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2013-04-13 09:58:39 AM  
"Prescriptions were most frequently written for children under 10 and adults 6 and older " Must be new math. Anyway, using antibiotics for viral disease is dumb.
 
2013-04-13 11:14:43 AM  

simplicimus: Anyway, using antibiotics for viral disease is dumb.


That depends too. In many cases, they're not using it to treat the viral disease, but to prophylactically protect patients who are at risk for a bacterial superinfection. Young children and the elderly are infamous for getting bacterial infections and sepsis during a viral infection. Anyone getting surgery is getting an empiric dose of a broad-spectrum antibiotic - in fact it's considered a standard of care.
 
2013-04-13 11:41:22 AM  

hardinparamedic: simplicimus: Anyway, using antibiotics for viral disease is dumb.

That depends too. In many cases, they're not using it to treat the viral disease, but to prophylactically protect patients who are at risk for a bacterial superinfection. Young children and the elderly are infamous for getting bacterial infections and sepsis during a viral infection. Anyone getting surgery is getting an empiric dose of a broad-spectrum antibiotic - in fact it's considered a standard of care.


True, but our overuse of antibiotics is evolving more resistant strains of bacteria.
 
2013-04-13 11:45:15 AM  
My daughter takes some sort of antibiotic for her acne other than that no one here has taken any for years. I thnk it's been 10+. I always give my body a few days to knock it out before going to the doctor.
 
2013-04-13 12:15:12 PM  

hardinparamedic: simplicimus: Anyway, using antibiotics for viral disease is dumb.

That depends too. In many cases, they're not using it to treat the viral disease, but to prophylactically protect patients who are at risk for a bacterial superinfection. Young children and the elderly are infamous for getting bacterial infections and sepsis during a viral infection. Anyone getting surgery is getting an empiric dose of a broad-spectrum antibiotic - in fact it's considered a standard of care.


But do antibiotics protect them from split infinitives?

/apologies
 
2013-04-13 12:18:49 PM  

Gwendolyn: My daughter takes some sort of antibiotic for her acne other than that no one here has taken any for years. I thnk it's been 10+. I always give my body a few days to knock it out before going to the doctor.


You just admitted you have a teen aged daughter on Fark
 
2013-04-13 12:20:59 PM  
I'm really worried about antibiotic resistance so when I get the flu and get antibiotics I only take it for a day or two so the viruses don't have a chance to build a tolerance.
 
2013-04-13 12:32:50 PM  

BigLuca: I'm really worried about antibiotic resistance so when I get the flu and get antibiotics I only take it for a day or two so the viruses don't have a chance to build a tolerance.


I really hope this is a joke
 
2013-04-13 12:38:30 PM  

larkmaj: BigLuca: I'm really worried about antibiotic resistance so when I get the flu and get antibiotics I only take it for a day or two so the viruses don't have a chance to build a tolerance.

I really hope this is a joke


A joke,  i assume. Anti-virals would be the better way to go.
 
2013-04-13 12:39:52 PM  
I'm just impressed to hear that 80% of Americans could afford to visit a doctor, good for you America.
 
2013-04-13 12:41:46 PM  
"Why is West Virginia more than double compared to Alaska? I imagine there are provider factors, patient factors and cultural factors that are all shaping the impact," study author Lauri Hicks, medical director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said to HealthDay.

That's a fancy imagination you got there; I bet it's the healing power of the ocean.
 
2013-04-13 12:43:16 PM  

larkmaj: BigLuca: I'm really worried about antibiotic resistance so when I get the flu and get antibiotics I only take it for a day or two so the viruses don't have a chance to build a tolerance.

I really hope this is a joke


Yeah it is.  I use homeopathy when my kids get strep.  But don't worry, I keep them away from all the vaccine poison.  I was vaccinated against polio when I was a kid and now I have fibromyalgia.

/can't think of any more...
 
2013-04-13 12:55:28 PM  

simplicimus: larkmaj: BigLuca: I'm really worried about antibiotic resistance so when I get the flu and get antibiotics I only take it for a day or two so the viruses don't have a chance to build a tolerance.

I really hope this is a joke

A joke,  i assume. Anti-virals would be the better way to go.


It was that and the fact that you're supposed to finish a regiment of antibiotics even if the symptoms disappear after a couple days.  BigLuca was in fact joking thankfully, one of those sarcastic remarks that could just as easily have been honest.
 
2013-04-13 12:55:34 PM  

simplicimus: hardinparamedic: simplicimus: Anyway, using antibiotics for viral disease is dumb.

That depends too. In many cases, they're not using it to treat the viral disease, but to prophylactically protect patients who are at risk for a bacterial superinfection. Young children and the elderly are infamous for getting bacterial infections and sepsis during a viral infection. Anyone getting surgery is getting an empiric dose of a broad-spectrum antibiotic - in fact it's considered a standard of care.

True, but our overuse of antibiotics is evolving more resistant strains of bacteria.


The solution is to let customers buy them from pharmacies without a prescription, saving them from having tho listen to dumb old doctors.
 
2013-04-13 01:10:21 PM  
My doctor is pretty careful about prescribing antibiotics these days.

However, I think this study is kinda silly.  I had my wisdom teeth out this year- my dental surgeon prescribed antibiotics. Should I have not had antibiotics after that? really?
 
2013-04-13 01:17:31 PM  
Medicine will kill us all. Thanks for the overpopulation, science!
 
2013-04-13 01:26:10 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: hardinparamedic: simplicimus: Anyway, using antibiotics for viral disease is dumb.

That depends too. In many cases, they're not using it to treat the viral disease, but to prophylactically protect patients who are at risk for a bacterial superinfection. Young children and the elderly are infamous for getting bacterial infections and sepsis during a viral infection. Anyone getting surgery is getting an empiric dose of a broad-spectrum antibiotic - in fact it's considered a standard of care.

But do antibiotics protect them from split infinitives?

/apologies


While inappropriate at times, split infinitives are perfectly acceptable in many cases.
 
2013-04-13 01:48:18 PM  
I find the "4 out of 5" statistic very hard to believe.  First, I doubt that 4 of 5 Americans go to the doctor once per year.  Second, I have probably taken antibiotics twice in the 21 years since I turned 18.  I doubt that I am that far out of the norm.
 
2013-04-13 01:56:12 PM  

BigLuca: larkmaj: BigLuca: I'm really worried about antibiotic resistance so when I get the flu and get antibiotics I only take it for a day or two so the viruses don't have a chance to build a tolerance.

I really hope this is a joke

Yeah it is.  I use homeopathy when my kids get strep.  But don't worry, I keep them away from all the vaccine poison.  I was vaccinated against polio when I was a kid and now I have fibromyalgia.

/can't think of any more...


Homeopathy is great for viral infections! After all, it'll ensure you're well hydrated.
 
2013-04-13 02:05:28 PM  
"Doctors and other health care providers prescribed 258 million courses of antibiotics in 2010, for a population just shy of 309 million" does not mean "4 out of 5 Americans prescribed antibiotics each year."


"Doctors and other health care providers prescribed 258 million courses of antibiotics in 2010, for a population just shy of 309 million" does not mean "4 out of 5 Americans prescribed antibiotics each year."


"Doctors and other health care providers prescribed 258 million courses of antibiotics in 2010, for a population just shy of 309 million" does not mean "4 out of 5 Americans prescribed antibiotics each year."


farking idiots.
 
2013-04-13 02:12:54 PM  
I'm on some now that I was prescribed prophylactically after getting one of my canines removed after my body decided to "resorb" it, which killed the tooth and weakened it. I'm being a good boy and taking the whole dose, though.
 
2013-04-13 02:20:59 PM  
I am taking Doryx for my shiatty acne.  It's absolutely the worst shaped pill to swallow.  Stupid bacteria.  I'm already depressed and losing my hair so I figure Accutane is just fine and maybe those side effects will go full retard opposite.  Probably not.
 
2013-04-13 02:35:35 PM  
I just got some antibiotics for the first time in many years. I've had a sore throat for like two weeks and I saw that the bag of lozenges said that if the sore throat lasts for more than a week that I should see a doctor.
 
2013-04-13 03:13:51 PM  
I haven't taken an antibiotic in at least a decade

My ederly mother had to take some a little over a year ago for an infection
She was hospitalized at the time, so no worries about stopping taking it half way through treatment due to feeling better

I'd like to thank everyone for beeing breeders for superbugs though
 
2013-04-13 03:14:48 PM  
I think one might say I've lost faith: I haven't been to the doctor in over 5 years, I haven't been to the dentist in slightly longer than that, & excluding weddings and funerals I haven't been to church in over 16 years.

Aside from being a little over weight I'm healthy, teeth are a little crooked, but I've got all of them including all 4 wisdoms, and I'm...well okay, I admit it; I am evil, but think of all the money I've saved on tithing/indulgences.
 
2013-04-13 03:31:52 PM  
I haven't been to a doctor in 15 years and I'm doing just arrrggghhh

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2013-04-13 03:35:53 PM  
Doctors over use antibiotics because people come into their office and will not leave until "DOCTOR GIVE ME MAGIC MAKE ME BETTER PILLS!"

Oh well. We've been due for a plague that kills off half the population anyways. Earth cannot support 6 billion people, and nature will see to it that that number is adjusted.
 
2013-04-13 03:48:33 PM  
Math Fail, smitty.

The number of antibiotic prescriptions was 80% of the population.  Since many people get more than one antibiotic precription, the total number of people receiving prescriptions is less than 80%.
 
2013-04-13 03:53:10 PM  

fluffy2097: Doctors over use antibiotics because people come into their office and will not leave until "DOCTOR GIVE ME MAGIC MAKE ME BETTER PILLS!"

Oh well. We've been due for a plague that kills off half the population anyways. Earth cannot support 6 billion people, and nature will see to it that that number is adjusted.


Unfortunately, pandemic plagues are still not likely to happen because, even if superbacteria are out there, we know enough about transmission vectors and treating of symptoms to limit its spread.

/also, bacteria capable of causing plagues tend not to be the ones that develop resistance
 
2013-04-13 03:56:13 PM  

Katie98_KT: My doctor is pretty careful about prescribing antibiotics these days.

However, I think this study is kinda silly.  I had my wisdom teeth out this year- my dental surgeon prescribed antibiotics. Should I have not had antibiotics after that? really?


The human mouth is filthy. Your prescription was a necessity.
 
2013-04-13 04:18:58 PM  
I had heart problems as a child (coarctation of the aorta and endocarditis for those curious), so I have to have antibiotics 24 hours before and after any surgery, including dental work.  I had horrible teeth problems after my daughter was born and probably went through over half a dozen scripts before all of the offending teeth could be removed.  So, people like me skew the data.
 
2013-04-13 04:22:13 PM  
*raises hand*

Um, is this based on prescriptions actually written by a physician, or those actually dispensed by a pharmacist?
 
2013-04-13 04:25:46 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: Katie98_KT: My doctor is pretty careful about prescribing antibiotics these days.

However, I think this study is kinda silly.  I had my wisdom teeth out this year- my dental surgeon prescribed antibiotics. Should I have not had antibiotics after that? really?

The human mouth is filthy. Your prescription was a necessity.


I didn't get any. The surgeon gave me some sort of peroxide solution that I would squirt over the area on a regular basis to keep it clean. For a few days I was mainly eating liquids and soft foods I didn't have to chew (couldn't even open my mouth all that wide), so the risk of infection between cleanings was probably low. Besides, the gums heal up pretty quickly, at least at the very surface so there's a barrier against most substances in the mouth. Otherwise I'd have been in trouble back then, and several times as a kid when I had some of my baby teeth pulled. Back then, all I got were a few sterile gauze pads to stop the bleeding. Again, no infections. I would assume antibiotics as a preventive measure are usually unnecessary in these situations.
 
2013-04-13 04:49:33 PM  
Just wait until drug resistant space herpies starts spreading around.
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2013-04-13 05:05:17 PM  
woah....  Now that I think of it, I have only had to take antibiotics about once every 3 years lately...  more or less.  My need to go to the doctor for infections (ex: strep throat) has been declining as I get older... so Who the hell is getting my extra doses?
 
2013-04-13 05:07:05 PM  
naaa... its even less than that....
 
2013-04-13 07:04:20 PM  
Funny, I thought putting antibiotics in animal feed in sub-therapeutic dosage levels was what was the primary contributing cause of resistant strains of bacteria.
 
2013-04-13 07:08:25 PM  

potterydove: Funny, I thought putting antibiotics in animal feed in sub-therapeutic dosage levels was what was the primary contributing cause of resistant strains of bacteria.


Hence the 80% of americans bit :P

/but yah, that's pretty much on the head exactly what's going down
 
2013-04-13 07:56:43 PM  
We need to stop this abuse.  Jail those druggies that shop from doctor to doctor to get their antibiotic fix and take away the doctors' licenses if they're caught catering to those types of "patients".  Make everyone present a valid, state issued photo ID and a blood sample before dispensing this dangerously addictive medication and track it all in a national database.  I'm tired of having to fear for my life walking down the street at night with all these addicts, strung out on azithromycin, looking to rob someone for the money to buy their next hit.
 
2013-04-13 08:12:03 PM  
Everyone needs a hobby.
So I take antibiotics every day just for the fun of it.

Some people like to jog,
some people build model airplanes,
me? I like to know that every bacteria I pass on to another human is that much closer to being a superbug.
 
2013-04-13 08:26:16 PM  
I had a cold last year/ this year (? when it was still officially winter) that lasted a few weeks. My coworkers kept insisting I a)had the flu and b) go to the doctor. 1) It was not the flu. My mother had the flu afterward and that was precisely not it just germy. b) they wanted me to get antibiotics which is useless if it's the the cold because it's a virus. Every time they get sick they talk about antibiotics like they're OTC drugs.
 
2013-04-14 01:34:47 AM  
I'm on antibiotics right now!

/Really bad bacterial conjunctivitis in one eye
//Arasi can't eye-bang me now
 
2013-04-14 01:48:17 AM  
"Some of the prescribing may not be warranted," Hicks said.

"We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are."

--Bill Hicks
 
2013-04-14 02:49:56 AM  

fluffy2097: Doctors over use antibiotics because people come into their office and will not leave until "DOCTOR GIVE ME MAGIC MAKE ME BETTER PILLS!"

Oh well. We've been due for a plague that kills off half the population anyways. Earth cannot support 6 billion people, and nature will see to it that that number is adjusted.


That's why we have 7 billion of them.
 
2013-04-14 08:58:10 AM  

potterydove: Funny, I thought putting antibiotics in animal feed in sub-therapeutic dosage levels was what was the primary contributing cause of resistant strains of bacteria.


ding ding ding! We have a winner. Livestock consume the overwhelming majority of antibiotics.  It makes them bigger, and is making us sicker
 
2013-04-14 09:10:49 AM  

BigLuca: larkmaj: BigLuca: I'm really worried about antibiotic resistance so when I get the flu and get antibiotics I only take it for a day or two so the viruses don't have a chance to build a tolerance.

I really hope this is a joke

Yeah it is.  I use homeopathy when my kids get strep.  But don't worry, I keep them away from all the vaccine poison.  I was vaccinated against polio when I was a kid and now I have fibromyalgia.

/can't think of any more...


This.  I wanted my kids to be awesome at Blackjack like Rainman, but no one tells you there are a slew of other diseases they can get from vaccines that don't make any money at all.
 
2013-04-14 09:37:22 AM  

Maul555: woah....  Now that I think of it, I have only had to take antibiotics about once every 3 years lately...  more or less.  My need to go to the doctor for infections (ex: strep throat) has been declining as I get older... so Who the hell is getting my extra doses?


people who didn't get their kids vaccinated.

They have much higher rates of illness and infection.

/shame Polio won't come back for those assholes.
 
2013-04-14 09:39:09 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: That's why we have 7 billion of them.


Goddamnit. My population numbers must be a few weeks off if it's 7 billion now.

Last month it was 6.

/in 10 years it will be 12.
//exponential farking.
///seemed like a good idea at the time.
 
2013-04-14 11:05:44 AM  
There is no way 80% of Americans were prescribed antibiotics last year.  80% of Americans didn't even see a doctor last year.
 
2013-04-14 12:23:06 PM  
I don't blame subby for the bad math in the headline - that was the exact headline from the article and it worked to get me to click in to prove it wrong.

/bad math is still bad, and subs should feel bad anyway
 
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