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(NBC News)   Social conservatives to RNC chairman Reince Priebus: We could leave the GOP. Seriously, we'd just walk out. We mean it. No, we really mean it. Why are you holding open the door, jackass, we're serious here? Stop pushing, man   (firstread.nbcnews.com) divider line 62
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2013-04-11 08:54:33 AM
12 votes:

Phil Moskowitz: I still don't believe anyone named Reince Priebus actually exists. This was something made up by Russia Today to make the GOP look like twats.


Remove all the vowels from his name and it RNC PR BS  now tell me he isn't an engineered life form created with the purpose of leading the RNC
2013-04-11 08:55:13 AM
9 votes:
America - Where taxpayers give pensions and healthcare to millionaires for life to decide what to take away from taxpayers that work 6 or 7 days a week just to make ends meet so they can give tax breaks to their wealthy friends that bankrupted the country at least twice while their supporters call us lazy hippies for pointing it out.
2013-04-11 09:09:34 AM
5 votes:
Conservative groups use "Family" in their names like Congolese death squads use "Liberation" in their names.
2013-04-11 09:08:24 AM
5 votes:

DeltaPunch: You think this is some kind of joke, GOP? You think I'm playing around here? Well, you can just forget about me voting for anyone with an "R" after his name who wasn't astroturfed by the Koch bros. I'm being dead serious: I absolutely cannot and will not vote for anyone with an "R" after his name who wasn't astroturfed by the Koch bros. So, yeah.... better think twice on that.


Fun fact: Fred Koch, founder of Koch Industries, was also a co-founder of the John Birch Society.
2013-04-11 09:30:11 AM
4 votes:
Outrageous Muff: No offense, but the Green Party is basically the democrats' Tea Party except they can't get elected. Plus they allowed W. into office.

Perhaps, but they want to overturn Citizens United, end the Drug War, get out of Middle East politics, scale down Homeland Security, regulate industries capable of disrupting our national and even world economy, and do away with the for-profit prison system. These are issues I care about. And frankly, I'm tired of politics being about gays, God and abortion. It's exhausting. But the Greens came down on the better side of those arguments for me too.  I cared about health care too, but then my health insurance costs and copays doubled overnight. So I figure voting for a third party devoted to issues I care about, rather than for the strongest party who pays them lip service in between "Greatest Nation on Earth" speeches,  is the ethical thing for me to do, even if a few W's get elected in the process.
2013-04-11 09:29:34 AM
4 votes:

The Southern Logic Company: The GOP is only Fundies and Libertarians?


At this point, the answer is pretty much Yes.

The Fundies and Libertarians have been successful in purging the other elements from the party. Those who haven't been actively purged have been forced to adopt the Fundie/Libertarian/Tea Party positions as a matter of self preservation.

Richard Lugar lost his primary this last cycle because he wasn't conservative enough. Think about that. There was a time when the Republicans might have been able to fight a successful battle to remove the Social Conservatives. That time is past.
2013-04-11 08:51:06 AM
4 votes:
Good, GTFO. It would be nice to have a reasonable opposition to the democrats. Maybe then we could actually have a liberal alternative to vote for instead of just center-right and batshiat-donkey-farking-crazy.

/ if you promise never to come back I'll buy you idiots the plain tickets to Afghanistan. If you can get over the fact that you named your religion differently you'd fit in a lot better with the Taliban anyway
2013-04-11 09:25:41 AM
3 votes:
The conservatives additionally expressed their anger at what they said was an insinuation that they had treated gays and lesbians unkindly.
"The fact that the party is strongly committed to traditional marriage has not prevented their involvement through GOProud or Log Cabin Republicans," they wrote. "We deeply resent the insinuation that we have treated homosexuals unkindly personally."


Except for the part where the GOP didn't allow those groups to attend CPAC, but everything's cool otherwise.

Not feeling sympathy for the GOP at this point.  They created this mess.  They cultivated this mess.  They grew this mess.  It's too bad they grew virulent, poisonous kudzu.
2013-04-11 08:49:51 AM
3 votes:
The social conservatives won't abandon the GOP, and the GOP won't do a goddamned thing to push them out.

They'll just claim they're taking a more libertarian stance because RAND PAUL thinks people should serve a little less jail time for having weed.
2013-04-12 09:18:07 AM
2 votes:
24.media.tumblr.com
2013-04-11 11:05:08 AM
2 votes:
"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."
2013-04-11 10:17:54 AM
2 votes:

lolpix: Outrageous Muff: No offense, but the Green Party is basically the democrats' Tea Party except they can't get elected. Plus they allowed W. into office.

Perhaps, but they want to overturn Citizens United, end the Drug War, get out of Middle East politics, scale down Homeland Security, regulate industries capable of disrupting our national and even world economy, and do away with the for-profit prison system. These are issues I care about. And frankly, I'm tired of politics being about gays, God and abortion. It's exhausting. But the Greens came down on the better side of those arguments for me too.  I cared about health care too, but then my health insurance costs and copays doubled overnight. So I figure voting for a third party devoted to issues I care about, rather than for the strongest party who pays them lip service in between "Greatest Nation on Earth" speeches,  is the ethical thing for me to do, even if a few W's get elected in the process.


Ah, so  not only do I get to blame the likes of you for 8 years of W, I can also tell you to "F off" because you're not serious about getting candidates to move me into voting for Green.

Good to know.
2013-04-11 09:41:14 AM
2 votes:

boxster: Rapmaster2000: I like to use DOCTOR Ron Paul as I've heard that Ron being a doctor lends credence to his views on myriad subjects.

Like economic theory.


I listen to DOCTOR RON PAUL on economics right after I have Dr. Paul Krugman deliver my baby.
2013-04-11 09:32:35 AM
2 votes:

Outrageous Muff: Philip Francis Queeg: Really, the Greens were dictating policies to the Democrats from 2000-2004? Please provide examples.

Their boy Howard Dean wasn't in office until 2005, where they lucked into a shiatty run of luck with Bush.  But instead of pushing for real liberals in 2006, they caved and voted for the Demopublicans in all these house seats. Seats they lost four years later because a real liberal would have had the balls to keep that seat.


So in other words the Greens had no power what so ever, unlike the Tea Party.
2013-04-11 09:21:23 AM
2 votes:

Aarontology: The social conservatives won't abandon the GOP, and the GOP won't do a goddamned thing to push them out.

They'll just claim they're taking a more libertarian stance because RAND PAUL thinks people should serve a little less jail time for having weed.


I love watching all this saber rattling that will ultimately go nowhere. The GOP and the Retards need each other. To actually split would decimate an already wounded party wandering in the woods.

Smart people understand that if social conservatives create their own faction, Dems will win for at least 20 years. Neither the establishment nor the Tea People/Thumpers are going anywhere on their own.
2013-04-11 09:00:15 AM
2 votes:
www.morethings.com
2013-04-11 08:58:27 AM
2 votes:
People are constantly evaluating political news with a Dem vs Rep slant.  These days, the far more important battles are within the GOP itself.  Everybody in the party has their knives out, and they're all pointed at each other.  Boner hates Cantor, everybody hates McConnell, etc.  The Tea Party wants control of the GOP, that's where the big fight is.  The Dems are just watching and shaking their heads.
2013-04-11 08:54:45 AM
2 votes:
Lol... The fundies aren't going anywhere. The GOP is more than accommodating them with fundamentalist candidates and a far-right platform.
2013-04-11 08:51:11 AM
2 votes:
www.peopalove.com
2013-04-11 08:49:28 AM
2 votes:
I'll never get used to this guys name. It sounds like it came out of The Phantom Menace.
2013-04-11 08:48:11 AM
2 votes:
No way becuz Merica can only be a two party system!  (If we give them actual choices there's an outside chance we might have to serve the populous as a whole)
2013-04-11 11:14:57 AM
1 votes:

Citrate1007: When they do, the GOP will be a force to be reckoned with.  Honestly, the conservative "greed is good" motto that gave us the '80s is waiting to happen again it is just that too many people fear the bible pounders' agenda to allow the GOP to take the wheel again.


This.  There were a lot of people who would have voted Romney in this last cycle if it didn't mean rolling back the civil rights movement 60 years.  This potential departure of the Social conservaties kinda scares the crap out of me.
2013-04-11 11:03:05 AM
1 votes:

pciszek: TalenLee: America can only be a two party system as long as you have Weeners the post voting. You shiat in your bed, you have to sleep in it.

Are there any countries that let people vote for candidates directly (as opposed to voting for a party that will choose who to put into office, later) using a voting system other than first-past-the-post?  Which countries and which systems?

I am NOT talking about the parlimentary system, since (if I understand correctly) no voter gets to vote for a specific person for Prime Minister under that system.


My wife is going to vote this Sunday for the next Liberal party leader in Canada.  She can then vote for the Liberal party.  Pretty much as close as you can get to picking the equivalent of a Canadian "President".

Of course Canada is just 1/10th the size of the US so it would be hard to do the same thing.
2013-04-11 10:59:20 AM
1 votes:

The Snow Dog: If the Republicans want to actually be a viable entity in the future it's time they told their ignorant douchebag loudmouth party-members to take a walk. They hog the limelight and give the rest of the party a bad name.


...so the ten bad apples are poisoning the one good one?  Good to know.

/This is not an "isolated incident". It's endemic to the Republican Party.
2013-04-11 10:45:49 AM
1 votes:

jgbrowning: Jodeo: WHAT IF we replaced the two party system with something else?

You may be interested in what good 'ole New Zealand did...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-member_proportional_representatio n


Which can work in a parliamentary system, because legislators must form a majority coalition.

Sorry to burst the bubble, but a multi-party system would be a disaster for Congress.  You think you have gridlock now?  Imagine six, eight, ten parties.  Each has anywhere from 10 to fifty seats, each has its own purity tests and all the usual party bs. Try to get that many factions to agree on, say, a package of spending cuts.

You'd never get another budget passed.  Yeah, I know, not like they're getting passed now, but it would be far harder to get agreement on anything.
2013-04-11 10:27:38 AM
1 votes:
"We respectfully warn GOP Leadership that an abandonment of its principles will necessarily result in the abandonment of our constituents to their support,"

Well, actually the influx of "Social COnservatives" and "religious right" was a move to reinforce the base with a voting block that was easily lead and riled up. Basically it consisted of Southern Demacrats and religious fiundamentalists...  basically the same group of people who could see and hear everything people like Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggart did, you know corruption in Christs name, taking money from the poor to line their own pockets, talk to a 900 foot jesus and claim that if you were not able to raise a few million dollars from pensioners and Social security collectors among others because they believed you actually talked to 900 foot jesus, and so on...     so basically, the GOP in the 80's invited the hard religious conservatives because they were easy dupes with a completely dedicated ignorant but stalwart and stubborn base to draw from. However, the leaders of that group hunger for power, so in that the cracks were formed.

so anyway, the religious right is actually anathema to what the actual Republican party was supposed to be about. Excusing the Religious right from the GoP would actually be more of a return to the core values of the party, and could possibly bring back legislators akin to Olympia Snow who acted pragmatically and responsibly, and were actually able to help govern the country.
2013-04-11 10:22:18 AM
1 votes:
In totally unrelated news, the following announced 13 new talk shows, all with 7 figure salaries for their hosts, based on the novelty of dissing the mainstream Republican party, all funded by mysterious donors who will be crippled if they ever have to pay taxes.


Gary Bauer, President, American Values
Paul Caprio, Director, Family-Pac Federal
Marjorie Dannenfelser, President, Susan B. Anthony List - QUE?!?
Dr. James Dobson, President and Founder, Family Talk Action
Andrea Lafferty, President, Traditional Values Coalition
Tom Minnery, Executive Director, CitizenLink
William J. Murray, Chairman, Religious Freedom Coalition
Tony Perkins, President, Family Research Council
Sandy Rios, VP of Government Affairs, Family-Pac Federal
Austin Ruse, President, Catholic Family & Human Rights Institute
Phyllis Schlafly, President, Eagle ForumRev.
Louis P. Sheldon, Founder, Traditional Values Coalition
Tim Wildmon, President, American Family Association
2013-04-11 10:19:36 AM
1 votes:

TalenLee: America can only be a two party system as long as you have Weeners the post voting. You shiat in your bed, you have to sleep in it.


Are there any countries that let people vote for candidates directly (as opposed to voting for a party that will choose who to put into office, later) using a voting system other than first-past-the-post?  Which countries and which systems?

I am NOT talking about the parlimentary system, since (if I understand correctly) no voter gets to vote for a specific person for Prime Minister under that system.
2013-04-11 10:16:23 AM
1 votes:
Republicans are spending a lot of time lately telling me about how they're holding the door open so the Social Conservatives can leave. Usually when Republicans spend a lot of time telling me something, it turns out to be a lie. Of course, if the GOP finally stands up to the Social Conservatives that will prove me wrong, so in a sense that would be "sticking it to a Lib" (hint hint).
2013-04-11 10:05:44 AM
1 votes:

Outrageous Muff: Philip Francis Queeg: Strong willed candidates that got destroyed in the general election and ensured that the Democrats retained control of the Senate.

I'm not talking about the Senate. I'm talking about the House, where dozens of Tea Party candidates won over the democratic candidate.


The same house where many of those same Congressmen lost their seats in the next election when their constituents realized how utterly bat shiat crazy they were?

Is Alan West really the model of candidate you want?
2013-04-11 10:01:24 AM
1 votes:

Outrageous Muff: Philip Francis Queeg: The Tea Party candidates are better candidates? Are you farking joking?

To their base they are.  Instead of electing pussy moderates in the primary like the democrats did, the Tea Party elected strong willed candidates.  Liberals need to elected strong willed candidates instead of a cowardly LINOs they do.


Strong willed candidates that got destroyed in the general election and ensured that the Democrats retained control of the Senate.
2013-04-11 09:55:06 AM
1 votes:

Outrageous Muff: Philip Francis Queeg: So in other words the Greens had no power what so ever, unlike the Tea Party.

No, I'm saying they wasted it on the party candidates instead of pushing their own, better candidates like the Tea Party did. Real liberals would have kept those seats.


The Tea Party candidates are better candidates? Are you farking joking?
2013-04-11 09:53:29 AM
1 votes:

SuperNinjaToad: ......one would think Susan B Anthony would be for gay rights.


The SBA List's primary stated purpose is to get pro-life women elected.  Go figure.
2013-04-11 09:46:27 AM
1 votes:
The signatories to this week's letter were:

Gary Bauer, President, American Values
Paul Caprio, Director, Family-Pac Federal
Marjorie Dannenfelser, President, Susan B. Anthony List - QUE?!?
Dr. James Dobson, President and Founder, Family Talk Action
Andrea Lafferty, President, Traditional Values Coalition
Tom Minnery, Executive Director, CitizenLink
William J. Murray, Chairman, Religious Freedom Coalition
Tony Perkins, President, Family Research Council
Sandy Rios, VP of Government Affairs, Family-Pac Federal
Austin Ruse, President, Catholic Family & Human Rights Institute
Phyllis Schlafly, President, Eagle ForumRev.
Louis P. Sheldon, Founder, Traditional Values Coalition
Tim Wildmon, President, American Family Association


......one would think Susan B Anthony would be for gay rights.
2013-04-11 09:40:57 AM
1 votes:

lewismarktwo: populous


Is there no-one on Fark who can spell this word?

No-one who knows the difference between the adjective (populous) and the noun (populace)?

Seriously.  I have never, not once, seen it used correctly here.

It's like no-one cares to tow the line around here!
2013-04-11 09:39:58 AM
1 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: Richard Lugar lost his primary this last cycle because he wasn't conservative enough. Think about that. There was a time when the Republicans might have been able to fight a successful battle to remove the Social Conservatives. That time is past.


I'm a libby libby liberal progressive and even I realize that Lugar was a decent politician and was responsible for removing thousands of nuclear weapons from this planet and most likely also helped to create legislation that slowed the proliferation of both traditional weapons but also nuclear weapons to other nations on this planet. And in that regard, I honestly really respected the man and could almost give him my vote.

So when the GOP decided it was time to go all Space Marine and purge the unclean I was honestly shocked when they kicked Lugar out.
  

Philip Francis Queeg: So in other words the Greens had no power what so ever, unlike the Tea Party.



They changed the overton window and pushed that third rail politic shiat that helped keep the dems in the wilderness for years. Thankfully we've grown a spine since then.
2013-04-11 09:38:08 AM
1 votes:

lolpix: Outrageous Muff: No offense, but the Green Party is basically the democrats' Tea Party except they can't get elected. Plus they allowed W. into office.

Perhaps, but they want to overturn Citizens United, end the Drug War, get out of Middle East politics, scale down Homeland Security, regulate industries capable of disrupting our national and even world economy, and do away with the for-profit prison system. These are issues I care about. And frankly, I'm tired of politics being about gays, God and abortion. It's exhausting. But the Greens came down on the better side of those arguments for me too.  I cared about health care too, but then my health insurance costs and copays doubled overnight. So I figure voting for a third party devoted to issues I care about, rather than for the strongest party who pays them lip service in between "Greatest Nation on Earth" speeches,  is the ethical thing for me to do, even if a few W's get elected in the process.


My mother told me I had a twin who went missing in my infancy.

Is it you?
2013-04-11 09:34:44 AM
1 votes:

The Southern Logic Company: The GOP is only Fundies and Libertarians?


"Only?" No. "Overwhelmingly?" Yes.

You know, I was a former Republican who ran away from the party BECAUSE of Fundies and Libertarians.

This really seems to support my thesis, more than it supports the thesis apparently implied by your opening rhetorical question.

If the RNC could piss off the fundies enough to make them leave, Republicans can actually be a viable choice and have some good ideas if the party didn't have a bunch of hooting idiots drowning everyone out.

If the GOP pissed off the fundies enough to make them leave, a few GOP moderates might come back to the fold. What you and subby don't understand though is that social conservatism exists specifically because the Ayn Rand agenda supported by the GOP's real base of corporatist billionaires is politically inviable.

Thus, they cultivated social conservatism to draw off support from otherwise massively Democratic constituencies. It is hard to believe today that the agriculturus was once regarded as a cornerstone of the New Deal coalition. There's reason why the Republican Party finds socialist Jesus in agricultural subsidies--well two. One is to keep rural white voters on their side, and the other is to appease big agribusiness.

This is what liberals mean when they refer to the kinds of social issues that motivate social conservatives as "wedge issues." They were fabricated to drive a wedge between the Democratic Party and its supporters. It worked very well, but now the GOP is dependent on social conservatives. They are nothing without them. They cannot and will not intentionally alienate them anytime soon.
2013-04-11 09:31:20 AM
1 votes:

Almost Everybody Poops: DeltaPunch: You think this is some kind of joke, GOP? You think I'm playing around here? Well, you can just forget about me voting for anyone with an "R" after his name who wasn't astroturfed by the Koch bros. I'm being dead serious: I absolutely cannot and will not vote for anyone with an "R" after his name who wasn't astroturfed by the Koch bros. So, yeah.... better think twice on that.

Fun fact: Fred Koch, founder of Koch Industries, was also a co-founder of the John Birch Society.


As well as the Silver Brigades.
2013-04-11 09:27:31 AM
1 votes:

The Southern Logic Company: You know, I was a former Republican who ran away from the party BECAUSE of Fundies and Libertarians. There are people in this country who don't hate gays, don't want to go back to The Articles of Confederation, believe in economic conservatism, small government and some degree of social freedom. Its really awful that people like me are lumped in with the borderline bigoted actions of the "Religious Right" when I honestly would love to see them all thrown at the sun.

Democrats/Liberals, I get that the RNC has been HURR DURR for the last.....10-20 years. I've seen it, I was paying attention too. But like in a courtroom, politics in the US is an adversarial system and when the opposition party is an unorganized grabastic piece of amphibian shiat, it isn't helping anything. If the RNC could piss off the fundies enough to make them leave, Republicans can actually be a viable choice and have some good ideas if the party didn't have a bunch of hooting idiots drowning everyone out.


As much as that would be awesome, that's about as likely as everyone getting a unicorn
2013-04-11 09:19:40 AM
1 votes:

SpankyPinkbottom: The Social Conservatives are no longer able to provide the votes that the GOP needs, and the GOP has never really delivered on their promise to fight for Conservative values.

Seems like a mutually unsatisfying relationship. I don't think this marriage can be saved.


Even more interesting is this.  What if the GOP prostrates themselves before the social right at this point?  Do they damn themselves to decades of irrelevant decline to a slow death?

What was once a strength of the Republicans (the social conservatives would provide the votes, the fiscal "conservatives" would provide the money) is becoming a weakness.  If the social conservatives can't generate electoral victories the money will dry up and if the party caves to the social conservatives, in a few years, there won't be enough money in the world to win an election based on their ridiculous platform.
2013-04-11 09:16:23 AM
1 votes:

Vodka Zombie: I'm enjoying watching the death of the Republican party.


It's more like a risky lumpectomy procedure to remove a cancerous growth.  Could go either way at this point.
2013-04-11 09:15:03 AM
1 votes:
The Social Conservatives are no longer able to provide the votes that the GOP needs, and the GOP has never really delivered on their promise to fight for Conservative values.

Seems like a mutually unsatisfying relationship. I don't think this marriage can be saved.
2013-04-11 09:14:46 AM
1 votes:
I'm enjoying watching the death of the Republican party.
2013-04-11 09:14:13 AM
1 votes:

bugontherug: Aarontology: Wooly Bully: Holding the line against same-sex marriage, the letter argues, would allow Republicans to make better inroads, for instance, into more traditionally-minded corners of the African American community.

Somewhere, buried deep within parts of the country we've long ignored, are hidden pockets of the valuable fuel our party needs to survive. Drill, baby, drill, for that sweet oil of bigotry!

For example, they'll send RAND PAUL to Howard University to talk down to black college students

GOP Bigwhig: We need to work on our minority outreach, fellas. Any ideas?

RAND PAUL: I'll go explain to some black kids that if only they weren't so ignorant of American history, they'd know liberals are the real racists.

GOP Bigwhig: Aren't you the one who said the Constitution guarantees a right to racial discrimination in public accommodations?

RAND PAUL: It does.

GOP Bigwhig: Terrific. Get to it, then.


Later..

GOP Bigwig: Well why the hell didn't that work?


Almost Everybody Poops: Curious, where did the whole capitalization of RON and RAND PAUL originate from?


If I'm remembering correctly, it was from the 2004 elections when Fark was inundated with Ron Paul supporters who tended to be much more enthusiastic than either Kerry or Bush supporters, because RON PAUL will save the Constitution. It started out as emphasis, and just kinda snowballed into a meme. When Rand joined the Senate, it was passed along to him.
2013-04-11 09:06:51 AM
1 votes:
Wow, they served that up on a platter.  The smart move for the GOP is just to send an open letter back saying, "Thanks for all you've done, though it's sad to see you go, we need to modernize the party and at least develop a few policy positions that make sense.  Since this is a civil rights issue, we're starting here because it's a no brainer".

What are these douches going to do?  Join the Dems?  Start their own ineffective third party?   Yes, this action might greatly reduce the chances of the GOP in the next election cycle or two, however long term... it's the only responsible path the party can take.  America is getting more educated and wordly (slowly, I grant you, but still getting there)...  the politics of ignorance are already starting to show cracks.
2013-04-11 09:05:37 AM
1 votes:

Outrageous Muff: lolpix: I don't think of myself as a liberal, but I voted Green Party in the last presidential election because their ticket most aligned with my own political ideals, meanwhile voting Democrat was morally unconscionable to me, and voting for a Mitt Romney-Ayn Rand ticket was unfathomable.

No offense, but the Green Party is basically the democrats' Tea Party except they can't get elected. Plus they allowed W. into office.


That a perfect comparison if you ignore the fact that the Greens have absolutely zero power within the Democratic Party and have no effect what so ever on the platform or policies of the Party.
2013-04-11 09:02:19 AM
1 votes:
Oh how ADORABLE! Subby is a libertarian who thinks the GOP could exist without social conservatives!

We got a live one, fellas!
2013-04-11 09:02:15 AM
1 votes:

Wooly Bully: Holding the line against same-sex marriage, the letter argues, would allow Republicans to make better inroads, for instance, into more traditionally-minded corners of the African American community.

Somewhere, buried deep within parts of the country we've long ignored, are hidden pockets of the valuable fuel our party needs to survive. Drill, baby, drill, for that sweet oil of bigotry!


Yeah, they absolutely refuse to acknowledge the 5 moderate votes they lose for every vote this policy gains them.
2013-04-11 09:00:51 AM
1 votes:
Social conservatives warn Priebus they could abandon GOP

And the GOP replied "And go where?" followed by "Now shut up and go make us all sammiches, biatches. "
2013-04-11 08:59:18 AM
1 votes:

lolpix: I don't think of myself as a liberal, but I voted Green Party in the last presidential election because their ticket most aligned with my own political ideals, meanwhile voting Democrat was morally unconscionable to me, and voting for a Mitt Romney-Ayn Rand ticket was unfathomable.


No offense, but the Green Party is basically the democrats' Tea Party except they can't get elected. Plus they allowed W. into office.
2013-04-11 08:58:57 AM
1 votes:
If you don't hate everything we hate we will totally leave and for a viable third party in a little less than a year and YOU'RE NOT INVITED!
2013-04-11 08:58:41 AM
1 votes:
Holding the line against same-sex marriage, the letter argues, would allow Republicans to make better inroads, for instance, into more traditionally-minded corners of the African American community.

Somewhere, buried deep within parts of the country we've long ignored, are hidden pockets of the valuable fuel our party needs to survive. Drill, baby, drill, for that sweet oil of bigotry!
2013-04-11 08:57:26 AM
1 votes:
Too late Republicans. The social conservatives are too deeply embedded for you to ever be able to remove them without destroying yourselves entirely.
2013-04-11 08:56:50 AM
1 votes:
God, the signatories are like a who's-who of the wing-nut Derp Crew.  To lose all of them at once would be a day worth celebrating.
2013-04-11 08:54:22 AM
1 votes:
You think this is some kind of joke, GOP? You think I'm playing around here? Well, you can just forget about me voting for anyone with an "R" after his name who wasn't astroturfed by the Koch bros. I'm being dead serious: I absolutely cannot and will not vote for anyone with an "R" after his name who wasn't astroturfed by the Koch bros. So, yeah.... better think twice on that.
2013-04-11 08:53:02 AM
1 votes:
We'll need the Republican party for as long as a bell-curve has a back side.
2013-04-11 08:50:06 AM
1 votes:
"Chairman Priebus agrees that we must stand up for our conservative principles while we work together to grow our party and win elections and has been traveling the country with that message," said Kirsten Kukowski, an RNC spokeswoman. Furthermore, she said that a resolution re-affirming the platform was currently being drafted, and would likely win approval from the full RNC this Friday.


Tells you all you need to know about he GOP and its "reforms".
2013-04-11 08:49:35 AM
1 votes:
Yeah, yeah.  If the RNC weakens their dedication to malice, they'll pack up and go.. somewhere?
2013-04-11 08:49:08 AM
1 votes:
Good riddance to Newt's rubbish.
2013-04-11 08:48:42 AM
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I still don't believe anyone named Reince Priebus actually exists. This was something made up by Russia Today to make the GOP look like twats.
2013-04-11 08:48:37 AM
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Liberals should do this to the democratic party since they are nothing more than Republicans who call themselves liberal.
 
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