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2013-04-11 12:20:35 PM  
fark that guy
"why would I live there?" because you're unemployed and can't afford living in your ivory tower anymore, prick. it's hard to look down on people when you're at the bottom.
get farked
/yeah I know he'll be back in cushjobville in a week
 
2013-04-11 12:22:30 PM  

TheBlackrose: FuturePastNow: Yet the people who created Metro probably mostly still have jobs.

The people who created Metro didn't go on Twitter and tell their user base that they're farking morons for not embracing their potential design decisions.

What's even more hilarious is people in the industry blaming the internet:

[i.imgur.com image 522x430]


Wow, what an idiot.  Hey Grant, how 'bout you get out of that ivory tower and start living amongst the common folk, ey?
 
2013-04-11 12:23:45 PM  

r00tdenied: Actually. . .about that MS announced it in their own press release.  Media outlets picked up on it.  The rage spread and Sony basically came out and said 'Yea good thing WE'RE not doing that'.  Maybe the outrage will cause MS to change this 'feature' but I doubt it.


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-11 12:24:02 PM  

r00tdenied: Burr: js34603: So the always online feature is being removed?

What's that? They just fired some random guy no one had heard of until he opened his stupid social media hole? And the always online thing is going forward anyway?

Nice job, good effort.

There is no confirmation about the function even existing in the first place,  just rumors and speculation.

Of course, rumor and speculation is the lifeblood of the internet.

Actually. . .about that MS announced it in their own press release.  Media outlets picked up on it.  The rage spread and Sony basically came out and said 'Yea good thing WE'RE not doing that'.  Maybe the outrage will cause MS to change this 'feature' but I doubt it.


i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-04-11 12:27:40 PM  

Trocadero: Burr: Jeff: He'll get over it

He'll get ov

DAMNIT


To be honest, I was surprised that I was the first...

Fark be slippin!
 
2013-04-11 12:28:29 PM  

Burr: js34603: So the always online feature is being removed?

What's that? They just fired some random guy no one had heard of until he opened his stupid social media hole? And the always online thing is going forward anyway?

Nice job, good effort.

There is no confirmation about the function even existing in the first place,  just rumors and speculation.

Of course, rumor and speculation is the lifeblood of the internet.


Granted, a lot of the net is trusting the sources of the leaks because they were right about a lot of the Wii U, 3ds, and ps4 stuff, as well as some vita stuff.

So when they say this or that about the next Xbox, folks were buying it, although, the info in the leaks appeared to be much older then the playstation or nintendo stuff.

It's become pretty obvious that a lot of the real accurate stuff has got to be right from the companies themselves.  Sony seems to be the most comfortable doing that, with Nintendo the most secret. MS tends to be in between, but very tight lipped, till yesterday, on the xbox.
 
2013-04-11 12:29:47 PM  

scottydoesntknow: i1.kym-cdn.com


hahaha
 
2013-04-11 12:31:27 PM  
I don't know anything about Janesville, WI beyond their closed auto plant and being Paul Ryan's hometown, but Blacksburg, VA is the home of Virginia Tech.  I'd be willing to wager that Microsoft hires people out of there all the time, and enjoys the revenues that tens of thousands of engineering students pump into their gaming business.

Why would someone want to live in Blacksburg?  To become a tech-biz employee, like Orth.
 
2013-04-11 12:33:06 PM  

Antimatter: Burr: js34603: So the always online feature is being removed?

What's that? They just fired some random guy no one had heard of until he opened his stupid social media hole? And the always online thing is going forward anyway?

Nice job, good effort.

There is no confirmation about the function even existing in the first place,  just rumors and speculation.

Of course, rumor and speculation is the lifeblood of the internet.

Granted, a lot of the net is trusting the sources of the leaks because they were right about a lot of the Wii U, 3ds, and ps4 stuff, as well as some vita stuff.

So when they say this or that about the next Xbox, folks were buying it, although, the info in the leaks appeared to be much older then the playstation or nintendo stuff.

It's become pretty obvious that a lot of the real accurate stuff has got to be right from the companies themselves.  Sony seems to be the most comfortable doing that, with Nintendo the most secret. MS tends to be in between, but very tight lipped, till yesterday, on the xbox.


Usually, it is a good bet with tech stuff that it is more then likely accurate.  I am having a hard time thinking of an incident where something was rumored and turned out to be not true (I'm sure somebody around here can give an example)

Still, until I see it from MS, it is just a rumor to me.
 
2013-04-11 12:33:13 PM  

theurge14: The suggestion was made on Slashdot that what might have happened is Orth lost an internal debate at Microsoft regarding the always on feature and took it to Twitter to continue to argue his case.


People have managed to read really far into a couple of twitter comments and game site rumors.
 
2013-04-11 12:34:35 PM  

TheBlackrose: RoxtarRyan: TheBlackrose: What's even more hilarious is people in the industry blaming the internet:

Why the hell don't people learn that you should NOT badmouth your customers? WTF???

It's not even that. I mean, badmouthing your user base is such an obvious "don't do this." But when your account's profile puts your company's position on a pedestal and you proceed to cause a shiatstorm, that little "views does not represent the company" boilerplate won't save you.

However, what burns my goat is more the industry people playing the blame game. We've grown up in an age where personal responsibility no longer means anything. Whenever we as an individual do something wrong, it has to be someone else's fault. It just has to be. It can never be your own fault. Admitting you did something wrong or that something is your fault is perceived as a weakness.

The best I've seen thus far is people going, "HE WASN'T FIRED, HE RESIGNED." Guess people have never heard of a forced resignation before.

/This is corporate politics 101


Nailed it dead-on.
 
2013-04-11 12:34:51 PM  

scottydoesntknow: How would you use a console on a train? Do they have TVs that you can plug into? Honestly I've never been on a train that went further than a couple miles.

You'd probably be better off getting a gaming laptop and Steam. A decent mouse and you'd be set. Be sure to enable offline mode prior to hopping on the train, just to make sure.


I'll tell you one group this feature will piss off: the military grunt.  Yeah, believe it or not they play lots of console games on submarines, ships, and FOBs in their downtime.  Then they spend mad cash on games and systems for their barracks rooms back at home.  "Always on" means the new XBOX is a non-starter for many deployed military units.

But hey, what's a few hundred thousand customers?
 
2013-04-11 12:36:43 PM  

Burr: Still, until I see it from MS, it is just a rumor to me


Pretty much.  The same sites that said they had anonymous sources telling them that the console was always connected now have leaks telling them that it's not.  If they need ad revenue from clicks next week then it will be always connected again or some bullshiat.
 
2013-04-11 12:37:54 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: theurge14: The suggestion was made on Slashdot that what might have happened is Orth lost an internal debate at Microsoft regarding the always on feature and took it to Twitter to continue to argue his case.

People have managed to read really far into a couple of twitter comments and game site rumors.


And that's the problem Microsoft got out of this.
 
2013-04-11 12:38:51 PM  

Burr: Antimatter: Burr: js34603: So the always online feature is being removed?

What's that? They just fired some random guy no one had heard of until he opened his stupid social media hole? And the always online thing is going forward anyway?

Nice job, good effort.

There is no confirmation about the function even existing in the first place,  just rumors and speculation.

Of course, rumor and speculation is the lifeblood of the internet.

Granted, a lot of the net is trusting the sources of the leaks because they were right about a lot of the Wii U, 3ds, and ps4 stuff, as well as some vita stuff.

So when they say this or that about the next Xbox, folks were buying it, although, the info in the leaks appeared to be much older then the playstation or nintendo stuff.

It's become pretty obvious that a lot of the real accurate stuff has got to be right from the companies themselves.  Sony seems to be the most comfortable doing that, with Nintendo the most secret. MS tends to be in between, but very tight lipped, till yesterday, on the xbox.

Usually, it is a good bet with tech stuff that it is more then likely accurate.  I am having a hard time thinking of an incident where something was rumored and turned out to be not true (I'm sure somebody around here can give an example)

Still, until I see it from MS, it is just a rumor to me.


There are a ton of rumors about this or that sony is doing with a console based off their patent filings.  A lot of folks predicted no used games for the ps3 due to that.  that one ended up being false in the end.

As it turns out, sony patents all kinds of stuff, just because they thought it up.  Quite a bit doesn't seem to make it into their systems.  for example, they had some enhanced psmove patents, and some split-controller dualshock patents.  the current DS4 seems to be a hybrid of several of them, including move esque gyros and the lightbar, but otherwise holding more in common with the Ds3 then the split controller in the patent.

But yeah, the ones based on actual hardware/dev kits tends to be true.
 
2013-04-11 12:41:13 PM  

factoryconnection: scottydoesntknow: How would you use a console on a train? Do they have TVs that you can plug into? Honestly I've never been on a train that went further than a couple miles.

You'd probably be better off getting a gaming laptop and Steam. A decent mouse and you'd be set. Be sure to enable offline mode prior to hopping on the train, just to make sure.

I'll tell you one group this feature will piss off: the military grunt.  Yeah, believe it or not they play lots of console games on submarines, ships, and FOBs in their downtime.  Then they spend mad cash on games and systems for their barracks rooms back at home.  "Always on" means the new XBOX is a non-starter for many deployed military units.

But hey, what's a few hundred thousand customers?


Is it true there is a standing rule to never play DEFCON while stationed at NORAD, just in case?
 
2013-04-11 12:41:52 PM  

Erix: "And he's a nice guy as well. He teases and f**** around - like so many of us on the net do - and yeah, he tweeted without thinking (like many of us on the net do) and he just got very unlucky."

Yes, that sure was some bad luck there.  No way to have seen it coming, poor bloke.


+1. That day I made douchy, arrogant comments tied to a product I worked on, my real name and my employer's name was simply the unluckiest day of my life. #dealingwithunemployment
 
2013-04-11 12:44:41 PM  

factoryconnection: I'll tell you one group this feature will piss off: the military grunt.


The guy who plays "Francis" covers that very well.
 
2013-04-11 12:45:25 PM  

prjindigo: its all bullshiat
Your computer is always on unless you rock the power switch on the back.

Your toaster, dishwasher, washing machine and dryer are always on.

Cope.   Why the fark would you want to play an entire array of multiplayer games offline?


Seriously, the bigger shiat is the lack of fanboi outcry over the unit being 100% AMD hardware and still costing nearly twice as much as the equivalent APU system it shares spec with.



If a washing machine required a constant internet connection, would you buy it?
 
2013-04-11 12:52:44 PM  

prjindigo: Cope. Why the fark would you want to play an entire array of multiplayer games offline?


You are a soldier on deployment.

/checkmate
 
2013-04-11 12:53:39 PM  

zero7717: If a washing machine required a constant internet connection, would you buy it?


If that connection provided useful benefits? Yes.

However, if in the absence of that connection, my washing machine refused to wash clothes or locked down the lid or the agitator didn't spin or I could only use cold water settings - basically, if the main function(s) of the thing were rendered useless by the lack of connection - HELL NO I would not buy it.

Especially if the company refused to acknowledge the very obvious use-case problems with a device that operates that way - in that case, not only does the OEM not care about the product they're selling, but they don't even care about the people who bought it.
 
2013-04-11 12:57:41 PM  
You know what's going to be hilarious? This guy lost his job and in a month Microsoft is going to announce the next XBox with an always on feature. And you know what? They are going to tell you to #dealwithit.
 
2013-04-11 12:57:51 PM  

Dr Dreidel: zero7717: If a washing machine required a constant internet connection, would you buy it?

If that connection provided useful benefits? Yes.

However, if in the absence of that connection, my washing machine refused to wash clothes or locked down the lid or the agitator didn't spin or I could only use cold water settings - basically, if the main function(s) of the thing were rendered useless by the lack of connection - HELL NO I would not buy it.


Well that's what REQUIRED and CONSTANT means.
So your answer is no.
 
2013-04-11 12:58:07 PM  

fluffy2097: prjindigo: Cope. Why the fark would you want to play an entire array of multiplayer games offline?

You are a soldier on deployment.

/checkmate


Or one of the many countries they sell the system in with spotty or areas with no internet.  They don't support Xbox Live in all the countries they even sell the Xbox in.  It was a dumb rumor to begin with.
 
2013-04-11 01:00:31 PM  
Do I believe that MS leaked the story as a trial balloon in order to see how the general public would take it? Yes.
Do I believe they have received a reply that will ensure this feature is optional in the released product? Yes.

Do I believe that the internet hates MS enough to not shut up about it? YES!!
 
2013-04-11 01:11:42 PM  
I would be pissed if the next Xbox doesn't have an always on requirement.  People need to move into the farking twenty-first century.  And if that means you can't get an xbox until you lobby your crappy po-dunk town council for municipal broadband, so farking be it.

Unless, of course, you live somewhere like North Carolina where municipal broadband is illegal because it steps on the toes of Time Warner.  Then tell Microsoft to pick a fight with Time Warner and grab some popcorn.
 
2013-04-11 01:12:54 PM  
scottydoesntknow:

i1.kym-cdn.com


You, sir, made me laugh. Thank you.
 
2013-04-11 01:17:16 PM  
"You've lived in LA, San Francisco, Seattle... very connected places. Try living in Janesville, WI or Blackburg, VA," Heir countered.

I'm from Janesville. Never realy had an issue. I live in an even smaller city now and commute to Milwaukee. Still dont have issue. I lost internet once I think in the 4 years. I hear more complaining about it from people who live downtown.

/Always on is farking stupid.
//the internet hate fir people and places not on the coast is starting to get really annoying
 
2013-04-11 01:18:25 PM  
i.qkme.me
 
2013-04-11 01:21:33 PM  
Here's what I predict for the new Xbox:

Models & features that will require an "always-on" internet connection to work:
1. The subsidized/cheaper model (since it has to be subsidized by rotating new ads)
2. People who want to use the new device's cable TV pass thru feature, since it'll have to get content data online
3. Xbox live gold features (duh)
4. Online gaming (duh)

Models & features that won't require an "always-on" internet connection:
1. The full priced model
2. Playing single player games on the full priced model
3. Watching DVD/blueray content on the full priced model

And when it's announced, the blogosphere & internet will proclaim that this is all because of pressure from all the whining people online.

I could be totally off, and offline users will be screwed but that's what I think will happen.
 
2013-04-11 01:33:09 PM  

MrSteve007: And when it's announced, the blogosphere & internet will proclaim that this is all because of pressure from all the whining people online.

I could be totally off, and offline users will be screwed but that's what I think will happen.


I think you're totally right except that you failed to predict that a sizable contingent will still whine about things like needing to be always-on for the subsidized model and Xbox Live gold continuing to be a subscription service.
 
2013-04-11 01:36:05 PM  
i.imgur.com
He certainly has to.
 
2013-04-11 01:46:40 PM  
It's nice to see that the days of large companies (or people that work for large companies) pissing in customer's mouths and ordering them to swallow is coming to an end. Personal responsibility: It's endangered but not extinct.
 
2013-04-11 01:50:52 PM  

Straight to doom: [i.imgur.com image 596x463]


wat
 
2013-04-11 01:52:58 PM  

mooseyfate: It's nice to see that the days of large companies (or people that work for large companies) pissing in customer's mouths and ordering them to swallow is coming to an end.


Diablo 3 came out less than a year ago.  Have they changed since then?

/will assign blame for the death of the gaming industry squarely on activision/blizzard
//much rather consumers have the willpower to say no to a few video games to prevent us going down this road
///hate this road, hate kids on lawn
 
2013-04-11 01:59:04 PM  

factoryconnection: scottydoesntknow: How would you use a console on a train? Do they have TVs that you can plug into? Honestly I've never been on a train that went further than a couple miles.

You'd probably be better off getting a gaming laptop and Steam. A decent mouse and you'd be set. Be sure to enable offline mode prior to hopping on the train, just to make sure.

I'll tell you one group this feature will piss off: the military grunt.  Yeah, believe it or not they play lots of console games on submarines, ships, and FOBs in their downtime.  Then they spend mad cash on games and systems for their barracks rooms back at home.  "Always on" means the new XBOX is a non-starter for many deployed military units.

But hey, what's a few hundred thousand customers?


If I'm Sony I'm doing another Hall of Play style console/game shipment overseas on launch day.
 
2013-04-11 02:01:22 PM  

Antimatter: Is it true there is a standing rule to never play DEFCON while stationed at NORAD, just in case?


Presumably you can't watch Wargames on your tablet either.
 
2013-04-11 02:07:45 PM  

MrSteve007: Here's what I predict for the new Xbox:

Models & features that will require an "always-on" internet connection to work:
1. The subsidized/cheaper model (since it has to be subsidized by rotating new ads)
2. People who want to use the new device's cable TV pass thru feature, since it'll have to get content data online
3. Xbox live gold features (duh)
4. Online gaming (duh)

Models & features that won't require an "always-on" internet connection:
1. The full priced model
2. Playing single player games on the full priced model
3. Watching DVD/blueray content on the full priced model

And when it's announced, the blogosphere & internet will proclaim that this is all because of pressure from all the whining people online.

I could be totally off, and offline users will be screwed but that's what I think will happen.


I wonder if you'll be able to block ads on the new xbox like you can with the 360.
 
2013-04-11 02:17:40 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

upload.wikimedia.org

Explain to me the reason I need to be on the internet to play these games?

The only possible reason is for MS to make sure I am not stealing them.

It's why my Rock Band 1/2/3 DLC won't work unless I am logged into an internet connection. Not every game has multiplayer. So let's not kid ourselves into thinking that the main reason for a perm connection is a major company wanting to control piracy.

Can they do that? Absolutley. Do they HAVE to do that? Absolutley not.
 
2013-04-11 02:26:39 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: [upload.wikimedia.org image 249x353]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 256x322]

Explain to me the reason I need to be on the internet to play these games?

The only possible reason is for MS to make sure I am not stealing them.

It's why my Rock Band 1/2/3 DLC won't work unless I am logged into an internet connection. Not every game has multiplayer. So let's not kid ourselves into thinking that the main reason for a perm connection is a major company NOT wanting to control piracy.

Can they do that? Absolutley. Do they HAVE to do that? Absolutley not.


Points make more damn sense when you include ALL the words.
 
2013-04-11 02:41:21 PM  

ha-ha-guy: dahmers love zombie: ha-ha-guy: Even if we accept the idea that we have always on connections, many ISPs have monthly caps or are moving in the direction of monthly caps.  So why would I want a console that is going to use my connection when I don't want it to and eat into my cap space?

So...what happens if you just hook one of these to it:
[i.imgur.com image 220x220]
And clap when you're done gaming for the day/session?  Does it do bad things if you pull the plug?

The point is that reports so far suggest you won't be able to engage in single player games without first phoning home and communicating with the server, so it costs me part of my bandwidth cap just to open Forza and play a few tracks on my own.


That 10k of data will put you over the 250 gig limit that Comcast gives you.  My family does a ton of online gaming and Netflix to the point of one of them are running from at least 4pm till midnight.  The last 3 months we average 70GB of data used, the xbox doesn't use that much data when it's running multiplayer games.
 
2013-04-11 02:45:33 PM  
i.imgur.com
The way I read the exchange, it sounded more like Orth was a bit of an ass who didn't know that you don't get to build the hardware you WANT to build, you get to build the hardware your customer wants to buy. If he didn't know that one simple thing, he needs to find another job.
Also, your customer may not live in downtown LA or Seattle, and it might still be nice to sell him a product- that you're talking to someone who a) bought your last one, and b) is considering buying your next one sight-unseen but has concerns about being able to use the product should be taken as an opportunity to gain insight into your potential market for free, not an occasion to ridicule the heathens in flyover country who are so insignificant and unimportant to you. They weren't unimportant to Microsoft's stockholders, so Orth doesn't have a job.

Full disclosure: I own Microsoft stock, and I'm glad Orth is gone.
 
2013-04-11 02:45:46 PM  

MrSteve007: Here's what I predict for the new Xbox:

Models & features that will require an "always-on" internet connection to work:
1. The subsidized/cheaper model (since it has to be subsidized by rotating new ads)
2. People who want to use the new device's cable TV pass thru feature, since it'll have to get content data online
3. Xbox live gold features (duh)
4. Online gaming (duh)

Models & features that won't require an "always-on" internet connection:
1. The full priced model
2. Playing single player games on the full priced model
3. Watching DVD/blueray content on the full priced model

And when it's announced, the blogosphere & internet will proclaim that this is all because of pressure from all the whining people online.

I could be totally off, and offline users will be screwed but that's what I think will happen.


You analysis, sir, is both intelligent and plausible.

What the hell are you doing on Fark?
 
2013-04-11 02:50:28 PM  

TNel: That 10k of data will put you over the 250 gig limit that Comcast gives you. My family does a ton of online gaming and Netflix to the point of one of them are running from at least 4pm till midnight. The last 3 months we average 70GB of data used, the xbox doesn't use that much data when it's running multiplayer games.


#1: Comcast got rid of their cap, at least temporarily.
#2: There are people in this country with ISPs with caps FAR lower than what Comcast had... maybe 5GB/month. Yes. A home ISP, not a wireless hotspot.
 
2013-04-11 02:52:21 PM  

Elegy: MrSteve007: Here's what I predict for the new Xbox:

Models & features that will require an "always-on" internet connection to work:
1. The subsidized/cheaper model (since it has to be subsidized by rotating new ads)
2. People who want to use the new device's cable TV pass thru feature, since it'll have to get content data online
3. Xbox live gold features (duh)
4. Online gaming (duh)

Models & features that won't require an "always-on" internet connection:
1. The full priced model
2. Playing single player games on the full priced model
3. Watching DVD/blueray content on the full priced model

And when it's announced, the blogosphere & internet will proclaim that this is all because of pressure from all the whining people online.

I could be totally off, and offline users will be screwed but that's what I think will happen.

You analysis, sir, is both intelligent and plausible.

What the hell are you doing on Fark?


Not really. This is Microsoft we are talking about. This guy makes sense, so therefore it won't happen.
 
2013-04-11 02:58:25 PM  
This should have been all the lesson that Orth needed.

 http://wwebsiteasontheinternet.com/


But of course too soon are the lessons of the past forgotten.

/Christoforo: Never Forget
 
2013-04-11 03:12:04 PM  

RoxtarRyan: TNel: That 10k of data will put you over the 250 gig limit that Comcast gives you. My family does a ton of online gaming and Netflix to the point of one of them are running from at least 4pm till midnight. The last 3 months we average 70GB of data used, the xbox doesn't use that much data when it's running multiplayer games.

#1: Comcast got rid of their cap, at least temporarily.
#2: There are people in this country with ISPs with caps FAR lower than what Comcast had... maybe 5GB/month. Yes. A home ISP, not a wireless hotspot.


"Note:enforcement of the 250GB data consumption threshold is currently suspended  "  Wow I am impressed thanks for making me look a bit closer at my online stats.

If you are capped that low you are not using Netflix or online gaming so my point will still stand the amount of data used to phone home is very small.  According to Comcast  "their median monthly data usage is currently only 12 to 14 GB per month" for all users, which would be pretty shocking that a broadband subscriber would limit someone to 5GB of data.
 
2013-04-11 03:12:55 PM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: Would've been hilarious if instead of firing/forcing him to resign, they assigned him to a branch of MS located in Janesville, WI or Blacksburg, VA.  I couldn't be happier to see this news though.  And the fact that Cliff Bleszinski appears to be upset by it just further affirms to me that this is a good thing.


pssft after GM arse raped Janesville, they might actually take him so we could have at least one job in the city.
 
2013-04-11 03:14:38 PM  

prjindigo: its all bullshiat
Your computer is always on unless you rock the power switch on the back.

Your toaster, dishwasher, washing machine and dryer are always on.

Cope.   Why the fark would you want to play an entire array of multiplayer games offline?


Seriously, the bigger shiat is the lack of fanboi outcry over the unit being 100% AMD hardware and still costing nearly twice as much as the equivalent APU system it shares spec with.


I know I'm feeding a troll, but I'll poke back on a couple points.

As far as the gaming demographic goes, I fall squarely in the "old curmudgeon" quadrant.  I have a life outside gaming, and don't necessarily want to share my gaming experience with the hordes (see what i did there?) of console monkeys who haven't seen sunlight since grade school and spend way too much time playing whack-a-mole with the n00bs like me who just want to play a quick game.  I actually buy games for the single player campaign mode, because I like being able to pick up the plot thread every so often when family, work, etc. gives me a couple spare hours.  If my game has to call the mothership every time I have the spare time to play, and my bandwidth is already taken up by the Roku in the other room, or a VPN connection to my client because I'm uploading a metric farkton of analysis metrics, or any number of reasons I can't snag a good connection, then my gaming experience is diminished.  And don't tell me to "deal with it" because I'm not the major demo they're selling to.  My dollars are just as green as yours and I'll happily spend them on something that WILL suit my needs.

/My lawn.  Get off it.
/'Cause I'm spawncamped on it.
 
2013-04-11 03:38:37 PM  
Even though I thought his comments were dickish and plain stupid, I can sympathize on a personal level with his firing as we all do stupid shiat in the heat of an argument sometimes.  However, MS didn't have that much of a choice with that kind of press happening, and their management should know better than to be snarky on public media.

Generation_D: Fired for expressing what many in places like Seattle believe. I'll play apologist kinda.

A bunch of us came from places like Janesville WI and Blacksburgh, VA, and got an education and left. Or found a town where they were hiring and left. Or just had enough of our inbred hometown bullsh*t and left. Made something of ourselves once we got here, competed with our brains instead of our birth certificates, and have done well in the thriving economies of Left Coast big cities. And take pride in what we've accomplished.

With pride comes arrogance, sometimes, unfortunately.

But its one thing to spout crap into anonymous forums, quite another to head up a consumer gaming group. Bad fight to pick, Orthy. You still need to sell sh*t to them. Stop telling them how a lot of us really think.

On the bright side, now you can sit all day and tweet out how much the midwest and appalachia sucks.


You know, there are big cities that exist that aren't located on the coasts. We even have indoor plumbing and such now!

/lives in KC, and so does google fiber
 
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