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(Daily Mail)   Exhausted, sleep deprived mother of premature twins lashes out at "Breastapo" for making her feel guilty, selfish and lazy for supplementing formula for breastmilk   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 248
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2013-04-11 01:58:55 PM  
The douchey assholes among us commonly offer unsolicited criticism a/o advice to others, and women in particular take malicious pleasure in making other women feel like shiat.

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2013-04-11 01:59:19 PM  

mesmer242: kiwimoogle84: CapeFearCadaver: kiwimoogle84: she

CSS- I was actually told the other day that I shouldn't have my baby shower too far in advance from my due date, in case she dies after the shower in utero, so it's "not embarrassing" and "gifts don't go to waste." I was absolutely appalled. This was a family friend I was inviting to said shower. I screamed how effing dare you right in her ear and hung up on her. Worst thing I ever heard in my life.

/endrant

Oh, dude. That's not a family friend, that's a family frenemy. I'm glad you used your pregnancy hormones for their intended purpose.

/also knocked up
//so glad I don't have to suffer through a baby shower this time around


Another MIL story: my BIL and his wife were living on the opposite coast when the first nephew was conceived/born. They got married because of babby, so they did it on the quick, so MIL hosted a reception in the PNW for them. SIL was not even 20 weeks along yet (she might have still been in her first trimester!) and MIL decided she must host a baby shower too, since none of the local family would be on the opposite coast for the baby shower/birth of the baby. She actually told her new DIL, a pregnant woman she'd spent less than a week with the year prior to the shotgun wedding, that MIL could hold the baby gifts for a while, in case, you know, the pregnancy didn't go to term.

Then, at the baby shower, FIL called the expecting mom fat. This happened AFTER he asked one of his nieces at Christmas (the first one after she went to college) if it was a Freshman 15 or was it more like 20? Tact. Its sooooo 20 years ago!
 
2013-04-11 02:03:57 PM  

orbister: It beats me why anyone who could breast feed would chose formula. Breast is free and there's no faffing about with sterilisation, carrying stuff around, getting supplies and so on. That said, there are lots of perfectly good reasons for not being able to breast feed, and in those cases you're hardly going to let the kid starve to death.


I know our case is not the norm but our daughter was 2 months early at 3lbs 6ozs so mom's milk hadn't come in yet and never did come in.
We had to rely on a special formula that was very expensive and was not easily found in stores.
But all these years late our daughter is healthy, active and very bright.

/preeclampsia sucks
 
2013-04-11 02:05:13 PM  

mesmer242: kiwimoogle84: CapeFearCadaver: kiwimoogle84: she

CSS- I was actually told the other day that I shouldn't have my baby shower too far in advance from my due date, in case she dies after the shower in utero, so it's "not embarrassing" and "gifts don't go to waste." I was absolutely appalled. This was a family friend I was inviting to said shower. I screamed how effing dare you right in her ear and hung up on her. Worst thing I ever heard in my life.

/endrant

Oh, dude. That's not a family friend, that's a family frenemy. I'm glad you used your pregnancy hormones for their intended purpose.

/also knocked up
//so glad I don't have to suffer through a baby shower this time around


I'm having two- a fun party with my sacrilegious friends, and a separate monotonous one for the Mormon relatives and stuffy adults. First kid though, so I'm not going to turn down showers and gifts. Congrats to you too!

This lady is so never coming into my presence ever again if I can help it. She's the kind of woman who would walk up to you and say something like "I see you have horrible acne, I can suggest products to help." You just DON'T SAY CRAP LIKE THAT. Something in her brain is broken.

And yeah, I kind of see her screwed up logic since she had a stillborn once, but I seriously wish I had the presence of mind to say "well then don't send your kid to school with a lunch tomorrow, because he could be run over by a bus and you don't want that lunch going to waste!"

/why do people suck
 
2013-04-11 02:14:34 PM  

kiwimoogle84:

And yeah, I kind of see her screwed up logic since she had a stillborn once,


how embarrassing

/had to
//sad sh*t
 
2013-04-11 02:15:40 PM  

kiwimoogle84: And yeah, I kind of see her screwed up logic since she had a stillborn once, but I seriously wish I had the presence of mind to say "well then don't send your kid to school with a lunch tomorrow, because he could be run over by a bus and you don't want that lunch going to waste!"

/why do people suck


If I'd thought of a comeback that sharp, I'd have called back.
 
2013-04-11 02:21:01 PM  

ampoliros: When the wife had the boy, she tried and tried to breastfeed, she put that boy on her 24/7 it seemed like. When she wasn't feeding, she was trying to pump. In the end, she just couldn't make any real volume and he wasn't interested (even the "breastapo" couldn't make it work). Less than 1 month in we went from supplementing with formula to straight up formula.

The boy is now 10+ months old, healthier than any kid ever, active as hell, 90% on all the charts, sleeps through the night, plays gently with the cats, is eating big boy food by himself, and is totally happy all the time.

Whatever benefits breastfeeding has over formula are nothing compared to what even slightly more involved parenting can bring to the table.


Holy cow, we are living parallel lives.  Ditto to everything you said down to current baby age, stats, behavior and time on the boob.  Due to breast cancer, only one of my boobs is still functional and it couldn't keep up with the munchkin's monster appetite so I threw in the boob at 5 weeks and went full formula.  After seeing how much he thrived on the artificial stuff I quickly got over any guilt I had.  He is completely healthy, happy and hitting every developmental milestone on time or early.
 
2013-04-11 02:22:13 PM  

busy chillin': kiwimoogle84:

And yeah, I kind of see her screwed up logic since she had a stillborn once,

how embarrassing

/had to
//sad sh*t


People who have had stillborn babies can recover their faculties. The wife of my childhood friend is exceedingly graceful and kind after having lost their baby. People seemed incapable of not saying the most heinous things to her though. Like when she started packing up the nursery, "wer'e having a girl too, so we can take some of the nursery stuff off your hands!" Thankfully, the man she married is as sharp as a tack and handled some of the stupidity while his wife got help with her grief. I think it was therapeutic for him to tell people to fark off.
 
2013-04-11 02:31:08 PM  

ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: kiwimoogle84: And yeah, I kind of see her screwed up logic since she had a stillborn once, but I seriously wish I had the presence of mind to say "well then don't send your kid to school with a lunch tomorrow, because he could be run over by a bus and you don't want that lunch going to waste!"

/why do people suck

If I'd thought of a comeback that sharp, I'd have called back.


I didn't think of it until later, sadly.

And my god. LARTs. All of them. Right to the cranium.

*for those unaware, a LART is a loser attitude readjustment tool.

/2x4
 
2013-04-11 02:41:23 PM  
Then I got smart. I bought a super hop-bombed IPA, poured myself a glass, and waited. Sure enough, the kid swiped my glass and took himself a huge drink. I was able to grab the glass before he dropped it, and the look of betrayal on his face was priceless. It broke him of that behavior, immediately.
You know, you took a big risk. By age 8, the poor kid could be living in Portland, growing a full beard, driving a VW Golf, playing fretless in a garage band, dating some chick who doesn't shave her legs, and working as a php programmer at some startup. Is that what you want for your son?
 
2013-04-11 02:45:42 PM  

shortymac: You know, it makes me wonder why wet-nurses haven't come back in style yet amongst the Yuppie types or buying frozen breast milk from friends.


Buying frozen breastmilk is actually a thing.  I seem to remember it being like $200/pint though.  Mostly because the types to buy that stuff are also the types to demand an organic diet from the seller.
 
2013-04-11 02:48:22 PM  

kiwimoogle84: ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: kiwimoogle84: And yeah, I kind of see her screwed up logic since she had a stillborn once, but I seriously wish I had the presence of mind to say "well then don't send your kid to school with a lunch tomorrow, because he could be run over by a bus and you don't want that lunch going to waste!"

/why do people suck

If I'd thought of a comeback that sharp, I'd have called back.

I didn't think of it until later, sadly.

And my god. LARTs. All of them. Right to the cranium.

*for those unaware, a LART is a loser attitude readjustment tool.

/2x4


Days, weeks, months later? I'd still call back. "Listen, I was thinking about the thing you said about my baby shower and I think maybe you should not pack your son's lunch tomorrow, you never know what could happen on his way to school, before he trades that lunch for candy and chips. It might be completely wasted!"
 
2013-04-11 02:53:20 PM  

MeanJean: Why? Why is it okay to berate overweight people but not non-breastfeeding mothers?


Because fat people are disgusting, obviously. Don't believe me? Try a GIS on "fat person" and then a GIS on "non-breastfeeding mother"
 
2013-04-11 02:55:31 PM  
For those of you who are like me and will soon be a first time parent, and you plan on breastfeeding, many insurance companies will actually offer a good breast pump for free/cheap.   We're getting a $300 Medela for free.  Thanks Obamacare!
 
2013-04-11 03:34:08 PM  
I breastfed both of my children (in public, oh nos!). One for 13 months, the other for 8 months then I switched to formula for 4 months. No one ever gave my crap. I never gave anyone else crap. I dont care. No one else should care.
 
2013-04-11 03:49:29 PM  
I'm guessing the Central Florida Walmart in question is either Palm Bay or Titusville.

My April Fools baby decided to come 3 weeks early. She had a great latch, but not a strong enough suck. She was borderline jaundiced and had started to lose too much weight in her first 3 days of life, so the doc said supplement or she's probably going back to the hospital for a few days. Supplement we did and she got better. She was a half and half baby for 3 months, and then 75% formula for 2 more, until my supply became completely dead. I never really got in a good supply and completely lost it when I returned to work (and as a waitress there's really not much time to pump). She is now a little over year and completely healthy and hitting all her milestones. She's had one bad cold and one little case of sniffles and that's it (knock on wood).

When I went to talk to my (wonderful) lactation consultant (provided through WIC), my daughter was 5 days old and we were dealing with all these problems, so I asked if there was an electric pump available. She called in her boss, who was sick with a cold and so stood outside the door shouting at me about how I shouldn't be giving her a bottle because she won't want to go back to the nipple and other Boob Nazi things. We had just gotten home from the hospital 2 days prior, we were first time parents doing what we thought was best for our kid's health, and here was this woman berating me. I promptly burst into tears when she left and the woman got reprimanded by HER boss. Still, it made me feel so guilty and it took a while to get over that guilt.

I'm glad she's eating big girl food and I don't get asked the breast feeding question anymore. I would answer honestly but with as much booby bodily function detail as possible, since, ya know, they asked. Little old ladies would squirm.
 
2013-04-11 03:52:16 PM  

Firethorn: shortymac: You know, it makes me wonder why wet-nurses haven't come back in style yet amongst the Yuppie types or buying frozen breast milk from friends.

Buying frozen breastmilk is actually a thing.  I seem to remember it being like $200/pint though.  Mostly because the types to buy that stuff are also the types to demand an organic diet from the seller.


People will BUY this for 200/pint!!!!!!

Can someone start nursing even if they never had a kid????? A those prices I can pay off my student loans in a few months!

/Might pull a south park "Cherokee Hair Tampons" and get some mexicans
 
2013-04-11 04:05:34 PM  

trackerbri: When I went out with my wife after the second one was born and something like this would come up we'd settled on the quiet stare (since "STFU and get out of here!" is problematic once you have a kid).  We just stopped talking to each other and just stare at the person with a vaguely annoyed look, saying nothing and not answering any questions.  Just treat them like you saw a strange bug or something.  They'll scurry off soon enough.

Parenting advice about our oldest (3 year old boy) now gets met with "We've been looking for a babysitter for Friday night, obviously you're very knowledgeable, do you have a card or something?"  I swear you can almost see the cartoon dust cloud as they turn tail and run.  He's not a bad kid, but he's three, high energy, and a boy so he can be a bit hard to deal with at times.


That's awesome on both counts. I wonder if they learn their lesson or not after that. The latter gives me a great idea when I encounter that.

The annoying thing is there're so many people that come up all cheery and complement on how cute and well behaved she is, then half of them start getting nosy. Really don't know which way it's going to go. Just pay the complement if you must and stick to your business. Then there are the weirdos...

CSB:
I was unfortunately not present for this, but I really wish I was there to witness this. My MIL had our kid out in public. Some lady came up all weepy saying how beautiful she was and if she could hold her. Thankfully my MIL has a good head on her shoulders (unlike my mother) and deflected the request while holding my daughter in a bit more protectively.

Honestly people. Don't touch my kid unless you get permission. I don't know what plague you're carrying around that she hasn't been vaccinated for and you obviously don't understand how lethal pertussis can be. I don't go up to you randomly to tickle one of your extremities, pinch your cheek, and/or try and pass a disease. Maybe I should make that into a shirt.
 
2013-04-11 04:07:30 PM  
When I had both my podlings I tried to breastfeed.  Turns out I had a higher than expected rate of milkflow.  Nearly drowned the little buggers.  So I ended up pumping and bottle feeding the expressed milk to both of them.  I was the anti-christ to the boob police.  I got harassed constantly that I was doing it wrong and that because my kids weren't getting the milk straight from the tap that they'd somehow end up retarded with 4 arms and 2 heads.

And this is one of the reasons that I will never, ever have more kids.
 
2013-04-11 04:09:17 PM  
I breastfed for just over 3 months, but then my daughter weaned herself because she just couldn't get enough food in her. We didn't know at the time she had cystic fibrosis (she wasn't diagnosed until she was nine years old), and she had a very difficult time breathing and sucking as her nose was completely plugged. It is much harder to get milk out of a nipple than it is to get out of a bottle, and a lot of the time she would get exhausted and fall asleep before she got enough food. She finally fussed so much that I tried supplementing with a bottle and she was able to get enough milk out of it fast enough so she got full before she fell asleep, sometime she didn't fall asleep at all because sucking from the bottle was so much easier for her.

I myself ended up being a bottle-baby because my mother couldn't make enough milk for me, and I ended up getting sick on the formulas at the time, became a "failure to thrive" baby, until I was switched to soy formula (which was unusual back then) because I had such bad lactose intolerance. Still do.\

Anyway, breast is best, but there are hundreds of reasons why people can't breastfeed and that decision should be left to the parents and their health providers. Sheesh, why is this even an issue?
 
2013-04-11 04:20:04 PM  
I'd love to twat-slap the hatchet-faced crones who gave my wife hell when she was trying to breast feed. She just couldn't produce enough, so had to use formula, and the evil snippy twunts got all self-righteous and passive-aggressive around her.

I once silently wished that one lady's kid would die - it was that bad.
 
2013-04-11 04:20:18 PM  

hockeychick: When I had both my podlings I tried to breastfeed.  Turns out I had a higher than expected rate of milkflow.  Nearly drowned the little buggers.  So I ended up pumping and bottle feeding the expressed milk to both of them.  I was the anti-christ to the boob police.  I got harassed constantly that I was doing it wrong and that because my kids weren't getting the milk straight from the tap that they'd somehow end up retarded with 4 arms and 2 heads.

And this is one of the reasons that I will never, ever have more kids.


Reminds me of my sister- and the joys I possibly have to look forward to. She had to pump for a minute before directly feeding her kids. I swear I tried not to laugh when she squirted one of them in the eye. I have so much to apologize to her for now that I'm due in a few months myself.
 
2013-04-11 04:27:13 PM  
Wow I am shocked at all these stories about busybodies coming up to people and harassing them. I guess I was lucky.

When you're a parent, everything you do is wrong (in someone's opinion).

/ breastfeeding is great
// so is formula
/// did both
 
2013-04-11 04:32:07 PM  
It's definitely a good idea to rag on other women about their life choices that have nothing to do with you.

And it's good practice for when you go home and rag on your husband and kids about every little thing.
 
2013-04-11 04:40:55 PM  
No mention of Bloomberg yet?
 
2013-04-11 04:56:32 PM  
Goodness, from this whole thread I'm beginning to think women can easily breastfeed their baby and do are now the evil biatches for making other moms angry. They probably should hide their narcissistic creepy habit and leave formula containers about to help cover it up. They just do it to act better than other women.

Lets not even get started on the ones whose breasts never got saggy afterwards or developed horrible deformed nipples (you know how breastfeeding usually makes them look like badgers chewed on them.)
 
2013-04-11 05:09:57 PM  

FunkOut: Goodness, from this whole thread I'm beginning to think women can easily breastfeed their baby and do are now the evil biatches for making other moms angry. They probably should hide their narcissistic creepy habit and leave formula containers about to help cover it up. They just do it to act better than other women.

Lets not even get started on the ones whose breasts never got saggy afterwards or developed horrible deformed nipples (you know how breastfeeding usually makes them look like badgers chewed on them.)


Thank you for that visual of what I have to look forward to in a few months.
 
2013-04-11 05:13:25 PM  
I don't understand why people feel the need to come up with some long, expository comeback for these assholes. Seems like a simple, "Mind your own farking business" will suffice.

That's really the only explanation they deserve. You're a grownup. You don't have to explain yourself to other grownups.
 
2013-04-11 05:19:59 PM  
Orbister

Because fat people are disgusting, obviously. Don't believe me? Try a GIS on "fat person" and then a GIS on "non-breastfeeding mother"

A lot of non-breastfeeding mothers can't help not breastfeeding due to medical conditions. Some fat people (not all, but many) can't help being fat due to various conditions, like polycystic ovarian syndrome, thyroid disease, and so forth.

My point is, whether you personally find it disgusting or not is irrelevant. You shouldn't pick on someone for being fat because there might be a whole host of medical problems making them fat that you don't know about, and they might not be able to help it, just like some non-breastfeeding mothers may not be able to breastfeed. So who the fark are you to judge anyone?

To put it another way, mind your own farking business about other people's bodies.
 
2013-04-11 05:23:52 PM  

kiwimoogle84: FunkOut: Goodness, from this whole thread I'm beginning to think women can easily breastfeed their baby and do are now the evil biatches for making other moms angry. They probably should hide their narcissistic creepy habit and leave formula containers about to help cover it up. They just do it to act better than other women.

Lets not even get started on the ones whose breasts never got saggy afterwards or developed horrible deformed nipples (you know how breastfeeding usually makes them look like badgers chewed on them.)

Thank you for that visual of what I have to look forward to in a few months.


I chortle in a quiet cube farm.

The problem is experts have deemed one way ideal and another adequate. Not everyone can do things the ideal way but its not like people can just change their reality. It shouldn't be so divisive. Women just don't seem predisposed to being kind and supportive to one another. Its competition. I don't look forward to that part of motherhood at all.
 
2013-04-11 05:57:05 PM  

MeanJean: You shouldn't pick on someone for being fat because there might be a whole host of medical problems making them fat that you don't know about, and they might not be able to help it, just like some non-breastfeeding mothers may not be able to breastfeed. So who the fark are you to judge anyone?

To put it another way, mind your own farking business about other people's bodies.


Could you move a little to one side? I'm trying to see the thread. Thanks.
 
2013-04-11 07:07:31 PM  
Orbister

Why haven't I blocked you yet? Oh well. Problem remedied.
 
2013-04-11 07:11:52 PM  

HortusMatris: [farm9.staticflickr.com image 374x500]


i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-04-11 07:43:34 PM  
I breastfed both kids (now 19 and 17, respectively) but had to stop and supplement with formula on my first.  We had Rh incompatibility issues that surfaced at birth (I'm Rh+, he was Rh-) and the lactation consultant told me to stop BFing and just pump out the milk.

We're supposed to be a tolerant society; why can't we simply respect each other's choices (breast or bottle) and leave it at that?
 
2013-04-11 08:42:15 PM  

Galileo's Daughter: We're supposed to be a tolerant society; why can't we simply respect each other's choices (breast or bottle) and leave it at that?


Because, sadly, we're not a tolerant society.
 
2013-04-11 08:43:03 PM  

Burr: My wife was relieved that both kids could be breast fed.  They were for 6 months then it was on to the formula.  My son had two top and two bottom teeth by that time (and they were opposite of each other...ouch) and my daughter, being the curly redheaded child she is, was violent about feeding (punching, pinching, twisting, etc..), so it was extra incentive to cut them off.

We were done with formula for both after a year (moved onto whole milk in sippy cups).

Yeah, anybody who goes out of their way to force their views on you without getting the whole story are assholes. Some people can't produce milk, and they are usually depressed about it to begin with, without you coming along and acting all high and mighty and reminding them that they can't produce milk.

On the other hand, I did know a few parents who used formula because they were lazy.  In one case, its because she didn't want to "have disfigured nipples".

/she had more problems then that
//poor kid never had a chance


FTFY.

Unless you are my child, you don't get to demand an explanation for the choices I make for said child.

My children are grown but I shudder to think what kind of reception some nosy busybody would have received from my poor, sleep-deprived self by questioning why I bottle fed my kids.  What the fark is wrong with some of you people?  When did it become acceptable to question a mother's choices for her children?
 
2013-04-11 08:51:09 PM  

shortymac: Can someone start nursing even if they never had a kid????? A those prices I can pay off my student loans in a few months!


I've heard it's possible, but can be difficult.  You'd have to put a breast pump on multiple times a day, probably for months, and hope that you get lucky with your genetic and physical conditions being such for easy lactation.

Now I'm reminded of the story about Judith Waterford, a wet nurse in the 1800's.  She was still producing milk on her 81st birthday, and during her prime produced 2 quarts a day.
 
2013-04-11 09:44:17 PM  
I'm going to have to tell  my sister about "Breastapo" , she usually just calls them tit nazi's.  Funny thing is that she used to be really be into that whole crunchy mom thing, to the point of being a self righteous twat about it sometimes.  Her eldest was breastfed until almost 2 when she self-weened.  Kid number, totally planning on the same, but he was born with Classic Galactosemia.   This disorder means that my nephew cannot have anything galactose, including breast milk.  It's amazing how having a rare disorder in your child will let a mother see who are really her friends.  Overnight she became a pariah even though everyone understood she couldn't breastfed him.  It's just that nobody though she should be out in public, especially with them and bottling feeding "because it will confuse people".  Mom's that had children who were friends with her daughter didn't want them playing together either for the same reason, because it would set a bad example for their young daughters.  Worst one was the leader of her mother's group who though that "sometimes nature needs to take its course with these thing", IE breastfed him and if he becomes mentally disabled or dies, so be it.  Luckily she made new friends that were not judgement helicopter mom and took the stick out of her ass.  Kid number 3 was breastfed, but my sister now takes motherhood as a "judge not lest you be judged" viewpoint.

/still would gladly except my old annoying sister back if it mean my nephew didn't have his disorder
//it farken sucks.
 
2013-04-11 10:41:44 PM  

what_now: Cybernetic: what_now: When I was in a Wal Mart in Central Florida (let that sink in for a while) a woman with three filthy children started talking to me. My friend, who was one of those "Awww...babies" types, asked how old the littlest one was. Answer. 8 months. I asked what was in the bottle. Answer: root beer.

So you know. Worse thinks that formula

Just out of curiosity, do you remember where the Walmart was?

/Central Floridian.

Ocala.


You went to Ocala on purpose? Were you buying a horse? It's the only thing I can think of to do in Ocala.
 
2013-04-12 01:27:27 AM  

TeaEarlGreyHot: Then I got smart. I bought a super hop-bombed IPA, poured myself a glass, and waited. Sure enough, the kid swiped my glass and took himself a huge drink. I was able to grab the glass before he dropped it, and the look of betrayal on his face was priceless. It broke him of that behavior, immediately.
You know, you took a big risk. By age 8, the poor kid could be living in Portland, growing a full beard, driving a VW Golf, playing fretless in a garage band, dating some chick who doesn't shave her legs, and working as a php programmer at some startup. Is that what you want for your son?


So what's wrong with that? his son's wife will most definitely breastfeed.

/PDX native
 
2013-04-12 03:14:04 AM  

octopied: not choosing formula, she's breastfeeding but using formula for the couple night feeds so her husband can do them because small babies eat all the time.

I don't know where this huge brigade of net nannies or whatever she's finding is coming from


She's not making this up or being a drama queen.  Those La Leche dirtbags harassed my sister daily in hospital, to the point of tears.  They made her feel like a bad mother because breast feeding was extremely difficult for her.  Then you cop it repeatedly from the Plunket nurses.  So now a lot of mothers are lying to the very people who are supposed to help them maintain the health of their babies, because they don't want another lecture about something they already know and have made a choice about.

It's gotten so ridiculous there was a lovely anti-smoking ad here in NZ featuring a rugby player feeding his baby.  This was a good message because it was about smoking being bad for your kids, showing a famous, very masculine, non-white father looking after his baby.  Awesome.

Until a kerfuffle was made about how it was wrong to show him bottle-feeding because it sets a bad example for Maori, who have low compliance with breast feeding.  Just.  Gah!  As if lack of breastfeeding was the biggest problem in the communities they were trying to reach with that message.
 
2013-04-12 08:31:44 AM  

MeanJean: Why haven't I blocked you yet?


I used a couple of mirrors to see round you. Gravitational lensing was an issue, but I fixed that in software,
 
2013-04-12 08:36:15 AM  

Galileo's Daughter: We're supposed to be a tolerant society; why can't we simply respect each other's choices (breast or bottle) and leave it at that?


Because there are too many other emotions involved. Bringing up a kid is a mind blowing responsibility for which most of us are aware that e have no training whatsoever. There is therefore a natural tendency to get defensive about one's own decisions and hostile towards other people's different decisions.

There is also the sexual aspect. While the general tenor of this thread has been "Meh. Do what you want and what works." just see what happens when a breastfeeding in public thread comes up. Instantly hordes of farkers, almost all male, start whining about it along the lines of "I like boobies. Boobies exist for my sexual gratification. I don't want to see boobies used in any other way."
 
2013-04-12 08:38:12 AM  

SarcasticFark: When did it become acceptable to question a mother's choices for her children?


When we started to think that children had a right not to be abused. Of course a choice of bottle feeding isn't by any stretch of the imagination abuse, but some choices made by parents are quite rightly open to question.
 
2013-04-12 10:04:07 AM  
Orbister

Why haven't I blocked you yet? Oh well. Problem remedied.



pussy
 
2013-04-12 12:30:17 PM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: When it's 3am, and he's finished everything you just pumped yet he's still hungry, what else are you supposed to do besides get him some formula?


Cheeseburger!
 
2013-04-12 04:10:49 PM  
Orbister

Because fat people are disgusting, obviously. Don't believe me? Try a GIS on "fat person" and then a GIS on "non-breastfeeding mother"

A lot of non-breastfeeding mothers can't help not breastfeeding due to medical conditions. Some fat people (not all, but many) can't help being fat due to various conditions, like polycystic ovarian syndrome, thyroid disease, and so forth.

My point is, whether you personally find it disgusting or not is irrelevant. You shouldn't pick on someone for being fat because there might be a whole host of medical problems making them fat that you don't know about, and they might not be able to help it, just like some non-breastfeeding mothers may not be able to breastfeed. So who the fark are you to judge anyone?

To put it another way, mind your own farking business about other people's bodies.



He didn't tell anyone what to do. He just gave his opinion in a comment thread. Why don't you just mind YOUR own business and let him say what he wants?
 
2013-04-12 08:06:53 PM  
DoubleD99

He didn't tell anyone what to do. He just gave his opinion in a comment thread. Why don't you just mind YOUR own business and let him say what he wants?

I stated that criticizing someone for not breastfeeding is the same as criticizing being overweight, and that people should mind their business on both counts. Orbister apparently took issue with this premise as he considers fat people to be disgusting. I was telling him that he shouldn't criticize people for being overweight.

But apparently telling people not to unfairly criticize people means that I myself am criticizing people and that therefore you have to intervene and criticize me and OH SHI-

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