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(New York Daily News)   '42' hits a home-run. This is not a repeat from 1947   (nydailynews.com) divider line 42
    More: Spiffy, Jackie Robinson, Branch Rickey, Ebbets Field, Brian Helgeland, Alan Tudyk, sports films, biopic, Pee Wee Reese  
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2013-04-12 10:56:13 AM
Still lost to the Yankees.
 
2013-04-12 10:59:32 AM

OtherLittleGuy: Still lost to the Yankees.


Not in '55.

I'm kind of sad my mother is not healthy enough to see this. She was a big Brooklyn Dodgers fan back in the day.
 
2013-04-12 11:45:03 AM
I really wanted this movie to be accurate to history. I look forward to seeing it.
 
2013-04-12 11:51:05 AM
Things probably worked out for the best as far as the casting of Jackie Robinson.

I mean, using a well known actor, it always would have been "Oh, look, it's Chris Rock as Jackie Robinson!" This way, you're not taken out of the film by the guy who plays Robinson.

/kinda like how Christopher Reeve was cast as Superman.
 
2013-04-12 11:57:43 AM
Kinda want to see this. Anyone know if the music is period(yay), or is it hiphop like in the trailers(boo)?
 
2013-04-12 12:08:29 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Things probably worked out for the best as far as the casting of Jackie Robinson.

I mean, using a well known actor, it always would have been "Oh, look, it's Chris Rock as Jackie Robinson!" This way, you're not taken out of the film by the guy who plays Robinson.

/kinda like how Christopher Reeve was cast as Superman.


Yeah. You leave the big name star to the 2nd-biggest part in the movie (thus, Harrison Ford as Branch Rickey).
 
2013-04-12 12:12:56 PM

Nadie_AZ: I really wanted this movie to be accurate to history. I look forward to seeing it.


Me too. The Jay-Z score isn't encouraging
 
2013-04-12 12:17:59 PM

Nadie_AZ: I really wanted this movie to be accurate to history. I look forward to seeing it.


Just make sure you bring your towel.
 
2013-04-12 12:30:03 PM
Was hoping this was about Douglas Adams...
 
2013-04-12 12:41:45 PM

robohobo: Kinda want to see this. Anyone know if the music is period(yay), or is it hiphop like in the trailers(boo)?


yeah, the trailers aren't doing the movie any favors. At least the soundtrack.
 
2013-04-12 12:47:49 PM

Crewmannumber6: Nadie_AZ: I really wanted this movie to be accurate to history. I look forward to seeing it.

Me too. The Jay-Z score isn't encouraging


It's Brian Helgeland, the guy that put Bowie in the soundtrack for A Knight's Tale.  Bet the music is staying in.

Also, it's his first directed feature since The Order, starring Heath Ledger.  That was a, um, disappointing film.
 
2013-04-12 12:57:32 PM

robohobo: Kinda want to see this. Anyone know if the music is period(yay), or is it hiphop like in the trailers(boo)?


I'm not sure about '42', but Hollywood does this with just about every historical, afrocentric movie regardless of the period in which it's set. There was a movie about the Tuskeegee airmen that came out a few years ago and the trailers were all, "BOOM! Shake the room, yo! 'Cause gunnin' down Nazis is what we do, yo!".

I know they're trying to get the highly coveted 'youth' demographic to see these movies, but when I think of the quiet dignity and intestinal fortitude of a man like Jackie Robinson, I just can't seem to equate that with the assholish sense of entitlement and rampant ego of just about every hip hop artist, ever.
 
2013-04-12 12:57:55 PM
The fact that they put Jay-Z in the trailer pissed me off and this is coming from someone who's been listening to hip hop music for 20 years and making it for 8. What a way to cheapen the film. Why the fark are we using rap music in a period film about Jackie Robinson?
 
2013-04-12 01:02:42 PM
This is the first overwhelmingly positive review of the film I'm seen. The others I read said it was basically "okay", which wouldn't surprise me as my fear was the film would simply surround the lead with one-dimensional characters who simply force the linear, no shiat Sherlock narrative that "racism is bad" without much else.
 
2013-04-12 01:05:09 PM
I hope it's good, but the trailers make the movie look like every inspirational film cliche has been assembled into a script.
 
2013-04-12 01:14:35 PM

keepitcherry: The fact that they put Jay-Z in the trailer pissed me off and this is coming from someone who's been listening to hip hop music for 20 years and making it for 8. What a way to cheapen the film. Why the fark are we using rap music in a period film about Jackie Robinson?


I think it's purely a marketing ploy to get the desired 13-35 male demographic.

I think that the only real successful use of hip hop in a period trailer in recent memory though was for The Great Gatsby. You know, selling the decadent young people partying and living in most decadent ways to a tabloid generation that's obsessed with following every move of celebrities. It works.

It doesn't work so much for what should be a reflection on the rookie year of one of American history's beloved athletes.
 
2013-04-12 01:22:16 PM

KatjaMouse: keepitcherry: The fact that they put Jay-Z in the trailer pissed me off and this is coming from someone who's been listening to hip hop music for 20 years and making it for 8. What a way to cheapen the film. Why the fark are we using rap music in a period film about Jackie Robinson?

I think it's purely a marketing ploy to get the desired 13-35 male demographic.

I think that the only real successful use of hip hop in a period trailer in recent memory though was for The Great Gatsby. You know, selling the decadent young people partying and living in most decadent ways to a tabloid generation that's obsessed with following every move of celebrities. It works.

It doesn't work so much for what should be a reflection on the rookie year of one of American history's beloved athletes.


I think you're exactly right - but does this really even work? I can't imagine the youth even know who Jackie Robinson was or would care to. After all he was someone actually worth admiring kids today only look up to absolute pieces of shiat.
 
2013-04-12 01:28:26 PM
I'm waiting for the Doc Ellis bio-pic.
 
2013-04-12 01:28:54 PM

keepitcherry: I think you're exactly right - but does this really even work? I can't imagine the youth even know who Jackie Robinson was or would care to. After all he was someone actually worth admiring kids today only look up to absolute pieces of shiat.


The youngest generation is much more socially progressive than their elders. If there's a film that doesn't need Michael Bay asplosions and gratuitous violence with shaky cam to get their attention and feel...something...it would be a film of this ilk...regardless of the soundtrack.

/my 0.02
 
2013-04-12 01:41:51 PM
Ugh, how many of these black-guy cliche success-story cookie-cutter Denzel- style movies do we have to endure? we get it, everyone knows that white people are evil and have done heinous shiat before. enough! why can't we have a white-guy success story? why can't we have a movie about an early American who found wealth operating a large farm in the south, housing and feeding dozens of workers? or why can't we have a movie about a successful European artist and politician who unites a country and takes on many social problems? I'm just so sick of these movies.
 
2013-04-12 01:43:16 PM

whither_apophis: I'm waiting for the Doc Ellis bio-pic.


th02.deviantart.net
 
2013-04-12 01:53:51 PM

robohobo: Kinda want to see this. Anyone know if the music is period(yay), or is it hiphop like in the trailers(boo)?


From one review (have not seen the film or heard the score myself):

"The film's overriding aesthetic failure, however, can be laid at the feet of composer Mark Isham.  He saturates the film with heroic Coplandesque swells, the blare an insistent message: This Film Is Very Important.

Do we really need the music to understand that Robinson was a guy with exceptional courage?  Nope.  Two sequences near the end of the film, including the closing credits, use period songs from the '40s.  The effect is startling.  Suddenly the film acquires a level of authenticity that Isham's score had utterly failed to deliver."


Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/04/11/4174456/42-is-a-solid-hit-3-star s .html#storylink=cpy


Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/04/12/5332504/42-captures-the-tension-of-n o ble.html#storylink=cpy
 
2013-04-12 01:54:30 PM
On a side note, I really hate it when trying to cut and paste text automatically leads to a "read more here" add-on.
 
2013-04-12 01:58:32 PM

keepitcherry: I think you're exactly right - but does this really even work? I can't imagine the youth even know who Jackie Robinson was or would care to. After all he was someone actually worth admiring kids today only look up to absolute pieces of shiat.


I'm sure it might work if they inserted a slick looking trailer with hip hop music to play before G.I. Joe: Revenge (that's the name of the movie, right?). Also aside from MLK, Jr. and the peanut guy Jackie Robinson is probably one of the most covered people in Black History Month.
 
2013-04-12 02:00:59 PM

kevinatilusa: "The film's overriding aesthetic failure, however, can be laid at the feet of composer Mark Isham. He saturates the film with heroic Coplandesque swells, the blare an insistent message: This Film Is Very Important.

Do we really need the music to understand that Robinson was a guy with exceptional courage? Nope. Two sequences near the end of the film, including the closing credits, use period songs from the '40s. The effect is startling. Suddenly the film acquires a level of authenticity that Isham's score had utterly failed to deliver."


Ugh. I hate the non-period 'swells' of 'important' films. It comes off as manipulative more often than not.

However I freakin loved Marie Antoinette and it's punk soundtrack. Anyone else?
 
2013-04-12 02:02:32 PM
snarkerati.com
 
2013-04-12 02:02:38 PM

whither_apophis: I'm waiting for the Doc Ellis bio-pic.


Get high and go see "42" -- boom. Dock Ellis movie.
 
2013-04-12 02:10:56 PM

Orgasmatron138: I hope it's good, but the trailers make the movie look like every inspirational film cliche has been assembled into a script.


I'm worried about the same thing. It looks like a made for TV movie that yells out "THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MOVIE!" every 45 seconds.
 
2013-04-12 02:10:59 PM
Good to see Indiana Jones is back.

assets.nydailynews.com

/Will this one be as condescending to black folks as Lincoln?
 
2013-04-12 02:31:07 PM
Take that mr hitler.
 
2013-04-12 03:18:25 PM
"Rickey adds him to the Dodgers' Montreal farm team, then signs him to play in Ebbets Field (reconstructed via CGI)."

I believe Ebbets Field was actually filmed at Engel Stadium in Chattanooga, TN, and not reconstructed via CGI.  As a Chattanoogan, I remember all the hoopla surrounding filming there.  Anyone have more info on this?
 
2013-04-12 04:16:29 PM

AliceBToklasLives: Good to see Indiana Jones is back.



/Will this one be as condescending to black folks as Lincoln?


What was the condescending part? Not that I'm disagreeing, I was kind of drunk when I watched it so I would appreciate a recap.
 
2013-04-12 04:24:02 PM
I cannot get interested in that movie.  You know why?  The dude SOUNDS NOTHING LIKE the real Jackie Robinson.

It would be like making W and giving Dubya a british accent.
 
2013-04-12 04:25:00 PM

aglassonion: "Rickey adds him to the Dodgers' Montreal farm team, then signs him to play in Ebbets Field (reconstructed via CGI)."

I believe Ebbets Field was actually filmed at Engel Stadium in Chattanooga, TN, and not reconstructed via CGI.  As a Chattanoogan, I remember all the hoopla surrounding filming there.  Anyone have more info on this?


No specific info, but I would imagine that they used Engel Stadium's actual field with green screen/CGI to recreate the rest of Ebbet's Field (ala the old Yankee Stadium in "61*").
 
2013-04-12 05:44:41 PM

the_rhino: Ugh, how many of these black-guy cliche success-story cookie-cutter Denzel- style movies do we have to endure? we get it, everyone knows that white people are evil and have done heinous shiat before. enough! why can't we have a white-guy success story? why can't we have a movie about an early American who found wealth operating a large farm in the south, housing and feeding dozens of workers? or why can't we have a movie about a successful European artist and politician who unites a country and takes on many social problems? I'm just so sick of these movies.


I lol'd.

/Assuming this was meant to be a joke . . .
 
2013-04-12 06:58:08 PM
Thought maybe Rivera was batting in the 9th playing an NL team this afternoon...
 
2013-04-12 07:29:25 PM

The Banana Thug: AliceBToklasLives: Good to see Indiana Jones is back.

/Will this one be as condescending to black folks as Lincoln?

What was the condescending part? Not that I'm disagreeing, I was kind of drunk when I watched it so I would appreciate a recap.


Mostly the whole 'look at those amazing white folks helped the black folks' thing.  The black characters seem to be there just to admire the heroic whites.

Of course Lincoln was heroic, but there were quite a few African-Americans (and women, for that matter, white and black) who were instrumental in the success of abolitionism.  I realize the film is about Lincoln, so I'm ok with the focus, but can't they at least mention Frederick Douglass (who was in the original draft)?  I dunno, it's kinda like if 42 focused on Rickey and had Robinson sitting off the side, with a look that says "wow, that Branch Rickey is my hero.'

/sorry for the rant - just saw it last week
 
2013-04-12 07:51:15 PM
I wonder if Hollywood will ever be bold enough to do a film about Robinson's later years. . .

"Early in 1964 I wrote a Speaking Out piece for The Saturday Evening Post.A Barry Goldwater victory would insure that the GOP would be completely the white man's party.What happened at San Francisco when Senator Goldwater became the Republican standard-bearer confirmed my prediction.


I wasn't altogether caught of guard by the victory of the reactionary forces in the Republican party, but I was appalled by the tactics they used to stifle their liberal opposition.I was a special delegate to the convention through an arrangement made by the Rockefeller office. That convention was one of the most unforgettable and frightening experiences of my life. The hatred I saw was unique to me because it was hatred directed against a white man.It embodied a revulsion for all he stood for, including his enlightened attitude toward black people.


A new breed of Republicans had taken over the GOP.As I watched this steamroller operation in San Francisco, I had a better understanding of how it must have felt to be a Jew in Hitler's Germany.


The same high-handed methods had been there.


The same belief in the superiority of one religious or racial group over another was here.Liberals who fought so hard and so vainly were afraid not only of what would happen to the GOP but of what would happen to America.The Goldwaterites were afraid - afraid not to hew strictly to the line they had been spoon-fed, afraid to listen to logic and reason if it was not in their script."


http://www.framinghamdems.org/JackRob.html
 
2013-04-12 08:33:33 PM
Does Ford's character ALREADY WORK AROUND THE CLOCK!!!! in this one??
 
2013-04-12 10:40:38 PM
This movie has been out for months, but for all the big name stars, it just wasn't really that funny. There wasn't a single scene in it about baseball, either.
 
2013-04-13 01:28:04 AM

IlGreven: FirstNationalBastard: Things probably worked out for the best as far as the casting of Jackie Robinson.

I mean, using a well known actor, it always would have been "Oh, look, it's Chris Rock as Jackie Robinson!" This way, you're not taken out of the film by the guy who plays Robinson.

/kinda like how Christopher Reeve was cast as Superman.

Yeah. You leave the big name star to the 2nd-biggest part in the movie (thus, Harrison Ford as Branch Rickey).


And DC/WB wonders why their movies are crap...
 
2013-04-13 07:43:24 AM

KatjaMouse: I think that the only real successful use of hip hop in a period trailer in recent memory though was for The Great Gatsby.


Not sure about trailers, but the use of hip-hop in Django Unchained was awesome, despite that I think Rick Ross represents what's wrong with my favorite genre.

/fark Jay-Z
//Nas fan
 
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