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2013-04-13 01:03:40 PM
Um, is there any actual combustion involved in a hookah? There isn't, right? You can just heat the water with electricity?

So why is anyone having a problem with this? It's considerably less toxic than normal cigarettes.

Wait, I get it. It's Islamophobia, isn't it?
 
2013-04-13 02:31:05 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Um, is there any actual combustion involved in a hookah? There isn't, right? You can just heat the water with electricity?

So why is anyone having a problem with this? It's considerably less toxic than normal cigarettes.

Wait, I get it. It's Islamophobia, isn't it?


Not much of a smoker, are you?
 
2013-04-13 03:05:09 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Um, is there any actual combustion involved in a hookah? There isn't, right? You can just heat the water with electricity?

So why is anyone having a problem with this? It's considerably less toxic than normal cigarettes.

Wait, I get it. It's Islamophobia, isn't it?


9/10

Good job, sir
 
2013-04-13 03:10:08 PM
Raise taxes on hookahs. I'll still smoke when I'm feeling peckish (about once every 4-6 months). It doesn't have all the crazy crap of a cigarette, but you're still inhaling burning plant matter into your lungs.
 
2013-04-13 03:28:55 PM
There's a really awesome sandwich place next to a hookah bar in my neighborhood. The smell is so nasty from the stupid hookah bar, I don't eat at the sandwich place.
 
2013-04-13 03:41:31 PM
Whatever subby. I should be able to visit a hookah bar anytime I want without having to inhale your second hand poison. What gives you or the owner to allow hookah smoke in an establishment that I might choose to enter of my own free will?

Sure I could choose not to go in, but then that wouldnt be fair because I wouldn't be inside!!!
 
2013-04-13 03:56:06 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Um, is there any actual combustion involved in a hookah? There isn't, right? You can just heat the water with electricity?

So why is anyone having a problem with this? It's considerably less toxic than normal cigarettes.

Wait, I get it. It's Islamophobia, isn't it?


Whatever you do, please don't touch anybody's hookah.
 
2013-04-13 04:03:59 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Um, is there any actual combustion involved in a hookah? There isn't, right? You can just heat the water with electricity?

So why is anyone having a problem with this? It's considerably less toxic than normal cigarettes.


A lot of people think that (even me initially), but a lot of people are wrong. In many ways it's actually worse since you're still breathing in lots smoke, it just doesn't smell disgusting like cigarette smoke:
"Due to the mode of smoking-including frequency of puffing, depth of inhalation, and length of the smoking session-hookah smokers may absorb higher concentrations of the toxins found in cigarette smoke."
 
2013-04-13 04:10:47 PM

m3000: "Due to the mode of smoking-including frequency of puffing, depth of inhalation, and length of the smoking session-hookah smokers may absorb higher concentrations of the toxins found in cigarette smoke."


Yeah, but not if you "heat the water with electricity", right?
 
2013-04-13 04:29:27 PM
Most of the strip clubs in Denver qualified for smoking ban exemptions just by raising the prices of their cigars.  A little creative accounting helped too, I'm sure.

I don't readily understand why a city that bans smoking would grant a business license to a new hookah bar.  Something something freedom, I guess.
 
2013-04-13 04:40:03 PM
I am allergic to cat dander, so I want Chicago to be a no cat zone!!!
I hate the smell of sweat, so I demand every gym  in my area be closed down!
I'm allergic to fish so, every Red Lobster or LJS must have special ways of cooking other proteins just to accommodate ME!!!
 
2013-04-13 04:59:45 PM
Wow... funny how we are suddenly outraged about clamping down on tobacco use that some hipsters enjoy.   That's ok... Just run a demonization education/truth campaign against hooka users and eventually they will be able to get away with this.  You know, just like they did with cigarets...
 
2013-04-13 04:59:50 PM
www.siliconvalleywatcher.com childreach.on.ca
 
2013-04-13 05:01:32 PM
Not so happy now.
 
2013-04-13 05:02:10 PM
I thought this whole Hookah Bar thing was just a wink-and-a-nod way for white college types to go someplace to smoke weed.
 
2013-04-13 05:02:21 PM
Axe body spray(or, smellable white trash identifier) makes me airway clamp shut harder than Bea Arthur's cunny. Can we get a ban of that shiat first.
 
2013-04-13 05:02:27 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: I am allergic to cat dander, so I want Chicago to be a no cat zone!!!
I hate the smell of sweat, so I demand every gym  in my area be closed down!
I'm allergic to fish so, every Red Lobster or LJS must have special ways of cooking other proteins just to accommodate ME!!!


Bloomberg?
 
2013-04-13 05:02:47 PM

m3000: omnibus_necanda_sunt: Um, is there any actual combustion involved in a hookah? There isn't, right? You can just heat the water with electricity?

So why is anyone having a problem with this? It's considerably less toxic than normal cigarettes.

A lot of people think that (even me initially), but a lot of people are wrong. In many ways it's actually worse since you're still breathing in lots smoke, it just doesn't smell disgusting like cigarette smoke:
"Due to the mode of smoking-including frequency of puffing, depth of inhalation, and length of the smoking session-hookah smokers may absorb higher concentrations of the toxins found in cigarette smoke."


With the amount of hookah most people in the US smoke (hookah smokers in the US I mean), hookahs are a lot less dangerous than cigarettes.  It's hard to compare one session with cigarettes, because they can last a while, and can be refilled with new material in the same session.  In general, hookah smoke is away worse for you in terms of amount of bad stuff you inhale compared with *A* cigarette.  However, compared to the smoking lifestyle, hookah is much better.  Also, hookah smoke comes out way cooler than cigarette smoke, and cooler smoke is associated with less lung damage than hotter smoke.  Don't have a citation for it, just something I read once upon a time.
 
2013-04-13 05:03:34 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: There's a really awesome sandwich place next to a hookah bar in my neighborhood. The smell is so nasty from the stupid hookah bar, I don't eat at the sandwich place.


Sounds like you have a problem. You should probably eat somewhere else.
 
2013-04-13 05:04:57 PM

Great_Milenko: I thought this whole Hookah Bar thing was just a wink-and-a-nod way for white college types to go someplace to smoke weed.


It's 2013, college kids don't have to make up stupid bullshiat excuses to smoke a joint. They just do it, everywhere and anywhere, from their front porches to walking down the street. Even in states and cities where it's still technically illegal.

just sayin
 
2013-04-13 05:07:49 PM
So now we're against tobacco smoking indoors?

What about muh second hand smoke, muh cancer, and muh enjoying the atmosphere without being forced to smell smoke?
 
2013-04-13 05:08:45 PM
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2013-04-13 05:09:32 PM
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Is not amused by these shenanigans.

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2013-04-13 05:09:41 PM

Great_Milenko: I thought this whole Hookah Bar thing was just a wink-and-a-nod way for white college types to go someplace to smoke weed.


Not at all. More a place hipsters go to when the bar is too passe for them. I'm not a big fan, but the anti-smoking crowd is farking retarded in their pursuit to shut these down. It's private property...if they don't like it they are free to not take part.
 
2013-04-13 05:10:10 PM
That lady in the video from Smoke Free DC looks like she literally has nothing else to do with her time but bother other people.
 
2013-04-13 05:11:50 PM
I have a raging hatred for anti-smoking dick heads. You can't even smoke outside bars and restaurants in San Jose now, so now I either stay home or drink in Campbell.
 
2013-04-13 05:12:30 PM
The White House Plumbers are aghast.
 
2013-04-13 05:12:55 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: I am allergic to cat dander, so I want Chicago to be a no cat zone!!!
I hate the smell of sweat, so I demand every gym  in my area be closed down!
I'm allergic to fish so, every Red Lobster or LJS must have special ways of cooking other proteins just to accommodate ME!!!


You forgot the National Radio Quiet Zone where the electromagnetic-hypersensitive go.
 
2013-04-13 05:13:08 PM
The city regulates zoning laws and businesses.   No smoking in places of business, want to do it at home go right ahead, unless you have kids because that would you an asshole.
 
2013-04-13 05:13:29 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Not at all. More a place hipsters go to when the bar is too passe for them.


I thought it was a bar for people under 21, at least that was the last time anyone I knew wanted to go to a hookah place.
 
2013-04-13 05:14:11 PM

Thisbymaster: The city regulates zoning laws and businesses.   No smoking in places of business, want to do it at home go right ahead, unless you have kids because that would you an asshole.


So we should just do whatever anti smoking douches say?
 
2013-04-13 05:15:00 PM

TheJoe03: Thisbymaster: The city regulates zoning laws and businesses.   No smoking in places of business, want to do it at home go right ahead, unless you have kids because that would you an asshole.

So we should just do whatever anti smoking douches say?


If you ate a liberal yes
 
2013-04-13 05:15:09 PM
Can't even get shisha tobacco by mail order anymore, and my local smoke shops only carry the shiatty stuff :(
 
2013-04-13 05:15:12 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Um, is there any actual combustion involved in a hookah? There isn't, right? You can just heat the water with electricity?

So why is anyone having a problem with this? It's considerably less toxic than normal cigarettes.

Wait, I get it. It's Islamophobia, isn't it?


False. The act of hookah smoking is even more dangerous than cigarette smoking because of the length of smoking sessions and the way in which shisha is prepared.
 
2013-04-13 05:16:58 PM

DeathCipris: omnibus_necanda_sunt: Um, is there any actual combustion involved in a hookah? There isn't, right? You can just heat the water with electricity?

So why is anyone having a problem with this? It's considerably less toxic than normal cigarettes.

Wait, I get it. It's Islamophobia, isn't it?

False. The act of hookah smoking is even more dangerous than cigarette smoking because of the length of smoking sessions and the way in which shisha is prepared.


I would also like to mention that I don't care what others do...it is a HOOKAH BAR. FFS, if I go there, I expect smoke. These anti-smoking tards need to chill the fark out.
 
2013-04-13 05:17:05 PM

Nemo's Brother: TheJoe03: Thisbymaster: The city regulates zoning laws and businesses.   No smoking in places of business, want to do it at home go right ahead, unless you have kids because that would you an asshole.

So we should just do whatever anti smoking douches say?

If you ate a liberal yes


Liberals contain heavy levels of toxic substances, consumption may lead to diminished mental capacity.
 
2013-04-13 05:17:19 PM
if you arent a smoker, wtf are you doing in a hooka bar and why do you care?

Puritanicalism: The sneaking suspicion that someone, somewhere, is having fun.
 
2013-04-13 05:18:03 PM
The only person I ever knew who owned a hookah was a douchebag who loved Dane Cook and he always made a tremendous deal out of breaking the thing out and making everyone use it.
 
2013-04-13 05:18:06 PM

Nemo's Brother: TheJoe03: Thisbymaster: The city regulates zoning laws and businesses.   No smoking in places of business, want to do it at home go right ahead, unless you have kids because that would you an asshole.

So we should just do whatever anti smoking douches say?

If you ate a liberal yes


Modern day progressives are killing the liberal movement, or at least making my liberal ass resent it.
 
2013-04-13 05:18:27 PM

rocinante721: [www.siliconvalleywatcher.com image 300x300] [childreach.on.ca image 400x300]


Chicken flavored lollipops would be disgusting.
 
2013-04-13 05:18:49 PM
Isn't that a prostitute in Boston?

/wicked
 
2013-04-13 05:20:34 PM

Steak_Cake_Sause: if you arent a smoker, wtf are you doing in a hooka bar and why do you care?

Puritanicalism: The sneaking suspicion that someone, somewhere, is having fun.


This is what I was wondering.
 
2013-04-13 05:20:57 PM
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Ga ask Alice...
 
2013-04-13 05:21:09 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Um, is there any actual combustion involved in a hookah? There isn't, right? You can just heat the water with electricity?

So why is anyone having a problem with this? It's considerably less toxic than normal cigarettes.

Wait, I get it. It's Islamophobia, isn't it?


Um, I think you are confusing this:

www.hookahshisha.org

With this:

p.globalsources.com

Most likely, as I've heard the larger E-Cigarettes referred to as "Portable Hookahs" one too many times.
 
2013-04-13 05:21:44 PM

DeathCipris: False. The act of hookah smoking is even more dangerous than cigarette smoking because of the length of smoking sessions and the way in which shisha is prepared.


Then I suppose non-smokers and anti-smokers should stay away from hookah bars?

Oh wait, no, they should file lawsuits and call the police because somebody is doing something they don't like.
 
2013-04-13 05:23:09 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: The only person I ever knew who owned a hookah was a douchebag who loved Dane Cook and he always made a tremendous deal out of breaking the thing out and making everyone use it.


i.qkme.me
 
2013-04-13 05:24:58 PM

ReverendJasen: DeathCipris: False. The act of hookah smoking is even more dangerous than cigarette smoking because of the length of smoking sessions and the way in which shisha is prepared.

Then I suppose non-smokers and anti-smokers should stay away from hookah bars?

Oh wait, no, they should file lawsuits and call the police because somebody is doing something they don't like.


www.wheresyobreadat.com

Basically sums it up.
 
2013-04-13 05:30:44 PM
When my wife and I were first dating, we'd occasionally go to a hookah place.  We were often the only white people there, I'm not sure if that makes us more or less hipsterish.  This was in the DC area, and there is a very large Muslim population here.
 
2013-04-13 05:32:00 PM
I'm willing to make a compromise here.  I'll stay the hell out of hooka bars.  But then smokers need to stay the hell away from the building entrances that people have to walk through to get to and from work.  And if you come within 5 feet of a no smoking sign with a lit cigarette, I get to put it out,... with a fire extinguisher.  Second offense it's Halon.

Seriously I don't care if you smoke (ok,  I do, I've watched two die from lung cancer and I don't want watch any more.  But I'm not going to invade your places set aside to do so.) but I really don't want to be force walk through a cloud to get to work.  And for  FSM's sake police the damn butts up.  They are disgusting.  The combined effect is like walking through a large ashtray.

//and for the "it only cuts off the sucky years" crowd, trust me if you die from lung cancers you will still be experiencing the sucky years at the end.
 
2013-04-13 05:32:05 PM
So, it's a place that only offers hooka smoking, they are clear about it.  But the anti-smoking group is still wanting to shut them down because they are in the tobacco business.  This to me just seems farking retarded.
 
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