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(CNN)   This is gonna shock you, but the secularist candidate for the Pakistani parliament was killed by religious nuts   (edition.cnn.com) divider line 167
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vpb [TotalFark]
2013-04-12 08:38:45 AM
I don't see this working out the way that Little Fatty had hoped.
 
2013-04-12 08:44:56 AM
Republicans intrigued by this new strategy.
 
2013-04-12 09:02:59 AM

sgnilward: Republicans intrigued by this new strategy.


Paul Wellstone.
 
2013-04-12 09:32:39 AM
This is why we need to get God back into Pakistani politics.
 
2013-04-12 09:32:43 AM
In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.
 
2013-04-12 09:33:01 AM

2wolves: sgnilward: Republicans intrigued by this new strategy.

Paul Wellstone.


Did the RAND corp and Reverse Vampires help with that?
 
2013-04-12 09:33:43 AM
Because a nation ruled by its religious principles always does well right?

*stares at the evangelical right
 
2013-04-12 09:34:39 AM
"Candidate Fakhar Ul Islam"

Say that out loud. Sounds a little troll-y right?
 
2013-04-12 09:37:23 AM
I need to get around to actually reading the Koran.  And so do these nuts.
 
2013-04-12 09:38:24 AM
As noted in TFA itself, the Taliban has effectively declared war on the institution of democracy itself and anyone involved in it, I don't know that this was because of the secular party thing so much as that they're just targeting anyone with anything to do with elections at this point.
 
2013-04-12 09:40:29 AM

voodoomedic: "Candidate Fakhar Ul Islam"

Say that out loud. Sounds a little troll-y right?


yeah what's his fark logon?
 
2013-04-12 09:41:00 AM

Jim_Callahan: As noted in TFA itself, the Taliban has effectively declared war on the institution of democracy itself and anyone involved in it, I don't know that this was because of the secular party thing so much as that they're just targeting anyone with anything to do with elections at this point.


Agreed. This guy was simply victim number one.
 
2013-04-12 09:41:10 AM
There was only one secularist candidate?  Or is subby an idiot?
 
2013-04-12 09:41:15 AM
What a bunch of A-holes.  The people with farked up views of their religion all need to get infested with a paralyzing disease... Think how peaceful the world would be with no one angry at other people for not worshipping who they worship.
 
2013-04-12 09:41:41 AM
Not in before someone has to somehow try to tie this to Christians.
 
2013-04-12 09:41:50 AM
Only a religious nutjob can stop a religious nutjob

/seriously though, I want all religious zealots and fundamentalists to jump off the highest cliff
//you're hurting the world with your lunacy
 
2013-04-12 09:42:04 AM
If they like fire and brimstone so much, we might as well send more drones to deliver it. The sooner all these jihadi savages are dead, the sooner the rest of Pakistan and the world can have peace.
 
2013-04-12 09:44:38 AM

Luminaro: What a bunch of A-holes.  The people with farked up views of their religion all need to get infested with a paralyzing disease... Think how peaceful the world would be with no one angry at other people for not worshipping who they worship.


Yup, it'd be an amazing world if the people you disagree with didn't exist.
 
2013-04-12 09:44:44 AM
I know there is money to be made in Pakistan, but at what point does the world finally just give up on them like Best Korea? If they want to have a closed country run by fanatics, have at it. Just close the border and cease trade with them.
 
2013-04-12 09:44:48 AM

the_foo: If they like fire and brimstone so much, we might as well send more drones to deliver it. The sooner all these jihadi savages are dead, the sooner the rest of Pakistan and the world can have peace.


Because nothing says peace like a foreign nation raining death from the skies
 
2013-04-12 09:45:02 AM
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// Bhutto wept
 
2013-04-12 09:46:03 AM
Isn't Pakistan a democratic country? If so the Taliban just declared war on the government.
 
2013-04-12 09:46:11 AM

Aarontology: Because nothing says peace like a foreign nation raining death from the skies


Bringing peace to the world, 18 pounds of semtex at a time!
 
2013-04-12 09:47:51 AM

Luminaro: What a bunch of A-holes.  The people with farked up majority views of their religion all need to get infested with a paralyzing disease... Think how peaceful the world would be with no one angry at other people for not worshipping who they worship.


Islam is awsome
 
2013-04-12 09:48:59 AM

balfourk: Isn't Pakistan a democratic country? If so the Taliban just declared war on the government.


"Just"?  You haven't been following the news, have you?
 
2013-04-12 09:49:14 AM
"We are not in favor of democracy, democracy is for Jews and Christians"

So, since Abu Bakr was elected, was he a Jew or a Christian?
 
2013-04-12 09:49:39 AM

Carn: In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.


FYI, you don't have to be an Xtian to denounce Islam.
 
2013-04-12 09:50:18 AM

Dick Gozinya: I know there is money to be made in Pakistan, but at what point does the world finally just give up on them like Best Korea? If they want to have a closed country run by fanatics, have at it. Just close the border and cease trade with them.


Like they did to South Africa durring apartheid. Wonder if even that would have happened is SA was islamic.
 
2013-04-12 09:50:59 AM

Joe Blowme: Luminaro: What a bunch of A-holes.  The people with farked up majority views of their religion all need to get infested with a paralyzing disease... Think how peaceful the world would be with no one angry at other people for not worshipping who they worship.

Islam is awsome


Taliban is not Islam they are an extremist faction. Try not generalize, it makes you look stupid (especially with spelling errors)
 
2013-04-12 09:52:31 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Because a nation ruled by its religious principles always does well right?

*stares at the evangelical right


In 1950 it was possible to load up with enough firearms and ammunition, purchased by mail order (without a background check) to repeat any mass murder committed in the 20 years.

Yet people didn't do it.  Back then, going to church on Sunday or synagog on Saturday was considered something you just did--it was expected and the vast majority of Americans worshiped God, put out religious displays on government property, and were not ambivalent about it.

Tell me more about how far we have progressed culturally as a nation since, given increased the increased secularization of society.
 
2013-04-12 09:52:35 AM
As i understand it, Pakistan is acutally run by two groups: the government and the military. The government is full of whack jobs and the military has control of their nukes. And we like it that way because if the whackjobs in the government had the nukes too, they would make Lil Kim in Best Korea seem stable and well grounded by comparison.
 
2013-04-12 09:54:44 AM
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2013-04-12 09:57:46 AM

hdhale: Tell me more about how far we have progressed culturally as a nation since, given increased the increased secularization of society.


Everyone loves to blame culture and secularization for violence in the nation but the truth may be it actually came from a far more simpler thing.

Lead. As lead levels have decreased in the last 30 years so to have we seen a steady decline in violence and crime, with the largest swing being generational after the removal of lead from fuel for autos. So the reality may be that culture has nothing to do with the amount of violence we have as that has seen a steady decline, even shootings (although remaining steady as a percentage of violent crime), and that Nixon's legacy may go down as one of the great presidents, having presided over the creation of the EPA.
 
2013-04-12 10:00:55 AM
These people wipe with their bare hands and throw acid in the faces of their women.
Are you surprised?
 
2013-04-12 10:01:49 AM

monoski: Joe Blowme: Luminaro: What a bunch of A-holes.  The people with farked up majority views of their religion all need to get infested with a paralyzing disease... Think how peaceful the world would be with no one angry at other people for not worshipping who they worship.

Islam is awsome

Taliban is not Islam they are an extremist faction. Try not generalize, it makes you look stupid (especially with spelling errors)


Wow, you just have no clue about islam. Know how i know you have never been to an islamic run country or read the koran?

US muslims are the most "moderate" yet " 25% of US Muslims under 30 support suicide bombings in some capacity".
 
2013-04-12 10:01:55 AM

hdhale: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Because a nation ruled by its religious principles always does well right?

*stares at the evangelical right

In 1950 it was possible to load up with enough firearms and ammunition, purchased by mail order (without a background check) to repeat any mass murder committed in the 20 years.

Yet people didn't do it.  Back then, going to church on Sunday or synagog on Saturday was considered something you just did--it was expected and the vast majority of Americans worshiped God, put out religious displays on government property, and were not ambivalent about it.

Tell me more about how far we have progressed culturally as a nation since, given increased the increased secularization of society.


Yeah, back then people just made sure women, negroes and homos knew their place and placed their unflinching trust in the government to protect them from the red menace.

What a golden age!
 
2013-04-12 10:02:43 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Lead. As lead levels have decreased in the last 30 years so to have we seen a steady decline in violence and crime, with the largest swing being generational after the removal of lead from fuel for autos. So the reality may be that culture has nothing to do with the amount of violence we have as that has seen a steady decline, even shootings (although remaining steady as a percentage of violent crime), and that Nixon's legacy may go down as one of the great presidents, having presided over the creation of the EPA.


Thank God you can always go to a NASCAR race to get recharged.
 
2013-04-12 10:02:49 AM
Well in all fairness I'm sure there was quite a few theocratic canidates offed by Comrades Stalin and Mao.
 
2013-04-12 10:04:22 AM
I must confess, I have never understood the idea that removing a facet of human culture (like religion) could bring about peace or utopia.  Humanity is flawed to it's very core, and civilization has mostly been the story of us trying desperately to succeed despite ourselves.  Religion can cause us to ignore logic and reason, but it is hardly the only thing.  Blaming the ills of the world on religion smacks of tribal thinking by itself.  Perhaps I'm missing some perspective to see what others see.

My apologies for a bit of a rant, but this has always irritated me.
 
2013-04-12 10:04:30 AM

hdhale: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Because a nation ruled by its religious principles always does well right?

*stares at the evangelical right

In 1950 it was possible to load up with enough firearms and ammunition, purchased by mail order (without a background check) to repeat any mass murder committed in the 20 years.

Yet people didn't do it.  Back then, going to church on Sunday or synagog on Saturday was considered something you just did--it was expected and the vast majority of Americans worshiped God, put out religious displays on government property, and were not ambivalent about it.

Tell me more about how far we have progressed culturally as a nation since, given increased the increased secularization of society.


If you look at per capita stats, crime in the U.S. has been steadily dropping for the last 20 years.
 
2013-04-12 10:06:41 AM
This wasn't in South Carolina?  Now I am shocked.
 
2013-04-12 10:08:02 AM

Oldiron_79: Well in all fairness I'm sure there was quite a few theocratic canidates offed by Comrades Stalin and Mao.


I doubt it. Religious leaders? Yes, I'm sure there were lots, but candidates for political positions who wanted to create a theocratic government? Highly doubtful.
 
2013-04-12 10:08:07 AM

hdhale: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Because a nation ruled by its religious principles always does well right?

*stares at the evangelical right

In 1950 it was possible to load up with enough firearms and ammunition, purchased by mail order (without a background check) to repeat any mass murder committed in the 20 years.

Yet people didn't do it.  Back then, going to church on Sunday or synagog on Saturday was considered something you just did--it was expected and the vast majority of Americans worshiped God, put out religious displays on government property, and were not ambivalent about it.

Tell me more about how far we have progressed culturally as a nation since, given increased the increased secularization of society.


Your argument is a bit muddy.  Are you suggesting that religious belief was a factor that made people less violent?  Or that God himself protected the nation from lunatics because people were more "pious"?  Please clarify!
 
xcv
2013-04-12 10:09:22 AM
Imagine how it feels for some devout, pray-5x-daily, sharia-law-loving, apostate-killing politician to wake up today and realize he is now the most 'secularist' Pakistani politician simply by means of elimination; and therefore the next target on everybody's shiat list.
 
2013-04-12 10:10:10 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Carn: In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.

FYI, you don't have to be an Xtian to denounce Islam.


I was being facetious.  I agree that you don't have to be a Christian to denounce Islam, you probably just have to be an idiot.
 
2013-04-12 10:13:14 AM

hdhale: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Because a nation ruled by its religious principles always does well right?

*stares at the evangelical right

In 1950 it was possible to load up with enough firearms and ammunition, purchased by mail order (without a background check) to repeat any mass murder committed in the 20 years.

Yet people didn't do it.  Back then, going to church on Sunday or synagog on Saturday was considered something you just did--it was expected and the vast majority of Americans worshiped God, put out religious displays on government property, and were not ambivalent about it.

Tell me more about how far we have progressed culturally as a nation since, given increased the increased secularization of society.


We don't a have draft anymore. Yes, we have draft registration. Yes we did just enlarge the combat pool to include women. So we might just have a draft and then have a "take up the white man's burden--Jesus told us to kill more brown savages" war. But hasn't happened yet.

The scary thing is in WWI the UK raised the conscription age to 51. Looks like the Boomers pulled a fast one on our next global oil war.

/If you want to read about Japanese expansion in WWII, read about the British hiring the Japanese to take the port of Tsingtao from the Germans during WWI. That's why Tsingtao makes beer--ze Germans.
/Tsingtao was the home port for most of the German Imperial Navy that was not bottled up by the British Navy. If the Brits could take Tsingtao they could force the German ships out and sink them. But the Brits didn't have the man power for global war so they hired the Japanese. Or used over 1 million Indians. Or countless Africans.
 
2013-04-12 10:13:20 AM
The central tenet of Islam sure seems to be "death to the infidels". Religion of peace my ass.
 
2013-04-12 10:13:26 AM

Carn: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Carn: In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.

FYI, you don't have to be an Xtian to denounce Islam.

I was being facetious.  I agree that you don't have to be a Christian to denounce Islam, you probably just have to be an idiot.


Yeah, criticizing a stone-age religion and how it's negatively affecting billions of people sure is idiotic.
 
2013-04-12 10:13:53 AM

Carn: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Carn: In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.

FYI, you don't have to be an Xtian to denounce Islam.

I was being facetious.  I agree that you don't have to be a Christian to denounce Islam, you probably just have to be an idiot.


Go spend a couple weeks in an Islamic republic, perhaps Yemen, and report back on your experiences with everyday, good old boy, non-radical Muslims. We'll wait...
 
2013-04-12 10:15:00 AM

Carn: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Carn: In before wholesome Christians righteously denounce Islam.

FYI, you don't have to be an Xtian to denounce Islam.

I was being facetious.  I agree that you don't have to be a Christian to denounce Islam, you probably just have to be an idiot.


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