whether you believe or not, the dude had some good ideas and is one of few religious figures who didn't have a blatant ulterior motive.
 
2013-04-13 08:27:28 PM

MarkEC: bugontherug: Shadi: 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

Modern evangelicals interpret that to refer only to unborn babies. Anything else is liberal bias.

Who feeds the homeless? Throughout history, churches have and still do. What does government do for the homeless? There are a lot of religious organizations that help the homeless, giving them shelter and feading them. How many liberal atheist organizations are out there doing that service to the community?


You sound derpy....
 
2013-04-13 08:30:08 PM

Scaevola: I actually am a biblical scholar, and all I can say is, goddammitsomuch.  It's Dostoyevski's Grand Inquisitor scene in the 21st century.  Fark these religious "administrators." Fark them.


Biblical schuller...is that like a Harry Potter fanatic minus 2000 years and les blood?
 
2013-04-13 08:33:41 PM

thenooch: Scaevola: I actually am a biblical scholar, and all I can say is, goddammitsomuch.  It's Dostoyevski's Grand Inquisitor scene in the 21st century.  Fark these religious "administrators." Fark them.

Biblical schuller...is that like a Harry Potter fanatic minus 2000 years and les blood?


No, it's like being a classicist, except for ancient Israelite texts instead of Greco-Roman ones.  You learn a dozen or so languages, study archaeology, philosophy, anthropology, literary study.  But what you don't learn to do too well is explain yourself to some random buttmunch on Fark.
 
2013-04-13 08:35:17 PM

neongoats: Liberal atheist organizations? I'm not sure that actually exists, but keep farking your chicken, out of touch pseudochristian.


How nice of you to assume I'm something I'm not. This thread is bashing Christians over their treatment of the homeless while totally ignoring that the Christian churches in this country do more for the homeless than the government and all you liberal atheists combined.
 
2013-04-13 08:35:18 PM

Sass-O-Rev: Awesome sculpture. I would love to have it.


Somebody's going to have it real soon.
 
2013-04-13 08:40:24 PM

MarkEC: neongoats: Liberal atheist organizations? I'm not sure that actually exists, but keep farking your chicken, out of touch pseudochristian.

How nice of you to assume I'm something I'm not. This thread is bashing Christians over their treatment of the homeless while totally ignoring that the Christian churches in this country do more for the homeless than the government and all you liberal atheists combined.


This thread isn't even about atheists, or wasn't until you tried to threadjack it in that direction like a good troll.

But like the hurping derping mouth breather you have proved yourself to be, you completely missed the point, of the sculpture, the article, and the discussion in the thread.

Congrats, you're a bad troll, a bad reader, and at this point, we're just going to go ahead and presume bad person to boot. Good day sir.

/I said good day sir.
 
2013-04-13 08:48:36 PM

RaoulDeWondernewt: From the Man Himself:
Jesus told him, "Foxes have dens and birds of the sky have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay His head."


Came for this, leaving enlightened.
 
2013-04-13 08:50:48 PM
It is hard to believe that the prosperity doctrine thing was able to gain ANY traction at all. It is so wildly at odds with the actual bible or anything attributed to early christian teachings. How on earth were people able to persuade themselves to believe it?
 
2013-04-13 08:54:25 PM

gaspode: It is hard to believe that the prosperity doctrine thing was able to gain ANY traction at all. It is so wildly at odds with the actual bible or anything attributed to early christian teachings. How on earth were people able to persuade themselves to believe it?


Most Christians haven't actually read the bible as people who do have a tendency to not be Christian afterward.
 
2013-04-13 08:56:19 PM

gaspode: It is hard to believe that the prosperity doctrine thing was able to gain ANY traction at all. It is so wildly at odds with the actual bible or anything attributed to early christian teachings. How on earth were people able to persuade themselves to believe it?


Perhaps this song explains it a bit Cult of Personality
 
2013-04-13 08:58:51 PM

neongoats: MarkEC: neongoats: Liberal atheist organizations? I'm not sure that actually exists, but keep farking your chicken, out of touch pseudochristian.

How nice of you to assume I'm something I'm not. This thread is bashing Christians over their treatment of the homeless while totally ignoring that the Christian churches in this country do more for the homeless than the government and all you liberal atheists combined.

This thread isn't even about atheists, or wasn't until you tried to threadjack it in that direction like a good troll.

But like the hurping derping mouth breather you have proved yourself to be, you completely missed the point, of the sculpture, the article, and the discussion in the thread.

Congrats, you're a bad troll, a bad reader, and at this point, we're just going to go ahead and presume bad person to boot. Good day sir.

/I said good day sir.


My responses were to comments that had nothing to do with the sculpture, so I'm the one threadjacking? There's all kinds of Christian-bashing going on in this thread. I'm not a Christian, but I'll defend their record in helping the homeless.

Since you said "we're just going to..." I take that as you are the self elected representative of everyone else in this thread. How smug of you.
 
2013-04-13 09:13:22 PM
FTA: It's the gaping wounds in the feet that reveal the subject

So this is Jesus as homeless after he was crucified? How does that make any sense?
 
2013-04-13 09:27:23 PM

FunkOut: detritus: sheep snorter: Homeless ben franklin laughs at your distaste of the homeless jesus.

[i.imgur.com image 601x383]

I thought ben franklin was white. But seems he is some type of copper color. Well back to study up in the whitewash history book I guess.

There's a bible belt, predominately white and very ethnocentric city in Michigan that has this same statue.  I thought they were trying to make him look gangsta but now I understand it -- the Declaration of Independence doesn't belong to non-white statues.  Now it look likes he's dropping rhymes.

[i.imgur.com image 522x390]

And the glasses, the coat, the vest, the cane, the shoes? Totally pimpin'. His hair is all rock star.


Why is there a chicken on the bench, though?
 
2013-04-13 09:32:52 PM
You mean the depictions of Jesus as a white, muscular six foot tall blue-eyed blonde aren't accurate?
 
2013-04-13 09:36:12 PM

Gyrfalcon: FunkOut: detritus: sheep snorter: Homeless ben franklin laughs at your distaste of the homeless jesus.

[i.imgur.com image 601x383]

I thought ben franklin was white. But seems he is some type of copper color. Well back to study up in the whitewash history book I guess.

There's a bible belt, predominately white and very ethnocentric city in Michigan that has this same statue.  I thought they were trying to make him look gangsta but now I understand it -- the Declaration of Independence doesn't belong to non-white statues.  Now it look likes he's dropping rhymes.

[i.imgur.com image 522x390]

And the glasses, the coat, the vest, the cane, the shoes? Totally pimpin'. His hair is all rock star.

Why is there a chicken on the bench, though?


It's 2 bronze pigeons about to fark, not a chicken.
 
2013-04-13 09:37:18 PM
It was either Vonnegut or Hunter S Thompson who wrote a bit about "God reached down and pointed to this vargrant bum nailed to a cross and said 'I've adopted this man as my one and only son and will treat you as well as you treated him and those like him.'"

i.chzbgr.com

#whatarealgodmightsay
 
2013-04-13 09:37:20 PM

Gyrfalcon: Why is there a chicken on the bench, though?


Thats 2 birds, one wings folded, one outstretched . 3 sets of talons visible...
Anyhow- 2 birds in the hand, if you know what i mean...
 
2013-04-13 09:38:10 PM

Scaevola: thenooch: Scaevola: I actually am a biblical scholar, and all I can say is, goddammitsomuch.  It's Dostoyevski's Grand Inquisitor scene in the 21st century.  Fark these religious "administrators." Fark them.

Biblical schuller...is that like a Harry Potter fanatic minus 2000 years and les blood?

No, it's like being a classicist, except for ancient Israelite texts instead of Greco-Roman ones.  You learn a dozen or so languages, study archaeology, philosophy, anthropology, literary study.  But what you don't learn to do too well is explain yourself to some random buttmunch on Fark.


As another random buttmunch, thank you for doing important work. Understanding where our culture came from is an important part of understanding who we are. Also it's really interesting.
 
2013-04-13 09:47:43 PM

Shadi: bugontherug: The linked site is not satire.

no way...

http://www.conservapedia.com/Age_of_the_earth
http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexuality

http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia_proven_right


This is the best one, I think.

The theory of relativity is a mathematical system that allows no exceptions. It is heavily promoted by liberals who like its encouragement of relativism and its tendency to mislead people in how they view the world.[1] Here is a list of 24 counterexamples: any one of them shows that the theory is incorrect.
 
2013-04-13 09:59:39 PM
Well, once He started His ministry, He was homeless. There just weren't any park benches in Judea.

/just sayin'
//Catholic
///lighten up, Francis
 
2013-04-13 10:07:44 PM

MarkEC: My responses were to comments that had nothing to do with the sculpture, so I'm the one threadjacking? There's all kinds of Christian-bashing going on in this thread. I'm not a Christian, but I'll defend their record in helping the homeless.


Actually, you set up a strawman about liberal athiests and started knocking it around because government never helps anyone on food stamps and welfare and lookit all those churches out there and help they're being oppressed. Then there was some butthurt about being called out on your nonsense, but by that time I was bored with the dog and pony show. Basically I'd like to know who's hiring the trolls in this chickenshiat outfit because you're just not up to snuff. So, you've been properly farkied and now you can just scoot out of the thread okay please thank-you goodbye now.
 
2013-04-13 10:29:59 PM

netgamer7k: The real Jesus isn't welcomed in most church today, sadly.

But the Caucasian, Republican, gay-bashing, anti-Obama Jesus is most welcomed. Be sure to pay your 10% to your church!


You're right!  The "real" God loves the homos, right? Just ask Sodom...
 
2013-04-13 10:42:15 PM

Shadi: 34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'
40"The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'


I see people try to defend themselves from this but there are clearly no ands ifs or buts in what Jesus said.
 
2013-04-13 10:44:07 PM

theorellior: MarkEC: My responses were to comments that had nothing to do with the sculpture, so I'm the one threadjacking? There's all kinds of Christian-bashing going on in this thread. I'm not a Christian, but I'll defend their record in helping the homeless.

Actually, you set up a strawman about liberal athiests and started knocking it around because government never helps anyone on food stamps and welfare and lookit all those churches out there and help they're being oppressed. Then there was some butthurt about being called out on your nonsense, but by that time I was bored with the dog and pony show. Basically I'd like to know who's hiring the trolls in this chickenshiat outfit because you're just not up to snuff. So, you've been properly farkied and now you can just scoot out of the thread okay please thank-you goodbye now.


What world do you live in where homeless people get food stamps and welfare? I point out that the churches are the ones who do the most to help the homeless in response to a comment inferring the opposite and it's a straw-man to you. Whatever. God luck with that problem of seeing hired trolls behind every rock, you know a tinfoil hat may help ease that paranoia.
 
2013-04-13 10:45:22 PM

detritus: sheep snorter: Homeless ben franklin laughs at your distaste of the homeless jesus.

[i.imgur.com image 601x383]

I thought ben franklin was white. But seems he is some type of copper color. Well back to study up in the whitewash history book I guess.

There's a bible belt, predominately white and very ethnocentric city in Michigan that has this same statue.  I thought they were trying to make him look gangsta but now I understand it -- the Declaration of Independence doesn't belong to non-white statues.  Now it look likes he's dropping rhymes.

[i.imgur.com image 522x390]


It is not exactly the same statue. Just sayin'.
 
2013-04-13 10:47:31 PM
FTFA: "People who have issue with it are usually the staunch religious people," says Stallings, "especially those who follow prosperity teaching and doctrine that says if you are homeless or poor you don't have enough faith."

Submitter, those people are NEVER Biblical Scholars. All of the actual scholars discussed in the TFA are solidly behind it.
 
2013-04-13 10:51:26 PM

quatchi: bugontherug: Shadi: bugontherug: The linked site is not satire.

no way...

http://www.conservapedia.com/Age_of_the_earth
http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexuality

http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia_proven_right

The page for "liberal" had a picture of Hitler at the top for years. Someone decided that cost them credibility. So they replaced it with a picture of John Wayne Gacy--and moved the Hitler picture to the bottom.

I was saddened to see they got rid of the Gacy & Hitler pictures--until I realized they had replaced them with a picture of history's greatest monster.

Dayum, that place is like the Fort Knox of derp.

Loved the last line in the piece.

In practical usage, the term "liberal" is more closely synonymous with "radical," "immoral," "anti-freedom," or "bad."

Liberal = Bad.

Wow, how do you argue with logic like that?

/Oh right, you don't.
//Cos it isn't.
///Never mind.


Ok, this part killed me from their proven right page:

Conservapedia observed that the L.A. Lakers had packed their starting line-up with Overrated Sports Stars, and then hired their preferred coach despite how a better one was available.[55]

Liberals thought these players and the hiring of the new coach were good because the media told them so.

The L.A. Lakers run their record to 15-20, after losing 5 in a row, and in a massive embarrassment are unlikely even to make the playoffs.
 
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