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2013-04-11 12:51:19 PM  
4 votes:
"It is really impressive when you walk in the main street of this town and you have the feeling a super posh party is about to start, but it's only 10 a.m.," David De Lossy said via email.

Actually, it should be a sobering reminder than in poor areas, like the Ukraine, India, and Brazil, if you aren't a beautiful woman putting your full effort into physical health and signs of fertility, you're pretty much worthless.  Rejoice, fat and ugly American women.  You can only exist because equality isn't just about whether some guy made some inappropriate comment about boobs in your earshot.
2013-04-11 03:40:04 PM  
2 votes:
Hah. My hometown girls. Was weird to see familiar places.

So here's a Ukrainian transplant's view of all this: I would take a smart, independent, non-clingy slightly chubby chick over those model-looking gold-diggers any day.

There are plenty of beautiful American ladies that will be a lot more fun to get freaky with. And they won't dump you the second you let them understand that it's just for fun because both of you enjoy the crap out of each other and don't really care if it's for life.

The second I mentioned an open type deal to Soviet or ex-Soviet girls, I got the stare of death.

Still wish American ladies would eat better and be more physically active. Enormous amounts of beauty are hidden under layers of processed fat, sugar and salt :(
2013-04-11 12:56:26 PM  
2 votes:
*shrugs* my mom was a mail order bride, to a man 25 years her senior.
Thankfully their particular situation worked out; I'm here (yay!), my modestly wealthy dad bankrolled my mom's education and now shes a fancy pants educational coordinator pulling in $100k. Most my life she was earning her various degrees and working while my dad got to retire, raise me, and tend to his garden.

They are celebrating their 30th wedding anniversary this year by spending 1 week at my mom's house in the Caribbean and 1 week at my dad's villa in Italy.

So you know, it works, you just gotta be extremely thorough when vetting prospective brides. Make sure they share the same values as you do, and that they are good people at heart.
2013-04-11 12:54:32 PM  
2 votes:

The sound of one hand clapping: Years later and a lot of the women I've met on home turf have increased/decreased their interest in me based upon how much money I have/how much I'm willing to spend on them. I now figure that I might as well start looking to these countries. I'm an average looking guy with not a whole lot of money. Girls back home make no effort with me whatsoever. Most wont even consider me because I don't make enough money. And no, it's not looks. I'm average looking and I try for average looking girls. I'm no fool and I don't expect to snag a model.


Seriously, I know this may sound like a jerk comment, but try caring less about money yourself.  If they won't consider you because you're broke, consider what you're doing that even makes that an issue.  Some people are broke, and some people just don't have much money.  Women tend to reject the former, and be okay with the latter.  If you're an average looking guy who can make a girl laugh and carry on an intelligent conversation, I reject the premise that women are able to deduce your bank statement without you exhibiting defensive behavior or obvious bad choices.
2013-04-11 03:49:31 PM  
1 vote:

The One True TheDavid: You sound rich. And smug.


I'm rich in personality.  And adorable.


The One True TheDavid: He's (presumably) an American guy who's been dating (presumably) American women. What planet are you from where men are not expected to buy female company one way or another? "You get what you pay for" and "beggars can't be choosy." (In a famine fresh road-kill is a blessing.)

One good thing about women from impoverished countries, especially "illegals," is that to them I seem pretty well off. Till they're around long enough to get a feel for the country and realize that "comfortably middle class" in a village in Michoacan or Mindanao is dirt poor in Lexington, KY.


Looks like a brit to me, since his income has one of them there squiggle 'L's in it.  In general, if you want female companionship, you should be roughly at least as physically healthy and at least as intellectually stimulating as the people you want to be with.  Rarely does an adorable starving artist with the body of an Adonis lack for attention, if they have a healthy emotional contribution to the relationship as well.

//Gym, 26 minutes, etc
2013-04-11 03:05:15 PM  
1 vote:
About 15 years ago I helped a friend not get scammed by a Russian girl.   Followed the usual pattern.  He was in love and sure they would be married as soon as she came to the US.  I contacted ICE about mail-order brides and what it would take to get her a Visa to come to the US.   ICE told us no way she would get a tourist Visa to visit the US.   Single unattached women, unless they have a pattern of visiting 1st world countries and then going home in compliance with their Visa's don't get tourist Visa's to come to the US.   They said if he was serious about her, he would have to travel overseas, meet her, then come home and apply for a marriage visa, would take 6 to 12 months.

She dumped him when he insisted on making arrangements to meet her in Russia.   He ended up never sending her a dime.
2013-04-11 01:28:28 PM  
1 vote:
Thanks to 419eater.com, I decided to have fun with one scammer who emailed me out of the blue.

It was supposed to be some Russian girl. She included pictures of her in a nice dress and bikini. Right to pattern, the second email had her suddenly having "feelings" for me and wanting to meet me. She asked where I lived.

I live in Canada, but I told her I live in New York and that I lived in an apartment building. I built up a nice lie that made it sound like I was insanely rich. I sent copies to my buddies so they could follow this story. Something like at least half a dozen emails per person. I'm telling this scammer that I spent $15,000 of my own money rewiring the apartment building for better Internet, but this is a temporary place while my penthouse apartment was getting renovated, blah, blah, blah.

"She" wanted to come see me and sent me an proposed itinerary. She didn't ask for money at that point. But, when she went to Moscow, she found out she needed something like $1,000 for some paperwork processing "fees".

I told her I would be glad to reimburse her when she got to New York.

Never heard from her again. Go figure.

Had a friend in Winnipeg who met a "model" on a dating site.  She was also from Winnipeg (how about that!) but was in the UK for a shoot. However, she didn't have the money to get back to Winnipeg and needed something like $500. She didn't outright ask this guy for money, but he said she kept saying she needed it.

At least two of us warned him it was a scam, but he didn't want to listen. He kept talking about her and we kept saying, "She wants YOU to offer the money so she can take it and you will never meet her."

After two months, I asked him, "This has been going on for two months! Where is she getting money for hotel and food????" But, he still didn't want to admit he was getting scammed.

One day he stopped talking about her. I'm guessing he sent the money and never heard from her again. But, with this guy, the scammer probably could have got quite a bit from him if he/she played their cards right.
2013-04-11 01:18:52 PM  
1 vote:

The sound of one hand clapping: Mr Guy: The sound of one hand clapping: Years later and a lot of the women I've met on home turf have increased/decreased their interest in me based upon how much money I have/how much I'm willing to spend on them. I now figure that I might as well start looking to these countries. I'm an average looking guy with not a whole lot of money. Girls back home make no effort with me whatsoever. Most wont even consider me because I don't make enough money. And no, it's not looks. I'm average looking and I try for average looking girls. I'm no fool and I don't expect to snag a model.

Seriously, I know this may sound like a jerk comment, but try caring less about money yourself.  If they won't consider you because you're broke, consider what you're doing that even makes that an issue.  Some people are broke, and some people just don't have much money.  Women tend to reject the former, and be okay with the latter.  If you're an average looking guy who can make a girl laugh and carry on an intelligent conversation, I reject the premise that women are able to deduce your bank statement without you exhibiting defensive behavior or obvious bad choices.

I'm not broke, just not much above minimum wage.  I'm working on that situation everyday by trying to get a better job but right now I remain on a low income (For full disclosure, I make something like £14K per year, not sure what that is in $ but it's pretty low).  I'm really happy with my life, other than that and have never been known to complain about being poor.

And yes, women will date me.  But after a while they figure out that I don't have a whole lot of money.  I get that women want a guy who can provide for them and afford for them to have kids, a house, a car and a few occasional luxuries.  It's just makes it kind of sucky when you aren't one of those guys.  I thought I'd be able to find someone who'd accept that I was never going to be making the big bucks but perhaps not.

/I also realize that I've probably had bad ...


Well for what its worth I dated, fell in love, and married a broke ass n*gga who is, to this day, still a broke ass n*gga.
I knew then, as I know now, that he will never, ever make much if any money. And he'll probably never outpace me, not unless he wins the lotto or comes into an inheritance.

I'm more than happy with our situation; I couldn't fathom being with a man and expecting/wanting him to earn more money than me so he can 'take care of me'. Blech.

Women like me exist, but we're an anomaly I suppose. Unfortunately I don't know where you could find us; I met my husband in college and promptly got that shiat on lock down. I dunno, don't give up though!!
2013-04-11 01:11:44 PM  
1 vote:

The sound of one hand clapping: I figure if I'm going to get taken for a ride, might as well be by someone more attractive than me who will at least make an effort for a while before leaving. The end result will be the same either way, but at least I get more out of the bargain that way.


This seems so sad, dude.

I was once a beautiful young man, so I got laid a lot, even though I was penniless.  But I noticed that there were many downright homely men with no more money than I had who got laid a lot too.  Their secret?  Being interesting and not being afraid to ask.

So... get a facial tattoo, start riding a motorcycle, and get a really weird but fascinating hobby, like beekeeping or long distance sailing.  And every pretty woman you meet, ask.

You'll end up with a lot more fun and a lot more self respect.
2013-04-11 01:00:35 PM  
1 vote:
Incidentally studies have also shown that women will rate a mans appearance as good if they are told that other women did. Or low if told other women did.

Same is not true for men.

It goes to show how a woman ranks your looks has very little to do with how you look.
2013-04-11 12:56:52 PM  
1 vote:
One hand clapping:

Last I checked even in trailer parks men are still hooking up and producing a million kids. Your goals are too high.

Have you tried pursuing your sister?


More seriously there have been scientific studies done where women are shown a photo of a man whom they are told is a doctor and to rate his looks on a 10 point scale.

Another group of women are told he is a trash collector and asked to rate his looks.

Guess which group thought the guy was a 4 out of 10 and which group thought the same guy was a 9 out of 10?

(Don't remember if those were the exact numbers... but it was a HUGE difference)


If you are average looks but poor chances are women think you're ugly.
2013-04-11 12:48:15 PM  
1 vote:

Infernalist: About 8 years ago, I had a friend fall for a Russian woman that he'd met online.  He excitedly told me about how she was so into him, etc etc etc...He was something of an introvert, so this was good for him and very very bad for him at the same time.

She started asking for money.  I told him to be nice, but politely let her know that he couldn't afford to send her stuff or buy her anything.

She broke up with him the next day.  He was astounded at how quick she turned on him when he didn't turn over the cash.


I'm going to sound totally jaded here because, well, I guess I am.

Many years ago I heard of something like this myself.  I always swore blind that I would never start a relationship with a girl from a poorer country who, whilst she might like me, would also be attracted to my money and the extra security living in my country would bring.  So I carried on dating girls back home.

Years later and a lot of the women I've met on home turf have increased/decreased their interest in me based upon how much money I have/how much I'm willing to spend on them.  I now figure that I might as well start looking to these countries.  I'm an average looking guy with not a whole lot of money.  Girls back home make no effort with me whatsoever.  Most wont even consider me because I don't make enough money.  And no, it's not looks.  I'm average looking and I try for average looking girls.  I'm no fool and I don't expect to snag a model.

I figure if I'm going to get taken for a ride, might as well be by someone more attractive than me who will at least make an effort for a while before leaving.  The end result will be the same either way, but at least I get more out of the bargain that way.
2013-04-11 12:36:57 PM  
1 vote:
foreign brides..they all end up yoda

but, they do allow you to see which of your american pals couldn't get laid in a morgue
(or the first deployment loss of virginity)
2013-04-11 12:34:56 PM  
1 vote:
Plus side Ukrainian women, minus side human trafficking. You win this round Liam
2013-04-11 12:31:51 PM  
1 vote:
Went to Dnepopetrovsk many years back to watch my football team, and I honestly spent half my time rolling my tongue back into my mouth. The place was swimming in hot blondes. I'm bald and vaguely resemble a potato. I was wearing my kilt, a ginger wig, and an oversized Tam o'shanter. It was amazing how many women wanted to get a picture with me and hang out. Great three days that I stretched out to last two weeks.
2013-04-11 12:23:36 PM  
1 vote:
Answer is, they all are.


I have a more difficult game, guess which Filipino hooker is a transvestite.
2013-04-11 12:23:25 PM  
1 vote:
Well that's easy.  The women without a Mercedes and five-bedroom house want to be your mail order bride.  At least until they get them.
2013-04-11 12:19:15 PM  
1 vote:
About 8 years ago, I had a friend fall for a Russian woman that he'd met online.  He excitedly told me about how she was so into him, etc etc etc...He was something of an introvert, so this was good for him and very very bad for him at the same time.

She started asking for money.  I told him to be nice, but politely let her know that he couldn't afford to send her stuff or buy her anything.

She broke up with him the next day.  He was astounded at how quick she turned on him when he didn't turn over the cash.
2013-04-11 12:17:56 PM  
1 vote:
i.imgur.com
2013-04-11 12:16:48 PM  
1 vote:
No way they won't take you for half your money and run off with a bodybuilder after 6 months farmers.

This is completely safe.
2013-04-11 12:15:43 PM  
1 vote:
They start of that way, but they don't last that way

The light that burns twice as bright burns twice as fast
 
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