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2013-04-11 12:16:05 PM
Diners & bagel shops in NJ: Serious Business.
 
2013-04-11 12:18:39 PM
And that's just the customers.
 
2013-04-11 12:21:27 PM
Rule #1: DON'T TRY TO HIRE HITMEN.

There are no hitmen available to strangers. Only mob bosses, military officials, and close friends have access. If you try to hire a hitman, it will be a cop. Every time.
 
2013-04-11 12:31:36 PM
This is why I go to the Meadowlands to the Candlewyck and avoid the Tick Tock.
 
2013-04-11 12:32:27 PM
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2013-04-11 12:43:33 PM
$20,000 to kill, rob and torture his uncle.

And in THAT order, dammit!
 
2013-04-11 01:21:07 PM

doglover: Rule #1: DON'T TRY TO HIRE HITMEN.

There are no hitmen available to strangers. Only mob bosses, military officials, and close friends have access. If you try to hire a hitman, it will be a cop. Every time.


Why do people think they can do this? I mean, in what world is "hitman" a day-labor job?
 
2013-04-11 01:25:04 PM

JerseyTim: This is why I go to the Meadowlands to the Candlewyck and avoid the Tick Tock.


Coach House all the way. At least there you can be comfortable that your hitmen are who they say they are, and not rats.
 
2013-04-11 01:26:29 PM
Have you been to a diner in NJ, subby? Try the Obvious tag.
 
2013-04-11 01:26:43 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: doglover: Rule #1: DON'T TRY TO HIRE HITMEN.

There are no hitmen available to strangers. Only mob bosses, military officials, and close friends have access. If you try to hire a hitman, it will be a cop. Every time.

Why do people think they can do this? I mean, in what world is "hitman" a day-labor job?


WHAT? If you are trying to tell me that such a bastion of journalistic integrity as the classifed ads in the back of Soldier of Fortune , is LYING to me, well sir, I have no words for you other than "good Day!"
 
2013-04-11 01:28:11 PM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net

What's all this, now?
 
2013-04-11 01:29:48 PM

ThatGuyGreg: Diners & bagel shops in NJ: Serious Business.


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Obviously never ran such an establishment in Jersey.  You'd be surprised just how much cash you can skim from such a business.
 
2013-04-11 01:33:52 PM

LineNoise: JerseyTim: This is why I go to the Meadowlands to the Candlewyck and avoid the Tick Tock.

Coach House all the way. At least there you can be comfortable that your hitmen are who they say they are, and not rats.


Ha! The Coach House in North Bergen is the first place I drove by myself after I got my license.
 
2013-04-11 01:34:03 PM

ThatGuyGreg: Diners & bagel shops in NJ: Serious Business.


The Tick Tock Diner is probably the most famous diner in NJ, a state known for its diners. It's a complete dive (but totally delicious) and is incredibly popular.

I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if this diner in particular makes over a million a year.
 
2013-04-11 01:34:24 PM
Damn Greeks.
 
2013-04-11 01:35:55 PM

Lollipop165: ThatGuyGreg: Diners & bagel shops in NJ: Serious Business.

The Tick Tock Diner is probably the most famous diner in NJ, a state known for its diners. It's a complete dive (but totally delicious) and is incredibly popular.

I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if this diner in particular makes over a million a year.


That place is packed at lunchtime.  Sometimes there's just no explaining New Jersey.
 
2013-04-11 01:36:44 PM

Lollipop165: ThatGuyGreg: Diners & bagel shops in NJ: Serious Business.

The Tick Tock Diner is probably the most famous diner in NJ, a state known for its diners. It's a complete dive (but totally delicious) and is incredibly popular.

I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if this diner in particular makes over a million a year.


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Million in profit, their gross revenue is probably quite a bit more than that.   I'll bet you a lot of the cash sales get skimmed....no taxes paid.
 
2013-04-11 01:39:10 PM
Not enough balls to do the job himself?
he's Greek.
 
2013-04-11 01:39:48 PM
I was a fan of the Crystal Diner in Lawrenceville when I was in college. Some of the best mozzarella sticks I've ever eaten.
 
2013-04-11 01:40:33 PM

Fissile: Lollipop165: ThatGuyGreg: Diners & bagel shops in NJ: Serious Business.

The Tick Tock Diner is probably the most famous diner in NJ, a state known for its diners. It's a complete dive (but totally delicious) and is incredibly popular.

I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if this diner in particular makes over a million a year.

================

Million in profit, their gross revenue is probably quite a bit more than that.   I'll bet you a lot of the cash sales get skimmed....no taxes paid.


Oh absolutely.

Marcus Aurelius: Lollipop165: ThatGuyGreg: Diners & bagel shops in NJ: Serious Business.

The Tick Tock Diner is probably the most famous diner in NJ, a state known for its diners. It's a complete dive (but totally delicious) and is incredibly popular.

I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if this diner in particular makes over a million a year.

That place is packed at lunchtime.  Sometimes there's just no explaining New Jersey.


Dude, diners are the ONLY reason I survived my teen years in New Jersey. Particularly back in the days when they allowed smoking. It's such a part of life in NJ, people from out of town just don't get it. I was trying to explain the appeal of diners to a girl from Iowa and she said "So... like a Denny's?"  and I just about wanted to smack her. Took her to her first "real" diner and she was in awe - "This is open 24 HOURS? This menu us huge! This food is so good! These prices are so low!" and she's never looked back.

/NYC is the only other place with decent diners
 
2013-04-11 01:42:59 PM

Lollipop165: The Tick Tock Diner is probably the most famous diner in NJ, a state known for its diners. It's a complete dive (but totally delicious) and is incredibly popular.


The Tick Tock Diner is no dive.

The Bendix Diner is a dive.
 
2013-04-11 01:43:31 PM
I knew a guy (Greek, naturally) whose parents had owned the Red Oak Diner in Fort Lee while he was growing up. Open 24/7/365. Because they never closed, they never had to lock the doors and over the years they misplaced the keys. When his parents finally sold the place, they had to have a locksmith change the locks.

/CSB
 
2013-04-11 01:47:37 PM

Lollipop165: I was trying to explain the appeal of diners to a girl from Iowa California and she said "So... like a Denny's?"


I had this exact conversation with my neighbor yesterday while we were figuring out where to go for lunch.
 
2013-04-11 01:48:54 PM
By the way, a pox upon the person who redesigned the Suburban Diner. What an ugly mess.
 
2013-04-11 01:52:34 PM
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Olgas, for the win.
 
2013-04-11 01:55:21 PM
I just assumed this was business as usual when dealing with Jersey diners.
 
2013-04-11 02:04:29 PM

JerseyTim: Lollipop165: The Tick Tock Diner is probably the most famous diner in NJ, a state known for its diners. It's a complete dive (but totally delicious) and is incredibly popular.

The Tick Tock Diner is no dive.

The Bendix Diner is a dive.


Love the Bendix too.

When I was a teen we had a book listing all of the diners in NJ. We'd smoke pot, do a Weird NJ trip, and drive to a new diner for dinner every few days. That was like, our big activity. There are something like 500+ diners in NJ. We hit up approx half of them. Then I finally got the hell out of NJ :-)
 
2013-04-11 02:12:41 PM

fireclown: [farm3.staticflickr.com image 640x391]
Olgas, for the win.


I was bummed to find out that it's gone. I was up there visiting friends a few months ago, and it's boarded up and decaying.
 
2013-04-11 02:18:27 PM

Lollipop165: Fissile: Lollipop165: ThatGuyGreg: Diners & bagel shops in NJ: Serious Business.

The Tick Tock Diner is probably the most famous diner in NJ, a state known for its diners. It's a complete dive (but totally delicious) and is incredibly popular.

I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if this diner in particular makes over a million a year.

================

Million in profit, their gross revenue is probably quite a bit more than that.   I'll bet you a lot of the cash sales get skimmed....no taxes paid.

Oh absolutely.
Marcus Aurelius: Lollipop165: ThatGuyGreg: Diners & bagel shops in NJ: Serious Business.

The Tick Tock Diner is probably the most famous diner in NJ, a state known for its diners. It's a complete dive (but totally delicious) and is incredibly popular.

I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if this diner in particular makes over a million a year.

That place is packed at lunchtime.  Sometimes there's just no explaining New Jersey.

Dude, diners are the ONLY reason I survived my teen years in New Jersey. Particularly back in the days when they allowed smoking. It's such a part of life in NJ, people from out of town just don't get it. I was trying to explain the appeal of diners to a girl from Iowa and she said "So... like a Denny's?"  and I just about wanted to smack her. Took her to her first "real" diner and she was in awe - "This is open 24 HOURS? This menu us huge! This food is so good! These prices are so low!" and she's never looked back.

/NYC is the only other place with decent diners


Chicago has them too, but the call them "pancake houses" which is Chicago code for "place open 24 hours run by a Russian or greek couple who will stuff you full of delicious food, throw in desert, and still charge you less than $10/head"

/miss the Golden Nugget
//and The Omega
 
2013-04-11 02:20:04 PM

Cybernetic: fireclown: [farm3.staticflickr.com image 640x391]
Olgas, for the win.

I was bummed to find out that it's gone. I was up there visiting friends a few months ago, and it's boarded up and decaying.


It's the end of an age, it is.  It was just up the road from my sisters place, when she lived in Jersey.  I didn't know it had gone belly up until I went looking for that picture.
 
2013-04-11 02:26:10 PM

Lollipop165: Fissile: Lollipop165: ThatGuyGreg: Diners & bagel shops in NJ: Serious Business.

The Tick Tock Diner is probably the most famous diner in NJ, a state known for its diners. It's a complete dive (but totally delicious) and is incredibly popular.

I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if this diner in particular makes over a million a year.

================

Million in profit, their gross revenue is probably quite a bit more than that.   I'll bet you a lot of the cash sales get skimmed....no taxes paid.

Oh absolutely.
Marcus Aurelius: Lollipop165: ThatGuyGreg: Diners & bagel shops in NJ: Serious Business.

The Tick Tock Diner is probably the most famous diner in NJ, a state known for its diners. It's a complete dive (but totally delicious) and is incredibly popular.

I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if this diner in particular makes over a million a year.

That place is packed at lunchtime.  Sometimes there's just no explaining New Jersey.

Dude, diners are the ONLY reason I survived my teen years in New Jersey. Particularly back in the days when they allowed smoking. It's such a part of life in NJ, people from out of town just don't get it. I was trying to explain the appeal of diners to a girl from Iowa and she said "So... like a Denny's?"  and I just about wanted to smack her. Took her to her first "real" diner and she was in awe - "This is open 24 HOURS? This menu us huge! This food is so good! These prices are so low!" and she's never looked back.

/NYC is the only other place with decent diners


She was from the wrong places in Iowa then (or is just very young). Every small town of 5000 people or so has / had a dinner, most of them with the counter and everything. Sadly, they have been heavily dieing off in the last decade, as rural Iowa slowly fades away. Its really hard to find a good open faced turkey or beef sandwich anymore, or a heavenly dinner burger.
 
2013-04-11 02:30:47 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Lollipop165: ThatGuyGreg: Diners & bagel shops in NJ: Serious Business.

The Tick Tock Diner is probably the most famous diner in NJ, a state known for its diners. It's a complete dive (but totally delicious) and is incredibly popular.

I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if this diner in particular makes over a million a year.

That place is packed at lunchtime.  Sometimes there's just no explaining New Jersey.


Is that a knock against:

     a. The Tick-Tock
     b. diners in general
     c. New Jersey
     d. all of the above

If it's "a", fine, it's not as good as it once was.  If it's "b" I have no use for you.  If it's "c", I can't argue with you there... NJ is unique.
 
2013-04-11 02:31:14 PM
"Spyropoulos' home was searched and authorities discovered handguns, a shotgun and an assault-style rifle"


He's an AR-15 owner. CLEARLY just a responsible citizen exercising his second amendment rights....

t2.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-11 02:34:12 PM
Something about this line:

""He's a good working man, a good family man," said Frank Corradino, who's lived next door for about a decade. "I never saw anything strange. "

...makes me think that the guy could have looked for the hitman a bit closer to home.

"You'll like this guy, he's a goodfella."
 
2013-04-11 03:06:42 PM
Has it been featured on Diners, Drive ins and Dives hmm??

"The owner couldn't be here today, even though he's out on bail, he's not off the hook,
he may be takin a ride out of flavortown." "His case is soo money."
 
2013-04-11 03:39:27 PM

Everydayiblasphorme: Has it been featured on Diners, Drive ins and Dives hmm??

"The owner couldn't be here today, even though he's out on bail, he's not off the hook,
he may be takin a ride out of flavortown." "His case is soo money."


Yup, they were on Triple D. As soon as I saw the name, I recognized it and wondered if it was the one Greek-family run place where they all stood around talking about how great it is to be a family in business and working together. It wasn't that one, but I still remembered the segment when I looked it up on You Tube. This is the place with the "disco fries" and "cajun shrimp" with the English dude doing the cooking, and sure enough, George (the guy who tried to hire a hitman) was in the segment. What an idiot. He had a nice life, married into it, and just had to have more.
 
2013-04-11 03:40:55 PM
The Tick-Tock in NYC has always been great. Always open, good food, moderate prices (for NYC), average service, just an all-around decent place to meet for breakfast, or anything, anytime.
 
2013-04-11 03:52:10 PM
EAT HEAVY


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2013-04-11 03:53:31 PM

Hector Remarkable: The Tick-Tock in NYC has always been great. Always open, good food, moderate prices (for NYC), average service, just an all-around decent place to meet for breakfast, or anything, anytime.


Yeah, but it was the New Jersey family that ordered the takedown.  The Tick Tock in Clifton is pretty awesome too, BTW...
 
2013-04-11 04:48:45 PM

Smoky Dragon Dish: Hector Remarkable: The Tick-Tock in NYC has always been great. Always open, good food, moderate prices (for NYC), average service, just an all-around decent place to meet for breakfast, or anything, anytime.

Yeah, but it was the New Jersey family that ordered the takedown.  The Tick Tock in Clifton is pretty awesome too, BTW...


The same guys run the one in Manhattan; right next to Penn and attached to the New Yorker Hotel. Good place to go after seeing a late-night movie across the street.
 
2013-04-11 05:57:24 PM

SheltemDragon: Lollipop165: Fissile: Lollipop165: ThatGuyGreg: Diners & bagel shops in NJ: Serious Business.

The Tick Tock Diner is probably the most famous diner in NJ, a state known for its diners. It's a complete dive (but totally delicious) and is incredibly popular.

I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if this diner in particular makes over a million a year.

================

Million in profit, their gross revenue is probably quite a bit more than that.   I'll bet you a lot of the cash sales get skimmed....no taxes paid.

Oh absolutely.
Marcus Aurelius: Lollipop165: ThatGuyGreg: Diners & bagel shops in NJ: Serious Business.

The Tick Tock Diner is probably the most famous diner in NJ, a state known for its diners. It's a complete dive (but totally delicious) and is incredibly popular.

I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if this diner in particular makes over a million a year.

That place is packed at lunchtime.  Sometimes there's just no explaining New Jersey.

Dude, diners are the ONLY reason I survived my teen years in New Jersey. Particularly back in the days when they allowed smoking. It's such a part of life in NJ, people from out of town just don't get it. I was trying to explain the appeal of diners to a girl from Iowa and she said "So... like a Denny's?"  and I just about wanted to smack her. Took her to her first "real" diner and she was in awe - "This is open 24 HOURS? This menu us huge! This food is so good! These prices are so low!" and she's never looked back.

/NYC is the only other place with decent diners

She was from the wrong places in Iowa then (or is just very young). Every small town of 5000 people or so has / had a dinner, most of them with the counter and everything. Sadly, they have been heavily dieing off in the last decade, as rural Iowa slowly fades away. Its really hard to find a good open faced turkey or beef sandwich anymore, or a heavenly dinner burger.


Uh, no. Middle American diners serve good, truckstop food. The menu will be 4-6 pages, and the only nod to ethnic food may be burritos or spaghetti. A true Joisy (or Lawn Gisland) diner will have menu which bears the same relation to its middle American counterpart as the Manhattan NY phone book does to the one from Manhattan, KS. In addition to the middle-America fare above, you'll find:
Rib-eye steak
Prime rib (may only be available during dinner hours
Seafood
Knishes
Stir fry
Chow Mein
Egg rolls
Spaghetti
Lasagna
Any Greek dish you can imagine
Burritos
Pies, cakes, baked Alaska
Any breakfast item your heart desires (including bagels with lox, blintzes and blinis).

And that's scratching the surface. Having only experienced the mid-west variety, our kids never understood why their parents always went on about NY style diners, until we took them to one on a trip back east. They were flabbergasted.
 
2013-04-11 09:00:56 PM
Cheeburger, cheeburger.
no fry, cheeps
no coke, petsi
 
2013-04-12 06:03:55 AM
The Greek wanted the hitman to hide in a giant pita.
 
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