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2013-04-12 10:15:39 AM  

macadamnut: Thank God you can always go to a NASCAR race to get recharged.


Well you used to anyway, they switched to unleaded a few years back, and Formula racing has been lead free since the mid 90's.

I think dragsters still use forms of leaded fuel though.
 
2013-04-12 10:18:18 AM  
...So kick the Jews out of Occupied Palestine!
 
2013-04-12 10:19:28 AM  

macadamnut: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Lead. As lead levels have decreased in the last 30 years so to have we seen a steady decline in violence and crime, with the largest swing being generational after the removal of lead from fuel for autos. So the reality may be that culture has nothing to do with the amount of violence we have as that has seen a steady decline, even shootings (although remaining steady as a percentage of violent crime), and that Nixon's legacy may go down as one of the great presidents, having presided over the creation of the EPA.

Thank God you can always go to a NASCAR race to get recharged.


Alas, no longer. For the past several years NASCAR has used Sunoco 260 GTX un-leaded racing fuel in all its series.
 
2013-04-12 10:23:30 AM  

Kriggerel: ...So kick the Jews out of Occupied Palestine!


Exactly!  And don't forget the Christians & Democracy too!  Their only intent is to divide the Muslims (Shia/Sunni?) and prevent Sharia law (which imam's version?)

FTA:
"We are not in favor of democracy, democracy is for Jews and Christians" he said in recent propaganda video.

"They are intended to divide Muslims, we want the implementation of Sharia [law] and for that jihad is necessary," he added.



/Oh Jihad... what aren't you an answer to?

//Is there cream in my coffee?

///NO?!?!  YA-lalalalal!  JIHAD!
 
2013-04-12 10:25:32 AM  

hdhale: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Because a nation ruled by its religious principles always does well right?

*stares at the evangelical right

In 1950 it was possible to load up with enough firearms and ammunition, purchased by mail order (without a background check) to repeat any mass murder committed in the 20 years.

Yet people didn't do it.  Back then, going to church on Sunday or synagog on Saturday was considered something you just did--it was expected and the vast majority of Americans worshiped God, put out religious displays on government property, and were not ambivalent about it.

Tell me more about how far we have progressed culturally as a nation since, given increased the increased secularization of society.


Why tell you when I can show you?
thepublicintellectual.org
I know I'm feeding the troll here, but I figured it's nice to put things into context.
Do I also need to point out that there are other countries which are far more secular than the U.S. that have lower crime rates?
 
2013-04-12 10:27:05 AM  

Joe Blowme: monoski: Joe Blowme: Luminaro: What a bunch of A-holes.  The people with farked up majority views of their religion all need to get infested with a paralyzing disease... Think how peaceful the world would be with no one angry at other people for not worshipping who they worship.

Islam is awsome

Taliban is not Islam they are an extremist faction. Try not generalize, it makes you look stupid (especially with spelling errors)

Wow, you just have no clue about islam. Know how i know you have never been to an islamic run country or read the koran?

US muslims are the most "moderate" yet " 25% of US Muslims under 30 support suicide bombings in some capacity".


I'm not supporting suicide bombing in any capacity, but growing up, the most noble sacrifice portrayed in military media was participation in the suicide mission.

So generally, the vast majority of Americans probably support suicide missions, as long as they agree with the objective.
 
2013-04-12 10:28:27 AM  

Kriggerel: ...So kick the Jews out of Occupied Palestine Land they occupied since 1500bc?


FTFY
 
2013-04-12 10:31:23 AM  

Tiber727: Why tell you when I can show you?


I was looking for that, and got pulled away, but that exactly shows it.

People only think we're more violent because of our now interconnected nature of the 24/7 news cycle and internet. You just hear about shiat that normally not even a decade ago, would have only been local or regional news.
 
2013-04-12 10:31:35 AM  

Joe Blowme: Carn: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Carn: In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.

FYI, you don't have to be an Xtian to denounce Islam.

I was being facetious.  I agree that you don't have to be a Christian to denounce Islam, you probably just have to be an idiot.

[erbsegoesmmo.files.wordpress.com image 750x600]


This is called projection.
 
2013-04-12 10:31:44 AM  

Moopy Mac: Joe Blowme: monoski: Joe Blowme: Luminaro: What a bunch of A-holes.  The people with farked up majority views of their religion all need to get infested with a paralyzing disease... Think how peaceful the world would be with no one angry at other people for not worshipping who they worship.

Islam is awsome

Taliban is not Islam they are an extremist faction. Try not generalize, it makes you look stupid (especially with spelling errors)

Wow, you just have no clue about islam. Know how i know you have never been to an islamic run country or read the koran?

US muslims are the most "moderate" yet " 25% of US Muslims under 30 support suicide bombings in some capacity".

I'm not supporting suicide bombing in any capacity, but growing up, the most noble sacrifice portrayed in military media was participation in the suicide mission.

So generally, the vast majority of Americans probably support suicide missions, as long as they agree with the objective.


Not what you are talking about, but thanks for trying to equate the 2
 
2013-04-12 10:32:51 AM  

Carn: Joe Blowme: Carn: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Carn: In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.

FYI, you don't have to be an Xtian to denounce Islam.

I was being facetious.  I agree that you don't have to be a Christian to denounce Islam, you probably just have to be an idiot.

[erbsegoesmmo.files.wordpress.com image 750x600]

This is called projection.


This is called willfully ignorant

/tolerance of evil is a crime
 
2013-04-12 10:35:06 AM  
hay guize is this the "there is no such thing as a moderate muslim" thread

/sorry my heart's not in it today
 
2013-04-12 10:37:32 AM  
I don't understand all the violence. I know they allow prayer in school. In fact I believe it is mandatory. I just don't get it. A real head scratcher.
 
Ant
2013-04-12 10:38:27 AM  

DubtodaIll: I need to get around to actually reading the Koran.  And so do these nuts.


Don't claim it's not in there until you've read it. There's nasty shiat in the bible too. Luckily, secularized Christians and Muslims ignore a lot of their respective holy books.
 
2013-04-12 10:40:53 AM  

evoke: Carn: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Carn: In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.

FYI, you don't have to be an Xtian to denounce Islam.

I was being facetious.  I agree that you don't have to be a Christian to denounce Islam, you probably just have to be an idiot.

Yeah, criticizing a stone-age religion and how it's negatively affecting billions of people sure is idiotic.


That would be Middle age actually.  If you were trying to make a point that the older a religion is, the more inferior it is, then clearly Islam is superior to Christianity.
 
2013-04-12 10:41:27 AM  

Joe Blowme: Moopy Mac: Joe Blowme: monoski: Joe Blowme: Luminaro: What a bunch of A-holes.  The people with farked up majority views of their religion all need to get infested with a paralyzing disease... Think how peaceful the world would be with no one angry at other people for not worshipping who they worship.

Islam is awsome

Taliban is not Islam they are an extremist faction. Try not generalize, it makes you look stupid (especially with spelling errors)

Wow, you just have no clue about islam. Know how i know you have never been to an islamic run country or read the koran?

US muslims are the most "moderate" yet " 25% of US Muslims under 30 support suicide bombings in some capacity".

I'm not supporting suicide bombing in any capacity, but growing up, the most noble sacrifice portrayed in military media was participation in the suicide mission.

So generally, the vast majority of Americans probably support suicide missions, as long as they agree with the objective.

Not what you are talking about, but thanks for trying to equate the 2


The Valkyrie plot to assassinate Hitler was a suicide-bomb plot. I think many people could approve of that mission.
 
2013-04-12 10:41:49 AM  

phrawgh: Carn: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Carn: In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.

FYI, you don't have to be an Xtian to denounce Islam.

I was being facetious.  I agree that you don't have to be a Christian to denounce Islam, you probably just have to be an idiot.

Go spend a couple weeks in an Islamic republic, perhaps Yemen, and report back on your experiences with everyday, good old boy, non-radical Muslims. We'll wait...


Some Muslims are bad, therefore all Muslims are bad.

Some Christians are bad, therefore all Christians are bad.
 
2013-04-12 10:42:12 AM  

phrawgh: I don't understand all the violence. I know they allow prayer in school. In fact I believe it is mandatory. I just don't get it. A real head scratcher.


It's all the kneeling. Leg cramps make them irritable.
 
Ant
2013-04-12 10:42:57 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Carn: In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.

FYI, you don't have to be an Xtian to denounce Islam.


That.

Islam sucks. Christianity sucks too, but in a slightly less violent way.

/Yes, I know about Uganda and the LRA
 
2013-04-12 10:44:57 AM  

Ant: DubtodaIll: I need to get around to actually reading the Koran.  And so do these nuts.

Don't claim it's not in there until you've read it. There's nasty shiat in the bible too. Luckily, secularized Christians and Muslims ignore a lot of their respective holy books.


But it is the inerrant word of God! If they are going to ignore large swaths of it, why bother? I'm pretty sure God's word isn't meant to be ala carte. At least the radical fundamentalists are trying to live by the owners manual.
 
2013-04-12 10:45:03 AM  

Ant: DubtodaIll: I need to get around to actually reading the Koran.  And so do these nuts.

Don't claim it's not in there until you've read it. There's nasty shiat in the bible too. Luckily, secularized Christians and Muslims ignore a lot of their respective holy books.


For some reason there seems to be a lot more secular Christians than Muslims.

You know... practically speaking.
Where are the secular, down the middle of the road, lets all get along Muslims?  It's a big religion... but Christians tend to hold the state (democracy, gov't, etc.) as a more secular institution than Muslims do with a religion over government approach as with Sharia law.
 
2013-04-12 10:45:05 AM  

Joe Blowme: Carn: Joe Blowme: Carn: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Carn: In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.

FYI, you don't have to be an Xtian to denounce Islam.

I was being facetious.  I agree that you don't have to be a Christian to denounce Islam, you probably just have to be an idiot.

[erbsegoesmmo.files.wordpress.com image 750x600]

This is called projection.

This is called willfully ignorant

/tolerance of evil is a crime


Of what am I being willfully ignorant?  Try to avoid circular reasoning, ie Islam is bad because Islam is bad.
 
2013-04-12 10:47:26 AM  

Moopy Mac: I'm not supporting suicide bombing in any capacity, but growing up, the most noble sacrifice portrayed in military media was participation in the suicide mission.

So generally, the vast majority of Americans probably support suicide missions, as long as they agree with the objective.



You may want to ask those Americans if they support civilians carrying out "suicide missions" in crowded markets and churches. You may find that their answers differ.
 
2013-04-12 10:48:11 AM  

Ant: DubtodaIll: I need to get around to actually reading the Koran.  And so do these nuts.

Don't claim it's not in there until you've read it. There's nasty shiat in the bible too. Luckily, secularized Christians and Muslims ignore a lot of their respective holy books.


Well I've read the Bible and most of the Bhagavad Gita and while they contain passages that can be easily used out of context, if you take the works as a whole the take away, for me at least, is pretty much be a good person and the Deity will like you a whole lot and bless your life etc..  Acts of violence are generally only carried out by only from direct decree from the Deity.  And I suppose if you're nutty enough to hear the Deity these days then I can be surprised when you do nutty things.
However, when you gain enough literacy to read and comprehend an entire book, and a major religious text at that, that whole "I'm gunna kill you 'cause you don't think like I do" thing kinda fades away from your personality.
 
2013-04-12 10:49:50 AM  

hdhale: In 1950 it was possible to load up with enough firearms and ammunition, purchased by mail order (without a background check) to repeat any mass murder committed in the 20 years.

Yet people didn't do it. Back then, going to church on Sunday or synagog on Saturday was considered something you just did--it was expected and the vast majority of Americans worshiped God, put out religious displays on government property, and were not ambivalent about it.


Because it was a lot more fun to blow up schools...
Andrew Kehoe...hipster ... A Tea Partier before the Tea Party was cool...
 
2013-04-12 10:50:35 AM  

Carn: If you were trying to make a point that the older a religion is, the more inferior it is, then clearly Islam is superior to Christianity.



Buddhism must really suck ass, then!

But no, only you were trying to make that point
 
2013-04-12 10:51:22 AM  

Carn: Joe Blowme: Carn: Joe Blowme: Carn: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Carn: In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.

FYI, you don't have to be an Xtian to denounce Islam.

I was being facetious.  I agree that you don't have to be a Christian to denounce Islam, you probably just have to be an idiot.

[erbsegoesmmo.files.wordpress.com image 750x600]

This is called projection.

This is called willfully ignorant

/tolerance of evil is a crime

Of what am I being willfully ignorant?  Try to avoid circular reasoning, ie Islam is bad because Islam is bad.


With you i will have to avoid all reasoning, you are being obtuse and either know it (trolling me) or believe it (dhimmi or fullblow member of the death cult)

/i know, i know, you saw on the internets right? Everything on the internet is true
 
2013-04-12 10:51:44 AM  

Tiber727: hdhale: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Because a nation ruled by its religious principles always does well right?


Why tell you when I can show you?
[thepublicintellectual.org image 707x558]
I know I'm feeding the troll here, but I figured it's nice to put things into context.
Do I also need to point out that there are other countries which are far more secular than the U.S. that have lower crime rates?


What happened in 1970 to spike the murder rate like that, and what happened at the end of the 90s to drop it so dramatically?

Actually, I think a better question is what happened after WWII to cause that massive dip?  Postwar prosperity?  Having a house in the suburbs with a car and a white picket fence suppressed the urge to blow the neighbours away?  And then when things went to shiat in the 70s, everyone went nuts again?

Given the massive wealth inequality today, can we expect the recent downward trend to sharply reverse?
 
2013-04-12 10:52:30 AM  

give me doughnuts: Carn: If you were trying to make a point that the older a religion is, the more inferior it is, then clearly Islam is superior to Christianity.


Buddhism must really suck ass, then!

But no, only you were trying to make that point


No, I wasn't.  I was pointing out that he had both mis-categorized Islam as being a stone age religion, which it isn't, but if his point were that older religions are bad, then he's shiatting on the wrong one.  Try to keep up.
 
2013-04-12 10:52:54 AM  

Dr Dreidel: The Valkyrie plot to assassinate Hitler was a suicide-bomb plot. I think many people could approve of that mission.


Uh, no it wasn't. It was a non-suicide bomb plot that the participants anticipated not only surviving, but taking control of Germany to sue for peace, as well.
 
2013-04-12 10:53:44 AM  

Carn: give me doughnuts: Carn: If you were trying to make a point that the older a religion is, the more inferior it is, then clearly Islam is superior to Christianity.


Buddhism must really suck ass, then!

But no, only you were trying to make that point

No, I wasn't.  I was pointing out that he had both mis-categorized Islam as being a stone age religion, which it isn't, but if his point were that older religions are bad, then he's shiatting on the wrong one.  Try to keep up.


It wasn't his point. Only you were trying to raise that distinction.
As you said: Try to keep up.
 
Ant
2013-04-12 10:55:05 AM  

Theeng: I must confess, I have never understood the idea that removing a facet of human culture (like religion) could bring about peace or utopia.  Humanity is flawed to it's very core, and civilization has mostly been the story of us trying desperately to succeed despite ourselves.  Religion can cause us to ignore logic and reason, but it is hardly the only thing.  Blaming the ills of the world on religion smacks of tribal thinking by itself.  Perhaps I'm missing some perspective to see what others see.

My apologies for a bit of a rant, but this has always irritated me.


Yes, human beings would be assholes to each other, and often are, even without religion; it's in our nature. Religion just gives you one more reason to hate each other. And as a bonus, it offers up ready-made justifications for your hatred of others. That, coupled with it's endorsement of belief without proof (and sometimes in spite of proof) makes it a wonderful tool for amplifying the asshole tendencies in all of us.

/If you've managed to follow the good parts of your religion, while ignoring the bad, good for you. Just know that someone else has done the exact opposite with the same holy book.
 
2013-04-12 10:55:18 AM  

Carn: In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.


Well, I'm Christian, but I don't think I've ever been accused of being wholesome.  What do I get to righteously denounce?
 
2013-04-12 10:55:54 AM  
Honestly, I'm somewhat surprised Pakistan is still more or less a coherent county.
 
Ant
2013-04-12 10:58:10 AM  

DubtodaIll: And I suppose if you're nutty enough to hear the Deity these days then I can be surprised when you do nutty things.


If you believe in a deity, how can you possibly come to the conclusion that someone who claims to be hearing from it is nutty? Do you believe or not?
 
2013-04-12 10:58:16 AM  

maddogdelta: hdhale: In 1950 it was possible to load up with enough firearms and ammunition, purchased by mail order (without a background check) to repeat any mass murder committed in the 20 years.

Yet people didn't do it. Back then, going to church on Sunday or synagog on Saturday was considered something you just did--it was expected and the vast majority of Americans worshiped God, put out religious displays on government property, and were not ambivalent about it.

Because it was a lot more fun to blow up schools...
Andrew Kehoe...hipster ... A Tea Partier before the Tea Party was cool...


I think you just ripped open the space-time continuum with an insult to a suicidal crazy murderer as BOTH a hipster AND a Tea-Partier!

I am amazed at your venom spewing!
At least today it came with an informative link.
 
2013-04-12 10:58:58 AM  

Joe Blowme: Carn: Joe Blowme: Carn: Joe Blowme: Carn: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Carn: In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.

FYI, you don't have to be an Xtian to denounce Islam.

I was being facetious.  I agree that you don't have to be a Christian to denounce Islam, you probably just have to be an idiot.

[erbsegoesmmo.files.wordpress.com image 750x600]

This is called projection.

This is called willfully ignorant

/tolerance of evil is a crime

Of what am I being willfully ignorant?  Try to avoid circular reasoning, ie Islam is bad because Islam is bad.

With you i will have to avoid all reasoning, you are being obtuse and either know it (trolling me) or believe it (dhimmi or fullblow member of the death cult)

/i know, i know, you saw on the internets right? Everything on the internet is true


I'm an atheist, and I'm not trolling nor being obtuse.  I await your well crafted logical argument as to why Islam as a whole is bad.  Keep in mind however, I've been dropping hints in this to the fact that most specious arguments supporting this conclusion can be used logically to "prove" that any religion is bad.  If some bad Muslims make the whole religion bad, then some bad Christians make all of Christianity bad.  I'm guessing the latter is your religion of choice, so perhaps a bit more scrutiny is required.
 
2013-04-12 10:59:16 AM  

Stone Meadow: Dr Dreidel: The Valkyrie plot to assassinate Hitler was a suicide-bomb plot. I think many people could approve of that mission.

Uh, no it wasn't. It was a non-suicide bomb plot that the participants anticipated not only surviving, but taking control of Germany to sue for peace, as well.


Then Hollywood lied to me.

// also, I guess I should read things rather than assume I know what I'm talking about
// anyway, back to the wall...
 
2013-04-12 11:00:20 AM  

maddogdelta: hdhale: In 1950 it was possible to load up with enough firearms and ammunition, purchased by mail order (without a background check) to repeat any mass murder committed in the 20 years.

Yet people didn't do it. Back then, going to church on Sunday or synagog on Saturday was considered something you just did--it was expected and the vast majority of Americans worshiped God, put out religious displays on government property, and were not ambivalent about it.

Because it was a lot more fun to blow up schools...
Andrew Kehoe...hipster ... A Tea Partier democrat before the Tea

Democratic  Party was cool...

ftfy
 
2013-04-12 11:01:26 AM  
Fark this pig ignorant religion. Yeah, I said it. No, not all Muslims are evil, but Islam is evil, and a Muslim can only be decent to the extent that he doesn't take his religion literally and/or seriously.

"Fundamentalist Islam is only a threat because the fundamentals of Islam are a threat." -Richard Dawkins
 
Ant
2013-04-12 11:01:30 AM  

DubtodaIll: Well I've read the Bible and most of the Bhagavad Gita and while they contain passages that can be easily used out of context


Also, by what standard do you judge these passages to be read out of context? If human beings are imperfect, why would an omnipotent deity write/dictate something that needed to be interpreted by imperfect beings?
 
2013-04-12 11:01:39 AM  

Ant: DubtodaIll: And I suppose if you're nutty enough to hear the Deity these days then I can be surprised when you do nutty things.

If you believe in a deity, how can you possibly come to the conclusion that someone who claims to be hearing from it is nutty? Do you believe or not?


It's not nuts to believe in something greater than yourself.  It's not nuts to recognize that living by the tenants of a major religion help to make you a successful individual. It is nuts to claim you actually hear that force speaking to your in your language just to you and only you can hear it.
 
2013-04-12 11:01:45 AM  

Theeng: Luminaro: What a bunch of A-holes.  The people with farked up views of their religion all need to get infested with a paralyzing disease... Think how peaceful the world would be with no one angry at other people for not worshipping who they worship.

Yup, it'd be an amazing world if the people you disagree with didn't exist want to kill you because of those disagreements.


There. Isn't that better?
 
2013-04-12 11:02:23 AM  
Now it's come to this
Like we're back in the dark ages
From the Middle East to the Middle West
It's a plague that resists all science
 
2013-04-12 11:03:44 AM  

hdhale: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Because a nation ruled by its religious principles always does well right?

*stares at the evangelical right

In 1950 it was possible to load up with enough firearms and ammunition, purchased by mail order (without a background check) to repeat any mass murder committed in the 20 years.

Yet people didn't do it.  Back then, going to church on Sunday or synagog on Saturday was considered something you just did--it was expected and the vast majority of Americans worshiped God, put out religious displays on government property, and were not ambivalent about it.

Tell me more about how far we have progressed culturally as a nation since, given increased the increased secularization of society.


Talk to me about poverty rates, wealth gaps, and school bullying in 1950 and the present before you choose your causation.
 
2013-04-12 11:05:24 AM  

Ant: /If you've managed to follow the good parts of your religion, while ignoring the bad, good for you. Just know that someone else has done the exact opposite with the same holy book.


In my opinion, even if some religious people have been guilty of waging unfair wars against other nations, it would not be very prudent to criticize religion for their incorrect and unjust actions.

Just as it would not be very prudent to criticize the concept of nationalism merely because people like Hitler exploited the nationalistic spirit of the common man, in the same manner it does not seem fair to criticize religion for any imbalanced behavior of the religious people.

From a purely Islamic perspective, I consider religion to be a source of peace because even the wars that Islam prescribes its followers to fight are for the specific purpose of securing peace and justice.

I hope this helps.

Regards,

Moiz Amjad
November 3, 2001
 
2013-04-12 11:05:51 AM  

NostroZ: At least today it came with an informative link.


Which you didn't bother reading.

And maybe someone needs a [joke] tag to get the  "I was into ____ before ___ was cool" joke.

but feel free to take my point that killing children in at school is not a particularly new invention and read it as some kind of rant.

but since you seem to want it....

I really hate people who kill children. I really hate other people who kill in the name of religion.  And those people who do both are real assholes.  I really hate them!


there you go. enough venom for you?
 
2013-04-12 11:07:14 AM  

give me doughnuts: Carn: give me doughnuts: Carn: If you were trying to make a point that the older a religion is, the more inferior it is, then clearly Islam is superior to Christianity.


Buddhism must really suck ass, then!

But no, only you were trying to make that point

No, I wasn't.  I was pointing out that he had both mis-categorized Islam as being a stone age religion, which it isn't, but if his point were that older religions are bad, then he's shiatting on the wrong one.  Try to keep up.

It wasn't his point. Only you were trying to raise that distinction.
As you said: Try to keep up.


His point was, it's a stone age religion and therefore bad.  Taken literally, that is incorrect, as I pointed out.  Taken abstractly, it is incorrect, as I pointed out.  Taken figuratively, (as in, old, archaic, backwards, etc.) it is on par with Christianity whose holy book advocates stoning people and all sorts of other wonderful acts of violence.  So, pretty much wrong for any interpretation.
 
Ant
2013-04-12 11:09:08 AM  

DubtodaIll: Ant: DubtodaIll: And I suppose if you're nutty enough to hear the Deity these days then I can be surprised when you do nutty things.

If you believe in a deity, how can you possibly come to the conclusion that someone who claims to be hearing from it is nutty? Do you believe or not?

It's not nuts to believe in something greater than yourself.  It's not nuts to recognize that living by the tenants of a major religion help to make you a successful individual. It is nuts to claim you actually hear that force speaking to your in your language just to you and only you can hear it.


I'm glad that you think that Abraham was insane when he tried to kill Issac. Am I the only one here who thinks that all the people who see this story as a positive message are freaking crazy?
 
2013-04-12 11:11:01 AM  

ciberido: Carn: In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.

Well, I'm Christian, but I don't think I've ever been accused of being wholesome.  What do I get to righteously denounce?


You can denounce the lack of Bacchanalia celebrations in modern society..
 
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