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(Slate)   "Dear Prudence, my wife has started taking antidepressants, and since then she has been cheerful and optimistic. I hate it"   (slate.com) divider line 196
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2013-04-11 01:10:34 PM  
did she become a woo-girl?


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I had a friend on anti depressants and she bitached that it killed her sex drive. I told her "Honey if we found a pill that made women happy and horny we reclass it to a vitamin and introduce it into the ground water."
 
2013-04-11 01:19:43 PM  
I like how the mods throw in a little fiction, kind of like The New Yorker.
 
2013-04-11 02:08:22 PM  
Grumpy Cat is feeling this guy's pain.
 
2013-04-11 02:57:46 PM  
This shall be a Grumpy Cat thread.

/love that kitteh
 
2013-04-11 02:58:56 PM  
Ok, these have to be made up. Anti-depressants don't make people happy and optimistic. They remove the lows and the highs.
 
2013-04-11 02:59:30 PM  
Came here for the grumpy cats.  I'll be back later.
 
2013-04-11 03:01:09 PM  
This is a cover. He's actually unhappy that the anti-depressants froze her loins in a block of ice.
 
2013-04-11 03:01:24 PM  
I feel like a jerk and don't know what to do. Help!

Stop being a jerk.
~Lenny

P.S.  You're also a dumb fark for thinking your wife would never change over the course of your marriage.
 
2013-04-11 03:03:08 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Ok, these have to be made up. Anti-depressants don't make people happy and optimistic. They remove the lows and the highs.


and they tend to let you not give a shiat about anything.  I think that's more what he's pissed off about
 
2013-04-11 03:03:18 PM  
 
2013-04-11 03:03:50 PM  
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2013-04-11 03:04:44 PM  
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2013-04-11 03:04:52 PM  
Letters like this expose the fact that Dear Prudence is an exercise in creative writing and is not to be taken seriously.  No ones personality goes through that dramatic a personality change from an antidepressant.
 
2013-04-11 03:08:04 PM  
These fake letters are getting worse and worse, Prudence.
 
2013-04-11 03:08:47 PM  
I had a psychology profess who quit marriage counseling after a certain client...

He told a married woman with an unsatisfactory sex life to buy a vibrator. BIG MISTAKE (for the husband).

She found herself (often several times a day), grew a pair and told the husband to get the fark out of her life.

The husband told the counselor "thanks a bunch", agreed to a divorce and was never heard from again. The woman decided she didn't need therapy anymore either.
 
2013-04-11 03:09:31 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Ok, these have to be made up. Anti-depressants don't make people happy and optimistic. They remove the lows and the highs.


You're thinking of Bipolar medication. Anti-Depresseants just keep you from falling into the pit of self-loathing and hate.
 
2013-04-11 03:10:07 PM  
If you're going to run fake advice columns, at least dial it up a bit to include werewolves and satanic day care centers.
 
2013-04-11 03:10:07 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Ok, these have to be made up. Anti-depressants don't make people happy and optimistic. They remove the lows and the highs.


Thisis the Dear Prudence article that makes you wonder?

 The question isn't if the articles are made up, it's if the same person writes the Q&A.  Because if so that's some hilarious stuff.
 
2013-04-11 03:10:09 PM  
www.knowmemes.com
 
2013-04-11 03:10:26 PM  
I didn't know my ex got married.
 
2013-04-11 03:10:31 PM  
My wife and I had a conversation/thought experiment about this.

First question: Say I was only nice to be around when I was drinking alcohol. I went to a doctor and he monitored my liver functions and enzymes and agreed that I was under less stress and a nicer person to be around when I had three or four beers a day. I don't drive or operate heavy machinery, and my work output is better or at least unaffected. Question: Is that okay, or not? If not, how is it fundamentally different from being on psychoactive drugs? What if instead of alcohol, I were a functional drug addict on something harsher than alcohol?

Second question: How much are you allowed to alter yourself chemically before one could say that you are no longer "you"? This is a philosophical question, not a moral or ethical one.
If physical monism is true, then the answer is "as much as you want" because all you are is a bag of walking chemicals.
If (certain forms of) dualism is true, then the answer is tougher - at what point are your actions/thoughts/beliefs so fundamentally different from those that your mind would have otherwise created that your inner mind and your outer expression are no longer meaningfully linked?

One of the reasons why I love my wife is because we have conversations like this. In her opinion, the answer to he first question is that as long as you're not harming yourself or others then it's fine (she's a pragmatist). Her answer to the second question is that it's meaningless because physicalism is true.

In my opinion, my answer to the first question is that it's objectively "better" to attempt to deal with whatever issues "on your own" and actually become a different or better person without needing constant modification, though I agreed it may not be possible (I'm an idealist). My answer to the second question was that it's impossible to answer, but not meaningless because (some form of) dualism is true.
 
2013-04-11 03:11:21 PM  
Dear Prudence,

My bipolar husband decided to get on medications to try and help stabilize him. That's great for him and all but I have daddy issues and am feeling very bored and decently about myself now that he is not constantly berating me over the smallest issue. Sometimes his anger comes through and I can feel the waves of anxiety washing over me like a warm and dark blanket; but then he catches himself and actually apologizes for his behavior. Now that I don't have someone watching my every move waiting me to fark up I am feeling lonely and appreciated. Please help!

Signed, Crazy biatch
 
2013-04-11 03:11:31 PM  
More likely to be caused by the coke-fueled "therapeutic" sex parties she has with her counselor every Tuesday at noon.

That cynical enough for ya', pal?
 
2013-04-11 03:11:49 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: I had a psychology profess who quit marriage counseling after a certain client...

He told a married woman with an unsatisfactory sex life to buy a vibrator. BIG MISTAKE (for the husband).

She found herself (often several times a day), grew a pair and told the husband to get the fark out of her life.

The husband told the counselor "thanks a bunch", agreed to a divorce and was never heard from again. The woman decided she didn't need therapy anymore either.


Prof realized there's more money in sex toys than in marriage counseling?
 
2013-04-11 03:12:31 PM  

blatz514: [www.knowmemes.com image 486x578]


That's the first one that has made me lol since the first time I saw him.
 
2013-04-11 03:15:03 PM  
What are the name of these pills? How do I sign my wife up?
 
2013-04-11 03:15:13 PM  
When I started therapy & antidepressants Mrs. Anomaly said she hoped it didn't change my personality. I reminded her that was the entire point.

Since (it's been several years) she's been happy with the changes (mostly consisting of my ability to talk rationally about future plans instead of assuming that any day now, all of us will be trapped in inescapable poverty).
 
2013-04-11 03:15:50 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Ok, these have to be made up. Anti-depressants don't make people happy and optimistic. They remove the lows and the highs.


I had a college friend who went on anti-depressants and it did the opposite.  She went from being down to "OMG We have to party all night!!! If you don't come with me I'll kill myself.  You don't like me.  Nobody likes me.  Let's go out and get wasted!  WOOOOOOO!!!!"

Really bad reaction to the stuff.  Every brain is different, and tinker too much with the chemistry and weird shiat can happen.
 
2013-04-11 03:16:11 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: These fake letters are getting worse and worse, Prudence.


Real letters wouldn't get any clicks.

I also love it when I open Parade magazine on Sunday and read that people have sent them "letters" asking inane questions that could have been answered in seconds with Google.
 
xcv
2013-04-11 03:16:53 PM  
What's going on in Slate's comment section?
 
2013-04-11 03:17:14 PM  
You're supposed to be sad after a funeral, you don't need pills.
 
2013-04-11 03:18:07 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Ok, these have to be made up. Anti-depressants don't make people happy and optimistic. They remove the lows and the highs.


I've been depressed for years. I don't have "highs". I have rare periods of "not low" when I distract myself with something or other. If you have highs and lows you're probably more bipolar--as opposed to just depressed.

No, I have no degrees in medicine. Feel free to tell me how I don't know what I'm talking about, then sit on your thumb.
 
2013-04-11 03:18:19 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Ok, these have to be made up. Anti-depressants don't make people happy and optimistic. They remove the lows and the highs.


Not necessarily true.
 
2013-04-11 03:18:57 PM  

thatboyoverthere: J. Frank Parnell: Ok, these have to be made up. Anti-depressants don't make people happy and optimistic. They remove the lows and the highs.

You're thinking of Bipolar medication. Anti-Depresseants just keep you from falling into the pit of self-loathing and hate.


The best analogy I've seen is that depression is like wearing "shiat-colored glasses", and taking antidepressants is like removing them.

They certainly don't make one "artificially" happy - we have a name for that condition: stoned. If they could get people stoned they'd have street value, and they don't.
 
2013-04-11 03:20:47 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: You're supposed to be sad after a funeral, you don't need pills.


What if you aren't sad...don't you need sad pills?
 
2013-04-11 03:20:48 PM  

lennavan: I feel like a jerk and don't know what to do. Help!

Stop being a jerk.
~Lenny

P.S.  You're also a dumb fark for thinking your wife would never change over the course of your marriage.


Yea, this sucks..
 
2013-04-11 03:21:29 PM  
I had a GF that went on anti-depressants.  She sat in the dark in front of the TV and for weeks at a time.
 
2013-04-11 03:23:29 PM  

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: HotWingConspiracy: You're supposed to be sad after a funeral, you don't need pills.

What if you aren't sad...don't you need sad pills?


You've got a future in pharmaceutical sales, kid.
 
2013-04-11 03:24:31 PM  

Delawheredad: Letters like this expose the fact that Dear Prudence is an exercise in creative writing and is not to be taken seriously.  No ones personality goes through that dramatic a personality change from an antidepressant.


That's my experience with quite a few people.  I've never seen antidepressants do much to anyone.  Heck, most people say they don't work at all.  Or just barely.

To each their own- if they work for you, awesome.  Just not my experience.
 
2013-04-11 03:24:33 PM  
What do you think would be harder?  Getting off paxil or getting off a fat wife?

Hope I never need to find out.
 
2013-04-11 03:25:06 PM  
Dear Abby, Dear Abby,

My wife takes a pill,
She's so farkin' happy it's making me ill.
It was better before when she was just sad,
This eternal sunshine just makes me feel bad.

Sign me, Pessimistic.
 
2013-04-11 03:26:19 PM  

xcv: What's going on in Slate's comment section?


World's most obnoxious troll, who learned that they have a ridiculous character limit to their screen names.
 
2013-04-11 03:26:22 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: What do you think would be harder? Getting off paxil or getting off a fat wife?


I don't know, but my ex couldn't get off while he was one paxil...
 
2013-04-11 03:26:44 PM  
They should bring back Laudlam for housewives.
 
2013-04-11 03:26:56 PM  
My best antidepressant is steroids. Not having constant allergy attacks make me perfectly happy. Allegra and zertec suck.
 
2013-04-11 03:27:00 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-11 03:27:01 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: EdNortonsTwin: What do you think would be harder? Getting off paxil or getting off a fat wife?

I don't know, but my ex couldn't get off while he was one paxil...


goddammit.
 
2013-04-11 03:27:27 PM  

Lord Dimwit: My wife and I had a conversation/thought experiment about this.

First question: Say I was only nice to be around when I was drinking alcohol. I went to a doctor and he monitored my liver functions and enzymes and agreed that I was under less stress and a nicer person to be around when I had three or four beers a day. I don't drive or operate heavy machinery, and my work output is better or at least unaffected. Question: Is that okay, or not? If not, how is it fundamentally different from being on psychoactive drugs? What if instead of alcohol, I were a functional drug addict on something harsher than alcohol?

Second question: How much are you allowed to alter yourself chemically before one could say that you are no longer "you"? This is a philosophical question, not a moral or ethical one.
If physical monism is true, then the answer is "as much as you want" because all you are is a bag of walking chemicals.
If (certain forms of) dualism is true, then the answer is tougher - at what point are your actions/thoughts/beliefs so fundamentally different from those that your mind would have otherwise created that your inner mind and your outer expression are no longer meaningfully linked?

One of the reasons why I love my wife is because we have conversations like this. In her opinion, the answer to he first question is that as long as you're not harming yourself or others then it's fine (she's a pragmatist). Her answer to the second question is that it's meaningless because physicalism is true.

In my opinion, my answer to the first question is that it's objectively "better" to attempt to deal with whatever issues "on your own" and actually become a different or better person without needing constant modification, though I agreed it may not be possible (I'm an idealist). My answer to the second question was that it's impossible to answer, but not meaningless because (some form of) dualism is true.


So in other words you convinced your wife to let you stay buzzed all the time by using a philosophical argument?

High five!
 
2013-04-11 03:27:28 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: You're supposed to be sad after a funeral, you don't need pills.


Yep.  I've had periods of what would clinically be called depression and doctors and therapist are alarmingly quick to suggest drug treatment for what I would describe as situational temporary depression.  Grief of a loved one.  Losing a job.  Bad thing happening to you.

These things are not supposed to be easy to deal with.  But if you are largely functional and progressively improving, then you're dealing with life, not a medical issue.

My mom took antidepressants after both parents died.  Right after.  No waiting a week or two to see how she felt.  Just sad=medication.  All part of the modern mentality that medicine can cure everything.  At least this is just drug therapy and not throwing billions of dollars of risky surgery and medical intervention at dying shells of people.
 
2013-04-11 03:28:03 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: EdNortonsTwin: What do you think would be harder? Getting off paxil or getting off a fat wife?

I don't know, but my ex couldn't get off while he was one paxil...


Lots of people have that reaction to these mood stabilizers.
 
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