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(Washington Post)   Mitch McConnell (R-epublican) aide goes full Godwin; says the public has no right to know what politicians do to hold onto power   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 83
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2013-04-11 05:03:21 AM
That's probably the one who recorded and leaked the conversation.
 
2013-04-11 08:19:21 AM
Can not WAIT till it's found to be an insider. That, or this whole thing was a scheme to earn the persecuted empathy.
 
2013-04-11 08:30:52 AM
Self important political douchebags who like to compare their mishandling at the hands of political opponents to mistreatment by the Gestapo should be stripped naked, shaved, tattooed, and forced to spend no less than a week manacled to a wooden bunk they have to share with five other people. Only after that experience should they be allowed to return to "public life."
 
2013-04-11 08:31:01 AM

PreMortem: Can not WAIT till it's found to be an insider. That, or this whole thing was a scheme to earn the persecuted empathy.


What would be really funny is if this somehow got tied to the Obama administration.

You never go full Nixon, Obama... NEVAR
 
2013-04-11 08:47:06 AM
The greater the rhetoric, the greater the likelihood you're full of shiat.
 
2013-04-11 09:00:42 AM

PreMortem: Can not WAIT till it's found to be an insider. That, or this whole thing was a scheme to earn the persecuted empathy.


Exactly, the office could have been swept for bugs that day, it is not difficult. He was sold out by one of his own staff or this was orchestrated.
 
2013-04-11 09:02:30 AM
"(R-epublican)"?

So that's what it means?!
 
2013-04-11 09:04:08 AM

TabASlotB: "(R-epublican)"?

So that's what it means?!


(R-eally?!?)
 
2013-04-11 09:05:16 AM
This is the same senator who years ago publicly equated his taking bribes with free speech. Kentucky's voters are that god-damned stupid.
 
2013-04-11 09:07:22 AM

Vodka Zombie: TabASlotB: "(R-epublican)"?

So that's what it means?!

(R-eally?!?)


I think Subby meant to say (R-eich)
 
2013-04-11 09:09:03 AM
Of course we don't.  We're just the little people, after all.
 
2013-04-11 09:10:01 AM

Pocket Ninja: Self important political douchebags who like to compare their mishandling at the hands of political opponents to mistreatment by the Gestapo should be stripped naked, shaved, tattooed, and forced to spend no less than a week manacled to a wooden bunk they have to share with five other people. Only after that experience should they be allowed to return to "public life."


Word is McConnell actually pays for that treatment.
 
2013-04-11 09:12:16 AM
HAH.


The McConnell campaign has not yet provided any proof that the office was bugged. Benton argued that it was the only explanation.
"It was a small group, and I can say with the utmost certainty that this did not come from anyone inside our campaign," he told Huckabee. "That can only lead us to believe that this was illegally and illicitly recorded by an outside source."


Yes.  It's the ONLY explanation that the Democrats bugged your office.  It's completely IMPOSSIBLE that one of the what, three dozen people present thought McConnell was a douche and recorded it on his cell phone.
 
2013-04-11 09:15:51 AM
His standing in KY and the GOP in general is shakier than it's ever been.  Let's pretend it wasn't one of his staff members for a second - who's to say this wasn't orchestrated by a GOP primary challenger?
 
2013-04-11 09:17:45 AM

Diogenes: His standing in KY and the GOP in general is shakier than it's ever been.  Let's pretend it wasn't one of his staff members for a second - who's to say this wasn't orchestrated by a GOP primary challenger?


That's doubtful because nothing on the leaked tape would play badly with Republican primary voters. Mocking mental illness probably gains McConnell votes in the primary.
 
2013-04-11 09:27:25 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Diogenes: His standing in KY and the GOP in general is shakier than it's ever been.  Let's pretend it wasn't one of his staff members for a second - who's to say this wasn't orchestrated by a GOP primary challenger?

That's doubtful because nothing on the leaked tape would play badly with Republican primary voters. Mocking mental illness probably gains McConnell votes in the primary.


I'm really not proposing that's what actually happened.  But it is conceivable that Turtleman has enemies who aren't liberals or Democrats.

If that's what really happened here, it would be a clever way of hobbling McConnell without anyone ever suspecting you.  Mud is mud.  Why leave a fingerprint?

I should look up to see who his announced/potential GOP challengers are.  Just out of curiosity.
 
2013-04-11 09:32:27 AM
 
2013-04-11 09:34:40 AM

Pocket Ninja: Self important political douchebags who like to compare their mishandling at the hands of political opponents to mistreatment by the Gestapo should be stripped naked, shaved, tattooed, and forced to spend no less than a week manacled to a wooden bunk they have to share with five other people men. Only after that experience should they be allowed to return to "public life."


FTFRepublicans

/Fap
 
2013-04-11 09:34:49 AM
The staffer who did this might as well hire an agent and cash in now, the dinner bell won't ring forever.
 
2013-04-11 10:00:47 AM
Like clockwork:

1. GOPer running for Congressional seat.
2. Spit out POV that's against the grain.
3. No remorse over it
4. Democrats profit on Election Day

I mean, LOL, calling these guys "clownshoes" at this point would be insult to clownshoes.
 
2013-04-11 10:26:25 AM

Satanic_Hamster: HAH.


The McConnell campaign has not yet provided any proof that the office was bugged. Benton argued that it was the only explanation.
"It was a small group, and I can say with the utmost certainty that this did not come from anyone inside our campaign," he told Huckabee. "That can only lead us to believe that this was illegally and illicitly recorded by an outside source."


Yes.  It's the ONLY explanation that the Democrats bugged your office.  It's completely IMPOSSIBLE that one of the what, three dozen people present thought McConnell was a douche and recorded it on his cell phone.


Pretty much my reaction too.
 
2013-04-11 10:27:14 AM
Somehow I doubt this fellow felt the same way about that ACORN video that blew the organization up a few years ago.
 
2013-04-11 10:39:08 AM
"If McConnell chooses to remain silent on this matter and tolerate this offensive rhetoric, it will be disrespectful to those who were murdered and abused by the actual Gestapo,"

I don't know why...
 
2013-04-11 10:40:33 AM

Pocket Ninja: Self important political douchebags who like to compare their mishandling at the hands of political opponents to mistreatment by the Gestapo should be stripped naked, shaved, tattooed, and forced to spend no less than a week manacled to a wooden bunk they have to share with five other people. Only after that experience should they be allowed to return to "public life."


maybe on the forehead?
 
2013-04-11 10:58:18 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com

I meet Gestapo tactics. That's not right.
 
2013-04-11 10:59:43 AM
I can't imagine it's a bug. I mean, why reveal it now? It's not like this is a super juicy re-election killing story, so why leak it and have it discovered you've bugged his office when waiting gives you the chance to perhaps pick up on something that would kill his chances.

I'll concede it could be that the Tea Party bugged his office. They don't seem to have the intelligence or subtlety to play the long game on covert intelligence gathering.
 
2013-04-11 11:07:17 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: xanadian: You never go full Nixon

Hunt and Liddy recommended a "covert operation" to get a "mother lode" of information about Ellsberg's mental state in order to discredit him.


The Pentagon Papers case is far more interesting than most people realize.  I think it's more so than Watergate.
 
2013-04-11 11:08:10 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if there was more inflammatory material on the recording that wasn't leaked.  Once they find out who did the leaking, that person will probably leak really damaging stuff.
 
2013-04-11 11:12:12 AM
The office in question is in Kentucky, it's completely under the physical control of McConnell's staff (and I would assume an armed guard to two).   They had the premises swept for "bugs" immediately upon finding out about the recording (which was 7-10 days BEFORE Mother Jones released the story), according to a McConnell spokesman.

So, there OWN investigation turned up zero evidence that the room was wiretapped, but that's the story they decided to run with?

They have succeeded!  They have successfully changed the public narrative from "Geez, McConnell and his crew, is there anything they won't do, any level they won't stoop, in order to win an election?;" to "Geez, some lousy liberal "bugged" McConnell's office and Mother Jones ILLEGALLY released its contents."  Even though there is absolutely no evidence anything in the second narrative even bears a passing resemblance to the truth.

My biggest hope at this time is that someone (David Corn) will look into the exact day and time of the meeting and develop all kinds of evidence that the meeting was populated with McConnell staff who by law are not supposed to be involved in campaign activities on "official" government business.  My guess is that quite a few of them will probably fill that bill and McConnell will end up having to explain to the Senate Ethic's Committee about that illegal behavior.
 
2013-04-11 11:14:34 AM
I wanna fight that aide and NJDC Executive Director Aaron Keyak. STFU, ya farking ninnies
 
2013-04-11 11:26:25 AM
Ockham's Razor tells me it was someone in the room with a cellphone, and not a bug that someone, somehow, managed to plant in the office.
 
2013-04-11 11:32:01 AM

lawboy87: The office in question is in Kentucky, it's completely under the physical control of McConnell's staff (and I would assume an armed guard to two).   They had the premises swept for "bugs" immediately upon finding out about the recording (which was 7-10 days BEFORE Mother Jones released the story), according to a McConnell spokesman.

So, there OWN investigation turned up zero evidence that the room was wiretapped, but that's the story they decided to run with?

They have succeeded!  They have successfully changed the public narrative from "Geez, McConnell and his crew, is there anything they won't do, any level they won't stoop, in order to win an election?;" to "Geez, some lousy liberal "bugged" McConnell's office and Mother Jones ILLEGALLY released its contents."  Even though there is absolutely no evidence anything in the second narrative even bears a passing resemblance to the truth.

My biggest hope at this time is that someone (David Corn) will look into the exact day and time of the meeting and develop all kinds of evidence that the meeting was populated with McConnell staff who by law are not supposed to be involved in campaign activities on "official" government business.  My guess is that quite a few of them will probably fill that bill and McConnell will end up having to explain to the Senate Ethic's Committee about that illegal behavior.


I don't think they have changed the narrative as much as they are flailing desperately.  If the liberal MSM manestream media is to believed, this thing is out of Mitch's control.  Bad Press is a very real concept in Politics.
 
2013-04-11 11:35:56 AM

Pocket Ninja: Self important political douchebags who like to compare their mishandling at the hands of political opponents to mistreatment by the Gestapo should be stripped naked, shaved, tattooed, and forced to spend no less than a week manacled to a wooden bunk they have to share with five other people. Only after that experience should they be allowed to return to "public life."


this seeems angrier and more disconnected from the point than the usual cut of your jib.
 
2013-04-11 11:36:59 AM
Well, if this is no big deal to you, then can we please have insider recordings from all of the strategy meetings during the Obama 2012 campaign? I am sure he said lovely things about the opposition at all times, had no real plans at all to derail the Republican campaign or do anything sneaky or underhanded.

What I find hilarious is that there really is nothing damaging here. McConnell and his staffers talked about Ashley Judd and what she has said about herself in interviews. Oooh, big scandal!  McConnell is so mean. LOL.

What I do find sad is that the liberal press and the liberals on this site are focusing on McConnell and not the fact that he was illegally taped. Doesn't matter if it was a staffer...it is illegal according to Kentucky law. And that is okay with the liberals if it is a conservative target.  I see. Well, isn't that a tad hypocritical?
 
2013-04-11 11:37:18 AM

PsyLord: I wouldn't be surprised if there was more inflammatory material on the recording that wasn't leaked.  Once they find out who did the leaking, that person will probably leak really damaging stuff.


Could be.  If that's the case, I'd think Mitch would be visibly shiatting his drawers and trying to suppress any talk of the recording.

Then again, this is a Kentucky Republican, so...  who knows?
 
2013-04-11 11:40:09 AM
Ah yes the fiendishly cruel Gestapo, know for such heinous acts as "Making Recordings of Idiots".
 
2013-04-11 11:41:17 AM

k1j2b3: Doesn't matter if it was a staffer...it is illegal according to Kentucky law.


Wrong.
 
2013-04-11 11:58:36 AM

k1j2b3: What I do find sad is that the liberal press and the liberals on this site are focusing on McConnell and not the fact that he was illegally taped. Doesn't matter if it was a staffer...it is illegal according to Kentucky law.


FYI to any casual observers: If the Republican at the meeting recorded this, they violated no Kentucky law. k1j2b3 is lying, and for some reason trying to say a Republican broke the law, and Democrats are sad for ignoring that fact.
 
2013-04-11 12:08:59 PM
...says a guy who was party to a plan to politically discredit someone based on their mental health and religion...
 
2013-04-11 12:09:20 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: k1j2b3: Doesn't matter if it was a staffer...it is illegal according to Kentucky law.

Wrong.


depends
 
2013-04-11 12:15:03 PM

HighOnCraic: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 320x136]

I meet Gestapo tactics. That's not right.


Will you get out of here.  Will you get out of here.  Will you.  I'm trying to run an office here.  Will you go to lunch?  Go to lunch. Will you go to lunch?
 
2013-04-11 12:17:16 PM

skullkrusher: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: k1j2b3: Doesn't matter if it was a staffer...it is illegal according to Kentucky law.

Wrong.

depends


No. It doesn't depend.

Kentucky law is a 1 person approval state. If 1 person (the person who is recording) approves of being recorded and is in the room, its legal.

It would only be legal if someone were to plant a listening device and not be present.
 
2013-04-11 12:21:16 PM

k1j2b3: Well, if this is no big deal to you, then can we please have insider recordings from all of the strategy meetings during the Obama 2012 campaign? I am sure he said lovely things about the opposition at all times, had no real plans at all to derail the Republican campaign or do anything sneaky or underhanded.

What I find hilarious is that there really is nothing damaging here. McConnell and his staffers talked about Ashley Judd and what she has said about herself in interviews. Oooh, big scandal!  McConnell is so mean. LOL.

What I do find sad is that the liberal press and the liberals on this site are focusing on McConnell and not the fact that he was illegally taped. Doesn't matter if it was a staffer...it is illegal according to Kentucky law. And that is okay with the liberals if it is a conservative target.  I see. Well, isn't that a tad hypocritical?


If lamestream media is liberal and FOX News is the biggest lamestreamer.. that means FOX News is liberal!
 
2013-04-11 12:26:06 PM

Vodka Zombie: PsyLord: I wouldn't be surprised if there was more inflammatory material on the recording that wasn't leaked.  Once they find out who did the leaking, that person will probably leak really damaging stuff.

Could be.  If that's the case, I'd think Mitch would be visibly shiatting his drawers and trying to suppress any talk of the recording.

Then again, this is a Kentucky Republican, so...  who knows?


That's probably why he's going with the it being an illegal recording.  If so, then the person would be barred from revealing the really nasty stuff.  But this has the problem of backfiring on McConnell since if the source is revealed and they determined that it was in fact legal, then the person might release the hounds on McConnell.
 
2013-04-11 12:28:31 PM

Farkin_Crazy: skullkrusher: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: k1j2b3: Doesn't matter if it was a staffer...it is illegal according to Kentucky law.

Wrong.

depends

No. It doesn't depend.

Kentucky law is a 1 person approval state. If 1 person (the person who is recording) approves of being recorded and is in the room, its legal.

It would only be legal if someone were to plant a listening device and not be present.


Yeah, it does. The 1 person approving the recording must actually take part in the conversation. So, if the staffer was in there putting together an email for the distro list while this conversation was happening and turned on his iPhone recorder but didn't actually take part in the conversation, then it is illegal.
 
2013-04-11 12:39:16 PM
images.barnesandnoble.com

We already know; some of us anyway.
 
Bf+
2013-04-11 12:56:44 PM
Mitch McConnell's aide followed up by saying "This is literally a thousand times worse than the holocaust, 9/11, and the cancellation of Firefly, combined."
 
2013-04-11 01:00:33 PM

monoski: or this was orchestrated.


You give Republicans waaaayyyy too much credit here.
 
2013-04-11 01:02:30 PM
It could always be an Oompa Loompa commando raid to take down the rivals of Boehner. You would think they would have heard the singing though.
 
2013-04-11 01:20:00 PM

Bf+: Mitch McConnell's aide followed up by saying "This is literally a thousand times worse than the holocaust, 9/11, and the cancellation of Firefly, combined."


The inclusion of the bolded item renders the statement hyperbolic.
 
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