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(Daily Mail)   Climate-friendly refrigerant is more deadly than hydrogen cyanide and will BURN YOUR FACE OFF   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 157
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2013-04-12 12:54:35 AM

Egoy3k: I have always been under the impression the the ozone layer and climate change are two completely different issues. Was I wrong?

I mean yeah sure a hole in the ozone layer lets more UV light in but it lets more out too. It's climate neutral isn't it?


They're not related in that the ozone hole doesn't cause climate change (or vice versa); but they're related in that pollutants of various sorts contribute to both.

Does that answer your question or are you merely stirring the pot? ;)
 
2013-04-12 03:01:05 AM

hardinparamedic: orbister: Oh yes indeed. Know what the standard treatment for a major HF burn is? If it gets to the bone you get immediate amputation at the next major joint.

Who told you that?

They mix calcium gluconate in a KY slurry at a ratio of 1ml CaGlu to 2ml KY and slather that on the wound every fifteen minutes. Hands get put in gloves filled with the stuff. They'll infiltrate Ca Gluconate into the tissue around the burn too with a tuberculin syringe at a dose of 0.5ml x cm3 area affected. When you get to the hospital, an anesthesiologist will put in an arterial line above the level of the injury and give you a massive dose of calcium gluconate intraarterially for the next few hours.

I've never heard you get immediate amputation.



Well, I learned something today. Interesting stuff.
 
2013-04-12 03:12:26 AM

maxheck: Going back to the original premise... I, for one, am glad that there are no liquids in my automobile that might explode in a face-melting fireball when sprayed all over the engine.


Like gasoline, engine coolant, engine oil, automatic transmission fluid, brake fluid, power steering fluid...
 
2013-04-12 03:24:31 AM

maxheck: Going back to the original premise... I, for one, am glad that there are no liquids in my automobile that might explode in a face-melting fireball when sprayed all over the engine.


Ooh, and don't forget the battery, which has sulfuric acid and can generate a well-known flame retardant, hydrogen gas.
 
2013-04-12 08:44:15 AM

Oldiron_79: palan: Cybernetic: Wiki says that when it burns, it releases hydrofluoric acid--which is truly scary stuff.

I don't think I've ever heard about a fluoride compound that isn't incredibly scary.

Look up Uranium Hexafluride.



chlorine trifluoride.


"It is, of course, extremely toxic, but that's the least of the problem. It is hypergolic with every known fuel, and so rapidly hypergolic that no ignition delay has ever been measured. It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers, not to mention asbestos, sand, and water-with which it reacts explosively. It can be kept in some of the ordinary structural metals-steel, copper, aluminium, etc.-because of the formation of a thin film of insoluble metal fluoride which protects the bulk of the metal, just as the invisible coat of oxide on aluminium keeps it from burning up in the atmosphere. If, however, this coat is melted or scrubbed off, and has no chance to reform, the operator is confronted with the problem of coping with a metal-fluorine fire. For dealing with this situation, I have always recommended a good pair of running shoes."
 
2013-04-12 08:54:16 AM
The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: maxheck: Going back to the original premise... I, for one, am glad that there are no liquids in my automobile that might explode in a face-melting fireball when sprayed all over the engine.

Ooh, and don't forget the battery, which has sulfuric acid and can generate a well-known flame retardant, hydrogen gas.


I don't think that word means what you think it is meaning
 
2013-04-12 08:54:29 AM

KyngNothing: Apparently all the really cool chemicals hate the atmosphere...


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"We haven't entirely nailed down what element it is yet, but I'll tell you this: It's a lively one, and it does NOT like the human skeleton"
 
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