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(Labspaces.net)   New study finds that if we go all steampunk on our hospital design, we can reduce nosocomial infection by 58%. And you can't deny that it'd look seriously cool   (labspaces.net) divider line 68
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2013-04-11 01:12:28 PM  
Steampunk looking cool

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2013-04-11 01:28:42 PM  
Hmmmm... Copper surfaces anywhere people will touch - meaning coating every damn thing, really - will Save Lives.  And THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!  And you're highly likely to get sick from just GOING to the hospital, which results in death tolls in the SIX FIGURES!!! Ooga-Booga!

/Brought to you by the Copper Development Association
 
2013-04-11 02:30:02 PM  
Doesnt this mean that copper door knobs/push bars and what not would also decrease the spread of germs in the real world?
 
2013-04-11 03:05:29 PM  
So, what, put rivets and gears on everything?  How's that going to help?
 
2013-04-11 03:13:33 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Steampunk looking cool

[img10.imageshack.us image 600x900]


The problem is with pics like this, you could dress her up in a burlap sack and she'd make it look good. That outfit looks retarded when you remove the girl from it.
 
2013-04-11 03:16:49 PM  
TheHumanCannonball:

The problem is with pics like this, you could dress her up in a burlap sack and she'd make it look good. That outfit looks retarded when you remove the girl from it.

I've seldom admired the lady's wardrobe as it's scattered all over the room from a frenzy of passionate undressing.   It takes some good stuff to make that a conversation topic.  Well done Steampunk would qualify.

Having said that, this study doesn't cover 'stuff that grows with copper that is not much of a problem at the moment'.
 
2013-04-11 03:18:22 PM  

TheHumanCannonball: The problem is with pics like this, you could dress her up in a burlap sack and she'd make it look good. That outfit looks retarded when you remove the girl from it.


Don't all outfits look retarded when you take it off the girl. That's why you have the girl!

Well, that's why people who design outfits have girls. I have found other uses for them.

like making da sandwich
 
2013-04-11 03:22:07 PM  

Rhypskallion: ...'stuff that grows with copper ....


Are you implying that we could start the Vulcan race from a dirty ER table?
 
2013-04-11 03:22:39 PM  
Antibacterial Copper better not be the trademark... it's like saying Wet Water.
 
2013-04-11 03:25:45 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: Antibacterial Copper better not be the trademark... it's like saying Wet Water.


actually came to ask if theres anything special about the copper.
 
2013-04-11 03:26:49 PM  
Great, we'll have thieves stealing IV poles for scrap.
 
2013-04-11 03:30:26 PM  
so do they have to be made of solid copper or is plating sufficent.
I am just thinking of ways to cut down on Jethro thefts.
 
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2013-04-11 03:38:25 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Hmmmm... Copper surfaces anywhere people will touch - meaning coating every damn thing, really - will Save Lives.  And THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!  And you're highly likely to get sick from just GOING to the hospital, which results in death tolls in the SIX FIGURES!!! Ooga-Booga!

/Brought to you by the Copper Development Association


The U.S. Department of Defense is a copper lobbyist?
 
2013-04-11 03:43:19 PM  

Slives: Rhypskallion: ...'stuff that grows with copper ....
Are you implying that we could start the Vulcan race from a dirty ER table?


No, but that's a neat idea!   My point is that the study does not explore 'what does grow in copper--and is that a potential problem?'
 
2013-04-11 03:49:44 PM  
No thanks.  Can you imagine the surcharge on the bill for Difference Engine Processing Fees?
 
2013-04-11 03:50:28 PM  
I don't know.

Too much copper could be intimidating.
No offense to steampunk fans, but it would make an OR look like Fabius Bile's lab.

Waking up to that could be traumatic.
 
2013-04-11 03:51:29 PM  
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And then, there's copper - which is the only hospital design I use.
 
2013-04-11 03:53:21 PM  

Andric: So, what, put rivets and gears on everything?  How's that going to help?


Affordable, albeit bulky, prosthetics.

www.deviantart.com

Hold on...

engineerblogs.org
 
2013-04-11 03:58:23 PM  
Silver does the same thing and it doesn't turn all green and ugly over time.
 
2013-04-11 04:01:36 PM  
You know who else is vulnerable to copper?
Metro Man!
4.bp.blogspot.com

/sorry, this movie was on TV the other day.  Wasn't as bad as i thought it would be.
 
2013-04-11 04:01:42 PM  
FTA: ###

Kellen Communications - NY


Well, at least they're upfront and honest about just making copypasta out of a gorram press release.
 
2013-04-11 04:03:09 PM  

johnson442: Silver does the same thing and it doesn't turn all green and ugly over time.


I think silver is still a little more expensive, though.
 
2013-04-11 04:04:19 PM  

johnson442: Silver does the same thing and it doesn't turn all green and ugly over time.


Well they did mention copper alloys, many of which wouldn't rust like pure copper.
 
2013-04-11 04:12:55 PM  

OceanVortex: You know who else is vulnerable to copper?
Metro Man!
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 219x323]

/sorry, this movie was on TV the other day.  Wasn't as bad as i thought it would be.


Megamind is awesome. It's like they made a movie from the story of my life.
 
2013-04-11 04:15:13 PM  

JonnyBGoode: johnson442: Silver does the same thing and it doesn't turn all green and ugly over time.

Well they did mention copper alloys, many of which wouldn't rust like pure copper.


So they need to investigate how much copper in the alloy is needed.
 
2013-04-11 04:20:49 PM  

OceanVortex: /sorry, this movie was on TV the other day. Wasn't as bad as i thought it would be.


It was actually pretty good. I liked it much better than Despicable Me.
 
2013-04-11 04:34:36 PM  
www.labspaces.net
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2013-04-11 04:43:53 PM  
ICu and what you did there.
 
2013-04-11 04:44:37 PM  
Maybe we can start a colloidal copper trend....
 
2013-04-11 04:52:51 PM  

johnson442: Silver does the same thing and it doesn't turn all green and ugly over time.



It turns black and ugly.
 
2013-04-11 05:02:42 PM  

OceanVortex: You know who else is vulnerable to copper?
Metro Man!
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 219x323]

/sorry, this movie was on TV the other day.  Wasn't as bad as i thought it would be.


i too was shocked when i watched it. not nearly so awful as it could have been.

on-topic: this is actually something that's been well known for ages, and they're just NOW thinking of it?

sheesh, the arrogance of the 'we didn't invent it so it's stupid' mindset.
 
2013-04-11 05:05:23 PM  

phaseolus: johnson442: Silver does the same thing and it doesn't turn all green and ugly over time.


It turns black and ugly.


plus the green is gorgeous
 
2013-04-11 05:15:11 PM  
If we went back to using whitewash on the walls, the incedence of staph would reduce also.

The future of medicine is in the 19th century.
 
2013-04-11 05:21:41 PM  

phaseolus: johnson442: Silver does the same thing and it doesn't turn all green and ugly over time.


It turns black and ugly.


Only if you don't touch it.  Handle silver regularly and this problem shouldn't develop.
 
2013-04-11 05:24:22 PM  
Would be nice. Hospital-acquired illness contributed to a lot of my mom's suffering in her final days.
 
2013-04-11 05:29:58 PM  
My new spa uses a copper compound for algae control. Rather nice not smelling like bleach. Jury's out on how well it works long-term.
 
2013-04-11 05:30:28 PM  
Nice, lets coat hospitals with copper.  It isn't like the price/ton has more than doubled in the past decade already...
 
2013-04-11 05:30:34 PM  
Would this be metallic copper (which would look great) or just copper-based paint, like the anti-foul coating on boats?
If the latter, it's not just anti-bacterial - it's poisonous.
 
2013-04-11 05:31:18 PM  

Andric: So, what, put rivets and gears on everything?  How's that going to help?


Just glue some gears on it and call it 'Steampunk'....
 
2013-04-11 05:33:53 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Hmmmm... Copper surfaces anywhere people will touch - meaning coating every damn thing, really - will Save Lives.  And THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!  And you're highly likely to get sick from just GOING to the hospital, which results in death tolls in the SIX FIGURES!!! Ooga-Booga!

/Brought to you by the Copper Development Association


I suppose that doctors and nurses should also not bother washing their hands because doing so only helps to serve Procter and Gamble's corporate agenda.
 
2013-04-11 05:41:54 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Steampunk looking cool


I agree that the woman is attractive but that is a horrible steam punk costume. Is she supposed to an android, or are the gears just decoration?

I am not a super steam punk geek but I imagine the purists would scoff at such a costume.

Well, they would actually say it is the best ever at first but when she shot the dork down, then they would scoff at her costume.
 
2013-04-11 05:51:11 PM  

tgambitg: Andric: So, what, put rivets and gears on everything?  How's that going to help?

Just glue some gears on it and call it 'Steampunk'....


That is more of an earworm than you would expect. I don't know whether to thank you or hate you.
 
2013-04-11 05:54:08 PM  

theorellior: OceanVortex: /sorry, this movie was on TV the other day. Wasn't as bad as i thought it would be.

It was actually pretty good. I liked it much better than Despicable Me.


Threadjack, and I don't know if I'm mixing up too many studios, but there's a Monsters vs. Aliens + MegaMind + Despicable Me "Avenger-Style Teamup Movie" just begging to be made.
 
2013-04-11 05:54:23 PM  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrofurazone

another one that kicks ass... we use Furans in aquariums as general antibiotics.

We also use Kanamycin, which if you don't get it precisely right will turn kidneys into calcium weights.

Trick is in aquariums we have absolute control over water quality.
 
2013-04-11 06:11:24 PM  
You could probably reduce HAI's 56% by not performing unnecessary hospitalizations. But where's the profit in that.
 
2013-04-11 06:27:59 PM  

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: Benevolent Misanthrope: Hmmmm... Copper surfaces anywhere people will touch - meaning coating every damn thing, really - will Save Lives.  And THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!  And you're highly likely to get sick from just GOING to the hospital, which results in death tolls in the SIX FIGURES!!! Ooga-Booga!

/Brought to you by the Copper Development Association

I suppose that doctors and nurses should also not bother washing their hands because doing so only helps to serve Procter and Gamble's corporate agenda.


1/10

They usually use foam disinfectants now.  Which, by the way, soap manufacturers are funding studies to prove are less effective than soap.  Perhaps we should tell doctors and nurses to start coating their hands in raw chicken juice because a study from the National Chicken Farmers Association says that chicken is sterile.*

*Chicken sterility measured in select samples, internal to muscle tissue, where samples have had no contact with environmental factors and have been treated to an internal temperature of 180 degrees for 10 minutes, not including organ meats.
 
2013-04-11 07:06:03 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: Benevolent Misanthrope: Hmmmm... Copper surfaces anywhere people will touch - meaning coating every damn thing, really - will Save Lives.  And THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!  And you're highly likely to get sick from just GOING to the hospital, which results in death tolls in the SIX FIGURES!!! Ooga-Booga!

/Brought to you by the Copper Development Association

I suppose that doctors and nurses should also not bother washing their hands because doing so only helps to serve Procter and Gamble's corporate agenda.

1/10

They usually use foam disinfectants now.  Which, by the way, soap manufacturers are funding studies to prove are less effective than soap.  Perhaps we should tell doctors and nurses to start coating their hands in raw chicken juice because a study from the National Chicken Farmers Association says that chicken is sterile.*

*Chicken sterility measured in select samples, internal to muscle tissue, where samples have had no contact with environmental factors and have been treated to an internal temperature of 180 degrees for 10 minutes, not including organ meats.


Your fine print is too large. Perhaps some nanotechnology could help?
 
2013-04-11 07:06:54 PM  

MrBonestripper: phaseolus: johnson442: Silver does the same thing and it doesn't turn all green and ugly over time.


It turns black and ugly.

Only if you don't touch it.  Handle silver regularly and this problem shouldn't develop.


Unless I touch it. Then it turns black and I turn green.
 
2013-04-11 07:20:55 PM  

buttery_shame_cave: OceanVortex: You know who else is vulnerable to copper?
Metro Man!
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 219x323]

/sorry, this movie was on TV the other day.  Wasn't as bad as i thought it would be.

i too was shocked when i watched it. not nearly so awful as it could have been.


Thirded. I was pleasantly surprised.
 
2013-04-11 07:34:12 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Benevolent Misanthrope: Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: Benevolent Misanthrope: Hmmmm... Copper surfaces anywhere people will touch - meaning coating every damn thing, really - will Save Lives.  And THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!  And you're highly likely to get sick from just GOING to the hospital, which results in death tolls in the SIX FIGURES!!! Ooga-Booga!

/Brought to you by the Copper Development Association

I suppose that doctors and nurses should also not bother washing their hands because doing so only helps to serve Procter and Gamble's corporate agenda.

1/10

They usually use foam disinfectants now.  Which, by the way, soap manufacturers are funding studies to prove are less effective than soap.  Perhaps we should tell doctors and nurses to start coating their hands in raw chicken juice because a study from the National Chicken Farmers Association says that chicken is sterile.*

*Chicken sterility measured in select samples, internal to muscle tissue, where samples have had no contact with environmental factors and have been treated to an internal temperature of 180 degrees for 10 minutes, not including organ meats.

Your fine print is too large. Perhaps some nanotechnology could help?


Sorry. I do my best with the tools at hand.
 
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