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(Grist)   A report from the Edison Electric Institute predicts that if 10% of people installed roof mounted solar panels it would destroy the electric utilities... Well Bye   (grist.org) divider line 8
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2013-04-13 04:08:58 PM
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Quite possibly the most ironic statement from the EDISON electric institute in the history of mankind..
2013-04-13 02:04:55 PM
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BumpInTheNight: Incoming post from that smug guy complete with pictures of his solar powered house incoming in 3...2...1...


Naaa, I'll post a picture of my solar (and wind, duh) powered sailboat for you instead, since I'm living on it in downtown Seattle this weekend.

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Then on Sunday, I'll drive from the marian to my solar powered home - in my solar powered electric car. And on Monday morning, I'll drive to my solar powered office. I've almost entirely eliminated my need for fossil fuels or the utilities.

/no snark
//lots of smug
2013-04-13 12:35:40 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_cost_of_electricity_generated_b y _different_sources#Analysis_from_different_sources

and NG wins .... nothing else even comes close. which explains all the fraking around the world.
cheap to get out of ground, cheap to transport, clean to burn, simple plants, etc.
2013-04-13 11:20:01 AM
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simplicimus: Since wind and solar introduce random amounts of power into the grid -it's not always sunny or windy, that creates a headache for utilities trying to balance their load.


Wind maybe,but solar runs very close to AC demand levels.

This could be resolved altogether by adding some type of capacitors or battery packs to residential systems to help smooth generation and demand.  One of the better ideas I've heard is to use electric cars to do this, so the Utlity can reach out and tap your car battery if they get a demand spike (and provide you a lower charging rate in return).
2013-04-13 10:17:57 AM
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Since wind and solar introduce random amounts of power into the grid -it's not always sunny or windy, that creates a headache for utilities trying to balance their load.
2013-04-13 10:12:15 AM
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I've recently had a 10KW system installed.

Have you done your part?
2013-04-13 09:45:16 AM
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I have a friend from work who just installed 11KW. He says he needs about 7.5. He has no backing store.
He will pump it back to the grid. This is in the mid-alantic. I've seen alot of growth in the neighborhood in the last 5 years.
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2013-04-13 06:08:27 AM
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mr_a: Not an expert, but I would bet the economics of this have changed over the last few years. Natural gas has gotten much cheaper with respect to coal and nuclear.


No, his argument is valid.  If you also consider that most utilities offer cash incentives to purchase energy efficient products like high SEER heatpumps, etc. that behavior strongly supports his statement.  They are doing everything they can to reduce grid loading so they DON'T have to upgrade with new coal fired backup plants or add reactors.  NOT building those backup plants or adding reactors, etc. saves them huge amounts of money.

It's the oil/coal industries which fear they will soon have millions of competitors putting power onto the grid.  There is a growing anti-solar lobby which is well funded by big oil.  Every time someone puts solar panels on a roof, that's less money in the pockets of the oil/coal industry and they don't like competitors.  They don't mind alcohol production because it's a zero sum gain, the alcohol production consumes as much oil energy as it produces in alcohol energy.  All the profit benefit goes to the big agro companies.
 
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