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(The Detroit_News)   In what category did Michigan outpace the national average by 12% in 2012? Was it: a) Pantsless arrests, b) Commercials featuring Tim Allen voice-overs, or c) Brewery openings?   (detroitnews.com) divider line 81
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2013-04-13 01:12:50 PM
I'd want to be drunk off my ass all the time if I had to live in Michigan, too.
 
2013-04-13 01:13:51 PM
No comment greenlight? Did Drew greenlight this?
 
2013-04-13 01:14:03 PM
d) All of the above.
 
2013-04-13 01:15:57 PM
Not only beer, but various meads as well.  And they're well done:  you can get almost anything beer-wise here, and it really tastes great.
 
2013-04-13 01:16:24 PM
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2013-04-13 01:16:31 PM
Was hoping the spiffy tag was for Pantsless arrests. Still spiffy though.
 
2013-04-13 01:18:39 PM
More beer will no doubt mean more pantsless arrests this year.

/Perhaps Tim Allen will talk about it.
 
2013-04-13 01:18:57 PM
Surely such a travesty has never occurred
 
2013-04-13 01:20:45 PM

Smoking GNU: No comment greenlight? Did Drew greenlight this?


Subby here, I have no farking clue. I didn't expect this to get greened, honestly. However, it is pretty nice to live in a state with over 100 breweries (5th most in the US), a number of which produce some very fine beers.
 
2013-04-13 01:24:11 PM
d) Lupus.

It's always d). Lupus.
 
2013-04-13 01:26:19 PM
Went to the Short's festival last July in Traverse City and it was awesome (hot as balls though).
 
2013-04-13 01:26:30 PM

Polish Hussar: Smoking GNU: No comment greenlight? Did Drew greenlight this?

Subby here, I have no farking clue. I didn't expect this to get greened, honestly. However, it is pretty nice to live in a state with over 100 breweries (5th most in the US), a number of which produce some very fine beers.


Plus, JK Scrumpy, I believe the best cider in the free world.
 
2013-04-13 01:27:59 PM
Never thought I'd say this, but....

Good for you, Michigan!
 
2013-04-13 01:30:24 PM
100 in your state? That's cute we have 60+ in our city.
 
2013-04-13 01:35:02 PM
The Grand Rapids brewing scene has been doing some big things lately, but the thing I really love about it is the way microbreweries are becoming neighborhood pubs. My wife and I live in Eastown and have been spending at least a couple nights a week at Harmony Brewing Co, Brewery Vivant is the local for a lot of our friends in East Hills, and the Mitten just opened on Leonard for westsiders. None of these were around 3 years ago - really exciting to see these smaller places open.
 
2013-04-13 01:35:32 PM

shArkh: I'd want to be drunk off my ass all the time if I had to live in Michigan, too.


That's the type of statement only a moran would make.
 
2013-04-13 01:36:29 PM

Corvus: 100 in your state? That's cute we have 60+ in our city.


100 is bigger than 60.  Plus, Iggy could choke slam the entire Aerosmith band without missing a verse.
 
2013-04-13 01:39:18 PM
Michigan has some pretty stellar breweries.
 
2013-04-13 01:39:23 PM

shArkh: I'd want to be drunk off my ass all the time if I had to live in Michigan, too.


Living in the Metro Detroit area will certainly drive you to it.
 
2013-04-13 01:45:06 PM
San Diego county is getting a pile of new ones recently too.
They're all gonna be lost in the dust unless ratebeer starts posting 95+ points.
 
2013-04-13 01:51:15 PM
Fark Tim Allen and his "beautiful Michigan" commercials. Jesus, Michigan is a shiat-hole, far from beautiful. Why would I voluntarily subject my car to your god damn roads just to reach the marvelous golf courses your state has?
 
2013-04-13 01:53:54 PM
As a recent transplant to the metro Detroit area from Texas, the brewpub and microbrew scene is what got me through the winter.

I am looking forward to the Michigan Brewers Guild summer fest or whatever it is.
 
2013-04-13 01:53:59 PM
Michigan is a terrible place.

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We should be ashamed to live here. I woke up yesterday in my crack house to find somebody had burned down the abandoned house next door. I would probably move, but I was car jacked so I can't really go anywhere, and nobody will pay me more than $100 for my house, It's sad, really, the largest state east of the Mississippi and the entire state is full of burned out crack houses, homes to unemployed automobile workers who sell rabbits for pets or meat. Our two biggest universities continually dwell in the basement of their standings in sports like Football and Basketball, and our pro teams have given us nothing but misery for decades.

None of you Farkers ever want to come here. Just stay away for your own good.
 
2013-04-13 01:56:23 PM
Is that Tim Allen doing "pure Michigan"?
My brain always conjures up George Clooney when I see/hear those commercials (which are nicely done, I might add).
 
2013-04-13 01:56:33 PM

jjwars1: shArkh: I'd want to be drunk off my ass all the time if I had to live in Michigan, too.

That's the type of statement only a moran would make.


Right. You'd want to be sober at least long enough to look for out of state employment once in awhile or else you'll be stuck in Michigan forever.

/shudder
 
2013-04-13 01:58:42 PM

Vance Uppercut: Corvus: 100 in your state? That's cute we have 60+ in our city.

100 is bigger than 60.  Plus, Iggy could choke slam the entire Aerosmith band without missing a verse.


City is a lot smaller than state. Usually.
 
2013-04-13 02:00:56 PM
Thanks, subby.  I never could figure out whose voice that was on the Pure Michigan commercials.  It bothered me every damn time it came on.
 
2013-04-13 02:02:16 PM

cannibalparrot: Vance Uppercut: Corvus: 100 in your state? That's cute we have 60+ in our city.

100 is bigger than 60.  Plus, Iggy could choke slam the entire Aerosmith band without missing a verse.

City is a lot smaller than state. Usually.


And 60 is a lot smaller than 100.  Usually.  Let's keep this logicpollooza going!
 
2013-04-13 02:02:23 PM
Bell's, Founders, and Jolly Pumpkin could be all Michigan had and that would be good.  Wish I could get some of those down here instead of having to rely on trades and road trips back to the midwest.

Think I'll have a Hop Slam tonight, or maybe a BCS. . .
 
2013-04-13 02:02:40 PM

jayphat: Fark Tim Allen and his "beautiful Michigan" commercials. Jesus, Michigan is a shiat-hole, far from beautiful. Why would I voluntarily subject my car to your god damn roads just to reach the marvelous golf courses your state has?


No way, mang.  Love Tawas in the summer, beautiful place.  I like snowmobiling in the winter, so extra snow is good.  You can always have a cheap vacation just by going "up north" in the winter.  Plus, you've got Shorts, Founders, Bell's, New Holland, Vivant, Jolly Pumpkin...  And some of the best beer bars and stores around, like HopCat, Monks Taproom and Kalamazoo Beer Exchange.

Only problem is, they're a state that limits the number of liquor licenses on a per capita basis.  There's a whole economy just buying and selling the rights to licenses; it can cost tens of thousands of dollars in premium locations.  In contrast, here in greater St. Louis, it cost me a grand total of $400 for my various licenses.
 
2013-04-13 02:07:29 PM
The more important question is, Which state is the leading one for pantsless arrests?

Please be somewhere with attractive people, not people of Walmart types.
 
2013-04-13 02:08:59 PM

Corvus: 100 in your state? That's cute we have 60+ in our city.



And about half of them aren't worth mentioning.

MI brewers have a tendency to kick ass at judged events, and create huge demand for limited releases.  Look up Founders KBS and how people went nuts trying to get their hands on some.

Michigan, The Great Beer State!
/Proud member of the Michigan Brewers Guild.
 
2013-04-13 02:11:21 PM

shArkh: I'd want to be drunk off my ass all the time if I had to live in Michigan, too.


Yeah with them making pot dispensaries illegal, there's nothing to do but become an alcoholic anymore.
 
2013-04-13 02:15:48 PM

shArkh: I'd want to be drunk off my ass all the time if I had to live in Michigan, too.


I've lived in quite a few places and Michigan was the second best, right behind San Antonio.
 
2013-04-13 02:19:44 PM

tuna fingers: cannibalparrot: Vance Uppercut: Corvus: 100 in your state? That's cute we have 60+ in our city.

100 is bigger than 60.  Plus, Iggy could choke slam the entire Aerosmith band without missing a verse.

City is a lot smaller than state. Usually.

And 60 is a lot smaller than 100.  Usually.  Let's keep this logicpollooza going!


Do you understand the concepts of "per capita" or "per square mile?"
 
2013-04-13 02:25:42 PM

Popcorn Johnny: shArkh: I'd want to be drunk off my ass all the time if I had to live in Michigan, too.

I've lived in quite a few places and Michigan was the second best, right behind San Antonio.


You've never lived in Flint apparently.
 
2013-04-13 02:32:11 PM

detritus: You've never lived in Flint apparently.


Wait, Flint is good? I've never lived in Flint but drove through it a few times and that was more than enough for me.
 
2013-04-13 02:33:44 PM
Jokes about Michigan are old. Yes Detroit has been down for a long time, however the rest of the state has done ok lately. Have fun ripping this state, we have heard every joke and laugh at them ourselves. Fact is that many in this state work very hard and have a good attitude towards life.

It is really brave to move to a better economy. Honestly, it is so much braver to give up and move than to stand your ground and fight. My father in law moved to Arizona after talking about how the economy is so bad in michigan. He had a boom bust scenario in which his house lost over half it's value. My house has increased over 20 percent.

Bragging that your city has over 60 breweries is pretty lame. We should give you a medal of some sort.
 
2013-04-13 02:39:25 PM
Spent last week in southwest mi helping a friend gut a house, had dinner each night at greenbush brewery so I am getting a kick, etc...
 
2013-04-13 02:42:56 PM

Vance Uppercut: Corvus: 100 in your state? That's cute we have 60+ in our city.

100 is bigger than 60.  Plus, Iggy could choke slam the entire Aerosmith band without missing a verse.


We saw Aerosmith warm up Blue Oyster Cult at the Aragon Ballroom in 1974. They sucked. They were so high on H they couldn't perform. We booed them off the stage.
 
2013-04-13 02:44:13 PM
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2013-04-13 02:45:50 PM
I was lucky enough to have a day off on the day Founder's delivered KBS to the local stores in Grand Rapids.  I managed to score two bottles (stores were rationing) before the town went dry.
It's that good.
 
2013-04-13 03:17:14 PM
Beer City 2012!
 
2013-04-13 03:48:03 PM

Vance Uppercut: Corvus: 100 in your state? That's cute we have 60+ in our city.

100 is bigger than 60.  Plus, Iggy could choke slam the entire Aerosmith band without missing a verse.


My one experience with Massachusetts breweries was the Cambridge Brewing Company, and while the beer was fine, they would not allow my friend and I to order the giant yard of beer thing with a spigot. Apparently a party must contain three people to order it. We could have as many pints as we wanted, but no cool beer spigot thing. And we couldn't buy beer at the grocery store.

So fark your state and its puritanical alcohol laws.
 
2013-04-13 03:51:22 PM
I go to Ann Arbor and Detroit monthly for work.  I drink *very* well while I'm there.
 
2013-04-13 03:56:59 PM

McGrits: As a recent transplant to the metro Detroit area from Texas, the brewpub and microbrew scene is what got me through the winter.

I am looking forward to the Michigan Brewers Guild summer fest or whatever it is.


They actually do four beer fests; one each season in different parts of the state.  The autumn one in Eastern Market is my favorite.  The summer one is great, but it gets really crowded and the weather can get in the way. Couple tips for you:

Bring food. Even just a string of pretzels around your neck or granola bars, but you need something. The food they sell in the tents sucks.

If its raining, wear appropriate clothing and shoes and prepare to get dirty.  The park they hold it in turns into a giant mud hole with enough rain.  A couple years ago, 2009 or 2010 I think, we had a ton of rain and it was like walking through a swamp full of drunken people.
 
2013-04-13 03:58:09 PM
The rash of brewery openings - a bubble or sustainable trend?
 
2013-04-13 04:03:42 PM
Tim Allen rules. Downtown Detroit has always been industrial hell. Its not like it just appeared out of nowhere in 2000. Its always been sketchy. Michigan is 95% farmland - something something fresh water. The haters here have never been to the mitten.
 
2013-04-13 04:03:57 PM
FTFA - "In Michigan, craft beer accounted for about 3 percent of the market and likely gained a percentage point last year"

Wow. I mean i know the average person has a fridge perpetually full of Miller/Anheiser staples, but I would have never guessed craft is only 3%, and even a portion of that must be out of state stuff.
But i definitely feel like the Michigan-made beers are much more available than even 10 years ago, so it's definitely growing. It helps that there's a lot of delicious stuff that i can buy on sale at meijer.
 
2013-04-13 04:16:06 PM

Tawnos: The rash of brewery openings - a bubble or sustainable trend?


Tough question.  I think it's kinda both.  Back in the 1960s, Julio Gallo had something like 90% of the US wine market.  Thunderbird (a rotgut fortified box wine) was the top selling brand.  Now, no single wine has more than 10% share, and Gallo, while still big, is not the force it once was.

Now, I'm not suggesting that InBev-Modelo is going to fall or that Bud Light will go crashing down to 10% share.  But I think a much more diverse market is here to stay.

The other side of the coin, though, is that you can't survive unless you're making good beer, and consolidation is a normal part of the business cycle - the bigger craft breweries will continue to swallow up smaller breweries.

So if you make great beer, you should be golden.
 
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