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2013-04-11 01:57:57 PM  
<meh>. If they ever get a Walmart the hotness factor will decrease in direct proportion to the increase in asscrack/sweat-pant/tattoo ratio.
 
2013-04-11 02:08:12 PM  

Infernalist: About 8 years ago, I had a friend fall for a Russian woman that he'd met online.  He excitedly told me about how she was so into him, etc etc etc...He was something of an introvert, so this was good for him and very very bad for him at the same time.

She started asking for money.  I told him to be nice, but politely let her know that he couldn't afford to send her stuff or buy her anything.

She broke up with him the next day.  He was astounded at how quick she turned on him when he didn't turn over the cash.

i have a friend also fall for that russian bride crap. i'm not sure how much she got out of him, but supposedly she got robbed in moskow, lost some family heirloom she was going to smuggle, things kept costing more and now he's going to have to file bankruptcy. if any of the russian stuff came out in court the newspaper might at least write about it, but he's rather ashamed of the whole mess and how long it took him to see it.
 
2013-04-11 02:19:39 PM  

enderthexenocide: as a matter of fact, i am currently speaking to a young woman from ukraine that i met on an international dating site.  i haven't had any luck with american dating sites, so i figured i would try another country.  i am very skeptical about the whole thing, but i enjoy talking with her, she seems really sweet.  if we are still talking in a few months i'll probably fly out there and visit her.  if i have to travel to ukraine to find a woman willing to go out with me, then that is what i'll do.


if you actually go soo her face to face i think you stand alot better chance for happiness. and iff for some reason you don't click its alot cheaper while she is still there, and you get a great unforgettable vacation.
 
2013-04-11 02:24:38 PM  

The sound of one hand clapping: And yes, women will date me. But after a while they figure out that I don't have a whole lot of money. I get that women want a guy who can provide for them and afford for them to have kids, a house, a car and a few occasional luxuries. It's just makes it kind of sucky when you aren't one of those guys. I thought I'd be able to find someone who'd accept that I was never going to be making the big bucks but perhaps not.


Well, why don't you aim for one that will realize your income plus her income is probably enough for both of you, and some of those occasional luxuries.  Trying to live the modern life on a single income, without a roommate is just silly, so it's inherently practical to make your roommate your lover.
 
2013-04-11 02:27:28 PM  
UKRAINE NOT WEAK!!!!

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2013-04-11 02:51:55 PM  

Mr Guy: The sound of one hand clapping:

Years later and a lot of the women I've met on home turf have increased/decreased their interest in me based upon how much money I have/how much I'm willing to spend on them...

Seriously, I know this may sound like a jerk comment, but try caring less about money yourself.


You sound rich. And smug.


If they won't consider you because you're broke, consider what you're doing that even makes that an issue.

He's (presumably) an American guy who's been dating (presumably) American women. What planet are you from where men are not expected to buy female company one way or another? "You get what you pay for" and "beggars can't be choosy." (In a famine fresh road-kill is a blessing.)

One good thing about women from impoverished countries, especially "illegals," is that to them I seem pretty well off. Till they're around long enough to get a feel for the country and realize that "comfortably middle class" in a village in Michoacan or Mindanao is dirt poor in Lexington, KY.

By the way, Mr Victim-blamer, may I borrow enough for liposuction and dental work? As it is nobody I'd want to look at is willing to share my Maker's Mark if it means looking at me. If not, well, I'd be content with $200 for a cute hooker. I'm already 50 and it'd be nice to lose my virginity before I get too senile to remember.
 
2013-04-11 02:55:10 PM  
BarkingUnicorn:

The two sisters I dated in the mid-70s

I never dated anybody that old. Maybe I should consider it though: to them 50 is young.
 
2013-04-11 03:00:57 PM  
<img src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2797/4536402916_5b550fc4af.jpg" width="500" height="400" alt="STRANDED IN THE UKRAINE">
 
2013-04-11 03:05:15 PM  
About 15 years ago I helped a friend not get scammed by a Russian girl.   Followed the usual pattern.  He was in love and sure they would be married as soon as she came to the US.  I contacted ICE about mail-order brides and what it would take to get her a Visa to come to the US.   ICE told us no way she would get a tourist Visa to visit the US.   Single unattached women, unless they have a pattern of visiting 1st world countries and then going home in compliance with their Visa's don't get tourist Visa's to come to the US.   They said if he was serious about her, he would have to travel overseas, meet her, then come home and apply for a marriage visa, would take 6 to 12 months.

She dumped him when he insisted on making arrangements to meet her in Russia.   He ended up never sending her a dime.
 
2013-04-11 03:36:43 PM  
I spent 100 bucks on a cherryblossoms account on a lark. I dated a Taiwanese girl from Malaysia in college, and enjoyed the experience; hell, let's be honest, I was in nerd heaven.

Anyway.

I got sooooo many messages I felt like a damn rock star. Huge ego boost, and I could afford to drop a c-note. Even had dinner with a guy and his filipina wife, I was talking to her cousin.

Wound up not going through the hassle of international travel, met an American woman (AW in the parlance) and wound up getting married.

She's gained 100 pounds in less than two years. On the good side, though, she's helping us knock out our debts and build wealth, and we're all only pretty for about 15 minutes anyway and I do love her.

I guess my point is that while there are LOTS of RFMs (requests for money) and scammers, I know how to dodge those, and it is possible to actually work these websites and meet nice girls. But you had really better be on your game, have your act together, and be careful, because if you meet a real girl who is not a scammer, you're talking about taking her away from everyone and everything she's ever known.

/CSB?
 
2013-04-11 03:40:04 PM  
Hah. My hometown girls. Was weird to see familiar places.

So here's a Ukrainian transplant's view of all this: I would take a smart, independent, non-clingy slightly chubby chick over those model-looking gold-diggers any day.

There are plenty of beautiful American ladies that will be a lot more fun to get freaky with. And they won't dump you the second you let them understand that it's just for fun because both of you enjoy the crap out of each other and don't really care if it's for life.

The second I mentioned an open type deal to Soviet or ex-Soviet girls, I got the stare of death.

Still wish American ladies would eat better and be more physically active. Enormous amounts of beauty are hidden under layers of processed fat, sugar and salt :(
 
2013-04-11 03:49:31 PM  

The One True TheDavid: You sound rich. And smug.


I'm rich in personality.  And adorable.


The One True TheDavid: He's (presumably) an American guy who's been dating (presumably) American women. What planet are you from where men are not expected to buy female company one way or another? "You get what you pay for" and "beggars can't be choosy." (In a famine fresh road-kill is a blessing.)

One good thing about women from impoverished countries, especially "illegals," is that to them I seem pretty well off. Till they're around long enough to get a feel for the country and realize that "comfortably middle class" in a village in Michoacan or Mindanao is dirt poor in Lexington, KY.


Looks like a brit to me, since his income has one of them there squiggle 'L's in it.  In general, if you want female companionship, you should be roughly at least as physically healthy and at least as intellectually stimulating as the people you want to be with.  Rarely does an adorable starving artist with the body of an Adonis lack for attention, if they have a healthy emotional contribution to the relationship as well.

//Gym, 26 minutes, etc
 
2013-04-11 04:46:38 PM  

The sound of one hand clapping: I'm not broke, just not much above minimum wage.  I'm working on that situation everyday by trying to get a better job but right now I remain on a low income (For full disclosure, I make something like £14K per year, not sure what that is in $ but it's pretty low).  I'm really happy with my life, other than that and have never been known to complain about being poor.

And yes, women will date me.  But after a while they figure out that I don't have a whole lot of money.  I get that women want a guy who can provide for them and afford for them to have kids, a house, a car and a few occasional luxuries.  It's just makes it kind of sucky when you aren't one of those guys.  I thought I'd be able to find someone who'd accept that I was never going to be making the big bucks but perhaps not.


Have you tried carrying one of these around with you? Chicks dig musicians, and know they're always broke.
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2013-04-11 05:04:50 PM  

WordyGrrl: Have you tried carrying one of these around with you?


Did that in high school.  Started a band with a bunch of friends.  Still couldn't get anybody to date me.  :-(  At least I had fun playing music?
 
2013-04-11 06:13:25 PM  
zyrian:
Still wish American ladies would eat better and be more physically active. Enormous amounts of beauty are hidden under layers of processed fat, sugar and salt :(

Well said.
 
2013-04-11 06:38:34 PM  
Usually girls walk down the street in teams, so we split the duty. Colin photographed one, while I did the other," David De Lossy said.

You don't say...
 
2013-04-11 06:40:45 PM  
It's not so hard, you can tell by the photo filters.

Also, sharp knees, etc. I love me some Slavic ladies, but they're just skinny which makes a 6 an 8 (see the Walmart sweatpant jokes above)
 
2013-04-11 07:07:49 PM  
I'm already married. Can I "adopt" them?
 
2013-04-11 08:29:27 PM  
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2013-04-11 09:31:08 PM  
Oooo oooo I'm a Ukrainian girl!!!

SIGN ME UP.
 
2013-04-11 09:32:31 PM  

Mega Steve: I'm already married. Can I "adopt" them?


Yes. I require all the vodkas and regular walks.
 
2013-04-11 11:46:45 PM  
Huh.  Can't deny it, they're beautiful.  But based on the BBC story I coincidentally heard today about how the Ukraine has the largest AIDS epidemic if Europe with 57 new cases every day, I think I'll pass.
 
2013-04-12 12:20:36 AM  

Mr Guy: The sound of one hand clapping: Years later and a lot of the women I've met on home turf have increased/decreased their interest in me based upon how much money I have/how much I'm willing to spend on them. I now figure that I might as well start looking to these countries. I'm an average looking guy with not a whole lot of money. Girls back home make no effort with me whatsoever. Most wont even consider me because I don't make enough money. And no, it's not looks. I'm average looking and I try for average looking girls. I'm no fool and I don't expect to snag a model.

Seriously, I know this may sound like a jerk comment, but try caring less about money yourself.  If they won't consider you because you're broke, consider what you're doing that even makes that an issue.  Some people are broke, and some people just don't have much money.  Women tend to reject the former, and be okay with the latter.  If you're an average looking guy who can make a girl laugh and carry on an intelligent conversation, I reject the premise that women are able to deduce your bank statement without you exhibiting defensive behavior or obvious bad choices.

 
2013-04-12 12:23:15 AM  
Perhaps one should reconsider showing up for that first date with the cardboard sign you use to panhandle for money.
 
2013-04-12 12:28:13 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: [img541.imageshack.us image 809x600]


Two cows!!!  Count me in!
 
2013-04-12 12:36:40 AM  

weiserfireman: About 15 years ago I helped a friend not get scammed by a Russian girl.   Followed the usual pattern.  He was in love and sure they would be married as soon as she came to the US.  I contacted ICE about mail-order brides and what it would take to get her a Visa to come to the US.   ICE told us no way she would get a tourist Visa to visit the US.   Single unattached women, unless they have a pattern of visiting 1st world countries and then going home in compliance with their Visa's don't get tourist Visa's to come to the US.   They said if he was serious about her, he would have to travel overseas, meet her, then come home and apply for a marriage visa, would take 6 to 12 months.


I'm skeptical. Is this just Russian/Ukrainian/Eastern European women? I've stayed in hostels before and seen single unattached women from all over the world. Hell, we don't even require visas for travelers coming from a lot of countries (Russia isn't one of them, but several eastern European ones are on the list)
 
2013-04-12 05:46:07 AM  

megarian: Oooo oooo I'm a Ukrainian girl!!!

SIGN ME UP.


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I am an American hundredaire with TWO tractors and half a bottle of Smirnoff. You could do worse.
 
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