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(Washington Post)   If you've committed war crimes working for the US government, you're going to have to cancel your Russian vacation   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 38
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2013-04-13 08:26:59 AM
The Russian list is incomplete without George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
 
2013-04-13 09:52:20 AM

MmmmBacon: The Russian list is incomplete without George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.


Yeah, and they have the temerity to claim that their list isn't arbitrary. The fools.
 
2013-04-13 12:51:44 PM
No, see, if your misdeeds involve petrochemicals, you're obviously Putin's kindred spirits.
 
2013-04-13 12:56:21 PM

MmmmBacon: The Russian list is incomplete without George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.


Thread over and done in one.

press.take88.com
 
2013-04-13 02:58:46 PM
Well that's rich.
 
2013-04-13 03:19:50 PM
Sooooo everyone since Eisenhower...
 
2013-04-13 03:25:51 PM
Spasiba, Comrade Obama!
 
2013-04-13 03:33:51 PM
AIN'T WAR CRIMES IF WE DO IT

(Does taking out JFK in broad daylight also count?)
 
2013-04-13 03:34:41 PM
If we could get all countries to ban each-others alleged war criminals until they face up their charges the world could become a better place.
 
2013-04-13 03:35:05 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Sooooo everyone since Eisenhower...


Yes, we must definitely ignore the credible charges of torture, murder and unprovoked war for former members of the Bush administration because other folks may have done similar things in the past.
 
2013-04-13 03:41:30 PM
blackwatertown.files.wordpress.com
DO IT BORIS
 
2013-04-13 03:41:37 PM
Personally, I wouldn't care if they shackled both Addington and Yoo to the inside of a Don's John at a chili eating festival, much less ban them from Russia.
 
2013-04-13 03:41:48 PM

El Pachuco: Yes, we must definitely ignore the credible charges of torture, murder and unprovoked war for former members of the Bush administration because other folks may have done similar things in the past.


I meant it would be a realllllyyyy long list of people in the American Government.
 
2013-04-13 03:45:26 PM

JasonOfOrillia: If we could get all countries to ban each-others alleged war criminals until they face up their charges the world could become a better place.


It surprises me that even the leftist, supposedly moral nations of Scandinavia are ignoring the issue.  Attempts were made in Spain, Germany, Canada and Switzerland to charge various members of the Bush crew, but those efforts all folded to political influence.  Only Malaysia went so far as to convict  Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales and Bush Administration legal advisers David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo of war crimes.

And then Sweden goes all lap dog at the US request to extradite Julian Assange, using very minor charges the no one has ever been previously pursued for.  Assange should have just tortured a Muslim and he'd be off scot-free.
 
2013-04-13 03:45:53 PM
I, for one, am glad that their guilt does not reflect upon the American People -- or touch on them in any way.
 
2013-04-13 03:47:46 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: El Pachuco: Yes, we must definitely ignore the credible charges of torture, murder and unprovoked war for former members of the Bush administration because other folks may have done similar things in the past.

I meant it would be a realllllyyyy long list of people in the American Government.


Well, we certainly wouldn't want people in the American government to reconsider policies of torture etc. and not do them in the future.
 
2013-04-13 03:52:01 PM

El Pachuco: Well, we certainly wouldn't want people in the American government to reconsider policies of torture etc. and not do them in the future.


I'm sure the Russians giving us lessons in ethical behavior will certainly go a long way in solving this problem.

You seem to confuse my snark at the idea of the existence of this stupid list with approval for the actions that landed people on it.
 
2013-04-13 03:53:13 PM
One can always count on Russia for consistent tit-for-tat.
 
2013-04-13 04:01:20 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: El Pachuco: Well, we certainly wouldn't want people in the American government to reconsider policies of torture etc. and not do them in the future.

I'm sure the Russians giving us lessons in ethical behavior will certainly go a long way in solving this problem.

You seem to confuse my snark at the idea of the existence of this stupid list with approval for the actions that landed people on it.


Not at all - I'm exploiting your snark for the opportunity to publicize the fact that the previous administration committed war crimes, and so far, hasn't had to accept much accountability in the US or abroad.

Your tu-quoque about the Russians reminds me of an earlier thread, where after hundreds of posts nobody was disputing that GWB was a war criminal, they were just saying he'd never be prosecuted for it.  So, just to emphasize that point, it's popularly agreed that a former US president is a war criminal.
 
2013-04-13 04:09:47 PM
Putin: You're going to compare me to Stalin?! Then I'll just start acting like him! That'll show you!
 
2013-04-13 04:20:17 PM

Gyrfalcon: Putin: You're going to compare me to Stalin?! Then I'll just start acting like him! That'll show you!


www.thetick.ws

/It's an homage!
//Read a book!!!
 
2013-04-13 04:40:20 PM

HighOnCraic: Gyrfalcon: Putin: You're going to compare me to Stalin?! Then I'll just start acting like him! That'll show you!

[www.thetick.ws image 182x230]

/It's an homage!
//Read a book!!!


...even now he sulks like Achilles in his tent
 
2013-04-13 04:44:43 PM
" A u vas negrov bjut"
 
2013-04-13 06:23:10 PM
Are Crimes Against Humanity still ok, because I got warrants.
 
2013-04-13 07:31:32 PM

El Pachuco: JasonOfOrillia: If we could get all countries to ban each-others alleged war criminals until they face up their charges the world could become a better place.

It surprises me that even the leftist, supposedly moral nations of Scandinavia are ignoring the issue.  Attempts were made in Spain, Germany, Canada and Switzerland to charge various members of the Bush crew, but those efforts all folded to political influence.  Only Malaysia went so far as to convict  Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales and Bush Administration legal advisers David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo of war crimes.

And then Sweden goes all lap dog at the US request to extradite Julian Assange, using very minor charges the no one has ever been previously pursued for.  Assange should have just tortured a Muslim and he'd be off scot-free.


Didn't the Italians prosecute Cheney and some others in absentia? I thought I heard that somewhere but teh Googles aren't turning up anything.
 
2013-04-13 07:34:36 PM
John Yoo is a real gem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO2p0KHyzpw  (nsfw)
 
2013-04-13 07:58:10 PM
I wish I could post images from mobile.

Grumpy cat's "good" comes to mind.
 
2013-04-13 08:07:40 PM
Is there a reward? Would it be substantial enough for the pilot of a commercial airliner to divert to Russian territory and turn them in, if they happen to be aboard?
 
2013-04-13 08:09:11 PM

fusillade762: Didn't the Italians prosecute Cheney and some others in absentia? I thought I heard that somewhere but teh Googles aren't turning up anything.


If memory serves, about half a dozen CIA agents were so tried for kidnapping someone off of a street in Italy and shipping them elsewhere to be tortured.
 
2013-04-13 08:21:18 PM

AndreMA: fusillade762: Didn't the Italians prosecute Cheney and some others in absentia? I thought I heard that somewhere but teh Googles aren't turning up anything.

If memory serves, about half a dozen CIA agents were so tried for kidnapping someone off of a street in Italy and shipping them elsewhere to be tortured.


I recall some Belgian court trying bush (sr. Of all people) for desert storm.

Sometimes protests get weird.
 
2013-04-13 08:51:55 PM

TheBigJerk: I wish I could post images from mobile.

Grumpy cat's "good" comes to mind.


Use your photo hosting site's mobile app and c/p the html like this

img.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-13 09:34:10 PM

TheBigJerk: AndreMA: fusillade762: Didn't the Italians prosecute Cheney and some others in absentia? I thought I heard that somewhere but teh Googles aren't turning up anything.

If memory serves, about half a dozen CIA agents were so tried for kidnapping someone off of a street in Italy and shipping them elsewhere to be tortured.

I recall some Belgian court trying bush (sr. Of all people) for desert storm.

Sometimes protests get weird.


That makes no sense. Desert Storm was probably the last lawful military action we did. George HW Bush can hardly be faulted for what happened in that one.
 
2013-04-13 10:26:03 PM
great, guess I'll have to cancel that trans-siberian rail....oh wait....u.s. government? whewwww, dodged that bullet.
 
2013-04-13 10:44:06 PM

Gyrfalcon: TheBigJerk: AndreMA: fusillade762: Didn't the Italians prosecute Cheney and some others in absentia? I thought I heard that somewhere but teh Googles aren't turning up anything.

If memory serves, about half a dozen CIA agents were so tried for kidnapping someone off of a street in Italy and shipping them elsewhere to be tortured.

I recall some Belgian court trying bush (sr. Of all people) for desert storm.

Sometimes protests get weird.

That makes no sense. Desert Storm was probably the last lawful military action we did. George HW Bush can hardly be faulted for what happened in that one.


Oh I know, it was retarded.  I also may be mistaken on one or more details, it was just one of those, "I have enough clout and enough free time to make a big show trial about how much I and my political constituents dislike America's foreign policy."

/trivia am fun
 
2013-04-13 11:23:32 PM

heinrich66: AIN'T WAR CRIMES IF WE DO IT

(Does taking out JFK in broad daylight also count?)


Yes. Yes it does.
depletedcranium.com
 
2013-04-13 11:25:17 PM
The Bush administration is allowing the Russian to feel morally superior.

Let that sink in.
 
2013-04-13 11:45:57 PM

Gyrfalcon: That makes no sense. Desert Storm was probably the last lawful military action we did. George HW Bush can hardly be faulted for what happened in that one.


That's a bizarre use of the word "lawful."
 
2013-04-15 12:37:08 AM

DeaH: The Bush administration is allowing the Russian to feel morally superior.

Let that sink in.


The Vietnam war was also no picnic.

Though we should prosecute Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld while they are still alive.
 
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