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2013-04-12 12:20:42 PM
Hos Love nubians?
Harry Licks Nelly?
 
2013-04-12 12:21:32 PM
Don't go killing people and maybe you'll be left alone. I know, I know, that's crazy talk.
 
2013-04-12 12:21:35 PM
This chick just reeks of batshiat awesomeness!
 
2013-04-12 12:22:20 PM
Hey everyone.  I dye my hair and I wear glasses.  I'm totally innocent now.
 
2013-04-12 12:23:21 PM
Why are criminals still allowed access to social media?

I can only imagine what it would have been like if Twitter, Facebook, etc... were around during the OJ Trial.
 
2013-04-12 12:24:12 PM
Horny lesbian network?
 
2013-04-12 12:24:33 PM

blatz514: This chick just reeks of batshiat awesomeness!


Crazy sex is awesome sex.  But in her case, it was to die for.
 
2013-04-12 12:25:34 PM
img0.joyreactor.com

I think she found herself a POSITIVE boyfriend!
 
2013-04-12 12:26:52 PM
Homicidal Latino Nymphomaniac
 
2013-04-12 12:27:22 PM
I've been folliwing this story closely, and I've come to the prelimnary conclusion that many people are going to be really disappointed with the verdict.
 
2013-04-12 12:29:06 PM

Bartleby the Scrivener: I've been folliwing this story closely, and I've come to the prelimnary conclusion that many people are going to be really disappointed with the verdict.


Mostly because the prosecutor really farked up the case
 
2013-04-12 12:29:14 PM
Insert Kim Jung Un joke here
assets.nydailynews.com
 
2013-04-12 12:29:15 PM

Bartleby the Scrivener: I've been folliwing this story closely, and I've come to the prelimnary conclusion that many people are going to be really disappointed with the verdict.


You think she should be found not guilty, or just that it's very possible she will?  I ca agree with the latter.  The media f*cks up court cases historically.
 
2013-04-12 12:31:20 PM

Bartleby the Scrivener: I've been folliwing this story closely, and I've come to the prelimnary conclusion that many people are going to be really disappointed with the verdict.


Why? because they aren't going to stab her 29 times, slit her throat, then shoot her in the head? Cuz that is what I'd do to her. I know, seems a bit much.
 
2013-04-12 12:32:58 PM
Really? I was certain it was an abbreviation for The Nancy Grace Missing White Girls and Sex Scandals Channel.
 
2013-04-12 12:33:44 PM
Who?
/oblig
 
2013-04-12 12:33:46 PM
Hate Lurid Nancy?
 
2013-04-12 12:35:25 PM

The Muthaship: Bartleby the Scrivener: I've been folliwing this story closely, and I've come to the prelimnary conclusion that many people are going to be really disappointed with the verdict.

You think she should be found not guilty, or just that it's very possible she will?  I ca agree with the latter.  The media f*cks up court cases historically.


Maybe after this one, they'll realize that if they actually want these people convicted like they say they do, they need to back the fark off and quit giving these things so much air time.  Let the prosecuter do his job without having to worry about the public's perception of him and his new found fame, and quit giving AW defendants the publicity they want.
 
2013-04-12 12:35:35 PM
Nancy Grace deserves to be mocked, nothing but a cloud of confusion. This chick probably has some issues. Some.Issues.Yeah.
 
2013-04-12 12:40:03 PM
Given that i believe everyone is innocent until found guilty in a court of law, i think she will be found not guilty, partly because of prosectorial ineptitude and partly because of the defense bolstering the domestic abuse/victim angle. In these types of "burning bed" defenses there is always a latent sympathy for the alleged victim. No juror wants to believe they have falsely convicted a potential victim. The psychological theories of domestic abuse ambiguous enough and readily adaptable to any counterargument that reasonable doubt creeps in.

Sorry for jot responding individually.
 
2013-04-12 12:41:27 PM
Typos. Ipad.
 
2013-04-12 12:44:19 PM
It's not Fark, it's Pinterest.com
 
2013-04-12 12:46:32 PM

Bartleby the Scrivener: I've been folliwing this story closely, and I've come to the prelimnary conclusion that many people are going to be really disappointed with the verdict.


Like basically every HLN on-air personality and "expert" guest that's commented on the case? I sure hope so.

Stupid question (for anyone), since I never got my GED in Law from a Fark-approved institution.  Let's say for a second that Arias is convicted.  How quickly will she win her appeal, since an entire cable channel has been proclaiming her guilt since her indictment?  If she is found not guilty, are there any grounds for her to go after Nancy Grace, et al, for defamation in any of its myriad forms?
 
2013-04-12 12:47:27 PM

Bartleby the Scrivener: I've been folliwing this story closely, and I've come to the prelimnary conclusion that many people are going to be really disappointed with the verdict.


Yeah it's either going to be not guilty or a damn hung jury so we have to go throught all this shiat again.
 
2013-04-12 12:48:22 PM
Hot Little Numbers.  Robin Meade wants to make out with me.
 
2013-04-12 12:53:54 PM

BlousyBrown: Bartleby the Scrivener: I've been folliwing this story closely, and I've come to the prelimnary conclusion that many people are going to be really disappointed with the verdict.

Why? because they aren't going to stab her 29 times, slit her throat, then shoot her in the head? Cuz that is what I'd do to her. I know, seems a bit much.


I'd stab it...
weknowmemes.com
 
2013-04-12 12:54:36 PM

jdjoker: Bartleby the Scrivener: I've been folliwing this story closely, and I've come to the prelimnary conclusion that many people are going to be really disappointed with the verdict.

Like basically every HLN on-air personality and "expert" guest that's commented on the case? I sure hope so.

Stupid question (for anyone), since I never got my GED in Law from a Fark-approved institution.  Let's say for a second that
Arias is convicted.  How quickly will she win her appeal, since an entire cable channel has been proclaiming her guilt since her indictment?  If she is found not guilty, are there any grounds for her to go after Nancy Grace, et al, for defamation in any of its myriad forms?




To be fair, nearly everyone has their beliefs and speculations. I can see sympathetic parties on both sides...those who have suffered real domestic abuse and know the consequences and those who have falsely accused by pathological types. I cant speak to the legality of the consequences of a conviction or jon conviction, but if convicted, my hunch is that she will appeal, and if not she will at least try to claim some kind of recompense.
 
2013-04-12 01:13:32 PM

Bartleby the Scrivener: Given that i believe everyone is innocent until found guilty in a court of law, i think she will be found not guilty, partly because of prosectorial ineptitude and partly because of the defense bolstering the domestic abuse/victim angle. In these types of "burning bed" defenses there is always a latent sympathy for the alleged victim. No juror wants to believe they have falsely convicted a potential victim. The psychological theories of domestic abuse ambiguous enough and readily adaptable to any counterargument that reasonable doubt creeps in.

Sorry for jot responding individually.


I seriously doubt that she'll be found "not guilty." Maybe 2nd degree though. And as far as the prosecutor goes he hasn't done shiat to worry about in this trial. Most people that know his methods say that this is simply Juan being Juan, and he does this with every trial and every witness. He only knows one speed and it's wide open. In fact, he has already put one of the two remaining women in Arizona on Death Row so he knows what it takes to get it done. I think the defense has some big problems with their case considering their last defense expert all but admitted he based his whole testimony on an Arais lie. And that he should have retested her after he found out she was lying but he just went with what she told him about 2 people doing the crime. The last lady has been better but her story has some problems as well. The State's case is much easier to prove considering the massive amount of overkill involved with Alexander's killing. That's not self-defense and it alone will get her convicted.
 
2013-04-12 01:32:01 PM
Draa

You may be right. Its still open. I do think however that the "overkill" is not as easy as you think. The entire defense is on her "snapping" and unleashing the "repressed rage" of an abuse victim. If the jury buys lavioletts opinion that arias was indeed a victim, and that "some" victims can respond with this type of violence, its over.
 
2013-04-12 01:33:15 PM

bedtundy: Why are criminals still allowed access to social media?

I can only imagine what it would have been like if Twitter, Facebook, etc... were around during the OJ Trial.


You do know that she isn't a "criminal" yet.
 
2013-04-12 02:11:08 PM

Bartleby the Scrivener: Draa

You may be right. Its still open. I do think however that the "overkill" is not as easy as you think. The entire defense is on her "snapping" and unleashing the "repressed rage" of an abuse victim. If the jury buys lavioletts opinion that arias was indeed a victim, and that "some" victims can respond with this type of violence, its over.



Even Laviolett has issues because she has a bias towards Jodi that is very evident watching her. The first thing she did was apologize to Arias when she met her. One would have to ask why? It was also noted that Laviolett's claims have a fatal flaw as well since they are based mainly on talking to Jodi and she's already admitted to being a liar. Plus, most jurors know that a defense expert will say whatever the defense lawyer wants them to say and she is no different.

As far as the way Arias killed him, many people would agree that one or two stab wounds, or even a single gun shot to the head might indicate self defense. It happens and that has worked in the past with other defendants. But 29 stabs, slitting his throat, and then shooting him in the head is something very different. That's not normal for someone trying to get away from their attacker. That's pure anger. If you add in the fact that she brought the gun with her it doesn't look good for the defense. Also, just ask yourself why there isn't any battered women's groups coming out to defend Arias? None. They would be all over this case if she was abused. They're not and that's very telling because even they know her claim is bullshait. Her only hope imo is a mis-trial at this point and the judge isn't likely to grant one.
 
2013-04-12 02:22:59 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Hot Little Numbers.  Robin Meade wants to make out with me.


Robin Meade is, without a doubt, the best-looking woman on TV.  Small world, she wants to make out with me, too.
 
2013-04-12 02:40:13 PM
Draa

I hear what youre saying, and can understand the rationale behind it.

These are some differences of opinion. I dont agree that "most jurors" know that experts are, or most likely are, hired guns. Voir dire In the US is notable for rejecting those with "educated" opinions, leaving many to believe that experts are experts by credential, qualification, or status. After all, jurors and experts sit in different seats in the courtroom.

Regarding women's groups, i cant speak to their involvement or lack thereof. That is an extrajudicial artifact nonetheless and their support...or not...shouldnt matter because it would be no different than nancy grace's, my, or your opinion.

Well see what happens. Cheers.
 
2013-04-12 02:40:49 PM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Bartleby the Scrivener: I've been folliwing this story closely, and I've come to the prelimnary conclusion that many people are going to be really disappointed with the verdict.

Mostly because the prosecutor really farked up the case


This is what I'm concerned about. Martinez is *not* a good prosecutor. He's WAY too combative and gets hung up on the tiniest semantic battles and ends up chasing his own tail so often that people lose track of the original point he was trying to make. He doesn't hone in on and bring out the important stuff, instead he spends a lot of time on sidetrack battles as he tries to get a witness to say the specific word he wants them to say. It's annoying and bizarre, and I think it's going to lose the case, at least for capital murder. He may get a lesser charge, but to me he should have brought out all the pre-planning that Arias did MUCH more strongly, and he didn't. That's what's going to fark up the case.
 
2013-04-12 02:49:08 PM

silvervial: This is what I'm concerned about. Martinez is *not* a good prosecutor. He's WAY too combative and gets hung up on the tiniest semantic battles and ends up chasing his own tail so often that people lose track of the original point he was trying to make. He doesn't hone in on and bring out the important stuff, instead he spends a lot of time on sidetrack battles as he tries to get a witness to say the specific word he wants them to say. It's annoying and bizarre, and I think it's going to lose the case, at least for capital murder. He may get a lesser charge, but to me he should have brought out all the pre-planning that Arias did MUCH more strongly, and he didn't. That's what's going to fark up the case.


What he should have done is just plead her out, instead he was thinking he could get a notch on his belt and send her to the needle. And in doing so his arrogance was his down fall. The defense is walking circles around him and putting enough doubt that at least one person on that jury is going to go no.

So we'll get deadlock mistrial, or not guilty
 
2013-04-12 02:49:36 PM

Bartleby the Scrivener: Given that i believe everyone is innocent until found guilty in a court of law, i think she will be found not guilty, partly because of prosectorial ineptitude and partly because of the defense bolstering the domestic abuse/victim angle. In these types of "burning bed" defenses there is always a latent sympathy for the alleged victim. No juror wants to believe they have falsely convicted a potential victim. The psychological theories of domestic abuse ambiguous enough and readily adaptable to any counterargument that reasonable doubt creeps in.

Sorry for jot responding individually.


I am *highly* sympathetic to abused victims fighting back and even killing their abusers, even though I have not been battered or abused myself. In the case where the one woman stabbed her husband 289 times, I think she should not have been convicted and the bastard deserved it and more.

In this case, however, the pre-planning that Arias did completely negates any possible "self defense" or "snapped due to abuse" thing. Even if she was mistreated by Alexander, and I think she was to a degree - it's not empowering or positive to be treated as a secret booty call - she did not suddenly snap and kill him. She drove over 1000 miles to get to him, dyed her hair, rented a car in a different city, stole her grandfather's gun, bought gas cans to use on part of the trip so she would not appear on gas station security cameras buying gas, etc.

In my opinion, that makes this case quite different.
 
2013-04-12 02:51:10 PM
and the BBC is Big Beef Curtains
 
2013-04-12 03:21:51 PM

silvervial: In this case, however, the pre-planning that Arias did completely negates any possible "self defense" or "snapped due to abuse" thing. Even if she was mistreated by Alexander, and I think she was to a degree - it's not empowering or positive to be treated as a secret booty call - she did not suddenly snap and kill him. She drove over 1000 miles to get to him, dyed her hair, rented a car in a different city, stole her grandfather's gun, bought gas cans to use on part of the trip so she would not appear on gas station security cameras buying gas, etc.

In my opinion, that makes this case quite different.


Exactly, and that's why I said to BtS that the jurors will see the difference and whether the defense expert's testimony is worthy of their consideration. I'm betting they won't believe much of what the experts have said because it's based off of what Arias has told them and she's a known liar. Too many lies so far for anybody to believe her now.

And the DE's can say all they want about abuse and it's simply their opinion. Their testimony means little in the scheme of the evidence so far and nothing they say will over ride the lengths she went to in order to kill him. It's too damning at this point. The jurors will be the ones making the final decision and I'd bet that they aren't going fooled by 2 or 3 people who are being paid $250 an hour to testify on Jodi's behalf. And the juror questions to both DE's indicate the same. Arias is a liar who's lied to her DE's and now they're trying to use her lies to justify their opinions. It simply won't work.
 
2013-04-12 03:25:50 PM

draa: I'm betting they won't believe much of what the experts have said because it's based off of what Arias has told them and she's a known liar. Too many lies so far for anybody to believe her now.


Not only that, but the domestic violence expert sounded way too much like she had a vested interest in the outcome.  Never good for an alleged "expert".
 
2013-04-12 03:50:20 PM

Bartleby the Scrivener: That is an extrajudicial artifact nonetheless and their support...or not...shouldnt matter because it would be no different than nancy grace's, my, or your opinion.


Agreed, but it's still enough for people watching this trial. There should be groups protesting outside of the courthouse if it was abuse. They're not. That says a lot about her claims imo.

I've witnessed abuse. Horrific abuse. To the point that my mom could have killed my dad and I would have understood. That said, she would still have been convicted and sent to prison if she had gone to the lengths that Arias went to in order to do it. Arias didn't have to go to Arizona and could have went to Utah instead. She went after the killing so why even bother with Arizona if that's the case? She didn't have to destroy evidence but she did. People who have defended themselves don't destroy evidence either. She didn't have to send e-mails and text messages to him after she killed him pretending he was still alive. She did that too. She certainly didn't have to go to his memorial service and hang out with his family and friends while acting like she didn't know anything about what happened. She did and that shows pure farking evil imo. These are not things people who have had to defend themselves would do. These are things a murderer would do when they are worried about getting caught.
 
2013-04-12 04:05:55 PM
They get to tweet from jail these days?
 
2013-04-12 04:35:21 PM

blatz514: This chick just reeks of batshiat awesomeness!


I love her style to the same degree I abhor her taste.

Dr. Phil?
Donald Trump?
 
2013-04-12 04:53:30 PM

tuna fingers: bedtundy: Why are criminals still allowed access to social media?

I can only imagine what it would have been like if Twitter, Facebook, etc... were around during the OJ Trial.

You do know that she isn't a "criminal" yet.


Oh................. she did that shiat.
 
2013-04-12 06:46:15 PM
Who the fark is Jodi Arias?
 
2013-04-13 01:18:11 AM
I have avoided the Arias trial and all the circus parade news noise, just like I do all the "BIG" trials that land on TV, and I despise Nancy Gunt with the heat of a billion suns because I don't believe trials should be played out in the "Court of Public Opinion" when a Venomous TV personality is playing her nasty little mind games with the public. I abhor ugliness and violence so this type of "news" makes me change the channel.

I've sat on a jury before and doing your civic duty can be all kinds of traumatic if you land on the wrong trial. I guess I believe in Innocent until proven guilty, that seems only fair. I'm not on the jury and have not had access to ALL the evidence so I will not be giving an opinion based on her having "Crazy Eyes" or hemorrhoids or whatever else people want to throw out there.
 
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