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(NBC News)   Social conservatives to RNC chairman Reince Priebus: We could leave the GOP. Seriously, we'd just walk out. We mean it. No, we really mean it. Why are you holding open the door, jackass, we're serious here? Stop pushing, man   ( firstread.nbcnews.com) divider line
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2013-04-11 12:46:39 PM  

xria: Parliamentary systems you are effectively voting for who is the Prime Minister, as that is a part of the party platform/manifesto before you vote, so effectively you are voting for both your local candidate, and implictly that will carry over to voting for the PM elect of that same party (of course in some cases that could mean you are forced to vote for a local MP that you don't like in order to support a potential PM you do, or vice versa).


Plus, it would be impossible for someone to run independently on a "Both parties are bad, so vote for me instead" platform.  Not that you can practically do that in the US either, but independent candidates can at least screw things up for the major parties.
 
2013-04-11 12:46:53 PM  
The Southern Logic Company:The GOP is only Fundies and Libertarians?

I suppose there are also a number of party members that pay no attention to policies and vote Republican out of habit. But anyone that sees what the GOP does and supports it, yes they are either "Fundies" or "Libertarians"

The Southern Logic Company:There are people in this country who don't hate gays, don't want to go back to The Articles of Confederation, believe in economic conservatism, small government and some degree of social freedom.

Yes, they are called "Democrats" and they have been for a very, very long time.

The Southern Logic Company:Democrats/Liberals, I get that the RNC has been HURR DURR for the last.....10-20 years.

You're off by a few decades there. The GOP has been actively courting racists, religious zealots and economic cannibals ever since Nixon. Slowly everyone else has either left the party in disgust or been forcibly kicked out.
 
2013-04-11 12:55:25 PM  

CrazyCracka420: Moran...the Democrats in this country are Republican "lites", almost all of them skew to the right of center in the political spectrum.


In the future, if you don't understand something, you should ask for clarification.
 
2013-04-11 12:56:58 PM  

Hillbilly Jim: I'll never get used to this guys name. It sounds like it came out of The Phantom Menace.


Hmmm...

Member of a capitalistic merchant cabal whose goal is to either reduce government meddling with corporate interests, or else co-opt the government and use state power to promote corporate interests?  Yep.

Enters into alliance with persons who might help them achieve their goals, whom they privately disdain as sad devotees of an ancient religion?  Yep.

Ultimately undone by said association with religious fanatics, who find their lack of faith disturbing, and destroy the Trade Federation in an internal power struggle, as part of their plan to impose a despotic theocracy?  Yep.

Lucas/Jar Jar 2016

/Looking forward to Clint Eastwood ranting at an empty chair, with a transparent, wavering holObama sitting in it
 
2013-04-11 12:59:39 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Which is probably why they keep him around even though he is absolutely and comically horrible at his job.



Better him than Michael Steele, no?
 
2013-04-11 01:08:21 PM  

James!: If you don't hate everything we hate we will totally leave and for a viable third party in a little less than a year and YOU'RE NOT INVITED!


So there,

Rinsed Pubis.
 
2013-04-11 01:18:48 PM  

Deucednuisance: lewismarktwo: populous

Is there no-one on Fark who can spell this word?

No-one who knows the difference between the adjective (populous) and the noun (populace)?

Seriously.  I have never, not once, seen it used correctly here.

It's like no-one cares to tow the line around here!



You're point is mute. FARKers don't care about grammer.
 
2013-04-11 01:18:53 PM  
These same people were the core of the Democratic party until the forties, when the Democratic party included support for the Civil Rights movement in its platform. They left, and formed the Dixiecrats, which had all the clout you can imagine, and wound up being welcomed by the Republican party. Wonder where they'll go next
 
2013-04-11 01:19:08 PM  
Ah, so by catering to their every whim, the GOP is ACTUALLY asking them to LEAVE? It ALL makes PERFECT SENSE!!
 
2013-04-11 01:19:29 PM  
This is the self deportation you are looking for.
 
2013-04-11 01:23:02 PM  

Lord_Baull: Deucednuisance: lewismarktwo: populous

Is there no-one on Fark who can spell this word?

No-one who knows the difference between the adjective (populous) and the noun (populace)?

Seriously.  I have never, not once, seen it used correctly here.

It's like no-one cares to tow the line around here!

You're point is mute. FARKers don't care about grammer.


For all intensive purposes, we do!
 
2013-04-11 01:23:58 PM  

Lord_Baull: Vodka Zombie: Which is probably why they keep him around even though he is absolutely and comically horrible at his job.

Better him than Michael Steele, no?


Strip clubs and everything, you've gotta admit the Republicans won more elections when Michael Steele was in charge than this Riced Prius guy.

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2013-04-11 01:24:52 PM  

LemSkroob: While their points can be debated against, the republican party can run, and win, on its economic, international, and military policies.



Aren't you precious!
 
2013-04-11 01:27:12 PM  
"We respectfully warn GOP Leadership that an abandonment of its principles

It's cute they think politicians give a flying shiat about principles beyond vote harvesting.

/Democrats don't actually care about the environment that much either - it's just another core constituency.
 
2013-04-11 01:28:25 PM  

h0tsauce: Wonder where they'll go next


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2013-04-11 01:29:00 PM  
Kirsten Kukowski

Hey, I got my comedy 'Ks' back!
 
2013-04-11 01:29:26 PM  

The Why Not Guy: Gaseous Anomaly: Your all good at posting interesting thing's. Tanks.

We should have a grammar party. Please RSVP.


GRAMMAR PARTY!

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Because "Party on, dudes" is not the same as "Party on dudes"
 
2013-04-11 01:35:19 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Because "Party on, dudes" is not the same as "Party on dudes"


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"It ith where I'm contherned!"

 
2013-04-11 01:44:35 PM  

h0tsauce: These same people were the core of the Democratic party until the forties, when the Democratic party included support for the Civil Rights movement in its platform. They left, and formed the Dixiecrats, which had all the clout you can imagine, and wound up being welcomed by the Republican party. Wonder where they'll go next


Back to their roots.

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2013-04-11 01:44:59 PM  
Bullshiat. Evangelicals, by FARKING DEFINTION, are ignorant, irrational sheep who do what they're told, when they're told. They know their betters and well damn well snap too and vote straight ticket GOP for the foreseeable future.
 
2013-04-11 01:50:17 PM  
OK, great, you might separate yourselves from sedentary asshole social conservatives.  You still have the "fark you I got mine" sociopath contingency weighing you down.

The GOP cannot be a viable party unless it completely reinvents itself and rebuilds from the ground up.
 
2013-04-11 01:51:05 PM  
It's a shame that fiscal conservatism is just as big of a failure as social conservatism.  I really would like to see them divorced though, so that fiscal conservatives could stop hiding their failure behind the skirts of religious wackjobs.
 
2013-04-11 01:57:32 PM  

Newbaca: It's a shame that fiscal conservatism is just as big of a failure as social conservatism.  I really would like to see them divorced though, so that fiscal conservatives could stop hiding their failure behind the skirts of religious wackjobs.


I don't have a problem with fiscal conservatism.  I don't think the fundamental idea of keeping government spending low is a bad one.  The idea of telling the poor to go fark themselves so that the rich can keep their precious tax cuts, and slashing the safety net while overfunding the holy fark out of the military, however, is a pretty abominable one.
 
2013-04-11 01:58:51 PM  

Citrate1007: When they do, the GOP will be a force to be reckoned with.  Honestly, the conservative "greed is good" motto that gave us the '80s is waiting to happen again it is just that too many people fear the bible pounders'  god botherers agenda to allow the GOP to take the wheel again.

 
2013-04-11 02:01:44 PM  

Zerochance: OK, great, you might separate yourselves from sedentary asshole social conservatives.  You still have the "fark you I got mine" sociopath contingency weighing you down.

The GOP cannot be a viable party unless it completely reinvents itself and rebuilds from the ground up.


I suggest they come back as a Social Credit party.  Very popular 60 years ago in Canada amongst Christian Canadians in the West.

Advocate an ownership society my minimizing Government involvement in social support by (this is the counter-intuitive part) by giving every adult citizen a monthly tax-free stipend.  No eligibility.  No application. You can be employed, retired, a millionaire, poor, disabled.  Doesn't matter.

Adopt Libertarian policies on all social issues.  Make 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions a crime something equivalent to misuse of medical services.  However, robust sexual education in all schools and have paid birth control and morning after pills available to all.

Like police/fire, advocate single-payer health care for emergency care only (that's how single-payer started in Canada).
 
2013-04-11 02:24:47 PM  

MisterRonbo: jgbrowning: Jodeo: WHAT IF we replaced the two party system with something else?

You may be interested in what good 'ole New Zealand did...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-member_proportional_representatio n

Which can work in a parliamentary system, because legislators must form a majority coalition.

Sorry to burst the bubble, but a multi-party system would be a disaster for Congress.  You think you have gridlock now?  Imagine six, eight, ten parties.  Each has anywhere from 10 to fifty seats, each has its own purity tests and all the usual party bs. Try to get that many factions to agree on, say, a package of spending cuts.

You'd never get another budget passed.  Yeah, I know, not like they're getting passed now, but it would be far harder to get agreement on anything.


This would be preferable to the system we have now where only supply side economic solutions are discussed. By both sides. Which are bad.
 
2013-04-11 03:34:17 PM  

Lord_Baull: LemSkroob: While their points can be debated against, the republican party can run, and win, on its economic, international, and military policies.


Aren't you precious!


what? smaller government and spending less is something that many people get behind. grouping that with 'gays and browns are evil and woman got us thrown out of eden!" is what keeps people away.
 
2013-04-11 03:37:15 PM  

mytdawg: America - Where taxpayers give pensions and healthcare to millionaires for life to decide what to take away from taxpayers that work 6 or 7 days a week just to make ends meet so they can give tax breaks to their wealthy friends that bankrupted the country at least twice while their supporters call us lazy hippies for pointing it out.


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2013-04-11 03:47:55 PM  

Outrageous Muff: lolpix: I don't think of myself as a liberal, but I voted Green Party in the last presidential election because their ticket most aligned with my own political ideals, meanwhile voting Democrat was morally unconscionable to me, and voting for a Mitt Romney-Ayn Rand ticket was unfathomable.

No offense, but the Green Party is basically the democrats' Tea Party except they can't get elected. Plus they allowed W. into office.


Green Party is a separate party while the Tea Party is made up of off people who are registered Republican, Vote Republican and run as Republicans. Not really the same thing then is it>
 
2013-04-11 03:48:24 PM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: The Southern Logic Company: You know, I was a former Republican who ran away from the party BECAUSE of Fundies and Libertarians. There are people in this country who don't hate gays, don't want to go back to The Articles of Confederation, believe in economic conservatism, small government and some degree of social freedom. Its really awful that people like me are lumped in with the borderline bigoted actions of the "Religious Right" when I honestly would love to see them all thrown at the sun.

Democrats/Liberals, I get that the RNC has been HURR DURR for the last.....10-20 years. I've seen it, I was paying attention too. But like in a courtroom, politics in the US is an adversarial system and when the opposition party is an unorganized grabastic piece of amphibian shiat, it isn't helping anything. If the RNC could piss off the fundies enough to make them leave, Republicans can actually be a viable choice and have some good ideas if the party didn't have a bunch of hooting idiots drowning everyone out.

As much as that would be awesome, that's about as likely as everyone getting a unicorn


That's easy in North Korea!
 
2013-04-11 03:53:46 PM  

Dog Welder: The conservatives additionally expressed their anger at what they said was an insinuation that they had treated gays and lesbians unkindly.
"The fact that the party is strongly committed to traditional marriage has not prevented their involvement through GOProud or Log Cabin Republicans," they wrote. "We deeply resent the insinuation that we have treated homosexuals unkindly personally."

Except for the part where the GOP didn't allow those groups to attend CPAC, but everything's cool otherwise.

Not feeling sympathy for the GOP at this point.  They created this mess.  They cultivated this mess.  They grew this mess.  It's too bad they grew virulent, poisonous kudzu.


And it was only back in 95 or 96 when Bob Dole wouldn't even except money from the Log Cabin Republicans.
 
2013-04-11 04:34:49 PM  

Jodeo: (Or monarchy. Maybe it's time again.)


Who died and left HIM in charge?
Oh, right.
 
2013-04-11 04:37:53 PM  

bmongar: Phil Moskowitz: I still don't believe anyone named Reince Priebus actually exists. This was something made up by Russia Today to make the GOP look like twats.

Remove all the vowels from his name and it RNC PR BS  now tell me he isn't an engineered life form created with the purpose of leading the RNC


Apparently his name is also an anagram for Repub Niceries and Insecure Bi Rep.
 
2013-04-11 05:00:57 PM  
Just passing a law to ban abortion isn't going to stop abortion. You need three things :

(1) Love Education - More than sex ed, teaching how to pick a good partner, and this means talking about your own life and your own sexual mistakes (by which I mean dating / romance stories). Too many children see sex as something isolated from their 'normal' life. Chastity demands not abstention (some people are just not suited to it) but self-knowledge and integration of sex into the person-hood of the individual.

(2) Economic support for the pregnant - Give ladies in your parish a stipend to support her during her pregnancy. Unwed mothers and mothers-to-be need some kind of housing and economic viability support. They need to learn typing and how to handle basic legal documents and how to do basic accounting.

(3) Stop the protests - Protests work against politicians, not people who are making life-and-death choices. All your protests do is push people away from Jesus (or Jehovah, or Allah)

(4) Fight Oversexualization in ads - Advertisers are your real opponents. Take your protest organization energy and turn it into boycotting companies that promote promiscuity or lust in their advertisements.
 
2013-04-11 06:34:43 PM  

Outrageous Muff: Philip Francis Queeg: I'm sure you will take it as a compliment when I tell you that you are as stupid, shortsighted and counterproductive as a Tea Party member.

At least I'm a true liberal isn't of one that just pretends to be one.


Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
 
2013-04-11 06:58:01 PM  

LemSkroob: what? smaller government and spending less is something that many people get behind.


But what does that have to do with Republicans?
 
2013-04-11 07:16:11 PM  

pciszek: TalenLee: America can only be a two party system as long as you have Weeners the post voting. You shiat in your bed, you have to sleep in it.

Are there any countries that let people vote for candidates directly (as opposed to voting for a party that will choose who to put into office, later) using a voting system other than first-past-the-post?  Which countries and which systems?

I am NOT talking about the parlimentary system, since (if I understand correctly) no voter gets to vote for a specific person for Prime Minister under that system.


For senate and congress positions, you vote directly, and your president is basically a military commander who can veto shiat from the other guys. It weirds me out how the President is treated in campaign rhetoric like a king, when he very much isn't, and every time he comes close to the bounds of his power, people call it overreach.

I mean things like Instant Runoff voting, which promotes extra parties, or proportional representation, which diminishes one-party rule in small population centres. I'd also recommend (if I could), compulsory voting, but lords knows Muricans aren't down with being told what to do by the gummint.
 
2013-04-11 08:47:20 PM  

TalenLee: For senate and congress positions, you vote directly, and your president is basically a military commander who can veto shiat from the other guys. It weirds me out how the President is treated in campaign rhetoric like a king, when he very much isn't, and every time he comes close to the bounds of his power, people call it overreach.


What you describe is considered a feature, not a bug.  A king is exactly what the founders were trying to avoid.  The president performs certain functions that require a single decision-maker, such as running a war, but s/he is supposed to need the approval of congress to start one.  As head of the executive branch, s/he can do, or rather, not do, certain things unilaterally--for example, right after Tiananmen square, president George Bush the First announced that the INS would not be deporting anyone back to China for the time being, even if their visas ran out.  Similarly, Obama decided not to enforce or defend the DOMA.
 
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2013-04-12 01:47:05 PM  

Gaseous Anomaly: Ctrl-Alt-Del: Deucednuisance: lewismarktwo: populous

Is there no-one on Fark who can spell this word?

No-one who knows the difference between the adjective (populous) and the noun (populace)?

Seriously.  I have never, not once, seen it used correctly here.

It's like no-one cares to tow the line around here!

Something something for all intensive purposes

Your all good at posting interesting thing's. Tanks.


You could of been a contender, kid.
 
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