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(Reuters)   Not content with keeping snowstorms just a winter thing and tornadoes a summer thing, the Midwest is getting both at the same time. EVERYBODY PANIC   (reuters.com) divider line 75
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2013-04-11 10:57:04 AM
Yeah the weather's been a little weird. Even for the Midwest.
 
2013-04-11 11:18:38 AM
SNOWNADO!
 
2013-04-11 11:45:09 AM
Hate to tell you this subby, but tornado seasons are spring and fall
.
 
2013-04-11 12:02:23 PM
Thanks Obama.
 
2013-04-11 12:02:39 PM
Don't worry, everyone. Climate change totally isn't a thing. The GOP told me so, so this kind of stuff just can't be happening. QED.
 
2013-04-11 12:02:59 PM

naughtyrev: SNOWNADO!


Next on SyFy...
 
2013-04-11 12:03:03 PM
Cripes, it sounds like something Laura Ingalls Wilder wrote about. Some of those storms read scarier than even the clown rape episode.
 
2013-04-11 12:03:26 PM
Fark it, I'm not getting out of bed.  I know what's next: LOCUSTS!
 
2013-04-11 12:03:32 PM
Tornsnowdo?
 
2013-04-11 12:03:34 PM

naughtyrev: SNOWNADO!


Dammit!

/Came here to say that.
 
2013-04-11 12:03:57 PM
I've been trying to go on a trip upstate since October.  The first weekend I scheduled was when Sandy hit, the second was Nemo, and now there is a tornado warning in the area.

It's my fault.
 
2013-04-11 12:03:58 PM
I'm in between the snow and the tornadoes. We're getting flood warnings here.
 
2013-04-11 12:04:03 PM

LabGrrl: naughtyrev: SNOWNADO!

Next on SyFy...



Too late.

www.portlandmercury.com
 
2013-04-11 12:04:18 PM
media.syracuse.com

SNOWNADO!
 
2013-04-11 12:04:45 PM
 
2013-04-11 12:06:52 PM
Yeah so much for enjoying April.

/shakes tiny fist at sky
 
2013-04-11 12:07:31 PM

naughtyrev: SNOWNADO!


Wait wait...can I play?

Blizzicane!
 
2013-04-11 12:07:57 PM

Pitabred: Don't worry, everyone. Climate change totally isn't a thing. The GOP told me so, so this kind of stuff just can't be happening. QED.


Haven't you heard? Their talking point has evolved. Of course climate change exists - it always has - but it is in no way caused by any activities of mankind.
 
2013-04-11 12:07:59 PM
No, it's just a new season called sprin-ter or w-ing depending on how you look at it. Like the new month of June-uary that we have here in the Kootenays. Which applies to the +5 celcius in mid winter and the several feet of snow we seem to get every late spring.....
 
2013-04-11 12:08:48 PM
It was 70 Monday, cold thunderstorms the past few days, and might snow tomorrow night.

Goddamnit, Chicago. I should've stayed in California another year.
 
2013-04-11 12:08:49 PM

Pitabred: Don't worry, everyone. Climate change totally isn't a thing. The GOP told me so, so this kind of stuff just can't be happening. QED.


Spring tornadoes in the Midwest aren't climate -- they're seasonal weather.

"Spring storms unleashed heavy snow, rain and high winds, including tornadoes " Rapid (on the timescale of hours to days) temperature changes bring with them high winds. High winds bring with them tornadoes.

Without tornadoes, the Midwest would be rapidly overrun by trailer parks.
 
2013-04-11 12:09:04 PM

naughtyrev: SNOWNADO!


Done in two.
 
2013-04-11 12:09:07 PM

fruitloop: naughtyrev: SNOWNADO!

Wait wait...can I play?

Blizzicane!


Look out! Monsoonalanche!
 
2013-04-11 12:09:10 PM

Stoj: Yeah so much for enjoying April.

/shakes tiny fist at sky


shiat, it's beautiful where I'm at except everything's covered in a thick layer of yellow goop.

/my red truck is suddenly orange
 
2013-04-11 12:10:55 PM
Okay, so, I'm confident that this means either that it's the end of the world, or global warming is real.

Since I have yet to see the dead rise and follow Loki on a quest to destroy Ragnarok, I'm assuming it's Global Warming.
 
2013-04-11 12:11:23 PM

This text is now purple: Pitabred: Don't worry, everyone. Climate change totally isn't a thing. The GOP told me so, so this kind of stuff just can't be happening. QED.

Spring tornadoes in the Midwest aren't climate -- they're seasonal weather.

"Spring storms unleashed heavy snow, rain and high winds, including tornadoes " Rapid (on the timescale of hours to days) temperature changes bring with them high winds. High winds bring with them tornadoes.

Without tornadoes, the Midwest would be rapidly overrun by trailer parks.


It does seem a little unusual for any place to get tornadoes and snow in a single 24-hour period, though.
 
2013-04-11 12:11:37 PM
Figured this was going to happen this year. Last year I was golfing in February.
 
2013-04-11 12:11:46 PM
This has been one of the most depressing winters I've experienced. There's been snow on the ground and temps below freezing for 6 months now. Of course, I'll be graduated and gone by the time the ice gets off the lake.
 
2013-04-11 12:12:52 PM
 
2013-04-11 12:13:12 PM
Snow in the early spring! *gasp*
Storms in the early spring! *gasp*

Must be drastic climate change (I think they call them "seasons")
 
2013-04-11 12:13:35 PM

fruitloop: naughtyrev: SNOWNADO!

Wait wait...can I play?

Blizzicane!


Those have also happened.
 
2013-04-11 12:15:32 PM
We mid-westerners are innovators.
 
2013-04-11 12:16:03 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Stoj: Yeah so much for enjoying April.

/shakes tiny fist at sky

shiat, it's beautiful where I'm at except everything's covered in a thick layer of yellow goop.

/my red truck is suddenly orange


Past two days in downtown Chicago, the water has been coming at you sideways.  Doesn't help that my office is right by the lake.  I'm waiting to be hit by a flying fish.
 
2013-04-11 12:18:37 PM

New Age Redneck: No, it's just a new season called sprin-ter or w-ing depending on how you look at it. Like the new month of June-uary that we have here in the Kootenays. Which applies to the +5 celcius in mid winter and the several feet of snow we seem to get every late spring.....


Lousy Smarch weather.
 
2013-04-11 12:19:38 PM

wxboy: It does seem a little unusual for any place to get tornadoes and snow in a single 24-hour period, though.


Why? With a user name "WX" in it, you should know how cold fronts work.
hell...i'm surprised it doesn't happen more often
 
2013-04-11 12:19:52 PM
Snow in April isn't a new thing you know.....
 
2013-04-11 12:21:51 PM
Meanwhile in Chile...

LAVALANCHE!

img845.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-11 12:21:55 PM

Stoj: CapeFearCadaver: Stoj: Yeah so much for enjoying April.

/shakes tiny fist at sky

shiat, it's beautiful where I'm at except everything's covered in a thick layer of yellow goop.

/my red truck is suddenly orange

Past two days in downtown Chicago, the water has been coming at you sideways.  Doesn't help that my office is right by the lake.  I'm waiting to be hit by a flying fish.


www.vaguebuttrue.com
He got lost trying to find you... didn't make it.
 
2013-04-11 12:22:02 PM
Panic is for the weak. I just used gloves, chainsaw, salt, and shovel and salt  in that order. Then, bacon and beer.

I pity my trees. Poor things.
 
2013-04-11 12:25:34 PM

UnrepentantApostate: Fark it, I'm not getting out of bed.  I know what's next: LOCUSTS!


3.bp.blogspot.com

Only if you live on the east coast.....
/yep, it's that time again
 
2013-04-11 12:27:02 PM
Well, hello global warming.  It is so nice to meet you.
 
2013-04-11 12:30:12 PM

airplayne: Well, hello global warming.  It is so nice to meet you.


I wish we had some of that global warming stuff. It's 32 degrees here.

/ BU DU CH
 
2013-04-11 12:32:12 PM
This is why we don't plant 'maters in Arkansas until after Tax Day.
 
2013-04-11 12:34:29 PM

Stoj: CapeFearCadaver: Stoj: Yeah so much for enjoying April.

/shakes tiny fist at sky

shiat, it's beautiful where I'm at except everything's covered in a thick layer of yellow goop.

/my red truck is suddenly orange

Past two days in downtown Chicago, the water has been coming at you sideways.  Doesn't help that my office is right by the lake.  I'm waiting to be hit by a flying fish.


Seriously, this sucks - my umbrella was useless.
 
2013-04-11 12:35:15 PM

mr lawson: wxboy: It does seem a little unusual for any place to get tornadoes and snow in a single 24-hour period, though.

Why? With a user name "WX" in it, you should know how cold fronts work.
hell...i'm surprised it doesn't happen more often


Conditions that favor tornadoes don't often occur in front of cold fronts behind which are conditions which favor snow.  Usually there's at least a buffer of a few days.  In Colorado, they got a couple tornadoes from this storm, followed within 12 hours by 6" of snow.  That's not normal.  Typically if it's cold enough to be snowing behind a cold front it's not warm enough in front of it to support tornadic storms, especially ones capable of significant damage.

It's unusual, but not extremely rare.  All in all, it appears very similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Oak_Lawn_tornado_outbreak
 
2013-04-11 12:35:19 PM

dryknife: This is why we don't plant 'maters in Arkansas until after Tax Day.


But when do you mate planters?
 
2013-04-11 12:39:24 PM

UnrepentantApostate: Fark it, I'm not getting out of bed.  I know what's next: LOCUSTS!


Nope, what's next is Mothpocolipse 2: Electric Boogaloo.

They all migrate back from Mexico around mid-April to early May. Last migration, during last October, 40 of them got into my apartment. By the end of day two, I was going all Samuel L Jackson on the moths. " I am sick and tired of all of these mother farking moths; in this mother farking apartment!".

/ there's literally swarms of moths
 
2013-04-11 12:41:18 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Stoj: CapeFearCadaver: Stoj: Yeah so much for enjoying April.

/shakes tiny fist at sky

shiat, it's beautiful where I'm at except everything's covered in a thick layer of yellow goop.

/my red truck is suddenly orange

Past two days in downtown Chicago, the water has been coming at you sideways.  Doesn't help that my office is right by the lake.  I'm waiting to be hit by a flying fish.

[www.vaguebuttrue.com image 318x241]
He got lost trying to find you... didn't make it.


Noooo! not Phil.
 
2013-04-11 12:42:30 PM
Meh... Just a typical spring time in the Great Plains.
 
2013-04-11 12:44:09 PM

LabGrrl: naughtyrev: SNOWNADO!

Next on SyFy...


Good job you just gave them an idea dick!
 
2013-04-11 12:51:55 PM
wxboy:

It does seem a little unusual for any place to get tornadoes and snow in a single 24-hour period, though.

You're not really familiar with how this weather thing works, are you? Most spring tornados are caused by a steep temperature gradiant when there is atmospheric instability present. Getting snow on the back side of a springtime tornadic squall line is not common, but it also isn't unusual. We're expecting a 50 degree drop in temps here tonight after the front passes us. This isn't climate change, it's weather.
 
2013-04-11 12:54:52 PM

naughtyrev: Stoj: CapeFearCadaver: Stoj: Yeah so much for enjoying April.

/shakes tiny fist at sky

shiat, it's beautiful where I'm at except everything's covered in a thick layer of yellow goop.

/my red truck is suddenly orange

Past two days in downtown Chicago, the water has been coming at you sideways.  Doesn't help that my office is right by the lake.  I'm waiting to be hit by a flying fish.

Seriously, this sucks - my umbrella was useless.


It's best because we had a snowless December, a mostly snowless January, and just a little snow most of February. And since like the last week of February, it's been six solid weeks of snow, sleet, freezing rain, sideways rain, regular rain, and that shiatty mist rain that you don't even know is there until its soaking through your socks.
 
2013-04-11 12:55:24 PM

snark puppet: wxboy:

It does seem a little unusual for any place to get tornadoes and snow in a single 24-hour period, though.

You're not really familiar with how this weather thing works, are you? Most spring tornados are caused by a steep temperature gradiant when there is atmospheric instability present. Getting snow on the back side of a springtime tornadic squall line is not common, but it also isn't unusual. We're expecting a 50 degree drop in temps here tonight after the front passes us. This isn't climate change, it's weather.


I already explained that this is unusual but not unprecedented.
 
2013-04-11 12:56:33 PM

Pitabred: Don't worry, everyone. Climate change totally isn't a thing. The GOP told me so, so this kind of stuff just can't be happening. QED.


Yep.
 
2013-04-11 01:12:07 PM
I'm in St Louis, less than 3 miles south of where the tornadoes touched down. Someone upthread already said it, but I'll say it again: Weird weather, even for the Midwest...
 
2013-04-11 01:13:05 PM

DarwiOdrade: Pitabred: Don't worry, everyone. Climate change totally isn't a thing. The GOP told me so, so this kind of stuff just can't be happening. QED.

Haven't you heard? Their talking point has evolved. Of course climate change exists - it always has - but it is in no way caused by any activities of mankind.


You guys might want to try arguing this in a thread that doesn't consist of common weather conditions in the midwest. Just because this doesn't happen "all the time" does not mean it "never happens".

/midwest weather has always been a bit schizophrenic in spring/fall.
 
2013-04-11 01:16:58 PM

give me doughnuts: LabGrrl: naughtyrev: SNOWNADO!

Next on SyFy...


Too late.

[www.portlandmercury.com image 238x307]



That was a horrible, horrible "movie".

/why I keep watching those goddamn SyFy "movies" I will never know
 
2013-04-11 01:22:34 PM

cuzsis: DarwiOdrade: Pitabred: Don't worry, everyone. Climate change totally isn't a thing. The GOP told me so, so this kind of stuff just can't be happening. QED.

Haven't you heard? Their talking point has evolved. Of course climate change exists - it always has - but it is in no way caused by any activities of mankind.

You guys might want to try arguing this in a thread that doesn't consist of common weather conditions in the midwest. Just because this doesn't happen "all the time" does not mean it "never happens".

/midwest weather has always been a bit schizophrenic in spring/fall.


The weather here in St Louis has been strange lately. Last night's storm wasn't unusual in  whathappened, but the  where was a little strange, as was the scope of the storm. Tornadoes aren't common in St Louis itself, yet we got several last night, and one hit Lambert airport 2 years ago. Not unheard of, but odd. Most of these storms that hit St Louis rather frequently are intense, but small in scope. Last night's storm affected a huge area, quite rare for us.
 
2013-04-11 01:23:05 PM

schubie: Cripes, it sounds like something Laura Ingalls Wilder wrote about. Some of those storms read scarier than even the clown rape episode.


Especially when you're not in a modern building, but a tiny frame house or log cabin with little between you and the storm...

 But I've often wondered. In the one book "Long Winter" or whatever, there was an old Indian guy who warned the town about it before the winter hit. Said something about every 7 winters, they'd get a bad one, and then every 7th winter of those 7 winters, it would be super bad. (So the 49th year). He was old and had seen it before. It's a similar pattern to what my dad noticed when he lived in the midwest.

 I've often wondered if anyone went back and looked at the records to see how accurate this was.
 
2013-04-11 01:24:52 PM
It's global warming bringing new kinds of "active" weather and nasty random climate changes*. Denialists can bite me!

*Unless this sort of thing is normal "abnormal". If it's abnormal abnormal, then I'm probably right. It could, of course, be normal normal or abnormal normal but why be wishy-washy? It's

Shout out to my man, Donald Rumsfield, famous logician and political philosopher. Even when he's right he sounds like he's full of devious shiat. Then again, even when he's right he IS still full of devious shiat.

The US is a world leader in natural disasters, so normal is still pretty awful some times. This is partly because it has so much stuff. American disasters are costly. It's partly because of boot-strapy and other forms of stupidity (not to mention a well-developed insurance industry and "free" government disaster insurance for repeat offenders). And it's partly because Nature gets up to some mighty tricks on US territory. But the Mid-West, you never know. Is God pissed off over the number of homo-sexuals in San Francisco and striking out in his blind fury at  Missouri, or is it just Missouri being Missouri? Hard to say.

Either way, it sucks to be you. Ha! ha!

Speaking of "suck", I saw on the Weather news this morning that Toronto is cancelling school and hundreds of airline flights because of a normal Spring storm blowing in from the South West. This means it may rain here a bit later. I must remember to check the weather before I leave work, as I might need my umbrella. These storm systems seem to peter out before they hit us, or else bypass us to the North or South. Very occasionally, it sucks to be us.
 
2013-04-11 01:26:24 PM

Maestro1701: cuzsis: DarwiOdrade: Pitabred: Don't worry, everyone. Climate change totally isn't a thing. The GOP told me so, so this kind of stuff just can't be happening. QED.

Haven't you heard? Their talking point has evolved. Of course climate change exists - it always has - but it is in no way caused by any activities of mankind.

You guys might want to try arguing this in a thread that doesn't consist of common weather conditions in the midwest. Just because this doesn't happen "all the time" does not mean it "never happens".

/midwest weather has always been a bit schizophrenic in spring/fall.

The weather here in St Louis has been strange lately. Last night's storm wasn't unusual in  whathappened, but the  where was a little strange, as was the scope of the storm. Tornadoes aren't common in St Louis itself, yet we got several last night, and one hit Lambert airport 2 years ago. Not unheard of, but odd. Most of these storms that hit St Louis rather frequently are intense, but small in scope. Last night's storm affected a huge area, quite rare for us.


 Must have been pretty exciting! Good show?

We had a similar one in MN back when I lived there. 5 tornadoes in our small town was pretty unusual too. Made for some fun conversations the next few days.
 
2013-04-11 01:36:34 PM

Burr: UnrepentantApostate: Fark it, I'm not getting out of bed.  I know what's next: LOCUSTS!

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 500x348]

Only if you live on the east coast.....
/yep, it's that time again


That's a cicada.
 
2013-04-11 01:42:53 PM

wxboy: Conditions that favor tornadoes don't often occur in front of cold fronts behind which are conditions which favor snow. Usually there's at least a buffer of a few days. In Colorado, they got a couple tornadoes from this storm, followed within 12 hours by 6" of snow. That's not normal. Typically if it's cold enough to be snowing behind a cold front it's not warm enough in front of it to support tornadic storms, especially ones capable of significant damage.


I was extremely surprised to see a couple tornado markers pop up in GELevel3 Monday evening, right in the middle of the snow.
 
2013-04-11 01:43:30 PM

cuzsis: Maestro1701: cuzsis: DarwiOdrade: Pitabred: Don't worry, everyone. Climate change totally isn't a thing. The GOP told me so, so this kind of stuff just can't be happening. QED.

Haven't you heard? Their talking point has evolved. Of course climate change exists - it always has - but it is in no way caused by any activities of mankind.

You guys might want to try arguing this in a thread that doesn't consist of common weather conditions in the midwest. Just because this doesn't happen "all the time" does not mean it "never happens".

/midwest weather has always been a bit schizophrenic in spring/fall.

The weather here in St Louis has been strange lately. Last night's storm wasn't unusual in  whathappened, but the  where was a little strange, as was the scope of the storm. Tornadoes aren't common in St Louis itself, yet we got several last night, and one hit Lambert airport 2 years ago. Not unheard of, but odd. Most of these storms that hit St Louis rather frequently are intense, but small in scope. Last night's storm affected a huge area, quite rare for us.

 Must have been pretty exciting! Good show?

We had a similar one in MN back when I lived there. 5 tornadoes in our small town was pretty unusual too. Made for some fun conversations the next few days.


I'm originally from Boston (blizzards, hurricanes, Nor'easters), been in St Louis 18 years now (thunderstorms, tornadoes). Not bothered by bad weather anymore. Last night for me was just a lot of rain, tornado sirens, and endless news reports. Not very exciting, which is fine by me.
 
2013-04-11 01:45:42 PM

cuzsis: DarwiOdrade: Pitabred: Don't worry, everyone. Climate change totally isn't a thing. The GOP told me so, so this kind of stuff just can't be happening. QED.

Haven't you heard? Their talking point has evolved. Of course climate change exists - it always has - but it is in no way caused by any activities of mankind.

You guys might want to try arguing this in a thread that doesn't consist of common weather conditions in the midwest. Just because this doesn't happen "all the time" does not mean it "never happens".

/midwest weather has always been a bit schizophrenic in spring/fall.


It's more that it's got a higher chance of being schizophrenic now. That's the whole point, that we are seeing these uncommon happenings more commonly.
 
2013-04-11 01:47:16 PM

fruitloop: naughtyrev: SNOWNADO!

Wait wait...can I play?

Blizzicane!


Already happened.  Sandy dumped a shiat ton of snow on parts of WV, MD and elsewhere in the Appalachians.
 
2013-04-11 01:56:11 PM

Jument: give me doughnuts: LabGrrl: naughtyrev: SNOWNADO!

Next on SyFy...


Too late.

[www.portlandmercury.com image 238x307]


That was a horrible, horrible "movie".

/why I keep watching those goddamn SyFy "movies" I will never know


Sometimes there is that one golden scene: Like when Greg Brady got stomped into a bloody smear by an enraged Bigfoot. It was a shame he didn't kill Danny Partridge, too.
I keep hoping to see another Debbie Gibson vs. Tiffany biatch-fight.
 
2013-04-11 02:15:35 PM
Came for Lewis Black, leaving all grumpy now.
 
2013-04-11 02:23:22 PM
Had THUNDERSNOW this morning. Got to the highway, saw the backup, pulled over, checked traffic, turned around, went home and called in sick.
 
2013-04-11 02:25:45 PM

Burr: dryknife: This is why we don't plant 'maters in Arkansas until after Tax Day.

But when do you mate planters?


upload.wikimedia.org
Would also like to know.
 
2013-04-11 02:53:29 PM

Pitabred: cuzsis: DarwiOdrade: Pitabred: Don't worry, everyone. Climate change totally isn't a thing. The GOP told me so, so this kind of stuff just can't be happening. QED.

Haven't you heard? Their talking point has evolved. Of course climate change exists - it always has - but it is in no way caused by any activities of mankind.

You guys might want to try arguing this in a thread that doesn't consist of common weather conditions in the midwest. Just because this doesn't happen "all the time" does not mean it "never happens".

/midwest weather has always been a bit schizophrenic in spring/fall.

It's more that it's got a higher chance of being schizophrenic now. That's the whole point, that we are seeing these uncommon happenings more commonly.


So argue it in a thread where that is actually the topic, not a thread about a common weather occurrence that happens reasonably regularly.

 Trying to turn every thread about "bad weather" into a "OMG global warming we're all gonna die!" is just as silly as those who turn every thread about guns into "OMG the gov't is coming to take your guns!!!"
 
2013-04-11 03:36:39 PM

dv-ous: Had THUNDERSNOW this morning. Got to the highway, saw the backup, pulled over, checked traffic, turned around, went home and called in sick.


We've had THUNDERSNOW a couple of times in the last few years in Chicago. You did the right thing. The only appropriate response to THUNDERSNOW is staying at home, drinking, and huddling under blankets or in the basement, or hiding in a blanket fort in the basement.

And yes, THUNDERSNOW is always in all caps.
 
2013-04-11 03:46:12 PM
*yawn*

/yooper
 
2013-04-11 08:54:06 PM
They're called snowdevils jack ass!
 
2013-04-11 09:22:46 PM

dv-ous: Had THUNDERSNOW this morning. Got to the highway, saw the backup, pulled over, checked traffic, turned around, went home and called in sick.


Ha! I did the same thing, except I worked from home instead of calling in sick.
 
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