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(MSNBC)   Al Qaeda endorses GOP position on guns. Awkward   (maddowblog.msnbc.com) divider line 11
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2013-04-12 11:39:18 AM
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Mrbogey: Is Maddow what dumb people think smart people sound like? I mean, it's a good attempt at an impression, I will give Maddow's people that.


Well bless your little heart.
2013-04-12 11:24:10 AM
2 votes:
Proof again that you can defeat most GOP arguments by reminding them that scary Muslims would be able to take advantage.
2013-04-12 12:11:30 PM
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: Let's ask people who run certain internet servers about that, hmmm?


I don't really follow. Would you mind explaining?

If a gun manufacturer makes a gun that's defective and explodes, they're liable for that defect. Similarly, if Craftsman makes a hammer that shatters when hitting a nail, they're liable for that defect.

If someone attacks someone with a Craftsman hammer, Craftsman isn't (and shouldn't be) liable for the criminal misuse of that item. Similarly, a gun maker isn't (and shouldn't be) liable for the criminal misuse of their product.
2013-04-12 11:59:47 AM
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BitwiseShift: Gun manufacturers enjoy substantial immunity from prosecution


Yes, from the criminal misuse of their products. They remain liable for making defective products, among other things.

It's much like how Toyota isn't liable if someone gets drunk and rams a farmers market, but they  are liable if their cars catch on fire due to a defect.

I don't really see what the problem is here.
2013-04-12 11:55:03 AM
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"America is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms. You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle, without a background check, and most likely without having to show an identification card. So what are you waiting for?"

In defense of US gun policy, this statement goes beyond untrue and into cartoonishly stupid fantasy territory.  Fully automatic weapons can't be sold or bought outside of dealers and buyers with some very specific licensing, and sales are tracked pretty closely.

This is the kind of drivel spouted by idiots who've never owned a gun in their life, which apparently the political left doesn't have a monopoly on.
2013-04-12 11:38:13 AM
1 votes:
Is Maddow what dumb people think smart people sound like? I mean, it's a good attempt at an impression, I will give Maddow's people that.
2013-04-12 11:34:39 AM
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Dimensio: phenn: Altair: FTFA:  You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle, without a background check, and most likely without having to show an identification card.

Bullshiat.

It can be done without a background check. But, you do have to record your driver's license number on the bill of sale.

Transfer of any fully automatic firearm without approval of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives -- a process that itself involves substantial background investigation of the transferee -- is a federal felony punishable by up to ten years in prison.


^ THIS - Some customers at the gun store I worked at would wait almost a year to get a Class III stamp.  Sometimes, they would wait a year just to be denied.
2013-04-12 11:32:55 AM
1 votes:

phenn: Altair: FTFA:  You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle, without a background check, and most likely without having to show an identification card.

Bullshiat.

It can be done without a background check. But, you do have to record your driver's license number on the bill of sale.


Transfer of any fully automatic firearm without approval of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives -- a process that itself involves substantial background investigation of the transferee -- is a federal felony punishable by up to ten years in prison.

A member of a terrorist group claiming otherwise does not alter the law, regardless of how much gun ban advocates wish to believe the claim.
2013-04-12 11:26:41 AM
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cman: Didnt Neo-Nazi's support OWS?


Because OWS is a legislating political party. Stupid.
2013-04-12 11:26:01 AM
1 votes:

The Martian Manhandler: SilentStrider: This is a surprise?
Sometimes it seems like the only difference between the two is their choice of religions.

Also: facial hair, hats.


Those are the two most important parts of the 3 major religions anyway.

Christians/Jews/Muslims - type of beard, type of hat + amount of editing that went on to remove the nastier bits in their respective books
2013-04-12 10:24:13 AM
1 votes:
FTFA:  You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle, without a background check, and most likely without having to show an identification card.

Bullshiat.
 
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